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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 25 2015 16:28 GMT
#4041
Guys I think I got a Tinfoil Hat Theory that can easily happen revolving me and HF: I might be the Unaware Miller who got Framed and HF is 100% Scum.
Explanation: Because the majority of the people in the game thought I was scum Night 1 Scum if they have a Framer(Which I am assuming in this scenario for my theory) they would Frame me and hope a Cop(GB) will check and will return me as a red check. But instead GB ended up with a Green Check on me so if Mafia did Frame me then I would be a Miller and HF is 100% scum since I doubt they would put 2 Millers and a Framer plus maybe a GF in the same setup and I don't think scum would Frame HF at all since they are worse looking townies in this game that mafia could easily Frame so HF since he returned as a red check will be 100% scum because of that.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 25 2015 16:56 GMT
#4042
On June 26 2015 01:28 LightningStrike wrote:
Guys I think I got a Tinfoil Hat Theory that can easily happen revolving me and HF: I might be the Unaware Miller who got Framed and HF is 100% Scum.
Explanation: Because the majority of the people in the game thought I was scum Night 1 Scum if they have a Framer(Which I am assuming in this scenario for my theory) they would Frame me and hope a Cop(GB) will check and will return me as a red check. But instead GB ended up with a Green Check on me so if Mafia did Frame me then I would be a Miller and HF is 100% scum since I doubt they would put 2 Millers and a Framer plus maybe a GF in the same setup and I don't think scum would Frame HF at all since they are worse looking townies in this game that mafia could easily Frame so HF since he returned as a red check will be 100% scum because of that.



Did ls just claim red?
Try TL Mafia!!!
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 25 2015 16:57 GMT
#4043
LS just claimed red to lynch HF
Try TL Mafia!!!
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 25 2015 17:10 GMT
#4044
I saying it's a Tin Foil Hat Theory meaning it just a Theory it's not proven and the term Tinfoil meaning it's a conspiracy theory.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 25 2015 17:11 GMT
#4045
Here is the definition of a Tin Foil Hat from Urban Dictionary: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tinfoil hat
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
NydusHerMain
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada492 Posts
June 25 2015 17:56 GMT
#4046
On June 26 2015 01:57 Onegu wrote:
LS just claimed red to lynch HF


When did you decide LS was scum after saying he was most likely town?
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 25 2015 17:58 GMT
#4047
On June 25 2015 22:55 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2015 21:15 rsoultin wrote:
On June 25 2015 14:13 Holyflare wrote:
On June 25 2015 13:22 rsoultin wrote:
mmm

the problem with the ruxx thing is while i have no fucking clue why RUXX would be the nk with ksc...i'm not sure why a mafia mig would mention bugs to try to draw out a medic claim if that slot is scum...

like the only way they could know that it was a stopped shot vs. a save is if the ruxx slot was some sort of mafia role that could be interfered with. the only ones i'm seeing there are:

rolecop, mafia vig (which almost seems like too much mafia kp with no apparent town kp), and framer

of those, rolecop makes the most sense i think, but that's neither here nor there


so now i'm kinda at that...is it more likely that ruxx is a mafia pr whose secondary action was stopped and mafia is hoping we assume that this gets him "cleared" so are willing to risk him too? (not completely out there given jk SHOULD be the last blue, and i don't believe bullets are refunded anyway)

or more likely that mafia just decides to shoot ruxxar over..a town hf, or myself, or ritoky softing, etc. etc. n1

...i dunnae i really find a ruxxar nk highly unbelievable, frankly


you realise that ruxxar was bugs right??????????????????

also you keep assuming i'm mafia which doesn't make any sense since i'm still just not mafia

also if I wanted to at the time I could have just switched to mig when GB asked if i wanted to quite easily and gotten him lynched/collected credit/saved myself the trouble and why on earth would i not just do that and instead try harder to get myself lynched if mig's plan all along was to claim tracker and get gb lynched?

seems like the worst plan in the history of ever to me

+ Show Spoiler +
On June 25 2015 05:52 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
I am town
I see a red check on me and I see an indirect red check on someone else

Will I doubt the Claimer or will I convince the claimer I'm not scum?



