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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 27 2015 23:02 GMT
#4261
On June 28 2015 07:56 NydusHerMain wrote:
I just feel like no matter what, the red check is going to get you in the end regardless of your alignment.


I will not let that happen. Ever.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 27 2015 23:04 GMT
#4262
On June 28 2015 07:58 Damdred wrote:
The correct play is to lynch the scummiest player.

If you lynch hf do it for a real reason not just a red check as in a totally closed setup doesn't mean quite as much.

For example why would scum team totally sacrifice mig for hf there? Idk what the point is except we go gb, mig then hf in that scenario.

It looks much more likely atm that role cop gb drew Out vayne and we have a mislynch in hf incoming.


This is pretty much correct. If i am mafia i worked my ass off taking a day off work just to appear towny just so my team mate would claim tracker and get us both lynched for it? That doesn't make any sense in the slightest.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 27 2015 23:04 GMT
#4263
I'm pretty sure hf will be around until 2 v 1 if we get to that point.

I have to look through hf filter a bit to see if I see anything. But right now time is better spent getting thoughts out or questioning any inconsistencies you find
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 27 2015 23:15 GMT
#4264
On June 28 2015 07:58 Damdred wrote:
The correct play is to lynch the scummiest player.

If you lynch hf do it for a real reason not just a red check as in a totally closed setup doesn't mean quite as much.

For example why would scum team totally sacrifice mig for hf there? Idk what the point is except we go gb, mig then hf in that scenario.

It looks much more likely atm that role cop gb drew Out vayne and we have a mislynch in hf incoming.


Could you explain this sentence? I know that it's possible to be framed or miller, but still that's a pretty low chance.

According to your logic I would be voting for Onegu / shockey. Most likely Onegu. Which wouldn't feel bad at all to me.

I guess since there are 3 mafia left and we *have* to lynch correctly every day, we should go for the safest option first. If we get even 1 incorrectly we lose and the game is over.

Then it's really up for discussion though what you would consider as the scummiest player.
Can having a redcheck on you be considered scummy? I think it could be argued that it is, but it seems I'm pretty lonley in that view.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 27 2015 23:22 GMT
#4265
On June 28 2015 08:04 Damdred wrote:
I'm pretty sure hf will be around until 2 v 1 if we get to that point.

I have to look through hf filter a bit to see if I see anything. But right now time is better spent getting thoughts out or questioning any inconsistencies you find


What makes you sure HF will be around for so long?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 27 2015 23:23 GMT
#4266
It depends.

For example we really don't know what the scum team has, its possible that they don't have a rb or a godfather etc. Have a framer or we have a Miller.

Sometimes a red check just doesn't mean as much in a closed setup then it does in an open setup. Does that mean hf is lock town? No he is the best scum player on site after all.

Rs and gb are probably unobtrusive fists at me currently but yeah I just want to find the other two scum before we decide on hf
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 27 2015 23:24 GMT
#4267
On June 28 2015 08:22 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2015 08:04 Damdred wrote:
I'm pretty sure hf will be around until 2 v 1 if we get to that point.

I have to look through hf filter a bit to see if I see anything. But right now time is better spent getting thoughts out or questioning any inconsistencies you find


What makes you sure HF will be around for so long?


Why wouldn't scum,keep a red check around to mislynch one day?
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 27 2015 23:26 GMT
#4268
Why wouldn't they just mislynch him now?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 27 2015 23:29 GMT
#4269
Well it's night obviously, and mug was obvious scum. If he's town and he gets mislynch tomorrow and he's town we lose obviously so can't make it to 2 v1
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 27 2015 23:29 GMT
#4270
If you could win the game right now, why wait until later when he has been able to figure out who the mafia are?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 27 2015 23:31 GMT
#4271
We still have a lot of time left. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 27 2015 23:36 GMT
#4272
heres what it comes down to for me

2 out of damdred, onegu, and shockeyy are scum imo, have to figure out who is town of those.
I come in for the scraps
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 27 2015 23:37 GMT
#4273
I'm confused? Scum doesn't have a majority so they have to convince town to lynch hf if he's town. The only people pushing against it is myself and oneg.

Ls thinks he's towny but would lynch him. So it's not like it's hard to get him lynched.

Unless you think the team is me hf and oneg. Which is I,sulting
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 27 2015 23:38 GMT
#4274
On June 28 2015 08:36 VayneAuthority wrote:
heres what it comes down to for me

2 out of damdred, onegu, and shockeyy are scum imo, have to figure out who is town of those.


Could you at least explain why you think,I'm scum if it's just Poe so,be it but a quick explanation
NydusHerMain
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada492 Posts
June 27 2015 23:53 GMT
#4275
On June 28 2015 08:36 VayneAuthority wrote:
heres what it comes down to for me

2 out of damdred, onegu, and shockeyy are scum imo, have to figure out who is town of those.


who's the third?
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 27 2015 23:54 GMT
#4276
Ok, so I put together everyone's scumreads since I asked people to discuss them some pages back.(The list might not be 100% accurate)

This is the overview :

ruXxar (2) : Damdred, Onegu
Fidei (0) :
Vayne (1) : Damdred,
LightningStrike (1) : Onegu
NydusHerMain (0) :
Onegu (5) : Ruxxar, Damdred, Shockey, Vayne, Shockey
Holyflare (4) : Ruxxar, Fidei, Damdred, Vayne
Damdred (3) : Shockey, HF, Vayne
Shockeyy (4) : Ruxxar, Damdred, Lightningstrike, Nydus

From this we can see that Onegu, HF, Shockey and damdred are the top suspects.

One interesting observation is how everyone has at least 1 scumread between those 4 except for onegu.
Another observation is how Onegu and damdred are the only ones that have any suspects outside of those 4.

I'm not really sure what to make of this list at the moment, but at least it's easier to see where people stand.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 27 2015 23:57 GMT
#4277
I see I listed shockey twice on Onegu, woops!

ruXxar (2) : Damdred, Onegu
Fidei (0) :
Vayne (1) : Damdred,
LightningStrike (1) : Onegu
NydusHerMain (0) :
Onegu (4) : Ruxxar, Damdred, Shockey, Vayne
Holyflare (4) : Ruxxar, Fidei, Damdred, Vayne
Damdred (3) : Shockey, HF, Vayne
Shockeyy (4) : Ruxxar, Damdred, Lightningstrike, Nydus
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 27 2015 23:58 GMT
#4278
i don't know why you can't just base the game off of people's play? you seem to be doing everything BUT that and using all these metrics that you shouldn't be using
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 28 2015 00:03 GMT
#4279
I've already judged people off their plays and given my reasons for that.

Right now I'm looking for extra information beyond that.
Maybe it's useful, maybe it's not.
But if I can even adjust the certainty of my vote by a few %, then it's useful to me.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 28 2015 00:05 GMT
#4280
no you haven't you've just said i'm a red check and left it at that and based none of that on my play which will in the end lose the game
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