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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 10 2015 00:09 GMT
#894
i havent really done much to prove my innocence honestly
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 10 2015 00:17 GMT
#900
i am a much better player once the numbers start thinning out, contrary to what WBG said about me "we cant keep bill around or he will mess this up for us"

believe it or not, i am quite good at analyzing votes relating to who has to be mafia ... the difference here is that it is hard to do that where it's not instant majority. in instant majority, i can use deductive reasoning to see who could have blitzed potentially.

here it takes a little more analysis of the final votecount. lets think of the lynch we had on LS.
there were only like 3-4 people that werent voting him. Me, batsnacks, freezingfoot, and tubesock

there will be 1 mafia in there

batsnacks is likely town other than the last minute voteswitch which was scummy
so that leaves 50-50 between tubesock and freezingfoot
tubesock buddied me pretty hard, but i still have to trust my gut and go with freezingfoot

the other scum will likely be in the list of people who were voting LS. I'm not counting batsnacks on the list because he changed his vote when it was irrelevant

If you look at the remaining 8 players The Shining, WBG, and Yamato scream town to me. That leaves, like, Onegu, Breshke, Shockeyy, and Kickstart

Onegu would be tryharding more as scum
Breshke is really hard for me to read - null
Shockeeyy I think is town for meta reasons
that leaves Kickstart who I've toyed around with the idea of being scum

So to me scum are Kickstart and FrozenFeet

University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 10 2015 01:04 GMT
#921
your "long post" full of one liners?
you need to quit spamming honestly
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 10 2015 01:18 GMT
#925
On June 10 2015 09:47 Breshke wrote:
I'm actually not that much of a fan of morph. If scum shoots you and you don't die they just silver bullet you the next day. Actually I guess that gives us more blues next phase idk it is w/e

BM can you explain why you switched off of LS or direct me to a post where you explained it

i changed my vote because i fucked up


On June 10 2015 09:19 wherebugsgo wrote:
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On June 10 2015 09:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 10 2015 09:11 Kickstart wrote:
On June 10 2015 09:09 Bill Murray wrote:
i havent really done much to prove my innocence honestly

Indeed. While you have simultaneously done quite a few things that are scummy.
See your dilemma if you are town?


He had a pretty strong dumbtell at eod.

On June 10 2015 07:53 Bill Murray wrote:
On June 10 2015 07:52 Kickstart wrote:
Obvious no, but I am still of the opinion you shouldn't tell who you voted to get powers. Of course you could be scum and just making shit up cause scum don't actually vote for ppl to get powers.

scum get a vote to pick powers too dude



stop using shit that's not alignment indicative to indicate things of alignment!

being dumb, aggressive, passive, lurky, active, none of these are alignment indicative by themselves. They paint a picture in context of other things. If BM is scum he himself knows he doesn't have a vote, and "acting dumb" is fucking easy. All he has to do is say that scum get a vote and some idiot townie will come along and say he's town because he doesn't know scum don't get votes.

I don't know why people fall into this trap over and over and over but it's exactly the reason that mafia players on this mafia only need to be 10% as good as townies to do anything remotely "amazing"

why do you try to discredit me in every single post you make about me?
if you're not saying "bm is scum" with 0 reasoning, you're trying to darken every towntell I make
there's no reason you shouldn't be seeing the light about why I'm a good guy this game

On June 10 2015 09:20 batsnacks wrote:
If my vote change at the last minute is irrelevant than why does it make me scummy?

Also my bat-senses are telling me that tube is mafia.

it doesn't; wbg likes to misrepresent people and be in the spotlight
it's not out of the realm of possibility he was bussing on D1
On June 10 2015 09:21 Breshke wrote:
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On June 10 2015 09:07 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 10 2015 09:03 Breshke wrote:
How is role block any better than blaspheme

If you RB the scum that doesn't send the kill you literally have no info the RB is only useful if it hits. Blaspheme at least gives the distinct answer if someone is or isn't the priest


what?