HOW FUCKING DUMB IS THIS LOLOOLOLOLOLOL

"I see a red check when i'm not red and have scum read the player all game"

"let's try and convince the person i'm not scum"

i'm convincing everyone else that you ARE mafia after my flip

because I WANT TO DIE SO THAT I CAN ENSURE THE FAKE COP DIES

LOL

spread more shit you fucker

lie about onegu
lie about mig's "towny plays" when i'm attacking mig as mafia
lie about cop checks
lie about scum reads
lie lie lie lie lie that's all you've done all game


From everything i've seen of your play. You basically hard defended mig all day and I don't know what alignment that makes him. Mig is very very very coin flippy at the moment. I would never lynch him over myself because the moment I die you are 100% fucked. FUCKED

F-U-C-K-E-D


also from the way things went down gb was ab
solutely a viable mislynch still at the end of n1 and the people going hardest against him were me and bugs, a bugs kill also perpetuates that situation


No shit ruxx was bugs. Glad you're reading my whole post and actually care what I say and making arguments for it ^^


I cut out all the irrelevant wifom where you assume all the mafia are tied together through one play like some kind of shitty idiot team and instead picked the really likely obvious option. You know since mafia mig changed last second to save gb to clearly spread irrelevant suspicion it's no far reach to assume the nk's were for the same reason.


hey if the shoe fits

no

i'm making very reasonable assumptions:
1. mig is mafia (cause he probably is and if he isn't the game's over after we lynch him, anyway, so unless someone has a good argument for why he's TOWN shut the fuck up)
2. mig did not expose himself needlessly to lynch one town over another, especially when having a TOWN holyflare out of the game by lynch has to be acceptable for pretty much any scumteam (because i don't think he's a complete fuck-up)
3. your reactions to both the original detective claim that went from LIAR!! to gb/mig practically confirmed town in an eye-blink, and then the tracker claim WHY WAIT SO LATE?! no, gb is scum scum scum anyway don't care how unrealistic this claim is
4. if you're dead-set on lynching gb, brilliant one, how is mig in danger again? that bullshit claim of his put him in more danger than just staying quiet and letting you be lynched. stop feeding me bullshit reasoning; i'm not a retard

so yes, you're tied in by association and shit, unrealistic reactions to claims. if i'm wrong and mig is town it doesn't fucking matter. and frankly, you have plenty of time to convince the other more gullible townies who actually will be here the day you're being considered for lynch, so stop wasting your time on me

the ruxxar reasoning has nothing to do with you. it is predicated on somehow mig KNEW who the jk saved AND the fact that it WAS the jk

you know what that means? that means that ASSUMING mig is scum which again all of this is irrelevant if he's not, mig knew specifically whether the JK saved the night kill or jailed the shot deliverer. how can he know that UNLESS the scum delivering the kp was some sort of scum power role, whose action either did or didn't go through?

no fucking way ruxxar is the nk with KELSIER who was obviously townie over you mr. town hero if you're really town, ritoky who was softing, or me. bugs was already out of the game and dead wrong and gonna push the shit out of gb besides

if scum is playing wifom games and not getting rid of good town players they don't kill kels

now, why don't you try to pretend you're town for a bit and actually consider what i'm saying about ruxx instead of just throwing shit at me every chance you get ^^
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 25 2015 18:01 GMT
#4048
read the part on ruxx nyd

if mig is scum he 100% knew WHICH of the two ends of the exchange (who was saved vs. who was doing the killing) was the one actually jailed. he can't possibly know that unless the one doing the killing had a secondary action that either WAS or WAS NOT interfered with so that he could narrow it down to ruxx

from there it's just how realistic is a NIGHT ONE RUXXAR night kill
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 25 2015 18:05 GMT
#4049
it's no offense to you, ruxx, really. i <3 you and i enjoyed coaching you. but you're just not a n1 kill unless the scum team is high or just like completely afk for when bugs gets replaced
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 25 2015 18:06 GMT
#4050
On June 26 2015 02:58 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2015 22:55 Holyflare wrote:
On June 25 2015 21:15 rsoultin wrote:
On June 25 2015 14:13 Holyflare wrote:
On June 25 2015 13:22 rsoultin wrote:
mmm

the problem with the ruxx thing is while i have no fucking clue why RUXX would be the nk with ksc...i'm not sure why a mafia mig would mention bugs to try to draw out a medic claim if that slot is scum...

