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On June 17 2015 06:16 Kickstart wrote:
The sulf not voting me is quite strange but I can see mafia justification for it. Especially since I'm set to be lynched without his vote at the moment.
I don't see mafia nor town justification, it's just weird.
The part about you getting lynched without your vote is not true. 3 people has not voted yet, and in this system of vote, if he goes to 4 votes before you do, even if you get up to 4 votes, he s going to be the lynch.
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On June 17 2015 06:19 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 06:18 MoosyDoosy wrote:On June 17 2015 06:17 batsnacks wrote:
Dude wtf ruxxar giving me cold feet with his feels. What do you mean by this? It means I'm about to vote sulfur and hate myself for it. Unless anyone but me wants to lynch scott which doesn't seem to be the case.
I'll lynch scott over anyone but KS.
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OK guys please read carefully the big post of Kickstart. It's bad. His only points of analysis are:
1 - bunch of quotes of fluff posts from filters
2 - their votes are without explanations or with bad explanations
Point 1 is not mafia indicative.
Point 2 are you kidding Kickstart ? That's what you did all game.
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OK if even Trfel votes Sulfu, I suppose KS is not going to be the lynch today.
I still think Sulfu is town. He wouldn't have hard defended me if he was mafia last day.
I still think KS is mafia. One big post one hour before the deadline is not enough to make me change my mind. Especially since there is no summary of any cases, it's a lot of words to say very few reasons. Good reasons, but very few for the size of the posts.
I'll just hope I'm wrong.
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On June 17 2015 06:37 Kickstart wrote:
Lol. rels you are so ridiculous. My quotes from them illustrates my points about them. If you think my points on them are bullshit bring one up specifically, I cant respond to you if you just say "your entire huge post is bullshit, all of it. As for point 2, I have pushed both ruxxar and sulf this game. My only vote that has been without good explanation was my vote on you. Now I can see the OMGUS from you onto me for me coming back from being afk and just joining the wagon on you because that was thread sentiment, but to say that none of my votes have been with no explanations is not true when they all have save for that one instance on you. Take a step back from your OMGUS tunnel on me and realize that me coming back from being afk and going with thread sentiment isn't as scummy as you want it to be.
That may be true and I'll see that tomorrow. But I still think your case is awful as it's a lot of words without a summary. It's hard to see the clear points.
The only clear points I saw on both Sulfu and Oats was that their votes was opportunistic.
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On June 17 2015 06:42 Kickstart wrote:
Well come on. I mean I don't want to make excuses for myself when I have already said it over and over again, but I was fucking afk for eod1 and all of the night1 and into day2 and you expect me to come out with a million points against people when ive missed that much? That is just not reasonable to expect from me. And while I dont have a million points against my scum reads, I do have points that I expanded upon to show what I mean, and I beleive they are good points as to why they could be scum. I gave the reads I could give given how I've played, I apologize that I was afk and probably can't provide as good as a read as if I were here the whole time, but I wasn't here, so expecting that of me is not reasonable.
Can you give me a quick summary on each of your scum then please. Don't worry about justifications, they are in your big post. Just the points.
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On June 17 2015 06:47 batsnacks wrote:
Shenanies onto scott?
hahaha now that would be funny (=
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scott's vote didn't matter I think.
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Dunno why you are saying he ninja'd though. What was weird was that he didn't vote KS to begin with. Him voting KS is logical.
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God those minutes sure are long.
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Wow. Feel bad for townreading him so hard. At the same time happy to have lynched mafia (= no thanks to me that's for sure.
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Alright time to sleep, take care everyone!
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I guess you are (= I mean, it's always possible that you bus'd your partner ... but I agree with what you said:
On June 17 2015 09:25 Kickstart wrote:
@Oats
Again this idea you have that me and sulf are somehow scum buddies just doesnt make sense. We were at each other from minute one at the start of the game and I have had him as my top scum read since the beginning of the game and he has pushed to have me lynched likewise. I mean I guess it is POSSIBLE but definitely not the most likely explanation.
So you're town for me.
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Redid my post with the missing quote:
On June 17 2015 07:07 Kickstart wrote:
Am i confirmed town now friends?
I guess you are (= I mean, it's always possible that you bus'd your partner ... but I agree with what you said:
On June 17 2015 09:25 Kickstart wrote:
@Oats
Again this idea you have that me and sulf are somehow scum buddies just doesnt make sense. We were at each other from minute one at the start of the game and I have had him as my top scum read since the beginning of the game and he has pushed to have me lynched likewise. I mean I guess it is POSSIBLE but definitely not the most likely explanation.
So you're town for me.
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On June 17 2015 08:01 MoosyDoosy wrote:The critical point for anyone wondering. Show nested quote +On June 13 2015 10:30 Fecalfeast wrote:Oh fish ul Votecount Oatsmaster (0): KickstartruXxar (0): TrfelKickstart (0): SulfurusSulfurus (4): Kickstart, geript, batsnacks, WaveOfShadow Batsnacks (5): n00bKing, ruXxar, Oatsmaster, sulfurus, Rels scott113133373737131731371313713137 (0): RelsGeript (0): WaveofShadowRels (0): batsnacksNot Voting (4):MoosyDoosy Damdred scott11331373737373771317371373 Trfel Currently Batsnacks is set to be lynched with 5 votes!