It may have no effect only if the RB hits the priest.

I don't think scum are ballsy enough to both deliver the KP and a silver bullet on the same player (if they choose to fire a silver bullet tonight). If they try to snipe a blue tonight they almost certainly will use both players to deliver KP, otherwise if the witch hunter gets RBed both of their KPs fail

I am 99% sure I play better scum than you and let me be frank when I say a DT check would not scare me in this setup nearly as much as an RB or a jailkeeper prot.


I'm 100% sure you play scum better than me no one was having a dick measuring contest but thanks for getting yours out to show

Silver bullet gets refunded if role blocked so it's not like they really lose that kp also if someone role locks someone and there is still one shown kill does that mean that person is mafia or maybe scum didn't use their silver bullet or missed with it. I think RB is good in best case scenario whereas blaspheme while shittier always provides info

glad someone else realizes he is spotlighting
it'd be nice to get a check on WBG tonight to clear up any potential big time plays he could be making

On June 10 2015 09:25 wherebugsgo wrote:
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On June 10 2015 09:21 Breshke wrote:
On June 10 2015 09:07 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 10 2015 09:03 Breshke wrote:
How is role block any better than blaspheme

If you RB the scum that doesn't send the kill you literally have no info the RB is only useful if it hits. Blaspheme at least gives the distinct answer if someone is or isn't the priest


what?

It may have no effect only if the RB hits the priest.

I don't think scum are ballsy enough to both deliver the KP and a silver bullet on the same player (if they choose to fire a silver bullet tonight). If they try to snipe a blue tonight they almost certainly will use both players to deliver KP, otherwise if the witch hunter gets RBed both of their KPs fail

I am 99% sure I play better scum than you and let me be frank when I say a DT check would not scare me in this setup nearly as much as an RB or a jailkeeper prot.


I'm 100% sure you play scum better than me no one was having a dick measuring contest but thanks for getting yours out to show

Silver bullet gets refunded if role blocked so it's not like they really lose that kp also if someone role locks someone and there is still one shown kill does that mean that person is mafia or maybe scum didn't use their silver bullet or missed with it. I think RB is good in best case scenario whereas blaspheme while shittier always provides info


this is not a contest. I am a crap townie and I'm pretty decent at scum, which is why I am very confident in the situation I described to you, but I was not very confident in the end that LS would flip scum.

Even if the bullet gets refunded you are potentially keeping a townie alive for another cycle at least because a silver bullet during a half cycle results in a flip (if it is successful) at the end of said half cycle.

In other words if you RB the witch hunter successfully the target ends up living for the next day to push lynches with you. That's almost equivalent to saving them as a medic/JK. The only difference is that the RB can actually directly stop normal KP delivery, which in this game is incredibly useful because a JK on a good townie can actually prevent a blue usage.

Now of course saving that townie is more valuable than the blue usage but it's better to have more townies alive for longer than it is to rely on things like DT checks.

DT is only good in best case scenario. RB is good even in not so good scenario, simply because the number of scummers is so low. Remember a green DT check doesn't mean shit, it's only the red one that matters.

this statement in this post reiterates what im saying. WBG = bad town, WBG plays well D1, nabs scum WBG=scum

thats why i think he could have been bussing. he's basically confirming that suspicion.

I still have reason to townread him and I want to believe it but i'd like to scry him tonight to see what's shaken

On June 10 2015 09:32 Kickstart wrote:
Nice try.
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On June 10 2015 07:51 Bill Murray wrote:
On June 10 2015 07:50 wherebugsgo wrote:
obviously your only choice is to take my opinion at face value, because I could certainly be under the effects of confirmation bias, especially since I knew his roles going into reading those posts. However I think the differences in tone, emotion, style, and specificity are enough for me to be confident that this is not his town game, even if he did get mislynched for what you think is a similar style. Sorry, but you're most likely just wrong.

A toneread is better than an overall metaread, wouldn't you agree, WBG?

