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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On June 21 2015 07:09 Kickstart wrote: Lol at bats failuire :D. Means he took out Damdred with him correct? -_______- Well that puts the damdred lynch nonsense to rest that some were pushing. I really think we kill oats here but we can't afford any mistakes so will see. On June 21 2015 06:52 Kickstart wrote: Doubt I'll die with some others still here but just in case, kill oats~ On June 21 2015 01:17 Kickstart wrote: Oats is so scummy here and should never have been allowed to live to this point. He is just starting shit fights and calling every single player in the game scum with 0 reasoning and then peacing out or telling every person who makes any point whatsoever that their point is bad or doesn't make sense while he himself gets hung up over the most useless things. Like this 'scumslip' he keeps going on about. It clearly wasn't a fucking scumslip because the guy flipped town so why the fuck oats is so hung up on it is beyond me, besides it being the new thing he can shit up the thread and argue with someone about without actually contributing in any way. If he turns out to be town he has been fucking useless and should feel bad. On June 20 2015 07:30 Kickstart wrote: zzzzzzzzzzz Was wanting to switch to oats but overslept and no one was here any fucking ways. Where does this put us. 2 mafia vs how many town still? 2v4? Nightkill we are 2v3. Yep, have to get the next one right boys. On June 19 2015 23:05 Kickstart wrote: So scot n oats still scummy to me. Only thing I want to note is if scott flips town I am going to have to have a look at bats and trfel for telling him to not talk to them because they aren't listening. I mean I think scott is scum too and trfel is like shitting town rainbows any time he decides to post but yeah. On June 19 2015 04:56 Kickstart wrote: Yeah I have no recent experience with oats so I can't speak to that. He just seems to give no fucks about the game or even trying to figure it out. He just comes in and nitpicks at peoples points or makes some insane mafia teams that make no sense. My only experience with him was 3 years ago and he was scum that game so he was much different. On June 19 2015 04:41 Kickstart wrote: He tends to sit back like this. But he does come in when it counts or when there is pressure and does decent then. That is how I felt he did day2 and that is why I like him for now. I would agree that other than the day2 he has been very under the radar but that is exactly how I felt about him in the 1 other games I played with him (thin it was just 1  ) and that is just how he plays. Scott is a good lynch today. My worry is with Oats is that he could be mafia or town and just being lazy, but if we allow him to live to mylo or lylo we are in a real bad spot having to try to read him, whereas almost everyone else would be easier to read at that point I think. That said we still have time and a scott lynch again looks the best to me (I'm about equal on oats vs scott lynch but seems most people arent as sure on an oats lynch as I am).On June 19 2015 03:49 Kickstart wrote: Actually tbh I would just go between oats and scott now. Rels and ruxxar have posted a lot and both of them look better now so. Would lynch oats/scott today. On June 19 2015 03:48 Kickstart wrote: So you saying rels ruxxar and oats arent scummy and you want to lynch scott? Not sure I agree that anything sulfurus does makes them 3 town but I said those are the 4 I would lynch into and I still feel that way. In order it is probably like oats, scott, rels, ruxxar at this point with oats being who I would most want to lynch. On June 21 2015 08:12 Kickstart wrote: Don't like the position we are in. Oats deserves to die but if he is town then he fucked all of us by deciding to not play this game. If he is town now is the time for him to do something, otherwise he is still the best lynch. In the past 2 pages of his filter, kickstart has posted like 12 posts telling people to lynch me. That seems like more than usual paranoia. especially since hes wrong. ##vote kickstart Also all his arguments are really bad and basically hinge on him not liking the way I play, rather than any real reasons why Im mafia. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Wave is more scummy than kickstart though. Man I actually have to go through his filter and make a case. Life sucks. Also he will be pushing my ass for really bad reasons. Can I preempt his omgus? | ||
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Kickstart
United States1941 Posts
My filter looks like that because you are scum. Just go through Oats filter, it is pathetic how he has played and miraculous that he hasn't been lynched. I told town they would be sorry if oats lived till mylo/lylo and yet here we are. Wave and trfel arent scummy atm at all and if they are are scum fine they can win. Oats is most scummy followed by rels/ruxxar and like I been saying forever oats needs to be lynched. | ||
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Kickstart
