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[M][N] I Still Can't Believe it's not Themed Mafia
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On June 05 2015 08:45 VayneAuthority wrote: This guy is mafia. Notice how he tries to insert himself into the playful banter so as to fit into the crowd, but doesn't actually care to continue it or give a reasonable out. He simply drops his comment in and that's it to expand his filter and get townie points. On top of that, his post has 3 As in it and I think he is trying to breadcrumb here that he is a triple A member, but that is impossible if we are to believe the average town member is of Onegu's stature, a poor farmer who probably doesn't even have a car. It doesn't add up. Therefore, I state my conclusions to be appropriate. I can see no flaws with this reasoning. | ||
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First, regarding the claims... I can't find a reason to really disbelieve NaCl's claim. Was at least leaning town on him before it (mostly because of the case that people seem to agree seems accurate, though I haven't had the time to look into mig's previous games myself). That being said, I can't really decide what to make of Artanis's claim. My instinct is to believe him, though that instinct has bitten me in the ass before. Like prplhz said, his story does have a consistency to it that leads me to believe he's telling the truth. The fact that prplhz's view suddenly seemed to flip on the subject makes me... uncomfortable. On June 05 2015 20:40 boxerfred wrote: No thought on you or fecal thus far On yamato? Given that he lurks, only to make a vote on me, only to leave another short, lurky comment? Yeah could very well be. That's not too solid however. I tend to no-vote currently. I think I'd prefer to lynch this guy. Gives reasons to see yamato as scummy>says yamato could be scummy>backs off on it>prefers no-lynch over guy he thinks could be scum. I mean, I understand wishy-washiness better than anyone, but he definitely seems to just be coasting by. Like... if he'd really given enough thought to preferring a no-lynch over a yamato lynch, why didn't he then switch his vote? He seems to just be saying things to say things, giving the appearance of participation, and disappearing. ##Vote boxerfred Gotta get some sleep, but I'll get up an hour or two early to read/talk. | ||
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On June 06 2015 16:33 prplhz wrote: Sure, there's a town narrative that fits for Artanis[Xp] but not if you consider that he's Artanis[Xp]. Artanis[Xp] hasn't been lynched in like 15 town games. Survived or night killed every single one of them. Is that because he pulls shit like this as town? Or is it because his town is extremely solid and he can rely on just playing normally to not get lynched? How do you reconcile Artanis[Xp]'s meta of never getting lynched as town with his behavior this game? Do you think this is the behavior of someone who never gets lynched? I've never been mislynched either. Is it because of my sterling town play? Just feels like a silly metric to me. On June 06 2015 16:34 prplhz wrote: @fuba What do you think about marvellosity's read on boxerfred? The read where he says bf's opening sounds different than bf's newbie mafia game? I think it sounds like barely a read. Is that supposed to dissuade me from thinking he could be scum? On June 06 2015 16:35 prplhz wrote: like, fuba coming in here with nothing but an inconsistent artanis read and a scum read on the new guy who talks funny is seriously underwhelming I really have trouble understanding how my D1 returns to the thread are consistently underwhelming, when they're almost always the same kinds of posts. Literally 100% of my town games involve returning to the thread to have at least one person declare my entire post scummy, without actually addressing anything that I've said. On June 06 2015 19:19 justanothertownie wrote: Holy shit, I hate this post. Especially the bolded. Case in point. On June 06 2015 20:05 boxerfred wrote: well I said "I tend to no-lynch" not that I would do it straight away. Fuba why so hard on me when I push yamato the slightiest? Also ignoring what I said, and simply suggesting that the entire thing is a defense of yamato. brb shower | ||
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On June 07 2015 00:04 fuba wrote: Also a little strange that JAT didn't incredibly hate the part of my post where I said I believe artanis's claim, given that he thinks the claim to be the most obviously false thing in the game. Hmmm, this is likely irrelevant. | ||
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On June 07 2015 00:13 marvellosity wrote: is my read on you reasonable, fuba? I agree that it's quite difficult for me to post as scum. Though if you look at my most recent game, "difficulty posting" has kinda slipped into my town play as well. Currently trying to remedy that situation XD So I guess your reasoning is sound, though incomplete. | ||
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I'm not going to concern myself too much with marv. I don't know how to read him, and his play as either alignment is beyond my ability to scumhunt. I see him as one of those players who's either dead in the first few nights or lives all game and is eventually lynched as scum. That being said, I kinda expected his vote to switch off me when I started participating, with the vote returning on D2 if I don't keep it up. As far as yamato goes, I actually felt somewhat similarly to him regarding the crumb. In retrospect, from Artanis's POV, someone specifically (but presumably accidentally) pointing out that crumb might make me believe that it's now incredibly obvious to mafia. I even kinda related to him when he basically said "do what you want, I'm not gonna be a part of this lynch". @NaCl: what's the major difference between yamato's reaction and my own? @marv: How do you feel about NaCl's boxerfred read? @boxerfred: I can't read your post atm, gotta get to work. Will do it though~ | ||
