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On June 12 2015 08:16 MoosyDoosy wrote: I am just rather overwhelmed by the amount of (cross) analysis occurring right now. ^.^ Although this is my first time around, I can already tell this will be great. Down to business. So @ruXxar, your reasoning for voting for Kickstart is his statement about lying in a game of Mafia? And @Trfel, can you please share why you're suspecting @ruXxar? I would have to agree with ruXxar's point that it is generally annoying when someone answers a question directed at you. Although I don't see why Kickstart went so far as to vote for Oatsmaster right off the bat. Unless he's the Mafia and trying to mislead us. On another note, do we know how many Mafias there are? If there are two Mafias, Oatsmaster and Kickstart may be those two and may have set this up to make everyone confused and make people like you two fight amongst yourselves. people should be talking about this. | ||
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On June 12 2015 10:29 WaveofShadow wrote: I invited you to talk to me but you've given me the cold shoulder thus far. I has a sad  Kinda busy dog sitting. Was really sruprised when people didn't jump on that post at all. Like that's a post that mafia would usually be all over if that guy's town. It's so... indecisive... passive... unopinionated... blah. I've only skimmed but that was one of two posts that stuck out to me. Batsnacks weird post stuck out to me too. IDK what he's doing, pulling a chezinu? IDK. I couldn't figure out wtf he was trying to say. I'll look at it again later when I get a full read in, but his post was at least interesting even if it is probably NAI | ||
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On June 12 2015 10:55 WaveofShadow wrote: On this note though, actually. You expected people to post about that, specifically you expected mafia to jump on that and call him scum for being bad, so what does it mean to you exactly that no one did? (And what is NAI?) nai = not alignment indicative And yes. I was surprised that no one had commented on the post because it's a post that I would expect mafia to push hard if the guy was town. So it's not just the odd post. It's also the fact that it went unnoticed; ie. why wouldu mafia ignore lynchbait post? | ||
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On June 12 2015 10:12 Sulfurus wrote: I'm starting to really like the case on Kickstarter; he has made a lot of posts that give the illusion of being a helpful towny with his PSA and rule clarifications but they are really just filler and something that the mods already have covered. On top of that I think n00bKing's defense of ruXx is spot on which gives even more validity to the Kickstarter push. ##Vote: Kickstarter (I admit that in a vacuum I would probably scum read Bats more but I've learned my lesson from last game) This post is pretty bad. On June 12 2015 10:30 Kickstart wrote: Because I've had the urge to troll you since I came back to playing mafia Oats. I can't help myself. Don't worry though the 2 scums atm are ruxxar and sulfurus so you are not in my tunnel atm. Decent town tone read. Oats might actually be town. IDK. Haven't had a great read on him in a while. But I'm ok with his ruxxar read. I kinda think Rels is town. His push based on confirmations is bad, but the initial reasoning isn't awful. Boxerfred might be town. I don't think he'd try to cut out of playing after his last game if he rolled mafia. Not 100% but maybe don't lynch him d1. The only thing I think I can remember about noobking is that he's only like posted on random bullshit. Like lying or whatever. He's meh at best. Moose is maybe town. His posting is confidentish and I can understand how his thought process moves around. Wubbybumpkins is pretty weird. I'm tempted to try and get him lynched, but I haven't gotten to play with him in a while. Besides I like how the carpet matches the drapes  LOL wave. I can always be mafia, but that's because Prome isn't around Oooh Damdred replaced in. That guy's town 100%. ezpz. | ||
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On June 13 2015 03:12 WaveofShadow wrote: You wish you could get me lynched bbygrl. I like your 'everyone is town' list. Especially the part where you exclude me from it. It's only like 5 people which makes me really sad. I want another 2-3. | ||
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On June 13 2015 03:13 Damdred wrote: I'll take all the free town reads and get shot tonight. That would be boss. You've activated my trap card Scumdred | ||
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On June 13 2015 03:17 scott31337 wrote: And how he obviously hasn't read the whole thread. Nah I have. I was going through and put my thoughts in somewhat along as I was reading. But it kinda turned into commenting on people who made a post I liked. I saw your initial post. It seemed ok ish iirc. | ||