like the only way they could know that it was a stopped shot vs. a save is if the ruxx slot was some sort of mafia role that could be interfered with. the only ones i'm seeing there are:

rolecop, mafia vig (which almost seems like too much mafia kp with no apparent town kp), and framer

of those, rolecop makes the most sense i think, but that's neither here nor there


so now i'm kinda at that...is it more likely that ruxx is a mafia pr whose secondary action was stopped and mafia is hoping we assume that this gets him "cleared" so are willing to risk him too? (not completely out there given jk SHOULD be the last blue, and i don't believe bullets are refunded anyway)

or more likely that mafia just decides to shoot ruxxar over..a town hf, or myself, or ritoky softing, etc. etc. n1

...i dunnae i really find a ruxxar nk highly unbelievable, frankly


you realise that ruxxar was bugs right??????????????????

also you keep assuming i'm mafia which doesn't make any sense since i'm still just not mafia

also if I wanted to at the time I could have just switched to mig when GB asked if i wanted to quite easily and gotten him lynched/collected credit/saved myself the trouble and why on earth would i not just do that and instead try harder to get myself lynched if mig's plan all along was to claim tracker and get gb lynched?

seems like the worst plan in the history of ever to me

+ Show Spoiler +
On June 25 2015 05:52 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
I am town
I see a red check on me and I see an indirect red check on someone else

Will I doubt the Claimer or will I convince the claimer I'm not scum?



HOW FUCKING DUMB IS THIS LOLOOLOLOLOLOL

"I see a red check when i'm not red and have scum read the player all game"

"let's try and convince the person i'm not scum"

i'm convincing everyone else that you ARE mafia after my flip

because I WANT TO DIE SO THAT I CAN ENSURE THE FAKE COP DIES

LOL

spread more shit you fucker

lie about onegu
lie about mig's "towny plays" when i'm attacking mig as mafia
lie about cop checks
lie about scum reads
lie lie lie lie lie that's all you've done all game


From everything i've seen of your play. You basically hard defended mig all day and I don't know what alignment that makes him. Mig is very very very coin flippy at the moment. I would never lynch him over myself because the moment I die you are 100% fucked. FUCKED

F-U-C-K-E-D


also from the way things went down gb was ab
solutely a viable mislynch still at the end of n1 and the people going hardest against him were me and bugs, a bugs kill also perpetuates that situation


No shit ruxx was bugs. Glad you're reading my whole post and actually care what I say and making arguments for it ^^


I cut out all the irrelevant wifom where you assume all the mafia are tied together through one play like some kind of shitty idiot team and instead picked the really likely obvious option. You know since mafia mig changed last second to save gb to clearly spread irrelevant suspicion it's no far reach to assume the nk's were for the same reason.


hey if the shoe fits

no

i'm making very reasonable assumptions:
1. mig is mafia (cause he probably is and if he isn't the game's over after we lynch him, anyway, so unless someone has a good argument for why he's TOWN shut the fuck up)
2. mig did not expose himself needlessly to lynch one town over another, especially when having a TOWN holyflare out of the game by lynch has to be acceptable for pretty much any scumteam (because i don't think he's a complete fuck-up)
3. your reactions to both the original detective claim that went from LIAR!! to gb/mig practically confirmed town in an eye-blink, and then the tracker claim WHY WAIT SO LATE?! no, gb is scum scum scum anyway don't care how unrealistic this claim is
4. if you're dead-set on lynching gb, brilliant one, how is mig in danger again? that bullshit claim of his put him in more danger than just staying quiet and letting you be lynched. stop feeding me bullshit reasoning; i'm not a retard

so yes, you're tied in by association and shit, unrealistic reactions to claims. if i'm wrong and mig is town it doesn't fucking matter. and frankly, you have plenty of time to convince the other more gullible townies who actually will be here the day you're being considered for lynch, so stop wasting your time on me

the ruxxar reasoning has nothing to do with you. it is predicated on somehow mig KNEW who the jk saved AND the fact that it WAS the jk

you know what that means? that means that ASSUMING mig is scum which again all of this is irrelevant if he's not, mig knew specifically whether the JK saved the night kill or jailed the shot deliverer. how can he know that UNLESS the scum delivering the kp was some sort of scum power role, whose action either did or didn't go through?

