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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
June 06 2015 16:55 GMT
#541
Fuck that formatting.
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
June 06 2015 16:57 GMT
#542
I don't really have enough time to consider all this new information, but I'll throw down my cursory thoughts.

I'm not going to concern myself too much with marv. I don't know how to read him, and his play as either alignment is beyond my ability to scumhunt. I see him as one of those players who's either dead in the first few nights or lives all game and is eventually lynched as scum. That being said, I kinda expected his vote to switch off me when I started participating, with the vote returning on D2 if I don't keep it up.

As far as yamato goes, I actually felt somewhat similarly to him regarding the crumb. In retrospect, from Artanis's POV, someone specifically (but presumably accidentally) pointing out that crumb might make me believe that it's now incredibly obvious to mafia. I even kinda related to him when he basically said "do what you want, I'm not gonna be a part of this lynch".

@NaCl: what's the major difference between yamato's reaction and my own?

@marv: How do you feel about NaCl's boxerfred read?

@boxerfred: I can't read your post atm, gotta get to work. Will do it though~
@theRealMkfuba07
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
June 06 2015 16:57 GMT
#543
On June 07 2015 01:47 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2015 01:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
You're saying this level of involvement is par for the course for town marv?

i'm saying my reactions or otherwise to the claims are nothing to do with my level of involvement

Is it weird that your level of involvement concerns me far less then your reaction to the claims? :p
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
June 06 2015 16:59 GMT
#544
On June 07 2015 01:54 NaCl`y wrote:
So your intention is to flail around like a stroppy child?

Duly noted.

To everyone else. I think my points on Yamato77 are pretty good. He saw that 2 townies had claimed roles and was not hesitant in the slightest about believing Artanis[Xp]'s wildly (to me at least) strange breadcrumb but then also believed that I was a towny too. His first reaction to me outing my role was in fact:

Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 07:34 yamato77 wrote:
you're a fucking idiot


which doesn't display any kind of hesitance for my alignment either. I think he was dealing with too much information and made that known with his responses to the entire situation. Please vote for him with me.

Though this... this might change my mind.

Will think about it. Time for work XD
@theRealMkfuba07
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
June 06 2015 17:07 GMT
#545
People keep giving me money in poker whilst I'm trying to read the thread. Most annoying.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
June 06 2015 17:15 GMT
#546
I don't think I agree on the Yamato thing though. I believed your claim and I knew mine was genuine, so I'm not sure you can use it to judge him so harshly. If Yamato is mafia, he should be confounded at both claims just as much since 2 medic-ish claims should sound just as weird to mafia as town, especially if mafia doesn't have any additional kp or more than one RBer. I don't think him believing the claims makes him scum.
NaCl`y
Profile Joined June 2015
131 Posts
June 06 2015 17:17 GMT
#547
On June 07 2015 02:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I don't think I agree on the Yamato thing though. I believed your claim and I knew mine was genuine, so I'm not sure you can use it to judge him so harshly. If Yamato is mafia, he should be confounded at both claims just as much since 2 medic-ish claims should sound just as weird to mafia as town, especially if mafia doesn't have any additional kp or more than one RBer. I don't think him believing the claims makes him scum.


Yes, of course from your position of knowing that you are a jailkeeper the claim would look legitimate. You have the too much information I am talking about too. I had no reason to counterclaim you as mafia. Yamato would see us both as town claiming these roles but he wouldn't know for sure if there were these 2 roles at all. Unless he had that too much information too.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 06 2015 17:42 GMT
#548
On June 07 2015 01:54 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2015 01:46 boxerfred wrote:
On June 06 2015 23:26 fuba wrote:

On June 06 2015 16:34 prplhz wrote:
@fuba What do you think about marvellosity's read on boxerfred?

The read where he says bf's opening sounds different than bf's newbie mafia game? I think it sounds like barely a read. Is that supposed to dissuade me from thinking he could be scum?

On June 05 2015 20:40 boxerfred wrote:
On June 05 2015 18:10 Mig wrote:
boxerfred what do you think of me? Fecal?

Is your vote for yamato a serious one? You believe he's most likely to be scum just because he voted you?