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On June 13 2015 03:20 MoosyDoosy wrote: geript basically contributed nothing with that post. All he did was reiterate everything we said in the previous pages and banter a bit. Would also appreciate it if you explained your absence and why you left after WaveofShadow called you out @geript. dogsitting, job hunting, drinking, getting food, talking with my sister in prep for my trip to see her next week, watching LPL, taking the dogs out to pee, watching LCK, taking the dogs out on a walk, watching EU LSC, watching porn, feeding the dogs, jerking off, jerking the dogs off. You know the usual. | ||
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Clearly that guy is 3P. | ||
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On June 13 2015 03:22 WaveofShadow wrote: Geript I don't understand how you go from seemingly town-->scum-->town on moosy without any real change in anything he has done. Not following thought processes with you at all, though I think that actually might be standard for you and it annoys me. Never assumed he was town to start w/ babycakes. Moreso: 1. Moosy makes a god awful post --> I think he's scum 2. No one pushes Moosy --> If he's town I'd expect someone to have jumped on him therefore scum 3. Posts a shit ton --> Probably just nubian with bad opening and mafia afk or otherwise engaged | ||
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On June 13 2015 03:43 WaveofShadow wrote: And yet you did anyway. Well Dear. Why don't you explain how someone can be lynch bait and expected to be jumped on by mafia (if they're town) if said person has posted AND hasn't posted something terrible? | ||
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On June 13 2015 04:14 WaveofShadow wrote: You'd have to explain that yourself since it was the basis of you voting him in the first place. Am I in the fucking twilight zone here? I clearly called out his bad post. So how do you get this idea that I somehow didn't think his opener was a shitty mafia post? | ||
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On June 13 2015 04:28 WaveofShadow wrote: Because as can be seen very clearly from my opening posts towards you, it looks like at first like you were town attempting to bait 'other scum' into voting with on someone you felt was town, that scum should have jumped on. Only later do I see that you call out his bad post while at the same time saying that scum didn't jump on him for the bad post while this is EXACTLY WHAT YOU DID. You literally called yourself scum. Not even close. Try again wubby. There's literally zero reason to expect me to be townreading him at that point. My argument is pretty clear: 1. His opener was an awful post 2. *If* he's town, then mafia would normally be all over that shit 3. He's likely mafia because of both bad post and the fact that no one is jumping all over that shit Yet, you've twisted this into: Moose is town. Mafia should be jumping all over him. Geript is jumping all over him. Geript is mafia. The thing about it is though that I didn't even push that shit hard. Like I didn't make a big case or stink about it when I easily could have. I made like a handful of posts on him which like half of them have been in response to you. Rather I've been pretty succinct on him and pretty meh. I can't even understand how you're approaching the game at all Wave. So esplain where you're at and why you're there. | ||
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On June 13 2015 04:37 Sulfurus wrote: @geript That's good that you no longer scum read Moosy but Bats hasn't made the same realization you have and you townread two of the people voting on him. So what do you think of him? I'd rather lynch you. | ||
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On June 12 2015 08:16 MoosyDoosy wrote: I am just rather overwhelmed by the amount of (cross) analysis occurring right now. ^.^ Although this is my first time around, I can already tell this will be great. Down to business. So @ruXxar, your reasoning for voting for Kickstart is his statement about lying in a game of Mafia? And @Trfel, can you please share why you're suspecting @ruXxar? I would have to agree with ruXxar's point that it is generally annoying when someone answers a question directed at you. Although I don't see why Kickstart went so far as to vote for Oatsmaster right off the bat. Unless he's the Mafia and trying to mislead us. On another note, do we know how many Mafias there are? If there are two Mafias, Oatsmaster and Kickstart may be those two and may have set this up to make everyone confused and make people like you two fight amongst yourselves. Did you look at this post at all? He's commenting about things that don't really matter in a way that he's seemingly had some interesting thought on it. He asks a question that's essentially a statement. He meanders through potentially interesting topics while giving no opinion on anything. Then he plays the dumbtell card. It's a big post that literally offers nothing while commenting on things in a way that confer a formed opinion. It almost can be boiled down to: "I've been thinking about this game, but I won't really comment on it at all. What do you guys think about this random stuff?" I don't see even newer town players do that often. | ||
