EPTOn June 19 2015 07:08 Half the Sky wrote:
boxerfred (8): rsoultin, Fidei86, Damdred, NydusHerMain, Onegu, Mig, ShoCkeyy, GlowingBear
GlowingBear (7): wherebugsgo, VayneAuthority, LightningStrike, Holyflare, boxerfred, Breshke, KelsierSC
ShoCkeyy (1): ritoky
Not voted (1): Lohengramm
Slipping from the ledge, boxerfred has fallen into the abyss.
Day 1 has ended.
Final Day 1 Vote Count
boxerfred (8): rsoultin, Fidei86, Damdred, NydusHerMain, Onegu, Mig, ShoCkeyy, GlowingBear
GlowingBear (7): wherebugsgo, VayneAuthority, LightningStrike, Holyflare, boxerfred, Breshke, KelsierSC
ShoCkeyy (1): ritoky
Not voted (1): Lohengramm
Slipping from the ledge, boxerfred has fallen into the abyss.
Day 1 has ended.
First I'm coloring in the players who I consider to be confirmed town. Not going to spend much time on this, but for the sake of having everything in one place...
- If you don't like me calling myself confirmed town, you can suck it ^^
- Fidei is town because he is town.
- Lightningstrike is town by a combination of not being motivated as scum and what I call the "not an asshole" argument linked here
From here I'm going to move on to the players I'm most familiar with. Including Nydus just cause I think he's fairly obvious despite my limited exposure to him. Not including GB cause I want to look at him harder and ignore the tone thing for a bit before I decide if my rebelliousness is justified or not lol
[QUOTE]On June 19 2015 07:08 Half the Sky wrote:
Final Day 1 Vote Count
boxerfred (8): rsoultin, Fidei86, Damdred, NydusHerMain, Onegu, Mig, ShoCkeyy, GlowingBear
GlowingBear (7): wherebugsgo, VayneAuthority, LightningStrike, Holyflare, boxerfred, Breshke, KelsierSC
ShoCkeyy (1): ritoky
Not voted (1): Lohengramm
KSC has literally one of the most solid filters in the game. Between being part of most everything going on to the way his reads evolve and shape his voting behaviors, right up to the last-minute switch back onto GB and his willingness to entertain other arguments...I find no red flags. Regardless of GB's alignment, it's very unlikely that KSC is scum either attempting to hammer a scummate or trying to be the hammer on a town mislynch. Solid town. My one question to you KSC is what exactly in boxer's final post was it that you liked so much?
Holyflare - lol so...apparently not being able to play like i normally do and only getting snapshots of people's play is really hurting my ability to read the more spammy players like hf. this is not his scum play which is rather lackluster (at least to me) ... sorry! town, obviously
Breshke - interesting beast, bresh. highly introspective/analytical, very inclined to look at things from both sides and therefore slow to form scumreads, but the questions and the pushes are not things he actually replicates too well as scum which is why he's a generally easy catch. also that he keeps pushing at and questioning his scumreads is what i associate with his town game. fairly confident on this one
Damdred - and yet another player i waffled on earlier who i like just fine on a reread of his filter but i really want to see him posting tonight ;o; tone, tone, tone...i know my net hubby! (nah, seriously, it's not the nicest toneread but the yay \o/ caught scum! then the awww why you guys no listen to me :/ thing is just so classic town damdy and before anyone says he can do that as scum, i've never mentioned this before regarding him lol and there's no reason for scum to think of it naturally...emotion is not easy to fake and very easy to overlook)
Nydus - don't know him ^^ still think he's townie, could qualify it but unlike those i know it's nothing terribly specific beyond the usual townready things and his voting behavior aligning with his reads fine
Onegu - town, probably. taking the meta out for a test drive. oneg tends to be bored and not care much about the thread as town, but what he does do often is gets a few reads (based on shit reasons sometimes or very ill-informed ones, but whatevs) and hold onto those so tenaciously it makes you want to beat him with a stick. gb town. he won't vote gb. end of story...as scum i'd expect him to not back himself into a corner that way, as a sidenote...the hedge is again this is a test drive but i think i actually nailed his play decently when looking for a weakness in his meta as scum lol ><
ritoky not as strong a townread as ksc but the vote out in the middle of nowhere that i usually would associate with scum if it's a town v. town at least was consistent with his townreading both gb and bf while trying to get votes on shockey and mig. most of his play this game i've liked. my main reservation is the hard push on ls despite believing he was town cause i just don't get that line of thinking. won't lynch tomorrow unless there's something compelling to convince me otherwise
Lohengramm/Yamato - Not a lot to read on him. He made it clear he was willing to lynch both BF and GB with more of a lean towards BF, yet ultimately voted for neither. It also reads like he's warming up to a GB vote as the thread progresses. Regardless of GB's alignment here, when he could swing the vote enough to actually lynch GB but didn't choose to, it doesn't look good. Plus I've seen this oh suddenly couldn't be here for lynch for X reason from scum before. Ritoky in Down Under, to be exact. Scum lean.
