Newbie Student Mafia XI - Page 17

On June 23 2015 14:58 Trfel wrote:
Hahaha, I haven't been night killed in months XD

Wow.
I reread your tips and you adviced me to see who voted Sulfu day 2 but not day 1.
This fucking list is fucking short:
Damdred, who was early voting him.


And fucking Trfel.
Fucking "so logical" Trfel.
Fucking "I made a case on anyone scummy but Sulfu" Trfel.
Fucking "I switch to Sulfu when it looks like he's gonna be the lynch" Trfel.
Fucking "I didn't do anything day 3 except when scott answered to my case" Trfel.

Fucking fuck I can't believe it.


OK that's actually super easy. If Trfel is mafia, scott is town. So we mislynched him, and we have two chances to find Trfel partner.
He's gonna keep me alive 'cause I'm sucking his dick each time I talk about him, and he thinks I'll vote with him no matter what at 3-men LYLO.
So. If I'm ever with him at 3-men LYLO, I'll fucking lynch him.

Now. If Trfel is mafia, I have nooo idea who is his partner.

He made cases on ruxxar, batsnacks, Kickstart, scott.
He expressed doubts over Damdred votes.
He expressed suspicions over Oats.
And hop, that's everyone except WOS. But I'm sure WOS is town.

Actually. He expressed doubts over Damdred votes, but in his latest post he's soft defending him.

On June 22 2015 21:09 WaveofShadow wrote:

I'm going to answer this question pretty simply here.

Look at what Rels and Kickstart have been doing.
Do either of those players look like scum to you fighting off a townie?
That is absolutely a town on town fight right there. I've seen a fucking thousand of them.

Now look at the people who don't give a shit that it's happening as it goes on.

Trfel/you/Oats. Although I suppose Trfel went to bed before it started? so meh.
I highly doubt Trfel sits down and makes an huge entire fucking case for Oats being scum/me being town as scum because that makes no goddamn sense to do when all he has to do is vote me. You're the one who is still asking questions and looking like you're trying to find a reason to switch one way or the other. Of the two of you? I think you're more likely scum here. That being said I've seen some dumb shit in my time---I could be wrong on Trfel and he could be pulling some long-ass play to ensure that he still looks good and can switch/ride the tide of a voteswap at the end of the day easy. Actually come to think of it the same could be said for almost anyone if they assume that this is where the votes are most likely to be at the end of the day---if Oats absolutely looks like he is going down any scummer is going to be afraid to be the vote of dissent which is going to make our job harder going forward.

The thing is, in most cases if I'm about to die I give reads on absolutely everyone I possible can so you guys have something to go on once I'm dead, but in this case that shit doesn't matter because everything ends once I die.

I'm going to do everything I can today to make sure Oats is the lynch and we have the time to sit back and figure out who the final scum is.

On June 23 2015 16:12 Onegu wrote:
Hope you guys enjoy the discussion

Thanks to wave for recording, and everyone who participated

On June 23 2015 17:41 ruXxar wrote:
Wave said that the his biggest scum tell is too much information.
Being so absolutely ecru an that someone is town.

Like how he in day 4 so easily could call eels and kick town.
He's never that certain as town.

Another thing to look for is people that are too perfect.
A mafia has a filter to everything the day, so their statements on General will look a lot more polished.
Town on the other hand, doesn't really care what they look like so much, so you will find more irregularities in their posting, a more carefree nature.

On June 23 2015 17:44 ruXxar wrote:
Another thing that we missed was the no lynch.
We should've absolutely no lynched.
It always the best option in a Mylo situation.
You reduce the amount if town, so that a bigger percentage of the group is mafia.
This means that when you lunch next day, you have a bigger chance of lynching mafia.

On June 23 2015 22:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yes you are right Wave.

The problem however becomes when the game plays out like it usually does if there is going to be a no-lynch in MYLO. Like what you and Trfel did in this game. Both of you posted some analysis on the last day but neither of you reached into any hard conclusions (tbf neither did the townies). The final conclsuion for ALL the players were "Oats is mafia, who cares about the other mafia at this point". Regardless of if you would correctly lynch Oats (or any other player in any other situation) or no-lynch here, you really gain nothing, just because you lynched the obvious mafia and noone ever cared about the OTHER mafia (which in this case - in this game, should be the MAIN point of discussion on D4).

Like if everyone is dead set on Oats being mafia here why talk about him? Just ignore him and try to find the other mafia, otherwise you are just wasting the day. When i read the final day i got the impression RuXx, kickstart and Rels were actually trying to figure out the game as a whole. Trfel posted analysis but didn't really look like he was interested in ACTUALLY solving the game rather than just looking good. Wave and Oats were obviously just calling each other mafia and finding reasons why the other one is mafia - which is reasonable.

My interpretation is in the end mafia just shot down town's attempts to actually talk about anything relevant and kept the game onto "let's lynch Oats and figure the game out later". And they did it well.

On June 23 2015 03:08 Rels wrote:

I find that super weird. You know for a FACT that Oats is mafia. You've known for more then 24 hours. But you just did nothing really, when you could be hunting scum. You are the only one that can do it with certitude.

You seem too ... static when even if Oats is scum, we still have another MYLO tomorrow.