On June 10 2015 07:50 Kickstart wrote:
Indeed I am.

it's okay. I was just rxn testing you. I don't think you're scum.

So which is it. Am I scum or not scum.

Also I don't put much trust in your "reads", nor should anyone else.
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On June 10 2015 04:35 Bill Murray wrote:
i know for a fact WBG is scum the way he acted
and if hes town its worthy of policy
but it's not what I know it's what I can convince you all to do with me
Super town:
Batsnacks
Yamato
Breshke
Tubesock

slight town:
Onegu
LightningStrike
Kickstart
Shockeyy

Scum:
WBG
FrozenFeet
Stutters

I may be forgetting someone from this list but this is where I'm at on this game

Your nice list post (which I almost always read as scummy- lost posts with nothing), was blatantly wrong on stutters and probably wbg, might be right on foot but I think you are bussing so whatever. Of course you were wrong on LS as well.
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On June 10 2015 07:30 Bill Murray wrote:
FF you only started calling me scum when i made a joke about your post being scumposting

but you are actually town so i understand why youre doing this

But then you are as wishy washy on FF as you are with everything else so. You are just keeping options opens and potential "outs" for yourself, scum play.
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On June 10 2015 07:39 Bill Murray wrote:
i dont think LS is mafia but self preservation is key

Wrong again.
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On June 10 2015 07:44 Bill Murray wrote:
On June 10 2015 07:39 FreezingFoot wrote:
On June 10 2015 03:27 FreezingFoot wrote:
No, really.
BM scumreads bugs with me
BM ignores the townie points I've brought on bugs
BM townreads Shockey out of NOTHING and wants to lynch coinflip stutters instead
BM scumreads me, who was scumreading bugs (his main scum read) out of a stupid association with STUTTERS.

Please. Vote this guy. It's ridiculous


I dont really scumread bugs, I was trying to get information
I have to ignore cases for/against him until he puts out more information. The spreadsheet was great, but he threatened to not play here anymore. I was hoping he came back because I really enjoy having someone like that in the town with me.
I townread shockeyy for a good reason. I have played with him more than anyone else has here so I am definitely the meta master when it comes to him. my meta on WBG, however, was contrived, as I don't have a reference to him playing scum. He has always been someone who has been hard for me to read except when he is blue and I nightkill him as mafia (which ive done numerous times because it's obvious to me when he has a power role [he lurks more than he is here], as opposed to how he is acting right now, as vanilla town who im voting to get a power tonight... i mean he could be a miller but thats still vanilla and i dont think millers are self aware this game)

I didnt ever scumread you. I said "^scumposting" as a joke; it wasn't even to get a reaction out of you. The association thing with stutters came afterwards and that is actually very serious. I could see you being scum if he is scum, unless he was trying to buddy you on a WBG lynch. If Stutters is mafia it clears WBG although WBG doesnt need clearing considering he made that awesome spreadsheet.

More wishywashiness on foot. Keeping your options open instead of committing; scum mentality.
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On June 10 2015 07:47 Bill Murray wrote:
I'd be a lot happier voting kickstart/a lurker than LS but I'm beginning to come around to this lynch considering WBG is so solid on it

I bet you would, scum.
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On June 10 2015 07:55 Bill Murray wrote:
On June 10 2015 07:54 wherebugsgo wrote:
anyway not gonna post for a bit because I need to draft up the night post for my own game.

pls no voteswitch

i'm not unvoting, but if he flips green, i'm voting you tomorrow

You aren't unvoting aye? Nice lies.
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On June 10 2015 07:59 Bill Murray wrote:
On June 10 2015 07:30 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay I just going to vote to save myself
##Unvote
Vote: Bill Murray

this is town play

No it isn't.
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On June 10 2015 07:59 Bill Murray wrote:
i dont want to voteswitch onto him i just dont want to lynch LS i dont think LS is scum

Said you wouldnt voteswitch did it anyways and the target you switched off of was scum.
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On June 10 2015 08:19 Bill Murray wrote:
ive had more towntells than anyone

wrong again
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On June 10 2015 08:52 Bill Murray wrote:
before this nightphase is over fully expect me to have a good case on someone

probably more lies.

