[M][N] I Still Can't Believe it's not Themed Mafia - Page 25

On June 16 2015 08:31 Mig wrote:
GG, modkills sucked but doubt that prplhz and hts were going to get lynched anyway. Thanks for hosting guys

My bad for tunneling JAT so hard.

On June 16 2015 08:34 Half the Sky wrote:


I thought of whether you'd ever catch me JAT. We were both scum in Void together. And I still have bad memories of that game. You know how badly I did but RL had a lot to do with that. Thankfully this go, work wasn't as bad.

But from that performance...I knew I could do better than that.

On June 16 2015 08:36 Mig wrote:
Well it didnt help that you never town read me at all. We were both being hard headed about where we both probably felt we should have been obvious town to the other.

On June 16 2015 08:40 Mig wrote:
You definitely played great hts, only chance you possibly get lynched would have been at lylo when people started to wonder how you could possibly be alive. As long as you end the game before then literally 0% chance you are lynched.

On June 16 2015 08:42 Mig wrote:
Also the game is over, I am trying to be nice you dont have to keep being so ridiculously egotistical.

On June 16 2015 08:46 Half the Sky wrote:


He was going to track you. I think we would have avoided it, as I would have probably delivered, and if he was nightkill, it was a moot point anyhow.

On June 16 2015 08:49 Half the Sky wrote:
Bugs/Mig, how long ago are you two from? I only started here Nov 2014.

On June 16 2015 08:50 Mig wrote:
@JAT you just said if you are universally town read I should listen, except people just did that to HTS and it was wrong. I am not just going to blindly follow others is my point ( marv said slam and prplhz were both town as well). So even if we had listened to marv still would have lost terribly.

On June 16 2015 08:50 Half the Sky wrote:


It was useless in the grand scheme of things, especially with no DT.

On June 16 2015 08:56 wherebugsgo wrote:


No, this does not mean anything of the sort.

This type of thinking is very dangerous and it is conducive to further games like this one. People are misread all the time for all sorts of reasons, it doesn't mean anything other than people are often wrong. Mig did not get lynched and there was no chance he'd get lynched despite some people not understanding how to read motivations correctly.

There wasn't a single lynch this game (and yes, I include the day 1 lynch) that actually had good motivations behind it. Day 1 was a fluke and the other days weren't, but in each situation town was basically clueless.

On June 16 2015 09:07 wherebugsgo wrote:


I don't think I'm wrong. Mig never had more than two votes aside from day 1 when he took 3 very early before he really did anything, one of which was from a scum player.

Town was very off, but there were too many lurky players and in this type of game anyone who gives half an effort will survive. That's actually pretty much the crux of the problem. Town had so little useful discussion and every lynch generated nothing other than lots of people parroting each others' opinions. The day 1 lynch was little more than a bandwagon on yamato who rolled over and died because he failed in defending himself and his scummates weren't around or motivated enough to defend him either, day 2 was a pure bandwagon on Chezinu, day 3 a bandwagon on fuba...you see where I'm going with this.

I understand you are not happy with the game but Mig is not the player you should be scrutinizing. Given the circumstances his play was fine.

On June 16 2015 09:13 Half the Sky wrote:
JAT, I won't speak for the others, but Boxerfred is new, this is his second game ever on TL and his first go at town, that. Let's be honest. I don't know about you, but I did nearly just as bad in my second game on TL...the only reason I was not lynched then was because I was a blue role.

Everyone has to start somewhere. That's all I'm saying.

On June 16 2015 09:14 wherebugsgo wrote:


The only thing that matters is votes. You may have thought that about town sentiment but it's fairly clear no one even knew who was on which team.

e: and I also have to disagree on BF's play. He played fine.

I will agree that there was much to be desired from the likes of Fuba, FF, VA, Artanis, etc. However at no point did anyone explain why those players were scum other than their lack of activity giving way to them having bad reads.

It's almost a given that people who don't participate will have bad reads regardless of alignment.

On June 16 2015 09:16 Half the Sky wrote:


I know JAT spotted a weakness in my posts which I did catch on to and I knew I'd have to step it up in 3-2 lylo otherwise a good town player could corner me. But if you had any additional input for me I'd appreciate it.

Only issue is that I know dick all how to play framer, not much better at blue sniping either, I assume you just frame the scummy lurkers just like a DT should check the scummy lurkers but of course everyone checks differently.... >_<

I had zero clue JAT was tracker. Ugh, fail.

On June 16 2015 09:20 prplhz wrote:
can't really demand much more from a townie than that he keeps active and boxerfred did just that, no idea what the problem is.

On June 16 2015 09:25 Mig wrote:


You and marv being so harsh on him I am sure effected his motivation to post. Can say in an ideal world everybody should fight to the end but I think for new players especially if they are just getting constantly beat on they are more inclined to just give up.

I am not saying boxer is faultless but we as town should have fostered a better environment for him to want to contribute.