Shockeyy - Don't get his voting behavior at all. While he does say that BF is "weird" and GB is "null", he then completely focuses on GB answering a question of his that has more to do with mafia theory than the game itself in the middle of all the fireworks. I agree with KSC that the whole ANSWER MY QUESTION OR I LYNCH YOU (at least till 10 mins in) is strange >< The question isn't even that important and saying that he'll keep the vote there until 10 mins pretty much negates the pressure in the first place. Then somehow he still thinks BF is more scummy despite GB deciding to vote him with ritoky and KSC? I can't follow the logic at all, regardless of GB's alignment. Prob scum. (not terribly important, but i also can't follow his read flip on me that he says he bolded just so it could be understood???)
Onto the people I'm not sure how to read or just need to look at hard @.@
[QUOTE]On June 19 2015 07:08 Half the Sky wrote:
Final Day 1 Vote Count
boxerfred (8): rsoultin, Fidei86, Damdred, NydusHerMain, Onegu, Mig, ShoCkeyy, GlowingBear
GlowingBear (7): wherebugsgo, VayneAuthority, LightningStrike, Holyflare, boxerfred, Breshke, KelsierSC
ShoCkeyy (1): ritoky
Not voted (1): Lohengramm
Mig bugs me. The boxer thing is not very alignment indicative, honestly, at least not the way Mig expresses it. Oh the person who says he has no time comes in to vote counterwagon to save himself then says nothing...must be scummier than the scumread I entered the thread with and have been scumreading all the way up to this point! No sense no sense no sense. Rit I think you were right I'm sorry lol >< Prob scum.
WBG i'm just going to go with my gut on and stop letting y'all distract me by saying he's good when I'm instead seeing a lot of...i've decided so-and-so is scum and i have to argue with everything cause it's in my blood...going on. Maybe that works for him. I still think coming into the thread highlighting players who are not under scrutiny is most likely town-motivated. Plus, GB town there's no reason to be this invested as scum, and GB scum even less reason to be invested in getting him lynched. Townlean almost full townread.
VA null. I dunnae. I don't know that I will know. Blah. He ends up in my PoE list by default, though lol ><
GB...tone says town. I stand by that meta/tone thing...yet I'm clearly missing scum somewhere in one of my townreads and he's the most contested one
Also every single one of my other scumreads/leans/null reads could easily be scum with him (or not with him) except VA probably. Which means his alignment is probably the key to the whole thing. I will look at the scumreads on him in depth but probably not before the night phase is over cause 2 a.m. and school tomorrow @.@TLDR;
would lynch in order: Shockeyy, Mig, Lohengramm, VA
need to review in-depth: GB, rit
(also kinda bugs me i ended up with people posting some of the least lol >< but whatever)
i'll stick around for a few more minutes but i need sleep
