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If someone could step in a nod occasionally so that I don't start quintuple posting that would be great.
Thinking about it more, ruxxar is probably town and probably wound up on so many wagons because he is over thinking his first game. He probably discredited my geript read because he saw n00b do it first and thought it would be okay for him to do it. I think all of his scummy actions can be explained in a way that makes sense for town.
Scott on the other hand does not make an appearance in sulfur's filter until 10 minutes before sulfur is about to be lynched. I am starting to like the possibility of sulfur attempting to wifom Scott/oats. Sulfur's read on Damdred is also suspicious.
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Sulfur's strategy d1 is getting on my wagon asap and townreading the other people who voted and stayed on my wagon. Sulfur is "rewarding" n00b and ruxxar with town reads because they are pushing an agenda that benefits him. Sulfur does not need to reward his scum mates to get them to push his agenda, they do it for free.
K now I'm about to possibly get controversial. Re-reading sulfur's filter again, oats is town. I will show you why with sulfur's oats case:
On June 16 2015 15:32 Sulfurus wrote:K I just realized that Oats is scummy. I looked through his filter and minus the fluff it's just him asking questions (interspersed with attempts to discredit towny posts) Now I'm sure n00b would be quick to remind me that asking questions is actually towny as it provides valuable scum hunting information But even if Oats has gotten anything from his posts he hasn't actually provided any of it to the thread in fact it's likely that his questions are helping mafia more then town. ##Vote: Oatsmaster
Look where sulfur says oats is discrediting n00b and Rels townie posts. Sulfur is defending their posts from the big bad bully oats. Newer mafia players do this a lot as scum; they defend townies from aggressive/abrasive town players and scum read them because they believe that the abrasive townie's attitude will make them easier to mislynch. They believe they are earning town points from saving other townie's from the bully. This also implies that Rels is town.
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so townies are very likely to be:
Batsnacks
Oats
Ruxxar
Rels
Kickstart
Wave
Mafia is:
Scott
Damdred
If I need to I will make a meta case on Damdred. Did I miss anyone?
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On June 19 2015 03:48 Kickstart wrote:
So you saying rels ruxxar and oats arent scummy and you want to lynch scott? Not sure I agree that anything sulfurus does makes them 3 town but I said those are the 4 I would lynch into and I still feel that way. In order it is probably like oats, scott, rels, ruxxar at this point with oats being who I would most want to lynch.
You should really read what I said. Unless there's someone I missed I'm considering this game solved.
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I forgot about trfel. Where I'm at now it's some combination of Scott, Trfel, Damdred. Scott I'm more or less sure of, I can probably figure out who it is between Damdred and trfel if I think about it more later.
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I just remembered that sulfur hard defended Rels and rux from trfel d1. This is very likely a case of sulfur defending town from town, which he also did with oats and Rels/n00b. If Trfel is mafia sulfur is not going to hard defend two townies from him.
Scott/Damdred final answer.
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On June 19 2015 04:54 Rels wrote:
batsnacks is your vote of scott only from POE ?
Yes. I think my POE is strong.
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On June 19 2015 05:06 Rels wrote:
OK so the only way scott has to defend himself is to convince you that someone you think townie is suspicious right ?
Scott shouldn't waste his time appealing to me, I won't stop voting him for the rest of the game.
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On June 19 2015 05:59 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 03:53 Kickstart wrote:
I dunno I don't see much scum motivation in Damdreds day2 stuff around the sulfurus lynch. Basically said he refused to lynch me when I was probably who scum were going to try for and he was one of the first onto sulf. I mean its possible but if Damdred is scum why doesn't he try to get something going on a townie instead of just hard defending me and immediatly voting his scum buddy. Doesnt make sense to me :/ I have a problem with this personally. It makes perfect sense to me for this reason exactly. Damdred could simply be playing the 'solo' mafia and pocketing specific players. A hard defense of a player when no one else is out for it fits the bill pretty well. Especially given that it's the 'strong' players. Did the same for batsnacks. I actually think Damdred might be scum here. Sitting back completely flying under the radar is NOT how Damdred plays, I just played a game where he was town and I was scum and it was not like this. I also still need to hear back from Oats regarding my earlier question. As far as the wagon on Scott I'm not sure how I feel about it.
Did you read my posts? I thought they were pretty compelling.
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6/8 people voting for scott
I say scott shouldn't waste his time appealing to me.
First thing scott does:
appeal to me.
Brilliant
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On June 19 2015 08:57 scott31337 wrote:Exactly 
Your response was awful btw, not there was necessarily was a correct response which is why I said not to bother. I get that you have to play to your win condition and not just flat out say "I'm mafia." When you are trying to create a compelling response to someone who believes they have strong evidence against you, telling them that you don't see any evidence at all is never going to be productive. Obviously I believe I have strong evidence against you, if it is in fact weak you wouldn't have any problem convincing everyone but me that I'm wrong, which is the approach you should take: convincing others that my evidence is not as strong as I think it is.
Anyway none of this is relevant for this game because you will get lynched today and I'm confident enough that you're mafia that no defense you could ever give will ever be enough. Maybe this will be useful to you in the future though.
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On June 19 2015 09:34 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 04:36 batsnacks wrote:
I just remembered that sulfur hard defended Rels and rux from trfel d1. This is very likely a case of sulfur defending town from town, which he also did with oats and Rels/n00b. If Trfel is mafia sulfur is not going to hard defend two townies from him.
Scott/Damdred final answer. Despite your conclusion, this is a bad argument.
It's an excellent argument. Mafia sulfur is never hard defending two townies from mafia trfel.
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On June 19 2015 09:44 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 09:34 Trfel wrote:On June 19 2015 04:36 batsnacks wrote:
I just remembered that sulfur hard defended Rels and rux from trfel d1. This is very likely a case of sulfur defending town from town, which he also did with oats and Rels/n00b. If Trfel is mafia sulfur is not going to hard defend two townies from him.
Scott/Damdred final answer. Despite your conclusion, this is a bad argument. It's an excellent argument. Mafia sulfur is never hard defending two townies from mafia trfel.
ebwop ESPECIALLY day 1.
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is it too early for me to start flexing?
*bat-flex*
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On June 19 2015 22:34 ruXxar wrote:
Do you have any more pro tips on food?
1. Put ramen in bowl
2. Put scrambled egg on ramen
3. Put bowl under coffee maker; 2 cups of water
4. Stir in flavor
Optional: make grilled cheese with iron
Hotel food that doesn't cost 50$ per meal.
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Damdred hasn't even flipped in that game ruxxar wtf?
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"He's ALSO part of the mafia in the Himalayas game..."
"ALSO"
Damdred hasn't flipped in either game. wot is goin on?
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Oh
You weren't talking about his alignment.
Ok that makes 100000x more sense. But yeah we're not allowed to talk about ongoing games.
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On June 20 2015 00:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
There's also something I'm waiting for that's likely to happen later in the day.
Consider the Bat Trap™ set.
Tell me! I promise I won't spoil it.
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If scott flips town I'll lynch damdred/wave.
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