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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 22 2015 23:44 GMT
#2661
On June 23 2015 08:42 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2015 08:32 batsnacks wrote:
On June 23 2015 08:25 geript wrote:
On June 23 2015 08:14 batsnacks wrote:
The geript lynch wasn't bad, and it was 100% his own fault, though I can understand that geript is salty he got lynched d1 in a newbie game by batsnacks. geript why do you defend yourself harder after the game is over than you did in the game itself? I made one single post about why you are mafia and some of the argument I used was a misunderstanding of your words, and that was enough to get you lynched.

<3 you though hope you don't stay mad forver.

You're a fucking idiot. Like not even joking I'm policy lynching/shooting you from now on because you're literally only helpful to mafia. There wasn't a misunderstanding of my words. Stop lying. You flat out argued that I slipped that Sulf was maf and Ruxxar or whoever was town. You did that when Wave made an exceptionally similar post. There's not a misunderstanding there. There's just you pushing me for dumbass reasons and people buying dumbass reasons. Also, I'm not defending myself. I'm pointing out how fucking stupid the D1 lynch was. Not even joking, the only worse lynch that I can think of off the top of my head was in the old newbie games where town lynched an unCC'd medic. Why should I defend myself from an argument that literally only idiots would listen to? There's no point. Because if people are buying it, then there's no way I can save myself because I'm surrounded by idiots. So seriously dude. Fuck you. Like I thought that you were a somewhat decent player before; clearly I was exceptionally wrong.


If the reasons were as dumbass as you claim then it shouldn't have been a problem not getting lynched. The "slip" wasn't the only reason people were voting you.

This post would have saved you btw:
On June 23 2015 07:58 geript wrote:
It's not about meta. Think about it. Multiple people commented on how I'm a really good scum player. But what about my posting shows I have a clear scum agenda? Or even a hint of scum agenda? How does it help me guide discussion by being terse yet opinionated? How does it help me to give some pretty hard reads while also acting like an asshole? For being a "good" scum player, that's going to give me a lesser amount of influence while also restricting my ability to run a train on newbs. So sure. Part of that is meta, but a big part of it assumes that I'm happy as scum to have as little influence on the lynch as possible while equally not hiding or blending in with the crowd. That combination is super unlikely to be mafia.

Why you chose to post this now and not when it would have mattered... I'm not sure. I can guess why. I would guess it's because you wanted to be lynched for "dumbass" reasons so that you can validate yourself. In a newbie game.

That post only works after my flip dumbass. It literally doesn't EVER work before my flip. Ask Rayn. I'm willing to do pretty much anything I would do as town as mafia. And the BS about me being voted for before that. Sure, Wave voted for me, then moved off. Oats the scumhunter extraordinaire who was afk was on me and Rels who I kinda thought was town and kinda thought was scum (good job Trfel) but had no influence was on me. 2 votes does not get me lynched. Get your shit straight. The reason why the surge went onto me was because of your fucking retarded line of thinking. You vote for me. Mafia votes for me using your logic. Damdred votes for me using your logic. Moosy votes for me using your logic. Get your shit straight bitch and shove it back up your ass. Not only are you super wrong again, you're literally only showing how fucking retarded the point you're trying to make is. I could even point out post by post how they agree with you then go vote. So ya bitch. Get the fuck out of here with that shit.


o.0 dude calm down

game is over

lol i act this way too when people scumread me for bad reasons but it's part of why you get lynched...you're so pissed and nasty about it that people get pissed and don't read your posts for content to actually reconsider their reasoning or reads, yeah?

like when this starts to be a pattern it can't just be everyone else. you understand that, right?

d1 lynch multiple games in a row, something is wrong with how you approach things
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
June 22 2015 23:45 GMT
#2662
On June 23 2015 08:36 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2015 08:32 batsnacks wrote:
This post would have saved you btw:
On June 23 2015 07:58 geript wrote:
It's not about meta. Think about it. Multiple people commented on how I'm a really good scum player. But what about my posting shows I have a clear scum agenda? Or even a hint of scum agenda? How does it help me guide discussion by being terse yet opinionated? How does it help me to give some pretty hard reads while also acting like an asshole? For being a "good" scum player, that's going to give me a lesser amount of influence while also restricting my ability to run a train on newbs. So sure. Part of that is meta, but a big part of it assumes that I'm happy as scum to have as little influence on the lynch as possible while equally not hiding or blending in with the crowd. That combination is super unlikely to be mafia.

Why you chose to post this now and not when it would have mattered... I'm not sure. I can guess why. I would guess it's because you wanted to be lynched for "dumbass" reasons so that you can validate yourself. In a newbie game.


I actually think batsnacks is right. That post would've gone a long way to convince us.

