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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 16 2015 01:30 GMT
#2381
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I come in for the scraps
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
June 16 2015 01:32 GMT
#2382
On June 16 2015 10:30 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2015 10:28 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 16 2015 10:27 Holyflare wrote:
normally yeh

i mean i read the game a bit and he was super up front about all of his shit and mafia just sat back for the most part

Yes, if town does not play then mafia can sit back. That's how this game works.


that's like... the opposite of what i said ya know?

Somewhat, but even if you think bf DID play during the day he was lynched (we will disagree there ya know?) that is still what happened this game.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 16 2015 01:35 GMT
#2383
On June 16 2015 10:18 NaCl`y wrote:
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On June 16 2015 09:48 NaCl`y wrote:
That one was of course simply the product of Artanis deciding to role claim for whatever reason, which I am still baffled about. I am also really baffled about NaCl'y counter-claiming him, which I think contributed nothing except wasting a bunch of time.


I am not sure this is quite accurate though. Like you say, the Artanis[Xp]'s claim was entirely atrocious but he is perfectly capable of something like that as mafia. You could see from opinions in the thread that this was entirely possible and very well speculated. The claim not only helped clear up that Artanis[Xp] was town from his reactions (since as mafia he would almost certainly, like he said, back down or just afk from the game) but led to many revealing reactions. You say Yamato77 was lynched because he didn't fight back but his reaction was by far the worst out of the ones that I saw and his pointing out how obvious the crumbs were are not something that I would ever (in my opinion) see from a town Yamato77. His fighting back would be futile.


I'm interested why you would classify this as useless discussion specifically.


I think there were far more obvious clues that Artanis was town and that yamato was scum, and no such claim was necessary. Yamato died because he and his team failed to capitalize on the situation, and I think in that type of situation lots of people had the potential to die.

You risked losing two or more townies in the process if it didn't pay off, because if people had decided to lynch Artanis instead of yamato (certainly possible) they would've ended up lynching you afterward. This didn't happen for obvious reasons, particularly because scum decided to shoot Artanis (which was the correct decision after they lost the strongman KP) but had yamato lived they had nothing to fear from a JK because they had a KP that went through protects.

wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-16 01:39:17
June 16 2015 01:38 GMT
#2384
btw I used a simple python script to roll the role assignments

http://pastebin.com/5AKFa7xK
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 16 2015 06:14 GMT
#2385
JAT

You need to care less

JAT

Chill
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 16 2015 06:17 GMT
#2386
On June 16 2015 08:00 Mig wrote:
if it turns out we lose right here jat and you are town and boxer is town I am going to blame you and marv at least partially for driving boxer to insanity

As the scummer who observed I can testify
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 16 2015 06:18 GMT
#2387
On June 16 2015 08:07 Mig wrote:
I spent like 30 hours on this game and you sabotage it to screw jat and you dont even know for sure hes town?

This is a legit point, I did not know about this

Boxer. Plz. Waoow.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 16 2015 06:22 GMT
#2388
On June 16 2015 08:37 wherebugsgo wrote:
well played to the mafia team, I had a series of notes on my home PC that I was keeping up to date until day 2 but I don't think any analysis would've helped beyond that. Also I cannot access these until about Monday next week since I am not at home.

I think it was actually really lucky of town to lynch yamato day 1, and I had concerns that scum would suffer by not taking advantage of the huge opportunities they had day 1 to control town. Had they done that I think it would've been a flawless victory without even yamato dying, but in the end they did not (IMO) really need to do much because town didn't really have a good direction from the get-go.

The Alakaslam replacement and the modkill(s) sucked but in the end town suffered from much more than the inactivity of just those players. Mafia thrive in such an environment without any real effort on their own and it really showed here.

I will be seeking a 1 game ban for each of the following 3 players:

Alakaslam
Fuba
FecalFeast

as per my rules. Alakaslam's case, while he got replaced, was very avoidable. He knew going into the game that he may not be able to complete the game and despite me being able to replace him I still think it is unacceptable to join a game and not commit to it as per the rules. He also failed to vote a second time day 1. Fuba was lynched but failed to vote, and FecalFeast also failed to vote.

If there are any concerns/questions please let me know.

Yup, I agree

Not only did I sign up with awareness that I was on a course wait list, I booted another player for it.

Extremely selfish and thoughtless, and my apologies
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 16 2015 07:45 GMT
#2389
Let's say it like this: I learned a lot . Looking forward to the next game.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 16 2015 07:47 GMT
#2390
Also, Mig: I did want to screw the game by coming in 10 minutes before EoD. It was more a mixture of having no time whatsoever anyways plus being frustrated. It was not a "fuck you people" move.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
June 16 2015 10:34 GMT
#2391
you forgot a "not"???
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 16 2015 10:50 GMT
#2392
erm yes lol.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 16 2015 10:54 GMT
#2393
Also guys, thanks for the motivation post-game! Really cool stuff

justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
June 16 2015 11:49 GMT
#2394
On June 16 2015 15:14 Alakaslam wrote:
JAT

You need to care less

JAT

Chill

It's fine. Care already reduced to a minimum. I just get annoyed easily when people outside the game start trying to tell you how easy the game was. I mean bugs and HF would of course not have mislynched boxer and won the game in my position ezpz.

@Boxer: sorry, for being rough on you but that is the price for joining a non newbie game without ever having played a towngame. I mean I respect that choice (I did the same when I was new) but you can't expect people to go easy on you because of that. You probably learned your lessons. No hard feelings.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
June 16 2015 14:59 GMT
#2395
I also apologize to town for my performance this game - this was easily one of the worst games I ever played for multiple reasons and I am fully aware of that. I am not talking about myself being a dick btw. I might have gone slightly overboard but I still feel that there was no situation where it wasn't justified.

Not that any townplayer really played a good game knowing who was scum - we just got owned pretty hard.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 16 2015 15:02 GMT
#2396
On June 16 2015 20:49 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2015 15:14 Alakaslam wrote:
JAT

You need to care less

JAT

Chill

@Boxer: sorry, for being rough on you but that is the price for joining a non newbie game without ever having played a towngame. I mean I respect that choice (I did the same when I was new) but you can't expect people to go easy on you because of that. You probably learned your lessons. No hard feelings.

I think what I can take with me from this game is basically to never, ever get emotional. I terribly failed at doing so and every day, I got myself deeper into it. No hard feelings here, too, not at all. Let's see how I'll be playing up in the Himalaya mountains.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-16 16:34:05
June 16 2015 16:33 GMT
#2397
I think getting emotional is a good sign a player cares, actually.

It's obviously not the greatest position to be in because it really sucks when a game doesn't go well and you feel like everyone is against you, but at the very least it shows you care about the game and the outcome.

e: and I do not mean this from a read perspective, just from the perspective of "is this player committed to playing mafia"
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 17 2015 13:07 GMT
#2398
well i got this one spectacularly wrong.

woops.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
June 17 2015 14:11 GMT
#2399
On June 17 2015 22:07 marvellosity wrote:
well i got this one spectacularly wrong.

woops.

Yes, we all did.

Godly slam read you got there ^^
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 17 2015 17:08 GMT
#2400
shitshow town! gj mafia
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