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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 29 2015 14:13 GMT
#4421
Let's do a little exercise called actually playing the game of mafia.

If there were no such thing as a cop or red check in a normal game and everything you see points to someone being town and you think he is towny and has a lot of content then why on earth would you ever contemplate lynching that guy? The simple fact of the matter is that you wouldn't. This red check is clouding your actual judgement and making you forget how to play the game.

It's triple lylo and I'm not just going to sit back and let you get away with stuff like this. If I get lynched then we lose and it's on YOU. I absolutely will not accept the excuse post game that you got lazy and followed the red check despite thinking I was towny. I will look down on you as a player if that's how you play this game.

Nobody is interacting with me about nydus or any of the points or anything I'm raising (apart from nydus looool) and it's pathetic.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 29 2015 17:27 GMT
#4422
I just woke up rough day yesterday, give me a few minutes to cath up and i'll give my thoughts.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 29 2015 18:05 GMT
#4423
On June 29 2015 10:20 NydusHerMain wrote:
Oh and don't forget that VA jailed me the night that RS died. If I'm on a scum team, I'm probably the lowest on everyone's radar. I carry the kp 100%


This logic is bad, VA was more than likely RB if they have one, its impossible for us to know though. But likely to a degree

On June 29 2015 10:39 Holyflare wrote:
and I find it odd you randomly want to sheep rsoultin because of what logic exactly? That she was pushing me? She also lynched boxerfred, yamato and was going to lynch glowingbear before he claimed cop. So why exactly do you think she's correct and sheepable now?


You know that this is wrong HF idk why you would say something like this exactly.

On June 29 2015 11:28 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2015 11:12 NydusHerMain wrote:
On June 29 2015 11:08 Holyflare wrote:
On June 29 2015 11:05 NydusHerMain wrote:
On June 29 2015 11:01 Holyflare wrote:
On June 29 2015 10:55 NydusHerMain wrote:
On June 29 2015 10:51 Holyflare wrote:
On June 29 2015 10:44 NydusHerMain wrote:
She wanted to lynch MiG at the end and she wanted to lynch you quickly after. It's weird for her to finally die when she's been leading a shit ton of mislynches? Also, I'm not mafia so I'm just going to defend myself like you've been doing for the last couple of days. "ermahgerd I'm not mafia so like ya'll are dum dums"

Anyways, check MiG's filter peeps. Damdred is like his tunnelled scum for a while. I don't think Damdred should be on the table today for lynching. He also only talks about HF when asked to by RS.


This bolded is quite a misrepresentation. I haven't been defending myself like you're insinuating and I find it unlikely that you can say that having said that you are reading the thread.

On June 25 2015 02:51 NydusHerMain wrote:
On June 25 2015 02:34 Holyflare wrote:
why would you not read everything i wrote before coming to a conclusion? i think the things i've written are pretty damning anyway, for GB and Damdred at least


You looked bored so I gave a quick post before reading




On June 25 2015 08:25 NydusHerMain wrote:
On June 25 2015 08:22 Holyflare wrote:
problem is i don't flip red


I think that you trying so hard near the end makes you leaning town. What I'm thinking is that if MiG made that claim, he had to have been talking to his partners about it in mafia QT. Why would you be trying so hard as if you're the lynch if you're scum partners with MiG and know that he's about to fake claim? It's kinda awkward. I dunno. We'll see later on since this game is about to get into crazy LyLo and I'm unconfirmed so gonna make it til the end (hopefully).


I find it hard how you can say the first bolded after making your stance on me clear the day before (above)

Did you run out of mislynches to push? Nothing has changed since then other than rsoultin relentlessly tunneling on situations that didn't make sense and me correcting her. If you'd like a thorough explanation on why I'll be happy to provide it. Keep on keeping on with your scummy stance changes for no reason though!


What the fuck? You think that if I'm mafia, you're the mislynch I try to land on? You think I'm going to run out of scummy people? Dude, if I'm scum, at least one of damdred, onegu, shockey is town. I can push damdred on inactivity, I can push onegu on inactivity and his LS push, I can push shockey for being scummy overall. Oh wait, I have been pushing on almost all of them this entire game. Everyone who's alive today? I've pushed on except for you until now.


