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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 01 2015 16:44 GMT
#4961
None of that makes me scum.

I pushed mig. Was afk for personal reasons, its idiotic as scum to deflect off partner in this siyuation

statement I made isn't weird scum will never in a million years kill hf if he's town.

and no you don't have a meta read on me at all that's the point
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
July 01 2015 16:50 GMT
#4962
It's hardly idiotic to deflect. We might not have noticed the deflect. And it's contributing to the growing sense in town that we should ignore the red check. Obviously if you and HF are the scum team, you want to downplay that as much as we can. If you're actually town, maybe you think that. But the point I'm trying to make is that we don't know whether to believe what you're saying or not, because you might be mafia. So we have to evaluate what we see on its face.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
July 01 2015 16:51 GMT
#4963
EBWOP

It's hardly idiotic to deflect. We might not have noticed the deflect. And it's contributing to the growing sense in town that we should ignore the red check. Obviously if you and HF are the scum team, you want to downplay that as much as you can. If you're actually town, maybe you just think that. But the point I'm trying to make is that we don't know whether to believe what you're saying or not, because you might be mafia. So we have to evaluate what we see on its face.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 01 2015 16:54 GMT
#4964
No it is idiotic as scum to hard align yourself with your partner when 1. There is a potential red check when you have the game well in hand. And 2) when almost everyone in the game thinks he's scum.

its stupid and so sub obtimal its not even funny.

When there is a framer in a game red checks do mean less its just how it is.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
July 01 2015 16:56 GMT
#4965
They are fair points, but that doesn't mean that it isn't what you're doing. You could, of course, be doing it, ready in the knowledge that you can make those points to defend yourself if you get picked up on it.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
July 01 2015 16:56 GMT
#4966
Also barely anybody seems to think HF is scum at the moment. I tried my hardest to get him lynched yesterday, and I couldn't.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 01 2015 16:59 GMT
#4967
There is a possibility he's scum and its possible that he's scum with oneg.

Hiwever its not at all correct for me to hard align myself with anyone even if you use wifom to put doubts into it. Its idiotic and hurts me trying to win the game as scum.

most the thread at some point would of wanted to lynch hf most didn't vote him which is strange
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 01 2015 17:05 GMT
#4968
On July 02 2015 01:59 Damdred wrote:
There is a possibility he's scum and its possible that he's scum with oneg.

Hiwever its not at all correct for me to hard align myself with anyone even if you use wifom to put doubts into it. Its idiotic and hurts me trying to win the game as scum.

most the thread at some point would of wanted to lynch hf most didn't vote him which is strange


What makes you think that HF could be scum with onegu?
I got the opposite impression after seeing what happened yesterday.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 01 2015 17:10 GMT
#4969
There's obvious traction to get people onto one, if you think hf can't be scum with him why didn't anyone else jump or push him.

If there scum together and we switch gives hf and shockey a lot of town cred.

its a little tin foil but a scenerio I could see happen in a oneg, hf, shockey, mig team.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 01 2015 17:13 GMT
#4970
And it rests on the thought that I'm town obviously.

its a bit of a distancing technique that could be used, its an interesting thought though and is a high reward play
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
July 01 2015 17:15 GMT
#4971
The only way that it's an Oneg, HF, Shockey team is that all three wagons that got started were all on mafia. That makes no sense to me. Why would mafia not even try to start a mislynch? Screw town-cred, they can just win the game that day with a town wagon. If I were mafia, I would be willing to stick my neck out to get a mislynch. The risk (losing you) is much less than the reward (winning the game).
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 01 2015 17:21 GMT
#4972
I agree with fidei here.
I don't see any reason why mafia wouldn't start a train on at least one town person.
What is there to gain by bussing until the end?
The longer the game goes, the more certain people become in each others alignments.
Meaning you have to abuse the town uncertainty of alignment while you still can.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 01 2015 17:22 GMT
#4973
Its possible, though unlikely to an extent but the only wagons people wanted were shockey oneg or hf that day
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
July 01 2015 17:27 GMT
#4974
Yeah but there were three other mafia people who could have tried to get a mislynch going. In fact, the only wagon shockey wanted on to was the Onegu one. It could be an elaborate ruse, but ... I dunno ... it seems more likely to me that it was genuine.
NydusHerMain
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada492 Posts
July 01 2015 17:27 GMT
#4975
On July 02 2015 02:15 Fidei86 wrote:
The only way that it's an Oneg, HF, Shockey team is that all three wagons that got started were all on mafia. That makes no sense to me. Why would mafia not even try to start a mislynch? Screw town-cred, they can just win the game that day with a town wagon. If I were mafia, I would be willing to stick my neck out to get a mislynch. The risk (losing you) is much less than the reward (winning the game).


Assume that world where shockey/onegu/hf/mig are mafia.... who's the person they try to mislynch??? I think they're literally the highest scum for everyone at the moment. Who the heck would they have pushed on?
NydusHerMain
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada492 Posts
July 01 2015 17:27 GMT
#4976
If that's the scum team, a threeway bus would give them ultimate towncred and win them the game.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 01 2015 17:28 GMT
#4977
Actually not true, who would everyone been ok switching to exactly outside hf oneg and shock?
fid is 100% confirmed
ls was heavily town read by a majority of the game
rux was never seriously discussed
I was hinted at but never discussed and did a ton of work

so what wad the town wagon again outside the three?
NydusHerMain
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada492 Posts
July 01 2015 17:30 GMT
#4978
On July 02 2015 02:28 Damdred wrote:
Actually not true, who would everyone been ok switching to exactly outside hf oneg and shock?
fid is 100% confirmed
ls was heavily town read by a majority of the game
rux was never seriously discussed
I was hinted at but never discussed and did a ton of work

so what wad the town wagon again outside the three?

Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
July 01 2015 17:32 GMT
#4979
@Damdred - so you're saying that HF is actually mafia?
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
July 01 2015 17:41 GMT
#4980
I'm so sad about getting NKed this evening. I'm finally starting to get into this game, now that is slow enough that I can read and consider everything

:-(
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