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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 23 2015 05:31 GMT
#2720
Wow this is over!

I want to thank my coach ritoki for the many many hours he helped me try to make sense of everything. Thanks coach will be rooting for you every time now!

Now apparently there was a podcast on fucking how wos can be mafia. I hope it's recorded cause I wanna hear that

Finally thanks onegu and ff for hosting
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 23 2015 05:56 GMT
#2722
Sure!

Ofc if Im mafia you may die N1

(=
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 23 2015 06:00 GMT
#2724
On June 23 2015 14:58 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2015 14:56 Rels wrote:
Sure!

Ofc if Im mafia you may die N1

(=
Hahaha, I haven't been night killed in months XD

Let's fix this

very soon
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 23 2015 06:06 GMT
#2725
LOL ritoki pointed to things I posted on my coach QT D3. I feel so dumb not following it ...


Wow.
I reread your tips and you adviced me to see who voted Sulfu day 2 but not day 1.
This fucking list is fucking short:
Damdred, who was early voting him.


And fucking Trfel.
Fucking "so logical" Trfel.
Fucking "I made a case on anyone scummy but Sulfu" Trfel.
Fucking "I switch to Sulfu when it looks like he's gonna be the lynch" Trfel.
Fucking "I didn't do anything day 3 except when scott answered to my case" Trfel.

Fucking fuck I can't believe it.


OK that's actually super easy. If Trfel is mafia, scott is town. So we mislynched him, and we have two chances to find Trfel partner.
He's gonna keep me alive 'cause I'm sucking his dick each time I talk about him, and he thinks I'll vote with him no matter what at 3-men LYLO.
So. If I'm ever with him at 3-men LYLO, I'll fucking lynch him.


Now. If Trfel is mafia, I have nooo idea who is his partner.

He made cases on ruxxar, batsnacks, Kickstart, scott.
He expressed doubts over Damdred votes.
He expressed suspicions over Oats.
And hop, that's everyone except WOS. But I'm sure WOS is town.

Actually. He expressed doubts over Damdred votes, but in his latest post he's soft defending him.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 23 2015 06:07 GMT
#2726
But WOS was too good to catch for me. Hope the twitch recording has some infos on how we should have catch him!
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 23 2015 06:58 GMT
#2729
Yeah wp to you too! Maybe next time I won't put the mafia team on my town list =D
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 23 2015 07:05 GMT
#2730
Really reading WOS filter, I want someone to point me where are the scum tells.

On June 22 2015 21:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2015 19:45 ruXxar wrote:
On June 21 2015 13:37 WaveofShadow wrote:
Scum between Oats/Trfel/Ruxxar
ezpz.
66% chance boyysssss


I want to hear wave answer both of these questions:

#1: Explain why Trfel could be mafia.
#2: Explain why I could be mafia.



I'm going to answer this question pretty simply here.

Look at what Rels and Kickstart have been doing.
Do either of those players look like scum to you fighting off a townie?
That is absolutely a town on town fight right there. I've seen a fucking thousand of them.

Now look at the people who don't give a shit that it's happening as it goes on.

Trfel/you/Oats. Although I suppose Trfel went to bed before it started? so meh.
I highly doubt Trfel sits down and makes an huge entire fucking case for Oats being scum/me being town as scum because that makes no goddamn sense to do when all he has to do is vote me. You're the one who is still asking questions and looking like you're trying to find a reason to switch one way or the other. Of the two of you? I think you're more likely scum here. That being said I've seen some dumb shit in my time---I could be wrong on Trfel and he could be pulling some long-ass play to ensure that he still looks good and can switch/ride the tide of a voteswap at the end of the day easy. Actually come to think of it the same could be said for almost anyone if they assume that this is where the votes are most likely to be at the end of the day---if Oats absolutely looks like he is going down any scummer is going to be afraid to be the vote of dissent which is going to make our job harder going forward.

The thing is, in most cases if I'm about to die I give reads on absolutely everyone I possible can so you guys have something to go on once I'm dead, but in this case that shit doesn't matter because everything ends once I die.

I'm going to do everything I can today to make sure Oats is the lynch and we have the time to sit back and figure out who the final scum is.


The only post that made me doubt is this one. Like WOS thinks KS and me are town, and respond no problem to the guy he's SURE 100% is mafia. That's when I started to have the feeling WOS + Trfel was real.