I think you are pushing a logical fallacy "what mafia must have done so you must be mafia" in order to get a towny lynched when you have displayed quite clearly that you think the opposite to what you are pushing today. It's also quite a big stretch that you've been afk for almost 3 cycles now and when it becomes a triple lylo where people have to be pushed for actual logic you disregard it and focus on mafia wifom and nk speculation and the fact that there's a red check while flinging accusations my way. None of what you're saying is based on people's actual play and it's quite scummy.

Perhaps you should read the alive players' filters and decide who is mafia, it would be a lot more helpful and easier to determine whether you're just super misguided or not.


If I've been afk that long, my filter shouldn't be that hard to go through. I've pushed on onegu and shockey for a while now. When I called you town, it was a heat of the moment thing. I called you town in that exact moment because you were trying so hard but if you think about it, there's a chance that MiG decided to claim randomly instead of (what I was more leaning towards) him having gotten a claim ready since the beginning. You as scum partners with MiG fight really hard that day when you're red checked, then suddenly, the votes start turning onto MiG so he decides to claim. Otherwise, a lot of things I have started to think about have lead to you being scum over town. It's called reevaluation.


So what was his play as mafia on the spur of the moment? lynch gb and then gb flips cop and he sacrifices 2 mafia people for gb since the red check is revealed as true??


His play outted the jailer and town sentiment was to lynch you regardless.


No, actually. Town sentiment was overwhelmingly that I was town. I was the only one pushing that I should die purely for the information. So, knowing that I was town read and since you say that the sentiment was going to a Mig lynch. You are saying he claimed tracker on the spur of the moment to reveal the jk and lynch gb. If this was the case then he automatically undoes everything that I was doing the entire day and getting town read just to associate him with me? That was his plan? "hey my buddy hf is doing pretty well at getting town read, let's fuck him over!"

I don't think that's a thing that happens. You're also forgoing my d2 play where the entire day was me getting into a shit fight with GB because me and rsoultin were calling Mig mafia the entire day and Glowingbear was defending him the entire day:

+ Show Spoiler +

very likely Mig for doing his shitty switch. BF's post wasn't even bad and I'm pretty sure multiple people had the same reaction as me that it seemed pretty open and honest and Mig had a massive scum read on you (his second post was a case on you) but was very easily switched off of you onto BF



No, it's actually nothing to do with association. If you are town then Mig switched his vote onto a boxerfred whom was not awful looking while having a massive scum read on you all of the game for a really tedious reason. If you flip town it's still scummy because it causes the great confusion we are in today.


On June 21 2015 05:24 Holyflare wrote:
Shockey has been posting his entire thought process. I've been quizzing him endlessly, I'm still not even sure on him. Mig is nowhere in site, he had no reason to switch at all. Absolutely nowhere did he site the reasons "gb is playing and bf isn't even though bf said he couldn't play"

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On June 20 2015 02:52 Holyflare wrote:
reading mig's filter makes him look worse than i remember him being in the thread

his first few posts pretty good but then the rest are so crappy and contentlessy it's hard to reconcile that with mig from last game it's also pretty damn bad looking that he makes his first giant case on gb being mafia and kind of never really follows it in the thread and then when gb comes up for lynch he complains about gb doing mafia things but then finds the shittest reason to switch to bf ever??????????

badddddd


Like I said previously, he said everything that you were doing was mafia orientated. My point still stands.

You are still intentionally prolonging this exchange because you know it's what you need to survive.



bla bla there's an endless list of me attacking mig and gb doing shit defences of him


Regardless, on another note you keep saying how you've "pushed" shockey and Onegu but outline how some of those people are easy mislynches if you're mafia. Why do you keep mentioning that like it's a point in your favour?


Actually HF this kinda brings a question to mind. I know you did push MIG d2 which isn't really alignment indicative to a point is a slight plus for you I think. However why did you believe migs claim over GB? Was it just a survival type deal to save yourself that day or did you think GB was the scummier of the two at that point? Just take me through your thought process here.

