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batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 19 2015 15:38 GMT
#2077
It's... a shovel?
a spade?
a tool?
ummm...
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 19 2015 19:11 GMT
#2122
Damdred I solved the game and figured out you and Scott were the last mafia. gg
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 19 2015 20:00 GMT
#2129
On June 20 2015 04:30 Damdred wrote:
It doesn't make oats town imo, its just a classic distancing technique a good bit of scum will use.

Anyway you just acting dumb now bats


It's possible I'm wrong. Disagree that I'm being dumb. I'm not even kynching you today you have 72 whole hours.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 19 2015 20:13 GMT
#2131
I'll quote some stuff for you when I get home would like your input regardless
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 19 2015 20:45 GMT
#2133
On June 20 2015 05:15 Damdred wrote:
Kk sounds good anyway tonight/tommorow I should be able to do a good bit of work


here's the progress I made in more or less chronological order:

  • sulfur's first post was scum reading and voting kickstart. Good knowing he's town. Also good knowing that we were lynching between town and mafia yesterday.

  • Sulfur spends more time d1 townreading ruxx than he does doing anything else. The only think that comes close is pushing my lynch. This could mean that ruxxar is town.

  • Ruxxar voted me for most of d1, sulfurus is probably encouraging ruxxar's vote by townreading him. I don't know if this feels like two mafias.

  • Thinking about it more, ruxxar is probably town and probably wound up on so many wagons because he is over thinking his first game. He probably discredited my geript read because he saw n00b do it first and thought it would be okay for him to do it. I think all of his scummy actions can be explained in a way that makes sense for town.

  • Scott does not make an appearance in sulfur's filter until 10 minutes before sulfur is about to be lynched. I am starting to like the possibility of sulfur attempting to wifom Scott/oats. Sulfur's read on Damdred is also suspicious.

  • Sulfur's strategy d1 is getting on my wagon asap and townreading the other people who voted and stayed on my wagon. Sulfur is "rewarding" n00b and ruxxar with town reads because they are pushing an agenda that benefits him. Sulfur does not need to reward his scum mates to get them to push his agenda, they do it for free.

  • On June 16 2015 15:32 Sulfurus wrote:
    K I just realized that Oats is scummy.

    I looked through his filter and minus the fluff it's just him asking questions (interspersed with attempts to discredit towny posts)

    Now I'm sure n00b would be quick to remind me that asking questions is actually towny as it provides valuable scum hunting information But even if Oats has gotten anything from his posts he hasn't actually provided any of it to the thread in fact it's likely that his questions are helping mafia more then town.

    ##Vote: Oatsmaster


    Look where sulfur says oats is discrediting n00b and Rels townie posts. Sulfur is defending their posts from the big bad bully oats. Newer mafia players do this a lot as scum; they defend townies from aggressive/abrasive town players and scum read them because they believe that the abrasive townie's attitude will make them easier to mislynch. They believe they are earning town points from saving other townie's from the bully. This also implies that Rels is town.

  • sulfur hard defended Rels and rux from trfel d1. This is very likely a case of sulfur defending town from town, which he also did with oats and Rels/n00b. If Trfel is mafia sulfur is not going to hard defend two townies from him.

  • so townies are very likely to be:
    Batsnacks
    Oats
    Ruxxar
    Rels
    Kickstart
    trfel

    Mafia is:
    Scott
    Damdred

  • which leaves wave. if scott or damdred is not mafia, then it is wave. wave has lots of stuff that makes him look better than scott and damdred though, so this I think this is unlikely.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 19 2015 20:59 GMT
#2134
it's not really clear but I'm townreading oats for the bullet point with sulfur's quote about him.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 19 2015 21:39 GMT
#2138
On June 20 2015 06:35 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 06:27 ruXxar wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
I do want to hear your meta on Damdred that you mentioned.


I second this.

@BS You still haven't explained that.


Completely disregarding meta, scott/damdred are still my votes. It seems unnecessary. And I actually did explain it once this game earlier on.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 19 2015 21:45 GMT
#2140
On June 20 2015 06:43 Rels wrote:
Alright I feel you, lost all motivation doing a proper scott case when he's going to be lynched anyway.


Damdred you buddy/agree/placate/sheep me way more when you're mafia than when you're town. When you're town you are usually suspicious of me at every point in the game and it is usually a constant struggle for me to keep you not-suspicious.


Yeah. If damdred is mafia it's for buddying me and contributing as little as possible.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 19 2015 21:55 GMT
#2142
It's not super important anyway, I wouldn't be scum reading damdred if that was the only reason I had, that's more of just an interesting observation. Damdred knows I'm easily buddied as town and has used it to his advantage before as mafia. He also knows I have a pretty big range of metas so he is usually constantly suspicious of me as town.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 19 2015 22:32 GMT
#2146
k somehow I have to be brave and convince everyone to lynch damdred and wave.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 19 2015 22:46 GMT
#2148
damdred and wave please keep me alive. I'm sure town will be ultra suspicious of me after geript and scott.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 20 2015 00:30 GMT
#2154
I pasted 100% of my thought process regarding my POE. I even did a kind thing and cut and pasted it all into one convenient post with bullet points.

Rather than "hey bats do you have anything else?" or "bats your POE sucks please completely change all of your opinions and perspectives because I don't like them" or "bats is unreachable, I will just ignore him"

why not respond to anything I said with reason?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 20 2015 00:39 GMT
#2156
On June 20 2015 09:34 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2015 09:30 batsnacks wrote:
I pasted 100% of my thought process regarding my POE. I even did a kind thing and cut and pasted it all into one convenient post with bullet points.