United States1941 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On June 21 2015 10:04 Kickstart wrote: First of all whatever rels quoted me saying about scott isn't even close to the same thing. Dunno what universe he is in. Rels+oats scum team imo. Oats saying be not liking his play is too much of a compliment to himself. He hasn't been playing. My filter looks like that because you are scum. Just go through Oats filter, it is pathetic how he has played and miraculous that he hasn't been lynched. I told town they would be sorry if oats lived till mylo/lylo and yet here we are. Wave and trfel arent scummy atm at all and if they are are scum fine they can win. Oats is most scummy followed by rels/ruxxar and like I been saying forever oats needs to be lynched. Imo at this point in time nobody should be off the table. I love Oats 'pre-empting the OMGUS' so if/when I come after he can try and make me look bad. lol Oats you should know very well that would never work. I'm going to do some massive re-reading as the night progresses. Going to leave all my reads at the door. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On June 21 2015 10:08 Kickstart wrote: Ill make this real easy in fact. I refuse to move my vote. So you can vote with me and hit mafia or vote whoever mafia is trying to push and lose the game. ##vote Oatsmaster This is not a good way to progress. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
What kind of attitude is "they can win if they are mafia." Dude it's mylo, gotta reevaluate. Dunno what kinda shit kickstart is doing but he wants to lose the game. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
Preliminary thoughts: Killing bats over me/Trfel/Kickstart would suggest that at least one of us is scum (scumteam very well could be Kickstart/Trfel). Damdred not being killed suggests that it's a player who is not aware of his potential (Ruxxar/Rels/Kickstart)? Trfel not being killed....? Not killing me suggests a player who is aware I am legitimately terrible at solving a game (Oats)? I don't think NK answers anything for me tbh. Especially since people might have been starting to turn around on bats. Ruxxar pre-EON WIFOM also really struck a nerve with me and it aggravates me because I have no idea whether it affected the NK or not AND whether or not it's by his own design. If he's town, I feel like newbie scum are way more likely to listen to what he said and leave Trfel/me alive if we're both town to attempt to frame...as such Kickstart's reaction to the NK fits for town both because he is not technically a newbie as he knows how the game works---'framing' is not usually a good scum play and were he scum and done that he wouldn't be trying to latch hardcore onto Oats when he has a good excuse to hit up either one of us (or just me if Trfel is scum). If ruxxar is scum it's easy setup to push one of us. Impossible to tell which. Conclusions: Feel ok about Kickstart to begin with. | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
can you explain this list, because I can't make sense of it. On June 21 2015 06:55 WaveofShadow wrote: Ruxxar rels trfel kickstart oats bats damdred Never had time to do reread 'cause weekend stuff, sorry  Not sure on the null/scum list tbh but I am confident the 2 scum are there. Bye guys! It was a pleasure! Why are me and rel town and not bats and kickstart? It does not seem congruent with what you've expressed so far. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
I had you and Rels likely town for a while due to relative noobishness (and I was right on Moosy despite my doubts) while bats being wrong a whole bunch had my hackles up (and knowing he can be pretty cunning, I've lost to him before as scum). Kickstart I think I just threw there for shits. | ||
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ruXxar
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
On June 21 2015 10:15 Oatsmaster wrote: I'm. Town. Guys. Keep saying that, maybe we'll start believing it. | ||
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Onegu
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
It's likely since there is a godfather right? | ||
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Kickstart
United States1941 Posts
Lets gather a list of who Oats has called scummy. Day1 Starts the game off with a retarded push on bats and thus starts the day1 nonsense where bats was a very possible lynch candidate. On June 12 2015 10:26 Oatsmaster wrote: why would you do this. 1. Im vt. 2. Bats is mafia. 3. Chezinu rule. ##vote Bats Here again he is pushing the retarded bats read but notice him also hedging his bet on geript, WHO HE VOTES FOR LATER ANYWAYS. On June 12 2015 10:30 Oatsmaster wrote: Can we just kill bats? Its super obvious, he voted someone that claimed VT. meh geript, he seems interested and it really feels more like lynchbait than mafia. First time he says I'm scum, in his typical shit reasons fashion. Though I guess with oats him giving a shit reason is a rarity cause as you will see he usually doesn't give any reason at all. On June 12 2015 11:22 Oatsmaster wrote: Ì wanna lynch kickstart man. That case is forcing a read hard. Voted on noobs, justification being noobs had just posted long advice posts instead of scumhunting. On June 12 2015 17:07 Oatsmaster wrote: ##vote Noob He later took his vote off with a good point about noob continuing to post advice even after called out. But again scum could easily make such a point. On June 13 2015 00:57 Oatsmaster wrote: So now we base reads on what mafia was supposed to do and didnt? Dont like that at all. Dont like that you peaced out and dont care about the game either. You came back here and did nothing but defend yourself. You didnt scumhunt, you didnt advance the thread. Geript too btw. I kinda think noob is town because he just keeps on giving advice even after people tell him to stop. Notice the continual hedging of his reads and the flip flops. Here he does it while setting up to move his vote on geript. Notice also that up until this point he has only ever pushed for votes on people that are all confirmed town, 3 people not one of them scum. 4 town he pushed on if you count myself as I