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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 09 2015 18:29 GMT
#1341
In this example, he's pretty blatant if this should happen to be from a real check. At least there he's giving direction...

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/98457-gg-red-army-mafia?page=53#1041
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
June 09 2015 18:29 GMT
#1342
On June 10 2015 03:28 fuba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2015 03:26 prplhz wrote:
if chez checked marv red and thinks marv is scum, why is he telling people not to lynch marv? and we can sort of figure out "there could be millers in the game" on our own.

Where did he tell people not to lynch marv?

eh, i mean him saying "my cop check could be wrong". why say that if he really thinks marv is scum?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 09 2015 18:30 GMT
#1343
I mean by your own theory the whole "talking in clues" is probably not going to hold up Fuba if that's what you're claiming should qualify as a DT claim for him.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
NaCl`y
Profile Joined June 2015
131 Posts
June 09 2015 18:31 GMT
#1344
To sum up this discussion. If Chezinu flips any variant of a town role we should lynch Fuba.
NaCl`y
Profile Joined June 2015
131 Posts
June 09 2015 18:33 GMT
#1345
On June 10 2015 03:31 NaCl`y wrote:
To sum up this discussion. If Chezinu flips any variant of a town role we should lynch Fuba.


To justify my reasoning. He has seemingly hard defended (not particularly hard but still hard nonetheless) the people that people are most suspicious of at times when it was unwarranted (Boxerfred in general, Chezinu now, VayneAuthority about how there's not much to call him mafia for).
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
June 09 2015 18:34 GMT
#1346
On June 10 2015 03:29 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2015 03:28 fuba wrote:
On June 10 2015 03:26 prplhz wrote:
if chez checked marv red and thinks marv is scum, why is he telling people not to lynch marv? and we can sort of figure out "there could be millers in the game" on our own.

Where did he tell people not to lynch marv?

eh, i mean him saying "my cop check could be wrong". why say that if he really thinks marv is scum?

Hmm, true.
@theRealMkfuba07
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
June 09 2015 18:36 GMT
#1347
On June 10 2015 03:29 Half the Sky wrote:
In this example, he's pretty blatant if this should happen to be from a real check. At least there he's giving direction...

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/98457-gg-red-army-mafia?page=53#1041

On June 09 2015 12:33 Chezinu wrote:

What is this, then?
@theRealMkfuba07
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 09 2015 18:38 GMT
#1348
On June 10 2015 03:33 NaCl`y wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2015 03:31 NaCl`y wrote:
To sum up this discussion. If Chezinu flips any variant of a town role we should lynch Fuba.


To justify my reasoning. He has seemingly hard defended (not particularly hard but still hard nonetheless) the people that people are most suspicious of at times when it was unwarranted (Boxerfred in general, Chezinu now, VayneAuthority about how there's not much to call him mafia for).


I thought he rescinded the point on VA or said it was in reference to someone else talking about VA?

But still, this goes back to the point I made on his initial read on Artanis though I wouldn't call it a hard defence. Weighing in on the JK claim was warranted but not taking into account the gameplay on which it stands.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 09 2015 18:42 GMT
#1349
As for fuba himself, the only thing is him saying at one point (pretty sure it was him and not BF since they were in thread at the same time) he didn't have many or any scumreads atm.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
June 09 2015 18:42 GMT
#1350
On June 10 2015 03:29 NaCl`y wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2015 03:13 fuba wrote:
On June 10 2015 03:09 NaCl`y wrote:
He could quite easily also be a mafia role cop and checked marvellosity.

Oh yeah... I forget about mafia roles besides roleblocker and godfather.

Though does his play make sense as a rolecop? Guess it doesn't really matter. Though why you suggest that as an option confuses me. Does it explain why chez is behaving like a town cop?


Show nested quote +
On June 10 2015 03:03 NaCl`y wrote:
On June 10 2015 02:58 fuba wrote:
On June 10 2015 02:55 NaCl`y wrote:
On June 10 2015 02:54 fuba wrote:
Like, even if chez is scum, which I'm questioning, marv should at least understand what chez is getting at, considering it's almost entirely been about him.


Why are you questioning this?

He clearly seems to be claiming cop.


So, what you are saying is that Chezinu is claiming cop but on day 1 when I counter claimed Artanis[Xp], Chezinu was quite happy to vote for fecalfeast and quite blatantly ignored the entire thing to begin with. So in his world there were 2 doctors and 1 cop? I don't believe that and that is why I deduced that his claim must be a mafia one.

On June 06 2015 09:12 Chezinu wrote:
##Unvote

##Vote FecalFeast


Artanis[Xp] save yourself vote fecalfeast!!!