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On June 07 2015 01:54 NaCl`y wrote: So your intention is to flail around like a stroppy child? Duly noted. To everyone else. I think my points on Yamato77 are pretty good. He saw that 2 townies had claimed roles and was not hesitant in the slightest about believing Artanis[Xp]'s wildly (to me at least) strange breadcrumb but then also believed that I was a towny too. His first reaction to me outing my role was in fact: which doesn't display any kind of hesitance for my alignment either. I think he was dealing with too much information and made that known with his responses to the entire situation. Please vote for him with me. Though this... this might change my mind. Will think about it. Time for work XD | ||
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Read boxerfred's response to me. I guess I can see it from his POV. If he's truly a new player who's been busy with kids, I can see him just kinda letting D1 happen and stepping back in D2. Bothers me that he said he was gonna catch up on the last few pages, but has yet to comment on anything, really, that doesn't directly involve him. If no one else is going for him, I guess I'll switch? But that leaves me with few choices, really. I agree with JAT's not-lynch list (and I add JAT to it, as well). Yamato is probably the one I see the most actual scum potential in, though it's mostly because I'm not entirely sure how to read FF or even VA all that well. Chezinu I have no idea whatsoever how to read, and the same almost goes for slam. It's mostly a POE vote, coupled with the fact that I just kinda expect more out of him as town. ##Vote yamato77 | ||
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I'm gonna have to think about who I want to lynch instead, though. | ||
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(At work for the next few hours) | ||
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On June 08 2015 22:57 NaCl`y wrote: His newbie game has walls of text of involvement. I don't think bussing is strange in the slightest either. Your post gives me massive hesitancy about your alignment though. Why are those things unlikely? VayneAuthority, chezinu, Alakaslam are all chronic afkers despite their alignments. People having hesitancy about my alignment is the standard way of things, so I'm kinda glad we've returned to it. Was making me uncomfortable. I haven't read his newbie game. Might do so tonight. But I don't really see the point in comparing this current game to his single previously played game. Speculating on how he might play town based off of his scum game is silly, and without having at least one of each, you can't even attempt to form some kind of meta read. What I think is silly is light bussing pretty much immediately, and then remaining on that nearly the entire day. Admittedly, at the end, BF went balls to the wall against yamato and anyone not voting for him. As I said earlier, it could be TMI. Can't fault anyone for thinking that. But I see it as a town newbie, excited that his first scumread was getting lynched. He doesn't seem concerned with how the thread sees him (until he's actually called out on it). He seems genuine. I would probably see it differently if it was someone who wasn't in their second game. Yeah, I never said it was anything more than that. It's pretty much all I can say about Vayne though. | ||
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On June 10 2015 00:00 Half the Sky wrote: Alright Marv (from your quote on this), I am also having this same problem with this quote he says on Vayne. Vayne doesn't post much as either alignment, and even as scum he's not as tryhard as he was supposedly before (well I learnt that the hard way in Aperture 4). I also don't understand the associative read that he makes between yam and VA here. Fuba are you referring to the timing of the vote here that makes Vayne scummy? Had to read this more than a few times now. I checked the vote count and VA voted Chez so I am completely confused by this? In any case looking at the rest of the filter, I still would have expected some followup if he had a problem with Vayne. Even a one-liner for what it was worth. This was mostly in response to what BF was saying about Vayne. BF was saying Vayne was scummy, and I pointed out what I saw as the most potentially scummy thing about Vayne at that point. The fact that it was so flimsy was meant to imply that I don't really think vayne is scum (or, I should say, I really have no idea what to think about vayne), but I apparently didn't convey it properly. | ||
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In all honesty, the thing that swayed me most is that he just seemed genuine. That isn't typically an acceptable answer, so I tried to fluff it up with "reasoning" and such. | ||
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Right now, I'm still thinking BF is town. Though I'm gonna read his previous game to see if I get the same feeling from him there as I do here. And I have little idea about Vayne. The only thing I directly remember about him is his reaction to yamato flipping (which was either just an honest town reaction or scum wifom) and the fact that he reposted his post about me from our last game together (which would seem to indicate he's a survivor XD). So... my current VA read is a whole lot of *shrugs* | ||
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On June 10 2015 00:26 justanothertownie wrote: Do you have any reads that do not consists only of shrugs? Mmmmmm mostly town reads. I'll put in the effort of deciding who, among people I don't know how to read, is scum, when the lynch isn't already decided. On that note: ##Vote Chezinu I want to see what his death promises us. | ||
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