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On June 13 2015 05:52 MoosyDoosy wrote: Sulfurus looks easiest if you want to make a case. geript might pass but idk. They both have 1 vote so you just need to persuade 2 more. tbh, I'm deciding between either Sulfurus or geript so help me out by making a case. Why don't you filter people and figure out what you think about them? | ||
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On June 13 2015 06:18 batsnacks wrote: I mean I guess plants looks the worst? There's not a lot in the game to work with. Most of the game has been talking about me and the people who did that talking all look pretty good. Did you realize that plants got replaced by scottleet? | ||
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On June 13 2015 06:28 n00bKing wrote: Continue to think posts from ruXxar sound like they came from a Town player. And not because this one has anything to do with me, but because he is willing to fearlessly grill WaveofShadow for more information, when (based on post count, and the game history in his profile) Wave could be one of the most experienced players in this game. When ruXxar's early boldness drew him a couple of votes, he didn't decide to change gears. He's willing to go toe-to-toe with anyone, to get the answers he wants. LOL ... Wave one of the most experienced players. He just posts a bunch on other TL areas. I'd actually consider Damdred and maybe batsnacks as being more experienced currently. | ||
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Besides, we both know that despite both of us having a bunch of experience we're both way better as mafia than as town. As town we both tend to meander more than carry. | ||
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Not really something something I can put my finger on. Feels I guess. Maybe my impression of his meta is off from his actual meta since I don't think I've played a game with him for a bit. @Wubby. It's ok. I still love you. I just found the heuristic used for experience a bit interesting and funny. A bit clever too. Besides, we both know it's like you/me/damdred for most experience I think. I think I have the most games played there. | ||
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noob oats boxer/damdred moose kickstarter at least one of trfel/Rels that leaves us like fake/scott sulfurous rux batsnacks Probably the best people to look at more are sulf/rux | ||
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On June 14 2015 02:31 batsnacks wrote: I don't think stupidity is the primary reason people want to lynch you. Stupidity. Not thinking. Relatively the same thing. | ||
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On June 14 2015 02:53 Damdred wrote: Not really, you are pretty hard to follow. Your reads don't make a ton of sense,the bickering with wave felt weird and without a real purpose. You have some real problems. Why are you voting for sulfur here Variety of reasons. His opener was awful. He asks a bunch of questions without relevant opinions. Doesn't seem confident at all. Like I remember when he was answering Oats and made a comment like, "Well I heard when you're getting scumread it's good to quote someone with more thread pull." Like that's really super pussy and fearful. Especially when the reference he was referring to IIRC he was quoting like a newbie early in the game. Just not really applicable. | ||
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On June 14 2015 03:02 Damdred wrote: Psh me getting your alignment right off the bat should worry you more than me questioning you. Now can you tell me anything about your other scum reads at all? And why do you dislike Scott here Don't dislike him. Just some of his posts didn't feel as good and had hints of when I coached him. Just not a townread not a scumread. | ||
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It's not uncommon for mafia to defend town badly. Especially newer mafia. | ||
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I'd bother to try, but if that's the type of argument that's going to be espoused then I'd rather get lynched and laugh at the mix of stupid that's gone around. | ||