Sorry bud. From experience I can tell you it doesn't. When I make that post, it's clear and obvious in hindsight considering the flip. When I make that post during the game, the response becomes "But if you're a good mafia player then you can do that as mafia too" or "But you've set yourself up to mimic your townplay" or some other stupid thing.

To go back further, there were people (many people) who were on the side of the Wave vs Me argument over Moosy early on. But what I pointed out about Wave is actually pretty alignment indicative and I should've pushed it harder.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-22 23:48:28
June 22 2015 23:47 GMT
#2663
ruXxar if you lynch the guy with literally the best reads in the game there is something you are doing wrong.
Like i am not arguing it is not at all geript's fault he got lynched because it obviously is not the case, but it is not only him to blame.
If you want to improve go look at his posts and what he saw or try to discuss it with him if "you can't understand" his reads (which obviously everyone who were town failed to).
table for two on a tv tray
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
June 22 2015 23:48 GMT
#2664
On June 23 2015 08:44 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2015 08:42 geript wrote:
On June 23 2015 08:32 batsnacks wrote:
On June 23 2015 08:25 geript wrote:
On June 23 2015 08:14 batsnacks wrote:
The geript lynch wasn't bad, and it was 100% his own fault, though I can understand that geript is salty he got lynched d1 in a newbie game by batsnacks. geript why do you defend yourself harder after the game is over than you did in the game itself? I made one single post about why you are mafia and some of the argument I used was a misunderstanding of your words, and that was enough to get you lynched.

<3 you though hope you don't stay mad forver.

You're a fucking idiot. Like not even joking I'm policy lynching/shooting you from now on because you're literally only helpful to mafia. There wasn't a misunderstanding of my words. Stop lying. You flat out argued that I slipped that Sulf was maf and Ruxxar or whoever was town. You did that when Wave made an exceptionally similar post. There's not a misunderstanding there. There's just you pushing me for dumbass reasons and people buying dumbass reasons. Also, I'm not defending myself. I'm pointing out how fucking stupid the D1 lynch was. Not even joking, the only worse lynch that I can think of off the top of my head was in the old newbie games where town lynched an unCC'd medic. Why should I defend myself from an argument that literally only idiots would listen to? There's no point. Because if people are buying it, then there's no way I can save myself because I'm surrounded by idiots. So seriously dude. Fuck you. Like I thought that you were a somewhat decent player before; clearly I was exceptionally wrong.


If the reasons were as dumbass as you claim then it shouldn't have been a problem not getting lynched. The "slip" wasn't the only reason people were voting you.

This post would have saved you btw:
On June 23 2015 07:58 geript wrote:
It's not about meta. Think about it. Multiple people commented on how I'm a really good scum player. But what about my posting shows I have a clear scum agenda? Or even a hint of scum agenda? How does it help me guide discussion by being terse yet opinionated? How does it help me to give some pretty hard reads while also acting like an asshole? For being a "good" scum player, that's going to give me a lesser amount of influence while also restricting my ability to run a train on newbs. So sure. Part of that is meta, but a big part of it assumes that I'm happy as scum to have as little influence on the lynch as possible while equally not hiding or blending in with the crowd. That combination is super unlikely to be mafia.

Why you chose to post this now and not when it would have mattered... I'm not sure. I can guess why. I would guess it's because you wanted to be lynched for "dumbass" reasons so that you can validate yourself. In a newbie game.

That post only works after my flip dumbass. It literally doesn't EVER work before my flip. Ask Rayn. I'm willing to do pretty much anything I would do as town as mafia. And the BS about me being voted for before that. Sure, Wave voted for me, then moved off. Oats the scumhunter extraordinaire who was afk was on me and Rels who I kinda thought was town and kinda thought was scum (good job Trfel) but had no influence was on me. 2 votes does not get me lynched. Get your shit straight. The reason why the surge went onto me was because of your fucking retarded line of thinking. You vote for me. Mafia votes for me using your logic. Damdred votes for me using your logic. Moosy votes for me using your logic. Get your shit straight bitch and shove it back up your ass. Not only are you super wrong again, you're literally only showing how fucking retarded the point you're trying to make is. I could even point out post by post how they agree with you then go vote. So ya bitch. Get the fuck out of here with that shit.


o.0 dude calm down

game is over

lol i act this way too when people scumread me for bad reasons but it's part of why you get lynched...you're so pissed and nasty about it that people get pissed and don't read your posts for content to actually reconsider their reasoning or reads, yeah?

like when this starts to be a pattern it can't just be everyone else. you understand that, right?

d1 lynch multiple games in a row, something is wrong with how you approach things

Sorry rso. I'm not going to try and argue with stupid in game. There's literally no point. Could I be nicer and more helpful and write big long posts that take a couple of hours to put together that no one reads and listens to so that I can be super town read? Sure. Is it worth the effort? Not at all. I will not take responsibility for other people following fucking retarded reads. Especially when there's a long history of it.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 22 2015 23:50 GMT
#2665
I think it would have worked nicely before your flip but ANYWAY I really hope haven't upset you as much as you're making it seem. :/

