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[M][N] I Still Can't Believe it's not Themed Mafia - Page 68
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Half the Sky
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
eh, i mean him saying "my cop check could be wrong". why say that if he really thinks marv is scum? | ||
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Half the Sky
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NaCl`y
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NaCl`y
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On June 10 2015 03:31 NaCl`y wrote: To sum up this discussion. If Chezinu flips any variant of a town role we should lynch Fuba. To justify my reasoning. He has seemingly hard defended (not particularly hard but still hard nonetheless) the people that people are most suspicious of at times when it was unwarranted (Boxerfred in general, Chezinu now, VayneAuthority about how there's not much to call him mafia for). | ||
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fuba
United States663 Posts
On June 10 2015 03:29 prplhz wrote: eh, i mean him saying "my cop check could be wrong". why say that if he really thinks marv is scum? Hmm, true. | ||
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fuba
United States663 Posts
On June 10 2015 03:29 Half the Sky wrote: In this example, he's pretty blatant if this should happen to be from a real check. At least there he's giving direction... http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/98457-gg-red-army-mafia?page=53#1041 On June 09 2015 12:33 Chezinu wrote: What is this, then? | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On June 10 2015 03:33 NaCl`y wrote: To justify my reasoning. He has seemingly hard defended (not particularly hard but still hard nonetheless) the people that people are most suspicious of at times when it was unwarranted (Boxerfred in general, Chezinu now, VayneAuthority about how there's not much to call him mafia for). I thought he rescinded the point on VA or said it was in reference to someone else talking about VA? But still, this goes back to the point I made on his initial read on Artanis though I wouldn't call it a hard defence. Weighing in on the JK claim was warranted but not taking into account the gameplay on which it stands. | ||
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Half the Sky
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fuba
United States663 Posts
On June 10 2015 03:29 NaCl`y wrote: Like I said before. His play does not look like he is a blue role at all. If he is claiming that there might be millers in this game then he could have quite possibly role checked marvellosity and to anyone that did not remember the rest of the game it would look like he's actually a cop if we actually lynched marvellosity or he flipped miller. How does his D2 not look like he's blue? | ||
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NaCl`y
131 Posts
On June 10 2015 03:38 Half the Sky wrote: I thought he rescinded the point on VA or said it was in reference to someone else talking about VA? But still, this goes back to the point I made on his initial read on Artanis though I wouldn't call it a hard defence. Weighing in on the JK claim was warranted but not taking into account the gameplay on which it stands. Well it doesn't matter what he did in regards to VA since all of his original thought posts are there to defend someone from something or another. His boxerfred stance was simply "I don't think he'd do this as mafia" and when I point to his filter in his other game that would say otherwise he exclaims that he has not read it but still maintains his point is correct. His stance on Chezinu now is still strange given that I've just shown his actions around the Artanis[Xp] and my jailkeeper claims and he still maintains he could be a cop. | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
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NaCl`y
131 Posts
When a person is up for lynch do you not think they would change their playstyle completely to facilitate the need to escape later? His d1 actions scream the opposite of his day 2 actions, it's as simple as that. Mafia have no roleblocker and no vigilante so a cop and jailkeeper would be broken. | ||
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fuba
United States663 Posts
Actually, at that point, he did have plenty of votes on him already. Guess he could have just been acting the entire time. | ||
Mig
United States4714 Posts
On June 09 2015 17:29 Mig wrote: Chezy I don't think you actually think I am mafia. Your hatter claim is obviously bs, that role is too fun for you, 0 chance you forget about the game as a hatter. The only reason you are claiming I am mafia is because you are claiming that I am mafia team mates with marv and now am trying to save him. Really don't think you believe that. I guess that probably means you are mafia and now just spamming stuff you don't believe to distract the thread and cause chaos. This point is still accurate, chez wouldn't "forget" about a game he was a dt in. He's clearly just fucking around at this point. ##Vote Chezzy | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On June 10 2015 03:43 NaCl`y wrote: Well it doesn't matter what he did in regards to VA since all of his original thought posts are there to defend someone from something or another. His boxerfred stance was simply "I don't think he'd do this as mafia" and when I point to his filter in his other game that would say otherwise he exclaims that he has not read it but still maintains his point is correct. His stance on Chezinu now is still strange given that I've just shown his actions around the Artanis[Xp] and my jailkeeper claims and he still maintains he could be a cop. Damn you have a very good point about the DT/2 prot scenario. | ||
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fuba
United States663 Posts
On June 10 2015 03:43 Half the Sky wrote: And fuba, you are suggesting that's implying a redcheck? Yes. If I was in chez's place (assuming for the moment that chez is town), I'd assume that that message would be read as a red check on marv, in the event of my eventual flip as cop. | ||
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fuba
United States663 Posts
On June 10 2015 03:45 Mig wrote: This point is still accurate, chez wouldn't "forget" about a game he was a dt in. He's clearly just fucking around at this point. ##Vote Chezzy Bleh, that's a good point too. I'm just gonna give in on this one. | ||
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Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
Why would a cop even bother to say "there may be millers" if he's not going to defend himself before lynch? If you have a red check, 'reminding' people of a miller serves to only create wiggle room for scum!marv if he was actually redchecked. Just doesn't make sense to me | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On June 10 2015 03:48 fuba wrote: Yes. If I was in chez's place (assuming for the moment that chez is town), I'd assume that that message would be read as a red check on marv, in the event of my eventual flip as cop. Salty has a very good point though on potential setup issues here. The DT/2 prot claim. Secondly has Chez fakeclaimed as scum before? Or talked in clues trying to fakeclaim? You've looked at it from a town side, but did you consider the mafia side, I think Salty it was alluded to the rolecop possibility? Especially since the town gameplay largely isn't there. | ||
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