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On June 14 2015 05:38 batsnacks wrote: You don't understand. geript just claimed mafia. Here is geript saying he will sheep Trfel's amazing case on Rels: + Show Spoiler + On June 14 2015 04:54 geript wrote: Actually, I think I'm going to sheep too. Here is sulfurus's bold post defending Rels: + Show Spoiler + On June 14 2015 05:00 Sulfurus wrote: I didn't want to say anything about trfel before because his vote on Bats was protecting me but he is just straight up wrong on Rels. He makes a post here where he says rels made a bad town read on ruXxar even though (IMO) ruXx is one of the towniest players in the game. He also keeps saying that Rels is tunneled on Plant's only post and he basically dismisses the rest of his filter when in fact it's really good and shows a town who is focused on trying to solve the game. Here is me saying sulfurus's post is bold, I ask why mafia would post such a thing: + Show Spoiler + Here geript explains that sometimes mafia like to defend town poorly. geript knows that Rels is town, yet he would sheep Trfel's case on Rels: + Show Spoiler + On June 14 2015 05:08 geript wrote: It's not uncommon for mafia to defend town badly. Especially newer mafia. Here. Let me learn you stupids up good in the english language. Batsnacks question, "Why does mafia post this?" is what is called a rhetorical question. It presupposes the answer (that mafia doesn't post that). My response directly attacks the underlying assumption that mafia doesn't post like that. If I bothered to look, I bet I can find 2 games where I've made similar posts as mafia (as Sulfurous did). His (Sulfurous) post is not a post that is strictly alignment indicative. It can come from town and from mafia. ![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fa/Donkey_J1.jpg/762px-Donkey_J1.jpg) Here's my ass. Kiss it. | ||
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Lynch Rels or Sulf next | ||
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Like I'm literally done playing mafia here. It's fucking stupid. Every time I role mafia, people have no clue how to read me and I wreck face. Every time I role town the stupids think something I've said actually makes me mafia. It gets more fucking ridiculous each and every time. | ||
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On June 23 2015 07:09 WaveofShadow wrote: And yeah anyone who knows oats at all would have read him as town I think. All that contradiction and jumping all over the place and sniping lol TBH it was a really fucking terrible cop claim though. | ||
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On June 23 2015 07:20 ruXxar wrote: At some point you said that you thought there was no vet mafia at all :p Mafia is a game about making the best most informed decision you can. That said, Trfel played exceptionally and wave I just kinda ignore because we're buddies and I enjoy playing with him. Plus, tbh he would've been a very bad lynch on D1. So if you're not going to try to lynch a vet, then it's generally best to assume they're town. It's not about being right or wrong. At any point. The point is to make good decisions. That's why my lunch was so fucking awful. There's zero reason to think I was mafia. And if you considered my play, while not super optimal town play, it's pretty obvious townplay. Especially for me. So town decided to lynch me and learn nothing at all instead of making any good lynch. That's what's so retarded. | ||
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On June 23 2015 07:52 WaveofShadow wrote: Geript are you around later tonight? Maybe a couple of the newbies as well? And maybe onegu? Could do an impromptu podcast-style discussion on my stream if anyone is interested. Say 10 ish est? I'm out of town on my phone but I can get on skype and do it there if you want. Idk how effective it would be because I didn't read super heavy while I was alive and when dead only read some of the last page to clear it from subscriptions. | ||
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On June 23 2015 08:14 batsnacks wrote: The geript lynch wasn't bad, and it was 100% his own fault, though I can understand that geript is salty he got lynched d1 in a newbie game by batsnacks. geript why do you defend yourself harder after the game is over than you did in the game itself? I made one single post about why you are mafia and some of the argument I used was a misunderstanding of your words, and that was enough to get you lynched. <3 you though hope you don't stay mad forver. You're a fucking idiot. Like not even joking I'm policy lynching/shooting you from now on because you're literally only helpful to mafia. There wasn't a misunderstanding of my words. Stop lying. You flat out argued that I slipped that Sulf was maf and Ruxxar or whoever was town. You did that when Wave made an exceptionally similar post. There's not a misunderstanding there. There's just you pushing me for dumbass reasons and people buying dumbass reasons. Also, I'm not defending myself. I'm pointing out how fucking stupid the D1 lynch was. Not even joking, the only worse lynch that I can think of off the top of my head was in the old newbie games where town lynched an unCC'd medic. Why should I defend myself from an argument that literally only idiots would listen to? There's no point. Because if people are buying it, then there's no way I can save myself because I'm surrounded by idiots. So seriously dude. Fuck you. Like I thought that you were a somewhat decent player before; clearly I was exceptionally wrong. | ||
