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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 14 2015 13:34 GMT
#2093
Who was never pressured by JAT?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 14 2015 13:52 GMT
#2101
On June 14 2015 22:48 Half the Sky wrote:
The other thing to consider is if BF flips town, could there be an element of TMI in VA hard defending him? Especially in light of all the evidence presented.

I had the same thought
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 14 2015 13:53 GMT
#2102
On June 14 2015 22:49 justanothertownie wrote:
I never called FF scum I just disputed the townreads on him. I never pushed marv. I never pushed salty. The only reason I pushed Artanis was the cc.
And even if I had pushed everyone at some point - so what? That's not exactly what scum wants to do. So what is your point bf?

I'll try to set up a list of all players alive and the pushes that came. Maybe we'll get something out of this.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 15 2015 18:02 GMT
#2128
I am currently creating the push (google doc) file. I will use the following

Red - hard scumread
Orange - soft scumread
Green - strong townread
light green - soft townread
no color - null read (an explicit post saying "I don't know")

I might expand those colours. Gimme an hour or two..
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 15 2015 18:30 GMT
#2129
well WIP:

clickme
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 15 2015 19:02 GMT
#2137
okay, I'm at the top of page 29 by now. Gonna continue if I find the time, still gotta cook and eat and so on.

Thus far, I'm really into reading Mig as scum for his D1. The initial case from (confirmed town) Salty was decent, he only [url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/486819-i-still-cant-believe-its-not-themed-mafia?page=28#553]pushes a little bit on Yamato while hard-pushing (and voting) Fecalfeast[/rl]. At this point, Salty's case was already up. Might very well be a try to get attention off of yam. You can take from the table that he made a wishy washy read on prhplz, and, much more important, [url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/486819-i-still-cant-believe-its-not-themed-mafia?page=23#460]is fine with lynching artanis[/url] while admitting that "he might be bsing". Then, he asks Artanis to give reads which [url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/486819-i-still-cant-believe-its-not-themed-mafia?page=17#337]Artanis had already done at this point. [/url]

If I then take the cases into consideration that have been brought up already on Mig, I think my vote is good on him.

##unvote ##vote Mig

more to come.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 15 2015 19:02 GMT
#2138
okay fuck formatting
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 15 2015 19:03 GMT
#2139
okay, I'm at the top of page 29 by now. Gonna continue if I find the time, still gotta cook and eat and so on.

Thus far, I'm really into reading Mig as scum for his D1. The initial case from (confirmed town) Salty was decent, he only pushes a little bit on Yamato while hard-pushing (and voting) Fecalfeast. At this point, Salty's case was already up. Might very well be a try to get attention off of yam. You can take from the table that he made a wishy washy read on prhplz, and, much more important, is fine with lynching artanis while admitting that "he might be bsing"[/url]. Then, he asks Artanis to give reads which Artanis had already done at this point.

If I then take the cases into consideration that have been brought up already on Mig, I think my vote is good on him.

##unvote ##vote Mig

more to come.

boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 15 2015 19:05 GMT
#2141
On June 16 2015 03:42 Half the Sky wrote:
When you have the time, can you explain why you voted fuba yesterday (the votes only got closer I believe after you AFKed)?

I had almost no time to read so I voted off of a feeling to not get modkilled. I gut-felt that fuba was under pressure and decided that my vote would not get him killed, thus it'd be safe to put pressure on him too without actually killing him.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 15 2015 19:05 GMT
#2142
##unvote ##vote Mig
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 15 2015 19:06 GMT
#2144
On June 16 2015 03:48 Fecalfeast wrote:
OHHHHHH

I think I get it.

it's a compilation of everyone's scumreads

This is actually pointless

..and town reads and null reads


bro stop killing my motivation, this has already been a shitload of work
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 15 2015 19:06 GMT
#2145
On June 16 2015 04:06 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2015 03:48 Fecalfeast wrote:
OHHHHHH

I think I get it.

it's a compilation of everyone's scumreads

This is actually pointless

..and town reads and null reads


bro stop killing my motivation, this has already been a shitload of work

also I'm bolding out reads that feel important to me. Plus, I'm commenting on stuff so I guess it helps you to find out about my alignment.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 15 2015 20:20 GMT
#2150
On June 16 2015 05:02 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2015 04:15 Half the Sky wrote:
On June 16 2015 04:05 boxerfred wrote:
On June 16 2015 03:42 Half the Sky wrote:
When you have the time, can you explain why you voted fuba yesterday (the votes only got closer I believe after you AFKed)?