no fucking way ruxxar is the nk with KELSIER who was obviously townie over you mr. town hero if you're really town, ritoky who was softing, or me. bugs was already out of the game and dead wrong and gonna push the shit out of gb besides

if scum is playing wifom games and not getting rid of good town players they don't kill kels

now, why don't you try to pretend you're town for a bit and actually consider what i'm saying about ruxx instead of just throwing shit at me every chance you get ^^

Ugh did you realized that Bugs wasn't replaced when these actions happened? Bugs did look townie though in my eyes but he could of been pocketing me when he was around.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 25 2015 18:06 GMT
#4051
On June 26 2015 01:28 LightningStrike wrote:
Guys I think I got a Tinfoil Hat Theory that can easily happen revolving me and HF: I might be the Unaware Miller who got Framed and HF is 100% Scum.
Explanation: Because the majority of the people in the game thought I was scum Night 1 Scum if they have a Framer(Which I am assuming in this scenario for my theory) they would Frame me and hope a Cop(GB) will check and will return me as a red check. But instead GB ended up with a Green Check on me so if Mafia did Frame me then I would be a Miller and HF is 100% scum since I doubt they would put 2 Millers and a Framer plus maybe a GF in the same setup and I don't think scum would Frame HF at all since they are worse looking townies in this game that mafia could easily Frame so HF since he returned as a red check will be 100% scum because of that.


pure speculation? there's like no way you can prove this ls lol >< why even say it?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 25 2015 18:08 GMT
#4052
On June 26 2015 03:06 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2015 02:58 rsoultin wrote:
On June 25 2015 22:55 Holyflare wrote:
On June 25 2015 21:15 rsoultin wrote:
On June 25 2015 14:13 Holyflare wrote:
On June 25 2015 13:22 rsoultin wrote:
mmm

the problem with the ruxx thing is while i have no fucking clue why RUXX would be the nk with ksc...i'm not sure why a mafia mig would mention bugs to try to draw out a medic claim if that slot is scum...

like the only way they could know that it was a stopped shot vs. a save is if the ruxx slot was some sort of mafia role that could be interfered with. the only ones i'm seeing there are:

rolecop, mafia vig (which almost seems like too much mafia kp with no apparent town kp), and framer

of those, rolecop makes the most sense i think, but that's neither here nor there


so now i'm kinda at that...is it more likely that ruxx is a mafia pr whose secondary action was stopped and mafia is hoping we assume that this gets him "cleared" so are willing to risk him too? (not completely out there given jk SHOULD be the last blue, and i don't believe bullets are refunded anyway)

or more likely that mafia just decides to shoot ruxxar over..a town hf, or myself, or ritoky softing, etc. etc. n1

...i dunnae i really find a ruxxar nk highly unbelievable, frankly


you realise that ruxxar was bugs right??????????????????

also you keep assuming i'm mafia which doesn't make any sense since i'm still just not mafia

also if I wanted to at the time I could have just switched to mig when GB asked if i wanted to quite easily and gotten him lynched/collected credit/saved myself the trouble and why on earth would i not just do that and instead try harder to get myself lynched if mig's plan all along was to claim tracker and get gb lynched?

seems like the worst plan in the history of ever to me

+ Show Spoiler +
On June 25 2015 05:52 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
I am town
I see a red check on me and I see an indirect red check on someone else

Will I doubt the Claimer or will I convince the claimer I'm not scum?



HOW FUCKING DUMB IS THIS LOLOOLOLOLOLOL

"I see a red check when i'm not red and have scum read the player all game"

"let's try and convince the person i'm not scum"

i'm convincing everyone else that you ARE mafia after my flip

because I WANT TO DIE SO THAT I CAN ENSURE THE FAKE COP DIES

LOL

spread more shit you fucker

lie about onegu
lie about mig's "towny plays" when i'm attacking mig as mafia
lie about cop checks
lie about scum reads
lie lie lie lie lie that's all you've done all game


From everything i've seen of your play. You basically hard defended mig all day and I don't know what alignment that makes him. Mig is very very very coin flippy at the moment. I would never lynch him over myself because the moment I die you are 100% fucked. FUCKED

F-U-C-K-E-D


also from the way things went down gb was ab
solutely a viable mislynch still at the end of n1 and the people going hardest against him were me and bugs, a bugs kill also perpetuates that situation