No thought on you or fecal thus far

On yamato? Given that he lurks, only to make a vote on me, only to leave another short, lurky comment? Yeah could very well be. That's not too solid however. I tend to no-vote currently.

I think I'd prefer to lynch this guy. Gives reasons to see yamato as scummy>says yamato could be scummy>backs off on it>prefers no-lynch over guy he thinks could be scum. I mean, I understand wishy-washiness better than anyone, but he definitely seems to just be coasting by. Like... if he'd really given enough thought to preferring a no-lynch over a yamato lynch, why didn't he then switch his vote? He seems to just be saying things to say things, giving the appearance of participation, and disappearing.

##Vote boxerfred

Gotta get some sleep, but I'll get up an hour or two early to read/talk.

Holy shit, I hate this post. Especially the bolded.

Case in point.

Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 20:05 boxerfred wrote:
On June 06 2015 19:19 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 15:59 fuba wrote:
Sorry, I was really out of it today.

First, regarding the claims... I can't find a reason to really disbelieve NaCl's claim. Was at least leaning town on him before it (mostly because of the case that people seem to agree seems accurate, though I haven't had the time to look into mig's previous games myself). That being said, I can't really decide what to make of Artanis's claim. My instinct is to believe him, though that instinct has bitten me in the ass before. Like prplhz said, his story does have a consistency to it that leads me to believe he's telling the truth. The fact that prplhz's view suddenly seemed to flip on the subject makes me... uncomfortable.

On June 05 2015 20:40 boxerfred wrote:
On June 05 2015 18:10 Mig wrote:
boxerfred what do you think of me? Fecal?

Is your vote for yamato a serious one? You believe he's most likely to be scum just because he voted you?

No thought on you or fecal thus far

On yamato? Given that he lurks, only to make a vote on me, only to leave another short, lurky comment? Yeah could very well be. That's not too solid however. I tend to no-vote currently.

I think I'd prefer to lynch this guy. Gives reasons to see yamato as scummy>says yamato could be scummy>backs off on it>prefers no-lynch over guy he thinks could be scum. I mean, I understand wishy-washiness better than anyone, but he definitely seems to just be coasting by. Like... if he'd really given enough thought to preferring a no-lynch over a yamato lynch, why didn't he then switch his vote? He seems to just be saying things to say things, giving the appearance of participation, and disappearing.

##Vote boxerfred

Gotta get some sleep, but I'll get up an hour or two early to read/talk.

Holy shit, I hate this post. Especially the bolded.

well I said "I tend to no-lynch" not that I would do it straight away. Fuba why so hard on me when I push yamato the slightiest?

Also ignoring what I said, and simply suggesting that the entire thing is a defense of yamato.

brb shower



I'm indeed ignoring what you're saying since I don't feel like it has any ground. I don't exactly understand why you say that a "tend to no-lynch" after saying "That guy might be scum" is scummy if it is not for some constructed reasons, trying to get a mis-lynch on a townie. I tend to no-lynch on D1 because it simply makes sense. The probability of hitting a town is way higher than hitting a scum member. I guess you know that. So while I have a scum read on yamato, that scum read is not built on like a rock solid ground but is more a first impression that I'll try to get a grip upon later on. Just like I did when I said "Why are you jumping on me, pulling attention on me instead of my read on yamato?" - Well, instead of replying to that, you just say "LOOK HE'S IGNORING MY WORDS", still shifting attention away from yamato (who seldomly posts anyways) to, oh look, me again.

So. You don't like the bolded part, alright? Well shame, deal with it. On D1, there's no evidence or indications of anything in general besides someone's posts. D1 is the day where (IMHO) scum can just lay back, chill the fuck out and jump on the first guy they feel is probably being mislynched. So BOOM ##unvote ##vote no-lynch until I find a case or create a case which seems to be worth a vote.