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Day ends in Show nested quote +On June 13 2015 20:33 Onegu wrote:Oh fish ul Votecount Oatsmaster (0): KickstartruXxar (0): TrfelKickstart (0): SulfurusSulfurus (5): Kickstart, geript, batsnacks, WaveOfShadow, scott11331373737373771317371373 Batsnacks (5): n00bKing, ruXxar, Oatsmaster, sulfurus, Rels, Trfel scott113133373737131731371313713137 (0): RelsGeript (0): WaveofShadowRels (0): batsnacksNot Voting (3):MoosyDoosy Damdred Rels Currently Batsnacks is set to be lynched with 5 votes!
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Day ends in
Woaw you're super right. Plus I liked his case on Oats and he answered well to my case. So I suppose he's town too.
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So. I think the following people are town:
WOS
Trfel
Kickstart
scott
I'll also add moosy for the moment, as I think he was suspicious of Sulfu since the beginning of the game. I need to check this one.
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So by POE 2 mafia must be here:
ruxxar
Oats
Damdred
batsnacks
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I also had a thought about batsnacks while sleeping. Two days in a row, he was pretty suspicious of Sulfu, but tried to deflect the lynch from him at EOD.
The first day he succeded with a geript case:
+ Show Spoiler +On June 14 2015 05:38 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2015 05:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:On June 14 2015 05:32 batsnacks wrote:
Bat Traps™ mafia traps. The highest quality traps for your scum hunting needs. We'll see how right we are after Sulfurus, Rels, and getrip. You don't understand. geript just claimed mafia. Here is geript saying he will sheep Trfel's amazing case on Rels: + Show Spoiler +On June 14 2015 04:54 geript wrote:
Actually, I think I'm going to sheep too. Here is sulfurus's bold post defending Rels: + Show Spoiler +On June 14 2015 05:00 Sulfurus wrote:I didn't want to say anything about trfel before because his vote on Bats was protecting me but he is just straight up wrong on Rels. He makes a post here where he says rels made a bad town read on ruXxar even though (IMO) ruXx is one of the towniest players in the game. He also keeps saying that Rels is tunneled on Plant's only post and he basically dismisses the rest of his filter when in fact it's really good and shows a town who is focused on trying to solve the game. Here is me saying sulfurus's post is bold, I ask why mafia would post such a thing: + Show Spoiler +On June 14 2015 05:04 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2015 05:00 Sulfurus wrote:I didn't want to say anything about trfel before because his vote on Bats was protecting me but he is just straight up wrong on Rels. He makes a post here where he says rels made a bad town read on ruXxar even though (IMO) ruXx is one of the towniest players in the game. He also keeps saying that Rels is tunneled on Plant's only post and he basically dismisses the rest of his filter when in fact it's really good and shows a town who is focused on trying to solve the game. This is bold. Why does mafia post this? Here geript explains that sometimes mafia like to defend town poorly. geript knows that Rels is town, yet he would sheep Trfel's case on Rels: + Show Spoiler +On June 14 2015 05:08 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2015 05:04 batsnacks wrote:On June 14 2015 05:00 Sulfurus wrote:I didn't want to say anything about trfel before because his vote on Bats was protecting me but he is just straight up wrong on Rels. He makes a post here where he says rels made a bad town read on ruXxar even though (IMO) ruXx is one of the towniest players in the game. He also keeps saying that Rels is tunneled on Plant's only post and he basically dismisses the rest of his filter when in fact it's really good and shows a town who is focused on trying to solve the game. This is bold. Why does mafia post this? It's not uncommon for mafia to defend town badly. Especially newer mafia.
The second day he proposed to switch to scott. Of course he said it jokingly, so we can't know if it's a joke or a disguised attempt. But the fact is that he repeated it several times in the last hour of the day:
On June 17 2015 06:19 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 06:18 MoosyDoosy wrote:On June 17 2015 06:17 batsnacks wrote:
Dude wtf ruxxar giving me cold feet with his feels. What do you mean by this? It means I'm about to vote sulfur and hate myself for it. Unless anyone but me wants to lynch scott which doesn't seem to be the case.
On June 17 2015 06:27 batsnacks wrote:
I'm like 75% sure scott is mafia and that's a really high number.
On June 17 2015 06:47 batsnacks wrote:
Shenanies onto scott?
On June 17 2015 06:49 batsnacks wrote:
I really, really want to vote scott.
On June 17 2015 07:17 batsnacks wrote:
Glad we didn't lynch scott, he's probably just a lowly goon.
I admit the last one made me laugh. (=
That's not a case, just an observation for future days.
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I have some work to do now so I'll be afk the next few hours. First thing on my TODO list when I come back is reading through Sulfurus' filter.