Rather than "hey bats do you have anything else?" or "bats your POE sucks please completely change all of your opinions and perspectives because I don't like them" or "bats is unreachable, I will just ignore him"

why not respond to anything I said with reason?

Yeah and since nothing has changed at all in your PoE even though you were clearly wrong on Scott, what I responded with originally still stands:
Show nested quote +

Yeah I've read your 'sulf did this, so town' posts and I'm not particularly enamored of them. I will admit I'm usually not great at reading newbies here so maybe that's why I don't feel like looking into his motivations will yield good results, but to assume that every time Sulf defended someone it makes them town seems a little suspect since there are other cases sulf didn't even comment on due to low activity.


I did not say that every time sulf defended someone it makes them town. I would take your responses more seriously if you were responding to things I actually said instead of making huge, sweeping, wrong generalizations about what I said. I said trfel is likely not mafia because sulfur defended rux and rels from him d1 and I said that oats is likely not mafia because sulfur scum read him for attacking n00b and Rels. That is not the same as townreading everyone that sulfur defended.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 20 2015 00:51 GMT
#2158
On June 20 2015 09:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
Alright, but you clearly missed the point of what I said. Your reasons are seemingly based on whatever your specific ideals are for how Sulfurus played his game when in reality you don't know exactly how he played.

In all of your PoE analysis you essentially assume that Sulfurus does not bus anyone, and never townreads fellow scum mates so only those people omitted from most of his posting entirely must be scum. If you don't see why that's faulty even after Scott got lynched than by all means continue, but don't expect me or anyone else to listen to you any further.


Sulfur's first post about you was a town read. Sulfur scum leans on damdred several times. So you're still just making huge, sweeping, wrong generalizations about my POE. It's not important to me whether or not people listen to me. Not one person has responded to a single thing I said in my POE reads. I'm happy to lead a horse to water it's not my problem if it won't drink.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 22 2015 22:18 GMT
#2601
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batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 22 2015 23:14 GMT
#2648
The geript lynch wasn't bad, and it was 100% his own fault, though I can understand that geript is salty he got lynched d1 in a newbie game by batsnacks. geript why do you defend yourself harder after the game is over than you did in the game itself? I made one single post about why you are mafia and some of the argument I used was a misunderstanding of your words, and that was enough to get you lynched.

<3 you though hope you don't stay mad forver.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 22 2015 23:19 GMT
#2653
Seriously though, geript never gets lynched if he explains calmly and collectedly "no batsnacks, there's been a misunderstanding and this is why" rather than posting donkey pics and shitting himself.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 22 2015 23:32 GMT
#2656
On June 23 2015 08:25 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2015 08:14 batsnacks wrote:
The geript lynch wasn't bad, and it was 100% his own fault, though I can understand that geript is salty he got lynched d1 in a newbie game by batsnacks. geript why do you defend yourself harder after the game is over than you did in the game itself? I made one single post about why you are mafia and some of the argument I used was a misunderstanding of your words, and that was enough to get you lynched.

<3 you though hope you don't stay mad forver.

You're a fucking idiot. Like not even joking I'm policy lynching/shooting you from now on because you're literally only helpful to mafia. There wasn't a misunderstanding of my words. Stop lying. You flat out argued that I slipped that Sulf was maf and Ruxxar or whoever was town. You did that when Wave made an exceptionally similar post. There's not a misunderstanding there. There's just you pushing me for dumbass reasons and people buying dumbass reasons. Also, I'm not defending myself. I'm pointing out how fucking stupid the D1 lynch was. Not even joking, the only worse lynch that I can think of off the top of my head was in the old newbie games where town lynched an unCC'd medic. Why should I defend myself from an argument that literally only idiots would listen to? There's no point. Because if people are buying it, then there's no way I can save myself because I'm surrounded by idiots. So seriously dude. Fuck you. Like I thought that you were a somewhat decent player before; clearly I was exceptionally wrong.


If the reasons were as dumbass as you claim then it shouldn't have been a problem not getting lynched. The "slip" wasn't the only reason people were voting you.

This post would have saved you btw:
On June 23 2015 07:58 geript wrote:
It's not about meta. Think about it. Multiple people commented on how I'm a really good scum player. But what about my posting shows I have a clear scum agenda? Or even a hint of scum agenda? How does it help me guide discussion by being terse yet opinionated? How does it help me to give some pretty hard reads while also acting like an asshole? For being a "good" scum player, that's going to give me a lesser amount of influence while also restricting my ability to run a train on newbs. So sure. Part of that is meta, but a big part of it assumes that I'm happy as scum to have as little influence on the lynch as possible while equally not hiding or blending in with the crowd. That combination is super unlikely to be mafia.

Why you chose to post this now and not when it would have mattered... I'm not sure. I can guess why. I would guess it's because you wanted to be lynched for "dumbass" reasons so that you can validate yourself. In a newbie game.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 22 2015 23:50 GMT
#2665
I think it would have worked nicely before your flip but ANYWAY I really hope haven't upset you as much as you're making it seem. :/

The lynch is still your fault though. I'm only 1 vote and it was only 1 post... and prior to that post I was pretty much the most scum read person in the game.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 23 2015 00:06 GMT
#2671
geript you should join tl mafia LXXI so we can play together again. Release those negative thetans!
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