No shit ruxx was bugs. Glad you're reading my whole post and actually care what I say and making arguments for it ^^


I cut out all the irrelevant wifom where you assume all the mafia are tied together through one play like some kind of shitty idiot team and instead picked the really likely obvious option. You know since mafia mig changed last second to save gb to clearly spread irrelevant suspicion it's no far reach to assume the nk's were for the same reason.


hey if the shoe fits

no

i'm making very reasonable assumptions:
1. mig is mafia (cause he probably is and if he isn't the game's over after we lynch him, anyway, so unless someone has a good argument for why he's TOWN shut the fuck up)
2. mig did not expose himself needlessly to lynch one town over another, especially when having a TOWN holyflare out of the game by lynch has to be acceptable for pretty much any scumteam (because i don't think he's a complete fuck-up)
3. your reactions to both the original detective claim that went from LIAR!! to gb/mig practically confirmed town in an eye-blink, and then the tracker claim WHY WAIT SO LATE?! no, gb is scum scum scum anyway don't care how unrealistic this claim is
4. if you're dead-set on lynching gb, brilliant one, how is mig in danger again? that bullshit claim of his put him in more danger than just staying quiet and letting you be lynched. stop feeding me bullshit reasoning; i'm not a retard

so yes, you're tied in by association and shit, unrealistic reactions to claims. if i'm wrong and mig is town it doesn't fucking matter. and frankly, you have plenty of time to convince the other more gullible townies who actually will be here the day you're being considered for lynch, so stop wasting your time on me

the ruxxar reasoning has nothing to do with you. it is predicated on somehow mig KNEW who the jk saved AND the fact that it WAS the jk

you know what that means? that means that ASSUMING mig is scum which again all of this is irrelevant if he's not, mig knew specifically whether the JK saved the night kill or jailed the shot deliverer. how can he know that UNLESS the scum delivering the kp was some sort of scum power role, whose action either did or didn't go through?

no fucking way ruxxar is the nk with KELSIER who was obviously townie over you mr. town hero if you're really town, ritoky who was softing, or me. bugs was already out of the game and dead wrong and gonna push the shit out of gb besides

if scum is playing wifom games and not getting rid of good town players they don't kill kels

now, why don't you try to pretend you're town for a bit and actually consider what i'm saying about ruxx instead of just throwing shit at me every chance you get ^^

Ugh did you realized that Bugs wasn't replaced when these actions happened? Bugs did look townie though in my eyes but he could of been pocketing me when he was around.


recheck the thread

i'll help you cause i'm not the sort of idiot who says these things without looking at it first

approximately page 130 was the beginning of day 2

approximately page 127...FOUR HOURS EARLIER...was when ruxxar replaced bugs
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 25 2015 18:08 GMT
#4053
On June 26 2015 03:06 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2015 02:58 rsoultin wrote:
On June 25 2015 22:55 Holyflare wrote:
On June 25 2015 21:15 rsoultin wrote:
On June 25 2015 14:13 Holyflare wrote:
On June 25 2015 13:22 rsoultin wrote:
mmm

the problem with the ruxx thing is while i have no fucking clue why RUXX would be the nk with ksc...i'm not sure why a mafia mig would mention bugs to try to draw out a medic claim if that slot is scum...

like the only way they could know that it was a stopped shot vs. a save is if the ruxx slot was some sort of mafia role that could be interfered with. the only ones i'm seeing there are:

rolecop, mafia vig (which almost seems like too much mafia kp with no apparent town kp), and framer

of those, rolecop makes the most sense i think, but that's neither here nor there


so now i'm kinda at that...is it more likely that ruxx is a mafia pr whose secondary action was stopped and mafia is hoping we assume that this gets him "cleared" so are willing to risk him too? (not completely out there given jk SHOULD be the last blue, and i don't believe bullets are refunded anyway)

or more likely that mafia just decides to shoot ruxxar over..a town hf, or myself, or ritoky softing, etc. etc. n1

...i dunnae i really find a ruxxar nk highly unbelievable, frankly


you realise that ruxxar was bugs right??????????????????

also you keep assuming i'm mafia which doesn't make any sense since i'm still just not mafia

also if I wanted to at the time I could have just switched to mig when GB asked if i wanted to quite easily and gotten him lynched/collected credit/saved myself the trouble and why on earth would i not just do that and instead try harder to get myself lynched if mig's plan all along was to claim tracker and get gb lynched?

seems like the worst plan in the history of ever to me

+ Show Spoiler +
On June 25 2015 05:52 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
I am town
I see a red check on me and I see an indirect red check on someone else

Will I doubt the Claimer or will I convince the claimer I'm not scum?