And also people, stop being lazy fucks and look at other people besides HF. There are 2 more mafia besides him, we won't lose the game if we lynch them before we decide if hf is mafia.... Like ignore the red check and look at other people for gods sake.

Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 29 2015 18:07 GMT
#4424
Also its worth noting that the effort NHM is showing at this juncture makes me want to say hes town, the last time that he rolled scum and I was in the game with him he really just found someone he wantd to vote out and parked his vote and when it turned against him he showed up, but hes really pressuring hf here.

I think its a pretty good chance hes town still.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 29 2015 18:10 GMT
#4425
Its a really tough game honestly, I'm like 99.9% sure that LS is town in this situation and I sort of hope hes scum just so I can be proud of him changing his meta in a way I didn't think he could.

FId is confirmed town

I know i'm town obviously.

This leaves me in a world where all I have to do is find town in Onegu, Shockey, HF, NHM and Rux. There are two towns and three mafia in this group.

Content wise HF could look ok, red check withstanding I still want some more of his thoughts around the GB lynch.

Oneg has 0 real content voted with his mafia read in lynching GB which was headed by confirmed mafia mig.

Shockey is sort of weird.

Rux could of carried a shot and got blocked or been shot, he seem to be trying to solve the game though that is true, but isn't really evolving his reads in a way.

Its a sort of a hard game at thi sjuncture though
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 29 2015 18:26 GMT
#4426
On June 30 2015 03:07 Damdred wrote:
Also its worth noting that the effort NHM is showing at this juncture makes me want to say hes town, the last time that he rolled scum and I was in the game with him he really just found someone he wantd to vote out and parked his vote and when it turned against him he showed up, but hes really pressuring hf here.

I think its a pretty good chance hes town still.

On top of that Nydus also had a 4 page filter in 4 Days and he gotten 11 pages and was around like 9-10 area at End of Day 4
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 29 2015 18:27 GMT
#4427
On June 30 2015 03:10 Damdred wrote:
Its a really tough game honestly, I'm like 99.9% sure that LS is town in this situation and I sort of hope hes scum just so I can be proud of him changing his meta in a way I didn't think he could.

FId is confirmed town

I know i'm town obviously.

This leaves me in a world where all I have to do is find town in Onegu, Shockey, HF, NHM and Rux. There are two towns and three mafia in this group.

Content wise HF could look ok, red check withstanding I still want some more of his thoughts around the GB lynch.

Oneg has 0 real content voted with his mafia read in lynching GB which was headed by confirmed mafia mig.

Shockey is sort of weird.

Rux could of carried a shot and got blocked or been shot, he seem to be trying to solve the game though that is true, but isn't really evolving his reads in a way.

Its a sort of a hard game at thi sjuncture though

What part of Shockeyy is weird?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 29 2015 18:28 GMT
#4428
On June 30 2015 03:27 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2015 03:10 Damdred wrote:
Its a really tough game honestly, I'm like 99.9% sure that LS is town in this situation and I sort of hope hes scum just so I can be proud of him changing his meta in a way I didn't think he could.

FId is confirmed town

I know i'm town obviously.

This leaves me in a world where all I have to do is find town in Onegu, Shockey, HF, NHM and Rux. There are two towns and three mafia in this group.

Content wise HF could look ok, red check withstanding I still want some more of his thoughts around the GB lynch.

Oneg has 0 real content voted with his mafia read in lynching GB which was headed by confirmed mafia mig.

Shockey is sort of weird.

Rux could of carried a shot and got blocked or been shot, he seem to be trying to solve the game though that is true, but isn't really evolving his reads in a way.

Its a sort of a hard game at thi sjuncture though

What part of Shockeyy is weird?

I only asking this because I want your full thoughts on him that's all.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 29 2015 18:30 GMT
#4429
On June 29 2015 23:13 Holyflare wrote:
Let's do a little exercise called actually playing the game of mafia.