Like I said before. His play does not look like he is a blue role at all. If he is claiming that there might be millers in this game then he could have quite possibly role checked marvellosity and to anyone that did not remember the rest of the game it would look like he's actually a cop if we actually lynched marvellosity or he flipped miller.

How does his D2 not look like he's blue?
@theRealMkfuba07
NaCl`y
Profile Joined June 2015
131 Posts
June 09 2015 18:43 GMT
#1351
On June 10 2015 03:38 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2015 03:33 NaCl`y wrote:
On June 10 2015 03:31 NaCl`y wrote:
To sum up this discussion. If Chezinu flips any variant of a town role we should lynch Fuba.


To justify my reasoning. He has seemingly hard defended (not particularly hard but still hard nonetheless) the people that people are most suspicious of at times when it was unwarranted (Boxerfred in general, Chezinu now, VayneAuthority about how there's not much to call him mafia for).


I thought he rescinded the point on VA or said it was in reference to someone else talking about VA?

But still, this goes back to the point I made on his initial read on Artanis though I wouldn't call it a hard defence. Weighing in on the JK claim was warranted but not taking into account the gameplay on which it stands.


Well it doesn't matter what he did in regards to VA since all of his original thought posts are there to defend someone from something or another. His boxerfred stance was simply "I don't think he'd do this as mafia" and when I point to his filter in his other game that would say otherwise he exclaims that he has not read it but still maintains his point is correct.

His stance on Chezinu now is still strange given that I've just shown his actions around the Artanis[Xp] and my jailkeeper claims and he still maintains he could be a cop.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 09 2015 18:43 GMT
#1352
And fuba, you are suggesting that's implying a redcheck?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
NaCl`y
Profile Joined June 2015
131 Posts
June 09 2015 18:44 GMT
#1353
On June 10 2015 03:42 fuba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2015 03:29 NaCl`y wrote:
On June 10 2015 03:13 fuba wrote:
On June 10 2015 03:09 NaCl`y wrote:
He could quite easily also be a mafia role cop and checked marvellosity.

Oh yeah... I forget about mafia roles besides roleblocker and godfather.

Though does his play make sense as a rolecop? Guess it doesn't really matter. Though why you suggest that as an option confuses me. Does it explain why chez is behaving like a town cop?


On June 10 2015 03:03 NaCl`y wrote:
On June 10 2015 02:58 fuba wrote:
On June 10 2015 02:55 NaCl`y wrote:
On June 10 2015 02:54 fuba wrote:
Like, even if chez is scum, which I'm questioning, marv should at least understand what chez is getting at, considering it's almost entirely been about him.


Why are you questioning this?

He clearly seems to be claiming cop.


So, what you are saying is that Chezinu is claiming cop but on day 1 when I counter claimed Artanis[Xp], Chezinu was quite happy to vote for fecalfeast and quite blatantly ignored the entire thing to begin with. So in his world there were 2 doctors and 1 cop? I don't believe that and that is why I deduced that his claim must be a mafia one.

On June 06 2015 09:12 Chezinu wrote:
##Unvote

##Vote FecalFeast


Artanis[Xp] save yourself vote fecalfeast!!!



Like I said before. His play does not look like he is a blue role at all. If he is claiming that there might be millers in this game then he could have quite possibly role checked marvellosity and to anyone that did not remember the rest of the game it would look like he's actually a cop if we actually lynched marvellosity or he flipped miller.

How does his D2 not look like he's blue?


When a person is up for lynch do you not think they would change their playstyle completely to facilitate the need to escape later? His d1 actions scream the opposite of his day 2 actions, it's as simple as that. Mafia have no roleblocker and no vigilante so a cop and jailkeeper would be broken.
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
June 09 2015 18:45 GMT
#1354
On June 10 2015 03:42 fuba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2015 03:29 NaCl`y wrote:
On June 10 2015 03:13 fuba wrote:
On June 10 2015 03:09 NaCl`y wrote:
He could quite easily also be a mafia role cop and checked marvellosity.

Oh yeah... I forget about mafia roles besides roleblocker and godfather.

Though does his play make sense as a rolecop? Guess it doesn't really matter. Though why you suggest that as an option confuses me. Does it explain why chez is behaving like a town cop?


On June 10 2015 03:03 NaCl`y wrote:
On June 10 2015 02:58 fuba wrote:
On June 10 2015 02:55 NaCl`y wrote:
On June 10 2015 02:54 fuba wrote:
Like, even if chez is scum, which I'm questioning, marv should at least understand what chez is getting at, considering it's almost entirely been about him.


Why are you questioning this?

He clearly seems to be claiming cop.


So, what you are saying is that Chezinu is claiming cop but on day 1 when I counter claimed Artanis[Xp], Chezinu was quite happy to vote for fecalfeast and quite blatantly ignored the entire thing to begin with. So in his world there were 2 doctors and 1 cop? I don't believe that and that is why I deduced that his claim must be a mafia one.