HOW FUCKING DUMB IS THIS LOLOOLOLOLOLOL

"I see a red check when i'm not red and have scum read the player all game"

"let's try and convince the person i'm not scum"

i'm convincing everyone else that you ARE mafia after my flip

because I WANT TO DIE SO THAT I CAN ENSURE THE FAKE COP DIES

LOL

spread more shit you fucker

lie about onegu
lie about mig's "towny plays" when i'm attacking mig as mafia
lie about cop checks
lie about scum reads
lie lie lie lie lie that's all you've done all game


From everything i've seen of your play. You basically hard defended mig all day and I don't know what alignment that makes him. Mig is very very very coin flippy at the moment. I would never lynch him over myself because the moment I die you are 100% fucked. FUCKED

F-U-C-K-E-D


also from the way things went down gb was ab
solutely a viable mislynch still at the end of n1 and the people going hardest against him were me and bugs, a bugs kill also perpetuates that situation


No shit ruxx was bugs. Glad you're reading my whole post and actually care what I say and making arguments for it ^^


I cut out all the irrelevant wifom where you assume all the mafia are tied together through one play like some kind of shitty idiot team and instead picked the really likely obvious option. You know since mafia mig changed last second to save gb to clearly spread irrelevant suspicion it's no far reach to assume the nk's were for the same reason.


hey if the shoe fits

no

i'm making very reasonable assumptions:
1. mig is mafia (cause he probably is and if he isn't the game's over after we lynch him, anyway, so unless someone has a good argument for why he's TOWN shut the fuck up)
2. mig did not expose himself needlessly to lynch one town over another, especially when having a TOWN holyflare out of the game by lynch has to be acceptable for pretty much any scumteam (because i don't think he's a complete fuck-up)
3. your reactions to both the original detective claim that went from LIAR!! to gb/mig practically confirmed town in an eye-blink, and then the tracker claim WHY WAIT SO LATE?! no, gb is scum scum scum anyway don't care how unrealistic this claim is
4. if you're dead-set on lynching gb, brilliant one, how is mig in danger again? that bullshit claim of his put him in more danger than just staying quiet and letting you be lynched. stop feeding me bullshit reasoning; i'm not a retard

so yes, you're tied in by association and shit, unrealistic reactions to claims. if i'm wrong and mig is town it doesn't fucking matter. and frankly, you have plenty of time to convince the other more gullible townies who actually will be here the day you're being considered for lynch, so stop wasting your time on me

the ruxxar reasoning has nothing to do with you. it is predicated on somehow mig KNEW who the jk saved AND the fact that it WAS the jk

you know what that means? that means that ASSUMING mig is scum which again all of this is irrelevant if he's not, mig knew specifically whether the JK saved the night kill or jailed the shot deliverer. how can he know that UNLESS the scum delivering the kp was some sort of scum power role, whose action either did or didn't go through?

no fucking way ruxxar is the nk with KELSIER who was obviously townie over you mr. town hero if you're really town, ritoky who was softing, or me. bugs was already out of the game and dead wrong and gonna push the shit out of gb besides

if scum is playing wifom games and not getting rid of good town players they don't kill kels

now, why don't you try to pretend you're town for a bit and actually consider what i'm saying about ruxx instead of just throwing shit at me every chance you get ^^

Ugh did you realized that Bugs wasn't replaced when these actions happened? Bugs did look townie though in my eyes but he could of been pocketing me when he was around.