But the rest of the posts is just super townie. And Oats motherfucking attacked his "greencheck". So I backed off.

So where are the scumtells ? I'm starting the podcast thing.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 23 2015 07:06 GMT
#2731
Fuck. Twitch blocked at my work )= )=
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 23 2015 07:18 GMT
#2733
On June 23 2015 16:12 Onegu wrote:
Hope you guys enjoy the discussion

Thanks to wave for recording, and everyone who participated

TY for hosting when it looked like the would be no newbie game <3
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 23 2015 08:48 GMT
#2737
On June 23 2015 17:41 ruXxar wrote:
Wave said that the his biggest scum tell is too much information.
Being so absolutely ecru an that someone is town.

Like how he in day 4 so easily could call eels and kick town.
He's never that certain as town.

Another thing to look for is people that are too perfect.
A mafia has a filter to everything the day, so their statements on General will look a lot more polished.
Town on the other hand, doesn't really care what they look like so much, so you will find more irregularities in their posting, a more carefree nature.

Fuck no way I would have caught that even with more time. But I see now how someone else could have caught him. Thanks.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 23 2015 08:49 GMT
#2738
On June 23 2015 17:44 ruXxar wrote:
Another thing that we missed was the no lynch.
We should've absolutely no lynched.
It always the best option in a Mylo situation.
You reduce the amount if town, so that a bigger percentage of the group is mafia.
This means that when you lunch next day, you have a bigger chance of lynching mafia.

Yeah we should have in retrospect.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 23 2015 13:20 GMT
#2747
On June 23 2015 22:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yes you are right Wave.

The problem however becomes when the game plays out like it usually does if there is going to be a no-lynch in MYLO. Like what you and Trfel did in this game. Both of you posted some analysis on the last day but neither of you reached into any hard conclusions (tbf neither did the townies). The final conclsuion for ALL the players were "Oats is mafia, who cares about the other mafia at this point". Regardless of if you would correctly lynch Oats (or any other player in any other situation) or no-lynch here, you really gain nothing, just because you lynched the obvious mafia and noone ever cared about the OTHER mafia (which in this case - in this game, should be the MAIN point of discussion on D4).

Like if everyone is dead set on Oats being mafia here why talk about him? Just ignore him and try to find the other mafia, otherwise you are just wasting the day. When i read the final day i got the impression RuXx, kickstart and Rels were actually trying to figure out the game as a whole. Trfel posted analysis but didn't really look like he was interested in ACTUALLY solving the game rather than just looking good. Wave and Oats were obviously just calling each other mafia and finding reasons why the other one is mafia - which is reasonable.

My interpretation is in the end mafia just shot down town's attempts to actually talk about anything relevant and kept the game onto "let's lynch Oats and figure the game out later". And they did it well.

Yeah exactly. We as town should have pushed hard on WOS, who was content on lyncing Oats, towreading KS Trfel and me, and discussing very calmly with ruxxar. I was fooled the whole game by WOS so no regret over the past days; but I know we, as town, could have played a lot better that last day.

Like I should have pushed this post way harder:
On June 23 2015 03:08 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2015 03:06 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 23 2015 02:32 Rels wrote:
OK WOS didn't answer my question immediately. Whatever his excuse is, negative point it is.

This really annoys me for the record.
Like if you want to lynch me and think Oats is actually the cop, fine, but to give out arbitrary 'negative points' AFTER you're already voting me because I'm not in front of my computer right when you want me to be is horseshit.

Again as I've mentioned before, by the PoE I've done today so far I'd guess last scum to be Ruxxar but that's not complete. My best course of action today in order to ensure this game continues is to make sure as many people as possible are on Oats to minimize the ability for last second shenanigans or switching, so I'll concern myself with that when he flips red.

I find that super weird. You know for a FACT that Oats is mafia. You've known for more then 24 hours. But you just did nothing really, when you could be hunting scum. You are the only one that can do it with certitude.

You seem too ... static when even if Oats is scum, we still have another MYLO tomorrow.

I'm like super angry at myself for that last day. Not the rest of the game as my reads were super shitty. But that last day we could have won! But oh well, I learned sooo much too this game. Next one is gonna be better (=
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