Mafia in the Himalayas - Page 76

On June 18 2015 06:30 KelsierSC wrote:
WBG I read some of what you posted and I see you went to a lot of trouble so.

I've questioned and pushed LS very hard and in my opinion I highlighted aspects of his play that were scummy.

his calling everyone town, not reading the thread, his whole debacle around shockey.
then you add in how he flipped the read on shockey to call him mafia and the inconsistent parts around that.
I feel LS is mafia, when he claimed blue I felt I had him in the noose, he was trying to dodge the pressure and avoid being lynched. I think if he is town he can work his way out of that spot.

I also think my push on shockey was pretty strong.
You have basically said i'm doing fuck all and not reading..I disagree with this completely and I don't think you truly believe it either.

With regards to the anger thing. Assassination mafia I was cop, it was a tightly controlled game. I was on good behaviour. This game it's less tight and i'm kind of pissed off RL.


If you want to ask me some questions then I will answer in a civil manner for the benefit of the thread.

On June 18 2015 06:33 KelsierSC wrote:
I have a few questions for you in return

1) do you still think i'm scum given the responses in the thread

2) when I was questioning LS you had chances to speak up and defend the "clear town" but you didn't. You only spoke after he claimed and diverted pressure onto me. why didn't you speak earlier?

On June 18 2015 13:24 NydusHerMain wrote:
Curious bugs. Knowing I'm not a smurf, would you rate me as a better player

On June 18 2015 22:02 wherebugsgo wrote:
Lohengramm you should tell us who you are. I hate replacements and since you're a smurf you're either good or terrible. Alternatively you can just prove to us that you're not terrible but I really doubt you're going to do that given how sparse your posts have already been, judging from your filter.

On June 18 2015 22:46 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke up and had a question:

I was tired of being pressured to the extreme from KSC so I claimed there......

On June 18 2015 22:45 yamato77 wrote:

No u

On June 18 2015 22:43 wherebugsgo wrote:
Alright I managed to finish reading...Mig I want to know your read on Damdred right now. You prodded him for reads earlier but I am interested in knowing how his response to you affected your read of him.

Next, can someone kindly explain the BF case to me? Even after having read the entire thread I can't for the life of me understand why people are calling him scum. This is worrying, given that in my own notes I have him leaning fairly townish. On the other hand I can summarize the posts on LS because I think that there were more people to call him scum at various points and he did have the named VT claim, but I really really doubt he is scum.

I'm phone posting right now and I quoted NHM's post to get this reply so I can't really quote anything else but I would actually rather not lynch either of these dudes but instead lynch Kelsier or GB. Kelsier kinda disappeared after a while and although he had one response to me in which he calmed down and attempted to explain his reads he didn't quite do anything in the mean time. That's quite strange given that as town I would have expected him to continue pushing LS if he truly felt so strongly about it. It is very clear there is at least some resistance to LS since he's not even the vote leader angmore, so why is KSC not pushing him as he was earlier? To me that seems really fishy, like he feels he did enough earlier on and now he can slip by.

Then there's GB, who continually does weird things that are very hard for me to explain from a town perspective. The mkst obvious one to me was that it sounded like he wanted to work with me and bounce ideas off me. At first I gave him tentative town points for that on the condition that he actually follown up and make use of my offer. What instead happened is that GB's post quality started declining, and despite me asking him hey why don't we discuss stuff he only asked me one thing which now to me I can't even recall because it seemed so insignificant. Why as town would GB state that he wants to know my reads and then make almost no effort to get them from me? Indeed one thing that HF pointed out is actually really damning and that is the fact that at some point GB refused to give out hisnown reads and he "chastised" me for doing the exact same thing. That's a very scummy thing for someone who thinks giving out reads as town is a good thing.

Finally this could be completely irrelevant but the way he "dares" people to call him scum in some of his posts (by saying "Am I scum?" for whatever reason to me comes off as really forced. It's true that scum would be wary of clashing attitudes but even in the last game GB showed awareness of common scum tropes and took advantage of that, e.g. defending his buddy when he knew it was likely to cause him to take a lot of attention.




Idk regardless of your alignment this game you appear to post better than at least half of the playerbase

On June 18 2015 06:14 Mig wrote:
Boxer is definitely shady so far, his time lines don't match up. Common for newer scum players to promise work at X time and then not know what to post so they dont deliver it.

Boxer why did you pick holyflare and Kelsier as the only 2 filters you have read?

On June 18 2015 07:47 KelsierSC wrote:
I've said more than my fair share and i'm just waiting for bugs to return.
So until that time.

On June 18 2015 22:45 yamato77 wrote:

No u

On June 18 2015 22:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
I see I have been ninjaed.

Re: LS, I didn't defend LS prior to the claim because I myself was unsure of his alignment at that point. To me he seemed townish but my reasons were not very well qualified and it was mostly on the basis of him not acting in a very similar way to how he did in the last game where he was scum and we got him killed day 1. Indeed here his defense is a lot more passioned whereas in the previous game and in all the other scum games I read in which he got lynched he more or less rolled over and died.

The claim however pretty much instantly erased any doubts I had and that's when I chose to defend him because I knee jubjubs and scum would jump all over that shit to call him scum. The two worst responses IMO were yours and GB, and to a lesser extent Onegu whose only listed reason for voting was policy. IMO people who do not view that claim as a townish thing to do are either mafia or bad, and I really prefer not to assume someone is bad town when they have demonstrated some capability of thinking analytically.

GB's reaction to the claim was really terrible. He flipped his read on LS completely which is not what I would expect town to do simply on the basis of a claim. It also appeared very opportunistic because as soon as I showed resistance he backed off, and curiously tried to get my opinion on another low-hanging-fruit of a player, VA.

What's interesting to me here is that the more that I think on kt and write it out the more I find GB scummy than anyone else. Anyone else down to kill him today?