NVM I was blind I thought he got replaced at EoN lol.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 25 2015 18:10 GMT
#4054
On June 26 2015 03:06 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2015 01:28 LightningStrike wrote:
Guys I think I got a Tinfoil Hat Theory that can easily happen revolving me and HF: I might be the Unaware Miller who got Framed and HF is 100% Scum.
Explanation: Because the majority of the people in the game thought I was scum Night 1 Scum if they have a Framer(Which I am assuming in this scenario for my theory) they would Frame me and hope a Cop(GB) will check and will return me as a red check. But instead GB ended up with a Green Check on me so if Mafia did Frame me then I would be a Miller and HF is 100% scum since I doubt they would put 2 Millers and a Framer plus maybe a GF in the same setup and I don't think scum would Frame HF at all since they are worse looking townies in this game that mafia could easily Frame so HF since he returned as a red check will be 100% scum because of that.


pure speculation? there's like no way you can prove this ls lol >< why even say it?

We needed some tinfoil since the king of them is not around plus I know it's pure speculation but it would make a ton of sense since I was scumread by the majority of the players Night 1 so if Scum had a Framer they could of Framed me and GB gets a green check on me so it woulda confirmed me as a Miller but again it's setup speculation we wont know until the game ends lol.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 25 2015 18:11 GMT
#4055
On June 26 2015 03:08 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2015 03:06 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 26 2015 02:58 rsoultin wrote:
On June 25 2015 22:55 Holyflare wrote:
On June 25 2015 21:15 rsoultin wrote:
On June 25 2015 14:13 Holyflare wrote:
On June 25 2015 13:22 rsoultin wrote:
mmm

the problem with the ruxx thing is while i have no fucking clue why RUXX would be the nk with ksc...i'm not sure why a mafia mig would mention bugs to try to draw out a medic claim if that slot is scum...

like the only way they could know that it was a stopped shot vs. a save is if the ruxx slot was some sort of mafia role that could be interfered with. the only ones i'm seeing there are:

rolecop, mafia vig (which almost seems like too much mafia kp with no apparent town kp), and framer

of those, rolecop makes the most sense i think, but that's neither here nor there


so now i'm kinda at that...is it more likely that ruxx is a mafia pr whose secondary action was stopped and mafia is hoping we assume that this gets him "cleared" so are willing to risk him too? (not completely out there given jk SHOULD be the last blue, and i don't believe bullets are refunded anyway)

or more likely that mafia just decides to shoot ruxxar over..a town hf, or myself, or ritoky softing, etc. etc. n1

...i dunnae i really find a ruxxar nk highly unbelievable, frankly


you realise that ruxxar was bugs right??????????????????

also you keep assuming i'm mafia which doesn't make any sense since i'm still just not mafia

also if I wanted to at the time I could have just switched to mig when GB asked if i wanted to quite easily and gotten him lynched/collected credit/saved myself the trouble and why on earth would i not just do that and instead try harder to get myself lynched if mig's plan all along was to claim tracker and get gb lynched?

seems like the worst plan in the history of ever to me

+ Show Spoiler +
On June 25 2015 05:52 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
I am town
I see a red check on me and I see an indirect red check on someone else

Will I doubt the Claimer or will I convince the claimer I'm not scum?



HOW FUCKING DUMB IS THIS LOLOOLOLOLOLOL

"I see a red check when i'm not red and have scum read the player all game"

"let's try and convince the person i'm not scum"

i'm convincing everyone else that you ARE mafia after my flip

because I WANT TO DIE SO THAT I CAN ENSURE THE FAKE COP DIES

LOL

spread more shit you fucker

lie about onegu
lie about mig's "towny plays" when i'm attacking mig as mafia
lie about cop checks
lie about scum reads
lie lie lie lie lie that's all you've done all game


From everything i've seen of your play. You basically hard defended mig all day and I don't know what alignment that makes him. Mig is very very very coin flippy at the moment. I would never lynch him over myself because the moment I die you are 100% fucked. FUCKED

F-U-C-K-E-D


also from the way things went down gb was ab
solutely a viable mislynch still at the end of n1 and the people going hardest against him were me and bugs, a bugs kill also perpetuates that situation


No shit ruxx was bugs. Glad you're reading my whole post and actually care what I say and making arguments for it ^^


I cut out all the irrelevant wifom where you assume all the mafia are tied together through one play like some kind of shitty idiot team and instead picked the really likely obvious option. You know since mafia mig changed last second to save gb to clearly spread irrelevant suspicion it's no far reach to assume the nk's were for the same reason.