If there were no such thing as a cop or red check in a normal game and everything you see points to someone being town and you think he is towny and has a lot of content then why on earth would you ever contemplate lynching that guy? The simple fact of the matter is that you wouldn't. This red check is clouding your actual judgement and making you forget how to play the game.

It's triple lylo and I'm not just going to sit back and let you get away with stuff like this. If I get lynched then we lose and it's on YOU. I absolutely will not accept the excuse post game that you got lazy and followed the red check despite thinking I was towny. I will look down on you as a player if that's how you play this game.

Nobody is interacting with me about nydus or any of the points or anything I'm raising (apart from nydus looool) and it's pathetic.

I think Nydus is most likely Town he had just rolled scum vs Damdred in Holy Guardians and he had 4 pages of filter plus he really just stuck to 1 thing parking votes more there compared to here.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 29 2015 18:41 GMT
#4430
On June 30 2015 03:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2015 03:07 Damdred wrote:
Also its worth noting that the effort NHM is showing at this juncture makes me want to say hes town, the last time that he rolled scum and I was in the game with him he really just found someone he wantd to vote out and parked his vote and when it turned against him he showed up, but hes really pressuring hf here.

I think its a pretty good chance hes town still.

On top of that Nydus also had a 4 page filter in 4 Days and he gotten 11 pages and was around like 9-10 area at End of Day 4


I don't think its exactly fair to compare filter lengths in the two gams, one is a bit longer than the other.

So, in your world it would be

Ruxxor, HF, Shockey and Oneg as the last scum candidates yea? Which one is town ls
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 29 2015 18:46 GMT
#4431
Day 5 Vote Count


Holyflare (1): ruXxar

Not voted (7): Fidei86, LightningStrike, NydusHerMain, Onegu, Holyflare, Damdred, ShoCkeyy

Clinging to the ledge, Holyflare hangs over the abyss.
Day 5 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).

The voting thread is here.

Only votes in the voting thread will be counted.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 29 2015 18:49 GMT
#4432
On June 30 2015 03:41 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2015 03:26 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 30 2015 03:07 Damdred wrote:
Also its worth noting that the effort NHM is showing at this juncture makes me want to say hes town, the last time that he rolled scum and I was in the game with him he really just found someone he wantd to vote out and parked his vote and when it turned against him he showed up, but hes really pressuring hf here.

I think its a pretty good chance hes town still.

On top of that Nydus also had a 4 page filter in 4 Days and he gotten 11 pages and was around like 9-10 area at End of Day 4


I don't think its exactly fair to compare filter lengths in the two gams, one is a bit longer than the other.

So, in your world it would be

Ruxxor, HF, Shockey and Oneg as the last scum candidates yea? Which one is town ls

Again it goes back my question regarding the Night Phase because VA said he blocked rux's slot Night 1 and Mig said something about it idk I felt like the slot is town but I could be wrong.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 29 2015 19:00 GMT
#4433
But why does it have to be someone shot bugs instead of bug shot was blocked, we have the word of a mafia... I mean ti would be next level mafia play but if you think HF is on the team its something you have to consider at this point.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 29 2015 19:04 GMT
#4434
I'm out at the moment.
I'll be back later this evening with my latest thoughts, reading through everything.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 29 2015 19:04 GMT
#4435
And at the same time, we have to ask ourselves why would mig go out of his way to claim get gb lynched and lynch himself.

There are only two answers at this point

1) Set up a mislynch on HF the next following day where a red check screwed up town and lost the game.

2) HF is the RB and is needed to block vayne so that the kill isn't blocked the next night.

If we believe option 2 then rux is more than likely not mafia at all.