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On June 23 2015 08:19 batsnacks wrote: Seriously though, geript never gets lynched if he explains calmly and collectedly "no batsnacks, there's been a misunderstanding and this is why" rather than posting donkey pics and shitting himself. Did you read what the fuck I even said? I even pointed out in said donkey post that you were a fucking retard. I pointed out exactly how you were a fucking retard. You didn't see it then. If you had even thought over only that post and that post alone, it was fucking obvious that I was town. So yah dude. Stuff your shit back up your ass where it belongs. | ||
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On June 23 2015 08:32 batsnacks wrote: If the reasons were as dumbass as you claim then it shouldn't have been a problem not getting lynched. The "slip" wasn't the only reason people were voting you. This post would have saved you btw: Why you chose to post this now and not when it would have mattered... I'm not sure. I can guess why. I would guess it's because you wanted to be lynched for "dumbass" reasons so that you can validate yourself. In a newbie game. That post only works after my flip dumbass. It literally doesn't EVER work before my flip. Ask Rayn. I'm willing to do pretty much anything I would do as town as mafia. And the BS about me being voted for before that. Sure, Wave voted for me, then moved off. Oats the scumhunter extraordinaire who was afk was on me and Rels who I kinda thought was town and kinda thought was scum (good job Trfel) but had no influence was on me. 2 votes does not get me lynched. Get your shit straight. The reason why the surge went onto me was because of your fucking retarded line of thinking. You vote for me. Mafia votes for me using your logic. Damdred votes for me using your logic. Moosy votes for me using your logic. Get your shit straight bitch and shove it back up your ass. Not only are you super wrong again, you're literally only showing how fucking retarded the point you're trying to make is. I could even point out post by post how they agree with you then go vote. So ya bitch. Get the fuck out of here with that shit. | ||
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On June 23 2015 08:36 ruXxar wrote: I actually think batsnacks is right. That post would've gone a long way to convince us. Sorry bud. From experience I can tell you it doesn't. When I make that post, it's clear and obvious in hindsight considering the flip. When I make that post during the game, the response becomes "But if you're a good mafia player then you can do that as mafia too" or "But you've set yourself up to mimic your townplay" or some other stupid thing. To go back further, there were people (many people) who were on the side of the Wave vs Me argument over Moosy early on. But what I pointed out about Wave is actually pretty alignment indicative and I should've pushed it harder. | ||
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On June 23 2015 08:44 rsoultin wrote: o.0 dude calm down game is over lol i act this way too when people scumread me for bad reasons but it's part of why you get lynched...you're so pissed and nasty about it that people get pissed and don't read your posts for content to actually reconsider their reasoning or reads, yeah? like when this starts to be a pattern it can't just be everyone else. you understand that, right? d1 lynch multiple games in a row, something is wrong with how you approach things Sorry rso. I'm not going to try and argue with stupid in game. There's literally no point. Could I be nicer and more helpful and write big long posts that take a couple of hours to put together that no one reads and listens to so that I can be super town read? Sure. Is it worth the effort? Not at all. I will not take responsibility for other people following fucking retarded reads. Especially when there's a long history of it. | ||
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On June 23 2015 09:06 Oatsmaster wrote: Dude before the reaction I was like 50/50, after the reaction it was 100% that he's mafia. Town don't react that way to a fake check on them. Some town do Oats. Not many. But I could see Wave being town on that reaction and I've played with him more than most. | ||
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On June 23 2015 09:24 Oatsmaster wrote: Actually I think the main mistake town made this game, including me, was being way too trigger happy at "bad" posts because as it turns out, only one mafia had bad posts but like almost all the town did. Like even in lylo I got caught up with rels, maybe if I actually went and looked at what trfel said when he called wave town, I could've made a better read. Cause that's totally the connection. This is actually a really good point. And it's something that you kinda just have to learn. For example, look at how I attacked Moosy early on. His opener was really really bad. Like really, really bad. You still have to take that in context of his whole filter. Early on, he's really fucking scummy. But around mid D1 he was super towny. I probably should explain that read but I'm feeling lazy. | ||
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