hey if the shoe fits

no

i'm making very reasonable assumptions:
1. mig is mafia (cause he probably is and if he isn't the game's over after we lynch him, anyway, so unless someone has a good argument for why he's TOWN shut the fuck up)
2. mig did not expose himself needlessly to lynch one town over another, especially when having a TOWN holyflare out of the game by lynch has to be acceptable for pretty much any scumteam (because i don't think he's a complete fuck-up)
3. your reactions to both the original detective claim that went from LIAR!! to gb/mig practically confirmed town in an eye-blink, and then the tracker claim WHY WAIT SO LATE?! no, gb is scum scum scum anyway don't care how unrealistic this claim is
4. if you're dead-set on lynching gb, brilliant one, how is mig in danger again? that bullshit claim of his put him in more danger than just staying quiet and letting you be lynched. stop feeding me bullshit reasoning; i'm not a retard

so yes, you're tied in by association and shit, unrealistic reactions to claims. if i'm wrong and mig is town it doesn't fucking matter. and frankly, you have plenty of time to convince the other more gullible townies who actually will be here the day you're being considered for lynch, so stop wasting your time on me

the ruxxar reasoning has nothing to do with you. it is predicated on somehow mig KNEW who the jk saved AND the fact that it WAS the jk

you know what that means? that means that ASSUMING mig is scum which again all of this is irrelevant if he's not, mig knew specifically whether the JK saved the night kill or jailed the shot deliverer. how can he know that UNLESS the scum delivering the kp was some sort of scum power role, whose action either did or didn't go through?

no fucking way ruxxar is the nk with KELSIER who was obviously townie over you mr. town hero if you're really town, ritoky who was softing, or me. bugs was already out of the game and dead wrong and gonna push the shit out of gb besides

if scum is playing wifom games and not getting rid of good town players they don't kill kels

now, why don't you try to pretend you're town for a bit and actually consider what i'm saying about ruxx instead of just throwing shit at me every chance you get ^^

Ugh did you realized that Bugs wasn't replaced when these actions happened? Bugs did look townie though in my eyes but he could of been pocketing me when he was around.


recheck the thread

i'll help you cause i'm not the sort of idiot who says these things without looking at it first

approximately page 130 was the beginning of day 2

approximately page 127...FOUR HOURS EARLIER...was when ruxxar replaced bugs

I thought it was at EoN when bugs got replaced lol.
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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 25 2015 18:12 GMT
#4056
lol just to remind people

even though ls had threatened to quit the game

hf guessed (and, granted, the conclusion COULD be drawn from bugs' last post, but how he was so sure i don't know) that it was actually bugs who was being replaced over ls, mig, yama...could that have been innocent. yes. but that he was so sure with all these afkers and your reaction not long before, ls, is very interesting to me
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 25 2015 18:15 GMT
#4057
anyway i'm at

mig/ruxx/hf/shockey <- post-game cred

outside chance of oneg

mig, ruxx, hf almost definitely scum...if i'm not here tomorrow and y'all don't lynch mig -_- well, there's not much i can do about it but you should be feeling my DISPLEASURE beating on all your heads the WHOLE TIME lol ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
NydusHerMain
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada492 Posts
June 25 2015 18:16 GMT
#4058
On June 26 2015 03:01 rsoultin wrote:
read the part on ruxx nyd

if mig is scum he 100% knew WHICH of the two ends of the exchange (who was saved vs. who was doing the killing) was the one actually jailed. he can't possibly know that unless the one doing the killing had a secondary action that either WAS or WAS NOT interfered with so that he could narrow it down to ruxx

from there it's just how realistic is a NIGHT ONE RUXXAR night kill


I think I'm dumb and have no reading comprehension. Can you explain that more clearly please ><
NydusHerMain
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada492 Posts
June 25 2015 18:16 GMT
#4059
I think I'm just less experienced with these roles
NydusHerMain
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada492 Posts
June 25 2015 18:20 GMT
#4060
On June 26 2015 03:15 rsoultin wrote:
anyway i'm at

mig/ruxx/hf/shockey <- post-game cred

outside chance of oneg

mig, ruxx, hf almost definitely scum...if i'm not here tomorrow and y'all don't lynch mig -_- well, there's not much i can do about it but you should be feeling my DISPLEASURE beating on all your heads the WHOLE TIME lol ><


I'm at mig/shockey/onegu and last one is probably hf? But I think he's townier than whoever the other guy is I forgot to mention
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