I had almost no time to read so I voted off of a feeling to not get modkilled. I gut-felt that fuba was under pressure and decided that my vote would not get him killed, thus it'd be safe to put pressure on him too without actually killing him.


I don't understand the logic here.

You could have voted for anyone so that you would not get modkilled.

How does fuba - or anyone - being under pressure - alone, make them scum?

There are things such as pressure votes, but pressure votes generally have a purpose.

So let me ask you this - putting into context your lack of time - if you had had the time to re-evaluate, what would (you have wanted) your vote on fuba to achieve?

The bolded is actually total bullshit. Fuba was clearly the only other player that could be lynched realistically and bf tries to sell that he voted him because he wasn't likely to die. Complete and utter bullshit.

ok fuck it I'm out of here
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 15 2015 20:43 GMT
#2153
On June 16 2015 05:02 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2015 04:15 Half the Sky wrote:
On June 16 2015 04:05 boxerfred wrote:
On June 16 2015 03:42 Half the Sky wrote:
When you have the time, can you explain why you voted fuba yesterday (the votes only got closer I believe after you AFKed)?

I had almost no time to read so I voted off of a feeling to not get modkilled. I gut-felt that fuba was under pressure and decided that my vote would not get him killed, thus it'd be safe to put pressure on him too without actually killing him.


I don't understand the logic here.

You could have voted for anyone so that you would not get modkilled.

How does fuba - or anyone - being under pressure - alone, make them scum?

There are things such as pressure votes, but pressure votes generally have a purpose.

So let me ask you this - putting into context your lack of time - if you had had the time to re-evaluate, what would (you have wanted) your vote on fuba to achieve?

The bolded is actually total bullshit. Fuba was clearly the only other player that could be lynched realistically and bf tries to sell that he voted him because he wasn't likely to die. Complete and utter bullshit.

like what in "I HAD ALMOST NO TIME TO READ" did you not understand?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 15 2015 20:46 GMT
#2154
ah w/e I'm the fuck out of here
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 15 2015 20:55 GMT
#2156
On June 16 2015 05:29 Mig wrote:
boxer I dont get it are you voting for me just because of what you saw up till page 29? What about the rest of the game? If I am scum who is the other member?


I was simply going through what I found out and decided that those were legit points that were not disproved.

On June 16 2015 05:31 Mig wrote:
Also yea there were only 2 people who had votes and you voted for the other guy with the reasoning he wasn't likely to die lol?

I. Had. No. Time. To. Read.

boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 15 2015 20:59 GMT
#2159
just lynch me to end all the confusion coming off me, okay? better than having a stupid standoff with me as potential scum.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 15 2015 20:59 GMT
#2160
i screwed up several times, played a terrible game, and there is no point to it anymore.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 15 2015 22:49 GMT
#2199
On June 16 2015 05:58 Mig wrote:
Ok but that is page 29..... We are 110 pages in. Also NAc's case against me was terrible, my last mafia game was 4 years ago trying to use meta from that is retarded. So trying to use that as your main reason for voting me is insanely dumb.

Like boxer it is clear this game you have just been making a ton of shit up. Unfortunately that doesn't guarantee you are mafia, townies make shit up too.

What I want is some actual honest thoughts from you. Like you have read this entire game havent you? You really believe I am mafia based on a case nac made at the beginning of day1? You don't have any original thoughts on anything that has happened yourself?

Yes, I have read the game. Yes, I believe you are mafia because nacl made a case on you, also for the other reasons I said in my post, plus the impression I got when you pushed on DIS and the stuff that was brought up on you. No, I don't have any original thoughts.

On June 16 2015 05:31 Mig wrote:
Also yea there were only 2 people who had votes and you voted for the other guy with the reasoning he wasn't likely to die lol?

Yes.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 15 2015 22:50 GMT
#2201
I think that it would actually be a good idea to look at the players that did not activelytry to get me lynched.

At this point you a) believe me that I'm town or b) lynch me, there's not much I can do.
I'd locate scum at Mig/phrplz/FF, HtS is my top town read, I'm not sure about JAT but I can see him being town too.


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