I might change my vote lateron though, I did not yet find the time to read through that Artanis story. Weekend with kids do that to people. [/QUOTE]
A no-lynch day1 is far worse for town than a mislynch. Just sayin.
[/QUOTE]
Why? Remember, 2nd time TL mafia here
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 06 2015 17:42 GMT
#549
still gotta follow up on the last pages -.-
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 06 2015 17:43 GMT
#550
On June 07 2015 02:17 NaCl`y wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2015 02:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I don't think I agree on the Yamato thing though. I believed your claim and I knew mine was genuine, so I'm not sure you can use it to judge him so harshly. If Yamato is mafia, he should be confounded at both claims just as much since 2 medic-ish claims should sound just as weird to mafia as town, especially if mafia doesn't have any additional kp or more than one RBer. I don't think him believing the claims makes him scum.


Yes, of course from your position of knowing that you are a jailkeeper the claim would look legitimate. You have the too much information I am talking about too. I had no reason to counterclaim you as mafia. Yamato would see us both as town claiming these roles but he wouldn't know for sure if there were these 2 roles at all. Unless he had that too much information too.

Or, I'm simply not a fucking idiot.
Writer@WriterYamato
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
June 06 2015 17:46 GMT
#551
Why is it generally hard (especially for new players) to find a good lynch day1? Because there is no hard information. If you no-lynch then you just postpone this problem towards day2 wasting not only a chance to kill scum (and lynching is the only way for town to do this generally) but also vital information from wagons.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
June 06 2015 17:54 GMT
#552
This game is boring...

Anyone want to play a game?
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
June 06 2015 18:06 GMT
#553
I am at a tourney so have to post from my phone the rest of the day, shitty.

What about fecal feast? Guy has been totally useless/awol the entire game. I cant read his past games but I assume he normally contributes more than this? He softly back pedled from lynching artanis with his post where he said how about we talk about something else but then didnt actually try to discuss anything. His only contribution so far was where he posted all the cases on people and said they sucked. Doesnt look like he gives a shit about actually finding mafia.

Yam is somewhat the same way. Normally from what I remember yam would have a hard on for someone he thinks is scum by now. Instead he just said lynching artanis was retarded while providing no alternative.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 06 2015 18:11 GMT
#554
I gave an alternative and no one listens to me.

I've had better things to do and today I have work. Enjoy finding a good lynch, I tried to do my part.
Writer@WriterYamato
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
June 06 2015 18:18 GMT
#555
You havent tried to do shit yam. Quit being emo.

If you are town then make a case.
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NaCl`y
Profile Joined June 2015
131 Posts
June 06 2015 18:30 GMT
#556
On June 07 2015 03:11 yamato77 wrote:
I gave an alternative and no one listens to me.

I've had better things to do and today I have work. Enjoy finding a good lynch, I tried to do my part.


Have you got nothing else to say in regards to what has happened this game that isn't boxerfred? There's a whole situation you've neglected to comment on.
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
June 06 2015 18:30 GMT
#557
JAT/nac/artanis who are you guys going to vote for? You are half assedly accusing marv are you voting him?

Marv you dont have anything to contribute besides defending yourself and lazily voting fuba? No other thoughts on who is potentially scum?

We have what like 6 hours or something till lynch and no clear target. Need to get this show on the road.

#vote fecalfeast
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NaCl`y
Profile Joined June 2015
131 Posts
June 06 2015 18:31 GMT
#558
On June 07 2015 03:30 Mig wrote:
JAT/nac/artanis who are you guys going to vote for? You are half assedly accusing marv are you voting him?

Marv you dont have anything to contribute besides defending yourself and lazily voting fuba? No other thoughts on who is potentially scum?

We have what like 6 hours or something till lynch and no clear target. Need to get this show on the road.

#vote fecalfeast


have you not read my big post and follow up thoughts? It quite clearly states that I'm voting for yamato.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
June 06 2015 18:33 GMT
#559
On June 07 2015 03:30 Mig wrote:
JAT/nac/artanis who are you guys going to vote for? You are half assedly accusing marv are you voting him?

Don't really know yet. Will think about in a while. I had hopes that people would maybe start doing things now on their own but apparently I was wrong.
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
June 06 2015 18:34 GMT
#560
Yea on my phone my bad. Just saw a lot of arguing with marv.

What do you think about fecal feast? Really dont have a problem with his play?
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