Take care everyone (=
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It can be summarized in three points I think (scott correct me if I'm wrong):
On June 17 2015 05:25 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 05:18 scott31337 wrote:Oatsmaster could be mafia Says he's VT in the first post (which is bad anyway, narrows down the blues) and then defends himself about his VT claim saying "Have you seen it done before?" (BTW, Onegu has done it before in XXX I believe) + Show Spoiler +On June 12 2015 10:26 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2015 07:18 Kickstart wrote:
Hi friends.
A friendly PSA: I don't like lurkers or liers or people who answer questions directed at other people.
aaaaaaaaaaaaand I don't like Oats for now! (kidding, mostly)
##Vote: Oatsmaster
why would you do this. Show nested quote +On June 12 2015 08:42 batsnacks wrote:I'm going to make a quick and easy how to play town guide: - don't claim your role
- find exactly 1 person who you think is mafia
- say why this 1 person is mafia
- do not form reads based on unflipped associations e.g. player X AND player Y could be mafia together because Z.
1. Im vt. 2. Bats is mafia. 3. Chezinu rule. ##vote Bats On June 13 2015 21:58 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2015 21:55 batsnacks wrote:On June 13 2015 21:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
But you dont want to convince me or Trfel?
Ok bats, quote 5 posts you think will help town lynch mafia.
So that does not include fluff and defensive posts.
I am actively trying to convince you and would be delighted if Trfel joined in. Trfel at the very least is scuming me for recent things. You, noob, and rux just didn't like my opening. Im sure you read the most recent Ver game where he caught at least one mafia because of a bad opening post. Tell me, why did you vote for the vt claim? You think that mafia somehow claims vt in one of the first few posts? Have you see that happen before? Switches his read on Bats fairly easily, doesn't mention the reason for switching to geript - bails + Show Spoiler +On June 14 2015 01:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
Im going to sleep.
Lynch geript.
Wants to go after Moosy now, even though he only mentions a joke post about him and nothing else + Show Spoiler +On June 14 2015 09:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
Let's get moosy tmr On June 13 2015 01:12 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2015 01:10 MoosyDoosy wrote:On June 13 2015 01:08 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 13 2015 01:05 batsnacks wrote:On June 13 2015 01:03 MoosyDoosy wrote:On June 13 2015 01:01 batsnacks wrote:On June 13 2015 00:57 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 13 2015 00:49 batsnacks wrote:On June 13 2015 00:39 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 12 2015 22:54 batsnacks wrote:
I think I'm going to sheep geript now he was making sense about moose.
##unvote
##vote moosygoosy So you're voting along with scum? Interesting. I thought what he said was pretty reasonable. If I were mafia I would have gone after moose's post. So now we base reads on what mafia was supposed to do and didnt? Dont like that at all. Dont like that you peaced out and dont care about the game either. You came back here and did nothing but defend yourself. You didnt scumhunt, you didnt advance the thread. Geript too btw. I kinda think noob is town because he just keeps on giving advice even after people tell him to stop. I don't feel like there's anything I need to defend against. But yeah I do like the idea of basing reads off of what mafia should and shouldn't do. That's why I'm voting moosegoose. And what exactly did I do to show I'm Mafia? I admit my first post was dumb of me but that was because I'm generally more of a passive poster. Besides, if you want to go along with basing reads off of what Mafia should and shouldn't do, shouldn't YOU be thinking of geript right now? He makes a post about how Mafia should act, leaves the thread after being accused of Mafia, and then does nothing to defend himself. You didn't do anything. It's what your scum mates did, or rather didn't do (push you). LOL So you're not even assuming the same thing Geript apparently did? Geript at least seemed to assume Moosy was town shitposting at first which would make scum jump on for an easy mislynch, but you think he's scum and ALSO think scum would bus him right off the bat? That's fucking horrible. Dude, wtf would the Mafias do that for. Shouldn't they try and help each other? LOL this post. Oh man. I would feel so silly if moose is mafia. Throws out lynching me with no explanation - I and others ask about it but never replies - what happened to Moosy? + Show Spoiler +On June 14 2015 09:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
I quite like lynching Scot. Meta reason for calling Damdred scum - still doesn't explain the reasoning on me + Show Spoiler +On June 14 2015 15:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
Damdred didn't call me town, he's scum.
Also that completely pointless list post that has more townreads than scum reads.
Sulph / damdred mafia.
Scott also maybe. Goes back to Damdred without reason except for the above? + Show Spoiler +On June 16 2015 08:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
I really dont like this kickstart lynch, its coming up super fast and everyone is supporting it.
What happened to lynching ruxxar? I thought that was pretty good.
or damdred.
Oats asks a lot of questions without followup Follows the bandwagon of the thread until KS wants to be lynched Shit reasons for wanting to lynch me and Damdred Unsure what direction he wants to go if he's town Oats could be mafia. OK so your case basically is: 1. Oats is not commiting to reads or pushes.. 2. Oats talks a lot but doesn't analyse anything. 3. Oats switched without giving reasons. Mm. I would not lynched over kickstart. But I would lynched over ruxxar.
The first two points are definitely true and describes you as someone active but not useful.
I'm not sure the third point is that true. I think it's just the consequence of you not describing your thought process at all time.
Anyway, I don't think scott's case makes you 100% mafia, but it brings good points.
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