do. Still in day 1, still willing to lynch whoever has the wagons and still hasn't pushed any original and meaningful reads. On June 13 2015 18:40 Oatsmaster wrote: I would lynch geript if we don't lynch bats. More nonsense on day 1, again all on confirmed towns: On June 14 2015 00:14 Oatsmaster wrote: Lets lynch geript kk. On June 14 2015 01:58 Oatsmaster wrote: Im going to sleep. Lynch geript. On June 14 2015 09:14 Oatsmaster wrote: Let's get moosy tmr Night1/Day2 Oats posting around flips is ridiculous in general but this one is pretty good. After only arguing with bats for the entirety of day and bats being the main person he pushes, after the geript flip here is his defense for hoping on the geript wagon: LOL at the blatant lies. Read his day1 filter and aside from the meaningless points his filter is only him 'pressuring'/arguing with/about bats. But he thought he was town, riiiiiiiiiiight. He also picks up his calling almost everyone mafia. I didn't mention it earlier but he did earlier and here call sulfurus possible mafia, but note that he does not stick to this read or even push sulf at any point in the game. Even when sulf was lynched his vote wasn't there. On June 14 2015 09:36 Oatsmaster wrote: I quite like lynching Scot. On June 14 2015 10:12 Oatsmaster wrote: What's your issue wave? Trfels post sounds super scummy, we have only one flip so far but he says he thought we were llooking good with nobody flipped. On June 14 2015 15:18 Oatsmaster wrote: Damdred didn't call me town, he's scum. Also that completely pointless list post that has more townreads than scum reads. Sulph / damdred mafia. Scott also maybe. Just his usual causing a shitstorm and being non-committal and non-helpful. Then we have the whole day2 vote situation in which oats looks bad in every way imaginable around this flip. First, hes been calling sulf scum but doesn't push the sulf lynch and his vote didn't even end up there it stayed on me. The wagon on me is picking up steam, he goes from being so ridiculously against it to just saying ok fine and voting me and leaving his vote there: On June 16 2015 08:41 Oatsmaster wrote: I really dont like this kickstart lynch, its coming up super fast and everyone is supporting it. What happened to lynching ruxxar? I thought that was pretty good. or damdred. On June 16 2015 10:17 Oatsmaster wrote: Kickstart is pretty damn obviously town and him not doing anything doesn't really diminish his start. Like this is a super easy lynch for scum to push because Kickstart 's attitude sucks and a pretty predictable response will come. Let's lynch ruxxar instead. On June 16 2015 10:18 Oatsmaster wrote: Seriously why the hell is kickstart a better lynch. Can someone like trfel give me one reason that doesn't include the words activity and promises. all that only to then do this: On June 16 2015 12:26 Oatsmaster wrote: Damdred, do you want to lynch kickstart or not? On June 16 2015 22:42 Oatsmaster wrote: Pretty ok case I guess. Dammit I hate being a wrong but now kickstart actually looks like mafia. It's weird that sulph wants to lynch me rather than kickstart though. If I looked so towny and sulf looks so bad why the fuck wasn't his vote on sulf. Day3 After the vote he gets even more ridiculous saying that no one can be confirmed town after this lynch. I'm just annoyed looking through his filter. Instead of trying to figure anything out or do anything productive when we just got the godfather to flip he just shits up the thread. But when all else fails, oats goes back to his usual just calling everyone mafia with no reasons: On June 17 2015 09:38 Oatsmaster wrote: Yea OK I don't agree with that trfel. Hey Scott, why aren't you waiting for rel to flip before making a shitty association case? Scum is in scott / kickstart / rux maybe, I remember something made him scummy, gotta check. On June 17 2015 09:42 Oatsmaster wrote: Yeah, sorry Scott, that's not actually a case, just observation. I ddidn't explain my scum reads cause I didn't think it was all that important. Also I totally forgot about Damdred lol. Damdred mafia. Also, I never explained a reason for you to be mafia, so it can't be shit. Damdred should just know better than to townhunt rather than scumhunt After the sulf flip he tries to paint me and damdred as the most likely scum at this point? That is just so retarded it still boggles my mind. I was the first vote on sulf and damdred was the second and oats tries to argue for a long time that neither of us really thought he was scum and our votes mean nothing because we could have bused him. Just ridiculous. Anyways to shorten this down , oats tries to push on damdred or scott for the next lynch, both of which are confirmed town now. Now look at his current play and of all the people to say are scummy he is trying to push wave or me as being the scummiest???? Get real. I suggest you all to read his filter. The only thing that ever made me reconsider was his early talking about sulf but then when it counted it amounted to literally nothing. If oats is town here then we just blame the loss on him because his play has been ridiculous. Again, read his filter, the whole thing is bad. | ||
Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
Something witty related to vote counts Oatsmaster (2): ruxXar, Kickstart Not Voting (4): Rels Trfel WaveofShadow Oatsmaster Currently Oatsmaster is set to be lynched with 2 votes. Remember to vote in the voting thread Day ends in | ||
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Kickstart
United States1941 Posts
Whatever, my money is on oats and rels scum team. | ||
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