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On June 06 2015 08:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2015 08:02 justanothertownie wrote:On June 06 2015 07:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 06 2015 07:58 justanothertownie wrote:On June 06 2015 07:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 06 2015 07:54 justanothertownie wrote:On June 06 2015 07:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 06 2015 07:47 justanothertownie wrote:On June 06 2015 07:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 06 2015 07:44 justanothertownie wrote:
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Why would you ever think that? Why would he ever point that out if he really thinks that? As town he would never point it out if he thinks it is a crumb. As scum he would also never do it and instead just kill you. I mean AFTER he points it out it should be obvious to anyone that knows my alignment for CERTAIN as I've already mentioned I think marv is town. No. Why on earth would that be obvious? Just no. People seem to pick up on way less and I never read blues well so yeah. On June 06 2015 07:47 NaCl`y wrote:On June 06 2015 07:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 06 2015 07:42 justanothertownie wrote:
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Noone would ever make the connectionof lock = jail. Are you kidding me.
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Yeah, yes. There are never ever both jk and doctor in a 13 player mini with scum having 1 KP. NEVER. How does lock and jail not make sense together? When marv pointed it out so strongly I figured it was obvious. At no point did you ever mention the word jail. Marvellosity had only ever mentioned that your usage of the word lock did not make sense with the phrase that you had said beforehand in regards to Mig. It is facetious that you could make us believe that mafia would be "onto you" from that phrase alone. The phrase jail had never existed with your posts up until you had claimed jailkeeper. Believe it or not, it's what I believed at the time and I still think it's likely I would've been found. There was also a certain amount of yolo involved given how slow the thread was going and I was bored. There is no reason to claim now if you think you would have been found. 0 reason. The only possible reason to claim is if you really thought you were getting lynched and I refuse to believe that a guy that has never been mislynched thinks he cannot avoid the lynch when he has 1 vote half way through day1. If you think you have maybe been found out you claim at the end of night 1 maybe but not earlier in case you have NOT been found out. There is no upside to claiming in your position as town. Sure there is; eliminating myself from the lynch pool and discussion so we can talk about people that can actually be mafia. Plus it caused the thread to actually get out of the drag. You are not bad enough to think that this is justification enough to claim this role. Nope. It is when you add in the fact that I thought and still think mafia knew already at that point. Whether you believe that or not is up to you. I don't. Then vote me and be done with it. I've explained it from my side and if that doesn't convince you then there's no point continuing this exchange.
Sounds like a plan.
##Vote: Artanis[Xp]
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On June 06 2015 08:03 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2015 08:01 prplhz wrote:On June 06 2015 08:00 yamato77 wrote:On June 06 2015 07:57 justanothertownie wrote:On June 06 2015 07:53 yamato77 wrote:On June 06 2015 07:48 justanothertownie wrote:On June 06 2015 07:46 yamato77 wrote:
Okay, JAT, we'll make assumptions about a closed setup and then blame balance and stupid hosting postgame when you're wrong and you lynched a fucking protective role that wasn't even directly counterclaimed.
Why should I not believe Artanis' claim? And unless NaCl is literally suicidal, why the fuck would he do this as mafia? You need to answer these questions rather than just scream your assumptions in the thread. Yes, doing this would be suicidal as NaCl. That's why we are lynching Artanis who made a claim that as town made no fucking sense at all and outed a powerrole in the process. It makes a lot of sense if you believe he's just fucking mafia. The crumb is obvious, and not something I think scum Artanis does very often. Town Artanis feels pressured, town Artanis feels like his role is outed anyway, so he claims. Is it really such a difficult sequence of events to understand? If NaCl IS town and he IS doctor, he's a fucking idiot for "counterclaiming" in a closed setup in the first place. If you don't believe Artanis' claim, MAKE GOOD POINTS ABOUT IT, DON'T "COUNTERCLAIM" WITH A DIFFERENT ROLE THAN THE ONE BEING CLAIMED It's fucking asinine that you're going along with this as well. Is town JAT honestly this fucking stupid to want to lynch into obvious claims? It is literally irrelevant if NaCl is an idiot or not. Artanis claim makes 0 sense from a town pov. The crumb is not obvious at all. Look, Artanis shouldn't have claimed when he did, but the crumb is quite obviously a crumb in hindsight If you don't think it's a crumb now, I don't know what to tell you i guess it's a crumb since he's hardclaiming it to be a crumb but i would never have guessed that lol it's not really about whether anyone perceived it to be a crumb or not in the first place it's about it obviously being something that was out of place in the given context, which was then claimed to be a crumb. kinda makes sense, no? Unless you believe mafia artanis is either: 1) fakeclaiming with an awful crumb or 2) covering his ass by making up a claim out of some odd sentence he posted
I don't know, I wasn't convinced by marvellosity's initial argument that it was out of place. It sort of looked like that but Artanis[Xp]'s posts often look like that? Like NaCl´y, their posts look like they want to be a little smarter than they actually are and that sometimes look a little odd. I don't know what I think about Artanis[Xp]. A d1 hard claim to start discussion? I don't know lol. I need to think about this claim business.