Option one he still could be.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
June 29 2015 19:06 GMT
#4436
On June 25 2015 06:48 VayneAuthority wrote:
Btw, ruxxar is confirmed town since I saved bugs/his slot n1

Just bumping this post, since I missed it the first time around.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 29 2015 19:15 GMT
#4437
On June 30 2015 03:05 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2015 10:20 NydusHerMain wrote:
Oh and don't forget that VA jailed me the night that RS died. If I'm on a scum team, I'm probably the lowest on everyone's radar. I carry the kp 100%


This logic is bad, VA was more than likely RB if they have one, its impossible for us to know though. But likely to a degree

Show nested quote +
On June 29 2015 10:39 Holyflare wrote:
and I find it odd you randomly want to sheep rsoultin because of what logic exactly? That she was pushing me? She also lynched boxerfred, yamato and was going to lynch glowingbear before he claimed cop. So why exactly do you think she's correct and sheepable now?


You know that this is wrong HF idk why you would say something like this exactly.

Show nested quote +
On June 29 2015 11:28 Holyflare wrote:
On June 29 2015 11:12 NydusHerMain wrote:
On June 29 2015 11:08 Holyflare wrote:
On June 29 2015 11:05 NydusHerMain wrote:
On June 29 2015 11:01 Holyflare wrote:
On June 29 2015 10:55 NydusHerMain wrote:
On June 29 2015 10:51 Holyflare wrote:
On June 29 2015 10:44 NydusHerMain wrote:
She wanted to lynch MiG at the end and she wanted to lynch you quickly after. It's weird for her to finally die when she's been leading a shit ton of mislynches? Also, I'm not mafia so I'm just going to defend myself like you've been doing for the last couple of days. "ermahgerd I'm not mafia so like ya'll are dum dums"

Anyways, check MiG's filter peeps. Damdred is like his tunnelled scum for a while. I don't think Damdred should be on the table today for lynching. He also only talks about HF when asked to by RS.


This bolded is quite a misrepresentation. I haven't been defending myself like you're insinuating and I find it unlikely that you can say that having said that you are reading the thread.

On June 25 2015 02:51 NydusHerMain wrote:
On June 25 2015 02:34 Holyflare wrote:
why would you not read everything i wrote before coming to a conclusion? i think the things i've written are pretty damning anyway, for GB and Damdred at least


You looked bored so I gave a quick post before reading




On June 25 2015 08:25 NydusHerMain wrote:
On June 25 2015 08:22 Holyflare wrote:
problem is i don't flip red


I think that you trying so hard near the end makes you leaning town. What I'm thinking is that if MiG made that claim, he had to have been talking to his partners about it in mafia QT. Why would you be trying so hard as if you're the lynch if you're scum partners with MiG and know that he's about to fake claim? It's kinda awkward. I dunno. We'll see later on since this game is about to get into crazy LyLo and I'm unconfirmed so gonna make it til the end (hopefully).


I find it hard how you can say the first bolded after making your stance on me clear the day before (above)

Did you run out of mislynches to push? Nothing has changed since then other than rsoultin relentlessly tunneling on situations that didn't make sense and me correcting her. If you'd like a thorough explanation on why I'll be happy to provide it. Keep on keeping on with your scummy stance changes for no reason though!


What the fuck? You think that if I'm mafia, you're the mislynch I try to land on? You think I'm going to run out of scummy people? Dude, if I'm scum, at least one of damdred, onegu, shockey is town. I can push damdred on inactivity, I can push onegu on inactivity and his LS push, I can push shockey for being scummy overall. Oh wait, I have been pushing on almost all of them this entire game. Everyone who's alive today? I've pushed on except for you until now.


I think you are pushing a logical fallacy "what mafia must have done so you must be mafia" in order to get a towny lynched when you have displayed quite clearly that you think the opposite to what you are pushing today. It's also quite a big stretch that you've been afk for almost 3 cycles now and when it becomes a triple lylo where people have to be pushed for actual logic you disregard it and focus on mafia wifom and nk speculation and the fact that there's a red check while flinging accusations my way. None of what you're saying is based on people's actual play and it's quite scummy.

Perhaps you should read the alive players' filters and decide who is mafia, it would be a lot more helpful and easier to determine whether you're just super misguided or not.