The lynch is still your fault though. I'm only 1 vote and it was only 1 post... and prior to that post I was pretty much the most scum read person in the game.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 22 2015 23:54 GMT
#2666
On June 23 2015 08:48 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2015 08:44 rsoultin wrote:
On June 23 2015 08:42 geript wrote:
On June 23 2015 08:32 batsnacks wrote:
On June 23 2015 08:25 geript wrote:
On June 23 2015 08:14 batsnacks wrote:
The geript lynch wasn't bad, and it was 100% his own fault, though I can understand that geript is salty he got lynched d1 in a newbie game by batsnacks. geript why do you defend yourself harder after the game is over than you did in the game itself? I made one single post about why you are mafia and some of the argument I used was a misunderstanding of your words, and that was enough to get you lynched.

<3 you though hope you don't stay mad forver.

You're a fucking idiot. Like not even joking I'm policy lynching/shooting you from now on because you're literally only helpful to mafia. There wasn't a misunderstanding of my words. Stop lying. You flat out argued that I slipped that Sulf was maf and Ruxxar or whoever was town. You did that when Wave made an exceptionally similar post. There's not a misunderstanding there. There's just you pushing me for dumbass reasons and people buying dumbass reasons. Also, I'm not defending myself. I'm pointing out how fucking stupid the D1 lynch was. Not even joking, the only worse lynch that I can think of off the top of my head was in the old newbie games where town lynched an unCC'd medic. Why should I defend myself from an argument that literally only idiots would listen to? There's no point. Because if people are buying it, then there's no way I can save myself because I'm surrounded by idiots. So seriously dude. Fuck you. Like I thought that you were a somewhat decent player before; clearly I was exceptionally wrong.


If the reasons were as dumbass as you claim then it shouldn't have been a problem not getting lynched. The "slip" wasn't the only reason people were voting you.

This post would have saved you btw:
On June 23 2015 07:58 geript wrote:
It's not about meta. Think about it. Multiple people commented on how I'm a really good scum player. But what about my posting shows I have a clear scum agenda? Or even a hint of scum agenda? How does it help me guide discussion by being terse yet opinionated? How does it help me to give some pretty hard reads while also acting like an asshole? For being a "good" scum player, that's going to give me a lesser amount of influence while also restricting my ability to run a train on newbs. So sure. Part of that is meta, but a big part of it assumes that I'm happy as scum to have as little influence on the lynch as possible while equally not hiding or blending in with the crowd. That combination is super unlikely to be mafia.

Why you chose to post this now and not when it would have mattered... I'm not sure. I can guess why. I would guess it's because you wanted to be lynched for "dumbass" reasons so that you can validate yourself. In a newbie game.

That post only works after my flip dumbass. It literally doesn't EVER work before my flip. Ask Rayn. I'm willing to do pretty much anything I would do as town as mafia. And the BS about me being voted for before that. Sure, Wave voted for me, then moved off. Oats the scumhunter extraordinaire who was afk was on me and Rels who I kinda thought was town and kinda thought was scum (good job Trfel) but had no influence was on me. 2 votes does not get me lynched. Get your shit straight. The reason why the surge went onto me was because of your fucking retarded line of thinking. You vote for me. Mafia votes for me using your logic. Damdred votes for me using your logic. Moosy votes for me using your logic. Get your shit straight bitch and shove it back up your ass. Not only are you super wrong again, you're literally only showing how fucking retarded the point you're trying to make is. I could even point out post by post how they agree with you then go vote. So ya bitch. Get the fuck out of here with that shit.


o.0 dude calm down

game is over

lol i act this way too when people scumread me for bad reasons but it's part of why you get lynched...you're so pissed and nasty about it that people get pissed and don't read your posts for content to actually reconsider their reasoning or reads, yeah?

like when this starts to be a pattern it can't just be everyone else. you understand that, right?

d1 lynch multiple games in a row, something is wrong with how you approach things

Sorry rso. I'm not going to try and argue with stupid in game. There's literally no point. Could I be nicer and more helpful and write big long posts that take a couple of hours to put together that no one reads and listens to so that I can be super town read? Sure. Is it worth the effort? Not at all. I will not take responsibility for other people following fucking retarded reads. Especially when there's a long history of it.


-shrugs- all i'm saying is there's probably a middle ground somewhere

i'm not nice about scumreads either xP

but anyway xP this is neither here nor there cause i like hardly read this game so as not to influence my people's reads too much lol so i don't know what i'm talking about beyond geript d1 lynches have become a pattern! \o/

looking forward to when we both roll town in a game again though if you mislynch me for the 2nd time i will have to beat you with a virtual hammer
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 22 2015 23:58 GMT
#2667
Arghhhhh
GG.