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On June 06 2015 08:03 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2015 08:01 justanothertownie wrote:On June 06 2015 08:00 yamato77 wrote:On June 06 2015 07:57 justanothertownie wrote:On June 06 2015 07:53 yamato77 wrote:On June 06 2015 07:48 justanothertownie wrote:On June 06 2015 07:46 yamato77 wrote:
Okay, JAT, we'll make assumptions about a closed setup and then blame balance and stupid hosting postgame when you're wrong and you lynched a fucking protective role that wasn't even directly counterclaimed.
Why should I not believe Artanis' claim? And unless NaCl is literally suicidal, why the fuck would he do this as mafia? You need to answer these questions rather than just scream your assumptions in the thread. Yes, doing this would be suicidal as NaCl. That's why we are lynching Artanis who made a claim that as town made no fucking sense at all and outed a powerrole in the process. It makes a lot of sense if you believe he's just fucking mafia. The crumb is obvious, and not something I think scum Artanis does very often. Town Artanis feels pressured, town Artanis feels like his role is outed anyway, so he claims. Is it really such a difficult sequence of events to understand? If NaCl IS town and he IS doctor, he's a fucking idiot for "counterclaiming" in a closed setup in the first place. If you don't believe Artanis' claim, MAKE GOOD POINTS ABOUT IT, DON'T "COUNTERCLAIM" WITH A DIFFERENT ROLE THAN THE ONE BEING CLAIMED It's fucking asinine that you're going along with this as well. Is town JAT honestly this fucking stupid to want to lynch into obvious claims? It is literally irrelevant if NaCl is an idiot or not. Artanis claim makes 0 sense from a town pov. The crumb is not obvious at all. Look, Artanis shouldn't have claimed when he did, but the crumb is quite obviously a crumb in hindsight If you don't think it's a crumb now, I don't know what to tell you No, it is just not obviously a crumb in hindsight. then what else is it, exactly? how do you interpret his crumb claim if he's mafia?
On June 06 2015 08:03 yamato77 wrote:
2) covering his ass by making up a claim out of some odd sentence he posted
Look, I already explained why this claim makes no sense as town. It DOES make sense as mafia though. I can never see town Artanis be sure about getting lynched in his situation but for mafia Artanis I can. What he achieved by claiming is outing our protective role which is already pretty good and if people like you get their will he might even survive the day.
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Or alternatively we might not even have a protective role and he can just cruise as long as we do not lynch him.
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Fine, JAT, obviously you don't listen to me, so you can have your way.
I will have no part in this lynch however.
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@FecalFeast
Since you are around and are a point of contention. Can you weigh in on these claims?
Also, why is it that you complain about the state of the game earlier but then make no attempt to change that whatsoever?
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On June 06 2015 07:35 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2015 04:51 yamato77 wrote:
fecal is right tho, game is pretty boring
until BF does something that looks even remotely townie, I'm content sitting on the idea of lynching him,
you lazy fucks can do the scumhunting this game, I'm uninspired. nah bro Imma be content with sitting here and reading and spreading the love
like, this is what this dude has to say about everything that's happened in the game so far
and you idiots are lynching into claims in a closed setup
fucking LOL
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On June 06 2015 08:09 NaCl`y wrote:
@FecalFeast
Since you are around and are a point of contention. Can you weigh in on these claims?
Also, why is it that you complain about the state of the game earlier but then make no attempt to change that whatsoever?
I think I agree with JAT that artanis' claim is only worth it if mafia thinks they've been found out. As town idk why he would claim there and believed it was a joke so completely that I counterclaimed him to join in on the fun. I think you claim is ass all around.
I complain while making no effort because that's what my brain tells my fingers to do.