If I've been afk that long, my filter shouldn't be that hard to go through. I've pushed on onegu and shockey for a while now. When I called you town, it was a heat of the moment thing. I called you town in that exact moment because you were trying so hard but if you think about it, there's a chance that MiG decided to claim randomly instead of (what I was more leaning towards) him having gotten a claim ready since the beginning. You as scum partners with MiG fight really hard that day when you're red checked, then suddenly, the votes start turning onto MiG so he decides to claim. Otherwise, a lot of things I have started to think about have lead to you being scum over town. It's called reevaluation.


So what was his play as mafia on the spur of the moment? lynch gb and then gb flips cop and he sacrifices 2 mafia people for gb since the red check is revealed as true??


His play outted the jailer and town sentiment was to lynch you regardless.


No, actually. Town sentiment was overwhelmingly that I was town. I was the only one pushing that I should die purely for the information. So, knowing that I was town read and since you say that the sentiment was going to a Mig lynch. You are saying he claimed tracker on the spur of the moment to reveal the jk and lynch gb. If this was the case then he automatically undoes everything that I was doing the entire day and getting town read just to associate him with me? That was his plan? "hey my buddy hf is doing pretty well at getting town read, let's fuck him over!"

I don't think that's a thing that happens. You're also forgoing my d2 play where the entire day was me getting into a shit fight with GB because me and rsoultin were calling Mig mafia the entire day and Glowingbear was defending him the entire day:

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very likely Mig for doing his shitty switch. BF's post wasn't even bad and I'm pretty sure multiple people had the same reaction as me that it seemed pretty open and honest and Mig had a massive scum read on you (his second post was a case on you) but was very easily switched off of you onto BF



No, it's actually nothing to do with association. If you are town then Mig switched his vote onto a boxerfred whom was not awful looking while having a massive scum read on you all of the game for a really tedious reason. If you flip town it's still scummy because it causes the great confusion we are in today.


On June 21 2015 05:24 Holyflare wrote:
Shockey has been posting his entire thought process. I've been quizzing him endlessly, I'm still not even sure on him. Mig is nowhere in site, he had no reason to switch at all. Absolutely nowhere did he site the reasons "gb is playing and bf isn't even though bf said he couldn't play"

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On June 20 2015 02:52 Holyflare wrote:
reading mig's filter makes him look worse than i remember him being in the thread

his first few posts pretty good but then the rest are so crappy and contentlessy it's hard to reconcile that with mig from last game it's also pretty damn bad looking that he makes his first giant case on gb being mafia and kind of never really follows it in the thread and then when gb comes up for lynch he complains about gb doing mafia things but then finds the shittest reason to switch to bf ever??????????

badddddd


Like I said previously, he said everything that you were doing was mafia orientated. My point still stands.

You are still intentionally prolonging this exchange because you know it's what you need to survive.



bla bla there's an endless list of me attacking mig and gb doing shit defences of him


Regardless, on another note you keep saying how you've "pushed" shockey and Onegu but outline how some of those people are easy mislynches if you're mafia. Why do you keep mentioning that like it's a point in your favour?


Actually HF this kinda brings a question to mind. I know you did push MIG d2 which isn't really alignment indicative to a point is a slight plus for you I think. However why did you believe migs claim over GB? Was it just a survival type deal to save yourself that day or did you think GB was the scummier of the two at that point? Just take me through your thought process here.

And also people, stop being lazy fucks and look at other people besides HF. There are 2 more mafia besides him, we won't lose the game if we lynch them before we decide if hf is mafia.... Like ignore the red check and look at other people for gods sake.



I don't see how the logic is bad and "I should know it" in the slightest. He's was simply trying to sheep dead players reads when that players reads had been wrong and it didn't make sense to begin with. Not to mention rsoultin wasn't really calling me mafia and if she was it was purely because I was disagreeing with her bad logic.

Either way, if you have to ask me why I believed Mig's claim over GB I'm afraid that 100% means you didn't particularly read day 3 at all. I spent the whole day planning out eventualities for my flip and then decided that even if I did flip miller Glowingbear was very likely scum (had some wild role cop theory too). His lying, his checks not aligning with what he had said at night, his non-reevaluation of players like Onegu when he learnt new information (onegu not being a mason) and his "check" on me being red when his new list of scum reads d3 were the same list I made day 2 and he had called awful and bad. None of what he did made sense + I had like 100+ hours of tunnel on him. It just made "sense" to me that he wasn't the cop and confirmation bias or whatever i just saw red as soon as Mig claimed. (My vote was already on GB beforehand because I wasn't allowed to vote for myself).