On June 06 2015 09:12 Chezinu wrote:
##Unvote

##Vote FecalFeast


Artanis[Xp] save yourself vote fecalfeast!!!



Like I said before. His play does not look like he is a blue role at all. If he is claiming that there might be millers in this game then he could have quite possibly role checked marvellosity and to anyone that did not remember the rest of the game it would look like he's actually a cop if we actually lynched marvellosity or he flipped miller.

How does his D2 not look like he's blue?

Actually, at that point, he did have plenty of votes on him already. Guess he could have just been acting the entire time.
@theRealMkfuba07
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
June 09 2015 18:45 GMT
#1355
On June 09 2015 17:29 Mig wrote:
Chezy I don't think you actually think I am mafia.

Your hatter claim is obviously bs, that role is too fun for you, 0 chance you forget about the game as a hatter. The only reason you are claiming I am mafia is because you are claiming that I am mafia team mates with marv and now am trying to save him. Really don't think you believe that.

I guess that probably means you are mafia and now just spamming stuff you don't believe to distract the thread and cause chaos.


This point is still accurate, chez wouldn't "forget" about a game he was a dt in. He's clearly just fucking around at this point.

##Vote Chezzy
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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 09 2015 18:45 GMT
#1356
On June 10 2015 03:43 NaCl`y wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2015 03:38 Half the Sky wrote:
On June 10 2015 03:33 NaCl`y wrote:
On June 10 2015 03:31 NaCl`y wrote:
To sum up this discussion. If Chezinu flips any variant of a town role we should lynch Fuba.


To justify my reasoning. He has seemingly hard defended (not particularly hard but still hard nonetheless) the people that people are most suspicious of at times when it was unwarranted (Boxerfred in general, Chezinu now, VayneAuthority about how there's not much to call him mafia for).


I thought he rescinded the point on VA or said it was in reference to someone else talking about VA?

But still, this goes back to the point I made on his initial read on Artanis though I wouldn't call it a hard defence. Weighing in on the JK claim was warranted but not taking into account the gameplay on which it stands.


Well it doesn't matter what he did in regards to VA since all of his original thought posts are there to defend someone from something or another. His boxerfred stance was simply "I don't think he'd do this as mafia" and when I point to his filter in his other game that would say otherwise he exclaims that he has not read it but still maintains his point is correct.

His stance on Chezinu now is still strange given that I've just shown his actions around the Artanis[Xp] and my jailkeeper claims and he still maintains he could be a cop.


Damn you have a very good point about the DT/2 prot scenario.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
June 09 2015 18:48 GMT
#1357
On June 10 2015 03:43 Half the Sky wrote:
And fuba, you are suggesting that's implying a redcheck?

Yes. If I was in chez's place (assuming for the moment that chez is town), I'd assume that that message would be read as a red check on marv, in the event of my eventual flip as cop.
@theRealMkfuba07
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
June 09 2015 18:49 GMT
#1358
On June 10 2015 03:45 Mig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2015 17:29 Mig wrote:
Chezy I don't think you actually think I am mafia.

Your hatter claim is obviously bs, that role is too fun for you, 0 chance you forget about the game as a hatter. The only reason you are claiming I am mafia is because you are claiming that I am mafia team mates with marv and now am trying to save him. Really don't think you believe that.

I guess that probably means you are mafia and now just spamming stuff you don't believe to distract the thread and cause chaos.


This point is still accurate, chez wouldn't "forget" about a game he was a dt in. He's clearly just fucking around at this point.

##Vote Chezzy

Bleh, that's a good point too.

I'm just gonna give in on this one.
@theRealMkfuba07
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
June 09 2015 18:50 GMT
#1359
Yeah, chez is just trying to cause confusion.

Why would a cop even bother to say "there may be millers" if he's not going to defend himself before lynch? If you have a red check, 'reminding' people of a miller serves to only create wiggle room for scum!marv if he was actually redchecked.

Just doesn't make sense to me
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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 09 2015 18:51 GMT
#1360
On June 10 2015 03:48 fuba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2015 03:43 Half the Sky wrote:
And fuba, you are suggesting that's implying a redcheck?

Yes. If I was in chez's place (assuming for the moment that chez is town), I'd assume that that message would be read as a red check on marv, in the event of my eventual flip as cop.


Salty has a very good point though on potential setup issues here. The DT/2 prot claim.

Secondly has Chez fakeclaimed as scum before? Or talked in clues trying to fakeclaim? You've looked at it from a town side, but did you consider the mafia side, I think Salty it was alluded to the rolecop possibility?

Especially since the town gameplay largely isn't there.
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