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On June 06 2015 08:10 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2015 07:35 boxerfred wrote:On June 06 2015 04:51 yamato77 wrote:
fecal is right tho, game is pretty boring
until BF does something that looks even remotely townie, I'm content sitting on the idea of lynching him,
you lazy fucks can do the scumhunting this game, I'm uninspired. nah bro Imma be content with sitting here and reading and spreading the love like, this is what this dude has to say about everything that's happened in the game so far and you idiots are lynching into claims in a closed setup fucking LOL
Wow I skimmed right over that.
Boxerfries are you lurking right now?
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On June 06 2015 08:12 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2015 08:09 NaCl`y wrote:
@FecalFeast
Since you are around and are a point of contention. Can you weigh in on these claims?
Also, why is it that you complain about the state of the game earlier but then make no attempt to change that whatsoever? I think I agree with JAT that artanis' claim is only worth it if mafia thinks they've been found out. As town idk why he would claim there and believed it was a joke so completely that I counterclaimed him to join in on the fun. I think you claim is ass all around. I complain while making no effort because that's what my brain tells my fingers to do.
So why is my claim "ass" if it has given us a mafia? Since you weren't voting or implied no intention to vote for Artanis[Xp] it seemed like you were quite content to sit back and let him lie on his claim while putting in no effort to weigh in on it until asked.
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Your claim could have been a trump card rather than an opening salvo. You outed yourself before even seeing where thread direction went.
I am quite content to sit back by the way, don't worry.
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On June 06 2015 08:14 NaCl`y wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2015 08:12 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 06 2015 08:09 NaCl`y wrote:
@FecalFeast
Since you are around and are a point of contention. Can you weigh in on these claims?
Also, why is it that you complain about the state of the game earlier but then make no attempt to change that whatsoever? I think I agree with JAT that artanis' claim is only worth it if mafia thinks they've been found out. As town idk why he would claim there and believed it was a joke so completely that I counterclaimed him to join in on the fun. I think you claim is ass all around. I complain while making no effort because that's what my brain tells my fingers to do. So why is my claim "ass" if it has given us a mafia? Since you weren't voting or implied no intention to vote for Artanis[Xp] it seemed like you were quite content to sit back and let him lie on his claim while putting in no effort to weigh in on it until asked.
If I am to read this post correctly.
It seems that if you need prompting to discuss situations that are so prevalent it means you are mafia. That looks increasingly like what you are doing this game.
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On June 06 2015 08:17 NaCl`y wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2015 08:14 NaCl`y wrote:On June 06 2015 08:12 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 06 2015 08:09 NaCl`y wrote:
@FecalFeast
Since you are around and are a point of contention. Can you weigh in on these claims?
Also, why is it that you complain about the state of the game earlier but then make no attempt to change that whatsoever? I think I agree with JAT that artanis' claim is only worth it if mafia thinks they've been found out. As town idk why he would claim there and believed it was a joke so completely that I counterclaimed him to join in on the fun. I think you claim is ass all around. I complain while making no effort because that's what my brain tells my fingers to do. So why is my claim "ass" if it has given us a mafia? Since you weren't voting or implied no intention to vote for Artanis[Xp] it seemed like you were quite content to sit back and let him lie on his claim while putting in no effort to weigh in on it until asked. If I am to read this post correctly. It seems that if you need prompting to discuss situations that are so prevalent it means you are mafia. That looks increasingly like what you are doing this game.
then hop on my wagon bro, got seat right next to me here
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On June 06 2015 08:24 Fecalfeast wrote:
wait that's not me
lol
FecalAuthority
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I thought the post was about me but it is about fuba.
Fubafeast
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The Artanis[Xp] town narrative of him getting his crumb outed and scum read and then he gets frustrated and proceeds to hard claim and martyr is really bad but it's sort of consistent? NaCl`y, I don't know who he is but I wouldn't put it beyond him to fake counterclaim. It's been done a couple of times lately and maybe he's smurfing to... do stuff. Not to just sit on his hands.
Are people really that sure that there can't be two protectiveish roles in this game? I guess we have to deal with this at some point but reading both of them and ignoring the claim business I'm not reading any of them in any direction.
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I need someone to make sense of this to me.
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Ok, tell me:
1) Why would scum NaCl counterclaim if they can shoot town artanis in the night?
2) How on earth does Artanis play make sense from a town pov? Do you think he is usually a pretty stupid guy?
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