The only reason I did not lynch GB day 2 was because his defence of Mig aligned with his check. It eliminated the majority of what I thought about him. Then I learned about the fact it was fake when me and Rsoultin were pushing mig and he literally MADE me tunnel harder on him for no fucking reason whatsoever!? I was like ----- I'm pushing someone you inevitably don't know about and you used a "fake check lie" to get more info about instead of just lynching him. It didn't make the slightest bit of sense.

What makes it worse is that nobody even talked to me for the entirety of the day 3 cycle. Not one person. Rsoultin ignored everything I wrote and just said I was towny and that the point I brought up re:GB's check on ls not making sense was cool and then wanted to vote Mig, ignored everything else. Nydus just didn't even give a shit about what I was writing and ignored it, fidei was just sheeping rsoul, ls/onegy/shockey/ruxxar??????????????????? don't remember them doing anything. Then when the whole thing goes down THE ENTIRE GAME BECAME ACTIVE AGAIN!??!?!?! All of these scummy people came out of the woodwork. LS I can see as being honest here but Onegu's intentions make the LEAST bit of sense. There were 2 confirmed town on Mig. Mig was considered scummy and the 2 confirmed town were pushing for his lynch but he wanted to consolidate with what? The cc and the red check without saying a word and not alluding to having read any of the thread or anything.

On June 25 2015 06:56 Fecalfeast wrote:
Day 3 Vote Count


Holyflare (2): rsoultin, GlowingBear, LightningStrike, Onegu, ruXxar, Fidei86, NydusHerMain
GlowingBear (5): VayneAuthority, Mig, Holyflare, LightningStrike, Onegu
Mig (3): ruXxar, rsoultin, Fidei86
Damdred (0): Holyflare
rsoultin (0): Onegu

Not voted (2): ShoCkeyy, Damdred

Clinging to the ledge, GlowingBear hangs over the abyss.
Day 3 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).

The voting thread is here.

Only votes in the voting thread will be counted.



If I had to base the game off of just this one vote + based on what people have said their intentions were later, I'd say that Nydus is probably lazy town and LS is just mistaken. That leaves Onegu/rxxa/Shockey/Damdred. Ruxxar voted on Mig but I'll have to look into it to see what he was saying at the lynch, or even whether he was here because I don't remember that well -------------------------watch this space------------------------------------, Shockeyy and Damdred were just flat out afk doing nothing. If I had to base it solely on this lynch + actions throughout the game I'd say it was shockey/damdred/onegu as the remaining mafia. It's a bit more complicated than that though and damdred DOES look a bit more towny sooo /complicatedbrb
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 29 2015 19:15 GMT
#4438
I mean if you want me to quote the entirety of my posts day 3 on GB i'd be more than happy to, it's quite evident what i thought about him
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 29 2015 19:29 GMT
#4439
And also people, stop being lazy fucks and look at other people besides HF. There are 2 more mafia besides him, we won't lose the game if we lynch them before we decide if hf is mafia.... Like ignore the red check and look at other people for gods sake.


Also this is EXTREMELY true (apart from the fact I'm not mafia so there is actually 3 people to get). I'm the person that won triple lylo for town in game of thrones. Mafia will probably have to shoot me or get royally fucked for leaving me alive in the next coming days. I've also been known to not try and solve the game as mafia in lylo and there's a lot of lylos so you should be giving me a chance to prove myself repeatedly. I haven't seen people giving legitimate reads in this game for a long while, it's all been based on night action and blue wifom. You shouldn't be doing that.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 29 2015 19:30 GMT
#4440
Also don't forget that we MUST all be unanimously lynching someone today (not me). You absolutely cannot be spreading votes out because that can enable mafia to all vote switch and win.
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