The annoying thing was that people had the idea it was better to lose than to lynch wave. Like they were scared, oh if we lynch wave and he's town, I'm gonna feel more stupid than if we lynch oats and he's town.

Man come on guys.
I also thought his reaction was super super scummy which is why I kept repeating it over and over but you guys just let him slide on the past days cred. Oh yeah, people kept asking me questions after I explicitly said I was sleeping and won't be back before the flip. That was pretty funny.
Maybe if I pushed trfel mafia to discredit him we could've won.


Anyway its mostly my fault for sucking the majority of the game. Good game newbies. Really good game.

It's also totally a scum tell when someone that's supposed to die ddoesn't die. It's not wifom.
No gg, No skill.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
June 22 2015 23:59 GMT
#2668
His reaction was a little scummy, but not as scummy as you thought it was Oats.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 23 2015 00:06 GMT
#2669
Dude before the reaction I was like 50/50, after the reaction it was 100% that he's mafia. Town don't react that way to a fake check on them.
No gg, No skill.
Sulfurus
Profile Joined May 2015
United States166 Posts
June 23 2015 00:06 GMT
#2670
I'll be here for the stream thingy.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 23 2015 00:06 GMT
#2671
geript you should join tl mafia LXXI so we can play together again. Release those negative thetans!
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
June 23 2015 00:13 GMT
#2672
On June 23 2015 08:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
Oh yeah, people kept asking me questions after I explicitly said I was sleeping and won't be back before the flip. That was pretty funny.
At least in my case, it was intentional XD
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-23 00:15:00
June 23 2015 00:13 GMT
#2673
On June 23 2015 09:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
Dude before the reaction I was like 50/50, after the reaction it was 100% that he's mafia. Town don't react that way to a fake check on them.

Ehhh...you might be sort of right on there but I don't think it was as conclusive as you're making it seem. You definitely had the right idea but you go about it SO BADLY Oats. You gotta try and organize your thoughts a little better. It's too easy to pick out inconsistencies everywhere you go. Also PLEASE don't fakeclaim as town. All things considered that was actually one of the better ones I've seen but I don't want these newbies to learn from it lol

And I was telling the truth when I said I thought you were playing well D1. You just kinda fell off hard.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
June 23 2015 00:14 GMT
#2674
On June 23 2015 09:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
Dude before the reaction I was like 50/50, after the reaction it was 100% that he's mafia. Town don't react that way to a fake check on them.

Some town do Oats. Not many. But I could see Wave being town on that reaction and I've played with him more than most.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 23 2015 00:15 GMT
#2675
On June 23 2015 09:14 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2015 09:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
Dude before the reaction I was like 50/50, after the reaction it was 100% that he's mafia. Town don't react that way to a fake check on them.

Some town do Oats. Not many. But I could see Wave being town on that reaction and I've played with him more than most.


Hey geript, you wanna join tl mafia LXXI: Gaiden? It will be a lot of fun it's a big game.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
June 23 2015 00:16 GMT
#2676
Still failing at reading and thinking hunh bats?
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 23 2015 00:18 GMT
#2677
On June 23 2015 09:16 geript wrote:
Still failing at reading and thinking hunh bats?

Relax, bbygrl. Unclench those buttocks and let it go.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 23 2015 00:18 GMT
#2678
On June 23 2015 09:16 geript wrote:
Still failing at reading and thinking hunh bats?


I'm not sure about that but it will be lots of fun! There's like almost 30 people in that game you'll -barely- notice I'm there. And I think it will be good for you to squash this beef.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
June 23 2015 00:20 GMT
#2679
You realize I'm going to lynch you on D1 for being useless to town right?
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 23 2015 00:21 GMT
#2680
On June 23 2015 09:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On waited 3 2015 09:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
Dude before the reaction I was like 50/50, after the reaction it was 100% that he's mafia. Town don't react that way to a fake check on them.

Ehhh...you might be sort of right on there but I don't think it was as conclusive as you're making it seem. You definitely had the right idea but you go about it SO BADLY Oats. You gotta try and organize your thoughts a little better. It's too easy to pick out inconsistencies everywhere you go. Also PLEASE don't fakeclaim as town. All things considered that was actually one of the better ones I've seen but I don't want these newbies to learn from it lol

And I was telling the truth when I said I thought you were playing well D1. You just kinda fell off hard.

Only fake claim if it's lylo/mylo and you are sure that the actual role isn't alive and you are on the chopping block.

Yeah I totally agree with you with the organzing thoughts thing.

I knew there was no cop when bats flipped but I didn't think about claiming till a few hours into the day when it seemed super grim.
No gg, No skill.
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