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batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 11 2015 20:58 GMT
#1239
##unvote
##vote Bill Murray
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 11 2015 21:37 GMT
#1261
I voted kick, freeze, breshke.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 11 2015 21:43 GMT
#1268
I appear to be in both lists. Would you guys like me to make the plan? lol
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 11 2015 21:51 GMT
#1273
On June 12 2015 06:47 Breshke wrote:
Bats you arnt in both lists. People in the first lists are voting you


oh ok. Yeah we can do this.

Mafia can also concede to save time.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 11 2015 21:53 GMT
#1279
On June 12 2015 06:52 wherebugsgo wrote:
btw the following day we could repeat the plan and just move the players around. e.g. say we figured the scum had to be in List B. We know one of Shockeyy/Onegu is almost certainly mafia, we just lynch one and dump the other one onto a voting list with 2-3 confirmed townies (depending on how many players are alive). Then that would confirm them as scum if the opposite list ended up winning (and we can move some of the other players around a bit too)





pretty much this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_search_algorithm
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 11 2015 21:57 GMT
#1287
Onegu #1 MVP for life
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 11 2015 22:04 GMT
#1298
On June 12 2015 07:03 Onegu wrote:
My reads are AMAZING. Dont kill my ego.


He's just salty that your reads are better than his.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 12 2015 23:30 GMT
#1336
Assuming everyone followed the rules, mafia is in Onegu, Shockeyy, batsnacks, or FrozenFoot.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 00:33 GMT
#1353
Well I'll blaspheme Onegu and yamato can rodent shocky and then... the game is unwinable for mafia so gg.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 00:45 GMT
#1363
On June 13 2015 09:42 wherebugsgo wrote:
I hope no one fucked up the votes


I doubt mafia is going to be posting very much so why don't we all just /confirm who we voted for to be sure.

I voted bugs and breshke.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 01:10 GMT
#1370
On June 13 2015 10:07 wherebugsgo wrote:
who voted FF day 1

and who voted Kickstart

I voted neither


I voted both. And breshke.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 01:29 GMT
#1378
On June 13 2015 10:18 The Shining wrote:
I voted for whoever the fuck I wanted to.


>.> please be mafia, please be mafia, please be mafia.

I mean you didn't object to the plan when it was posted. <.<
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 01:34 GMT
#1384
On June 13 2015 10:32 The Shining wrote:
I also mentioned past games because like I said, I haven't been actually playing this game ever since having to read the toxicity D1. Makes sense when you have BM bugs GB and Yam in the same game, I guess.

I voted Yamato Bats, you fucking geniuses, or they wouldn't have gotten PRs. Fucking duh.


Brother

Why are you so salty?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 01:37 GMT
#1387
Yeah bugs is kind of a penis but who cares we won! Wooooo! Don't be salty.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 01:43 GMT
#1394
On June 13 2015 10:40 The Shining wrote:
Because I come back to the thread all happy and expecting to see a scum flip and instead get insulted on my play for absolutely fucking nothing by some trash scrub who has been insulting people all game. I was forced to read through all his toxic posts and now that it's been directed towards me, I will be damned if you think I'm just gonna take it. Fuck that.

And no lol. I really hope Tube was being serious and I really hope Tube is town. It would be funny as fuck to see this town lose over a double modkill mislynch combo.


Well you did see a scum flip so you can be happy about that and bugs has probably insulted everyone in the game at least once (himself included) so maybe you shouldn't take it so personally. He didn't play bad he actually contributed considerably to our victory so you should be happy!
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 14:02 GMT
#1484
Onegu MVP thank you for the carry. Please carry again sometime.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 17 2015 21:43 GMT
#1506
Once there is 1 mafia left the game can be solved in logarithmic time using the vote rigging we did.

O(log n) < O(n)

The game is not winable for mafia at that point.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-17 22:28:34
June 17 2015 22:21 GMT
#1509
On June 18 2015 06:50 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 06:43 batsnacks wrote:
Once there is 1 mafia left the game can be solved in logarithmic time using the vote rigging we did.

O(log n) < O(n)

The game is not winable for mafia at that point.


This

It makes solving the game purely mechanical, with no rethoric needed.

The thing is that the factional silver bullets doesn't attack the problem directly, which is Mafia not being able to vote


Allowing all mafias to vote seems very strong for mafia. Just allowing the GF to vote is also a solution, and it makes sense from a lore perspective since the GF returns green to checks anyway.

***edit, if only the GF can vote, it also adds incentive for 1 witchhunter to hold their shot in the event they are the last mafia alive and need to delay vote rigging. nvm this is dumb and only works if there is exactly 1 witchhunter alive exactly 1 day from lylo.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-17 23:52:43
June 17 2015 23:50 GMT
#1512
On June 18 2015 07:32 Blazinghand wrote:
the "priest can cast a vote" solution actually isn't so bad. remember, this is a problem that only happens if all silver bullets are used up, and town can only be sure of this (short of there being two clear silver bullet uses, in which case town is probably losing) if both witch hunters are dead. I'll think about it


Thinking about it, I don't really know if that's an adequate solution. If there is ever exactly 1 witchhunter left mafia still can't win unless the very next day is lylo. Town can always solve the game faster than mafia can kill.

A more robust solution would be that the priest can vote AND if a witchhunter is ever the last mafia alive they are promoted to a priest. This would completely invalidate the lame strategy.

***becoming a GF when there is exactly 1 mafia left is not an advantage for mafia since town can check the priest via blaspheme to begin with.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-17 23:56:55
June 17 2015 23:56 GMT
#1513
On June 18 2015 08:50 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 07:32 Blazinghand wrote:
the "priest can cast a vote" solution actually isn't so bad. remember, this is a problem that only happens if all silver bullets are used up, and town can only be sure of this (short of there being two clear silver bullet uses, in which case town is probably losing) if both witch hunters are dead. I'll think about it


Thinking about it, I don't really know if that's an adequate solution. If there is ever exactly 1 witchhunter left mafia still can't win unless the very next day is lylo. Town can always solve the game faster than mafia can kill.

A more robust solution would be that the priest can vote AND if a witchhunter is ever the last mafia alive they are promoted to a priest. This would completely invalidate the lame strategy.

***becoming a GF when there is exactly 1 mafia left is not an advantage for mafia since town can check the priest via blaspheme to begin with.


On June 18 2015 08:34 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 07:32 Blazinghand wrote:
the "priest can cast a vote" solution actually isn't so bad. remember, this is a problem that only happens if all silver bullets are used up, and town can only be sure of this (short of there being two clear silver bullet uses, in which case town is probably losing) if both witch hunters are dead. I'll think about it


I have a suggestion:

What do you think of keeping the silver bullets not-factional but giving scum a factional 1 vote?


Pretty much this.

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