Just concede already scum.

How is flip flopping scum behavior?
Scum have perfect knowledge of the game, something is wrong with this post
I said I'm not going to change my vote, and then changed my vote, so what?
Have you not ever bluffed before? It's not lying. Get over yourself.

On June 10 2015 10:08 Kickstart wrote:
You, accusing someone of posting pointless things, how funny.
Thought I told you to concede alrdy scum?

dude can you stop being a twit?
first off im not scum
second off if i was scum i wouldnt concede

On June 10 2015 10:08 Kickstart wrote:
And it doesn't take more than a few oneliners to sum you up. Watch me do it in one word:

useless

nice ad hominem
thats not scummy or anything

On June 10 2015 10:10 wherebugsgo wrote:
just ignore BM dude

you're so polite WBG i bet you're a hit at parties

oh wait with an attitude like that you're never invited
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 10 2015 02:00 GMT
#939
On June 10 2015 10:57 ShoCkeyy wrote:
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On June 10 2015 09:20 yamato77 wrote:
tube probably is mafia lol

his LS read was shit


I don't understand why everyone is so against each other when a few of us clearly know who town is, but yet ignoring this. Tube is probably mafia, his LS read was shit. Also Foot's answer to my question was shit too.

yeah it's pretty baffling how rude some people have been to me this game
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 10 2015 02:01 GMT
#941
On June 10 2015 10:23 Breshke wrote:
it annoys me that you put more effort into replying to posts from people saying to ignore you than ones where im actually trying to work out your allighnment.

How did you fuck up and why did it make you switch your vote?

i was saying i fucked up in switching my vote at all

im not the best scumhunter and it sucks but hey at least we lynched scum
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 10 2015 02:27 GMT
#950
[image loading]

this is what WBG and yamato look like right now, except gayer
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 10 2015 03:38 GMT
#965
why are you spamming?
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 10 2015 03:42 GMT
#966
up me on your scum rating WBG i know you dont really think im scum
i read your whole iso a couple hours ago and every place you mention me is tinged with doubt
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 10 2015 03:44 GMT
#967
going to play league
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 10 2015 05:16 GMT
#972
dota sucks
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 10 2015 05:24 GMT
#973
i is town
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 10 2015 23:12 GMT
#1039
good fucking riddance
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 10 2015 23:14 GMT
#1040
On June 11 2015 05:07 Kickstart wrote:
But to summarize I explained that if scum saw Bill on their team they just bus him regardless because it is only a matter of time before he gets lynched so you get free town cred. tubes I said was scummy before eod1 and you and bill looked the worst after the lynch. Don't see anything confusing in any of that. You reading me as being too enthusiastic or whatever is just you misreading me.

Also just so you can read this when you come to check the thread and see that you're dead

I have carried so many games here as scum it's not funny

ive been elected godfather by my team numerous times

the FIRST game i was EVER scum I had INCOGNITO on my fucking team and I was elected godfather over him

and guess what? I mopped up the fucking town.

the first mini I was ever in? Mafia. Talked Pyrruloxia and Ace into getting lynched

It's not what you know, it's what you can convince people you know

I'm just rusty right now, and town, so I'm sucking ass this game
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 11 2015 00:37 GMT
#1046
well hopefully someone checked me last night so you all can vote someone else
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 11 2015 00:39 GMT
#1047
if i was mafia wbg would be dead
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 11 2015 00:42 GMT
#1048
i have a reason to call myself town yamato
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 11 2015 00:42 GMT
#1049
because i am
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 11 2015 04:06 GMT
#1088
tubesock reminds me of bloodycobbler
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 11 2015 04:11 GMT
#1092
i can see the shining being scum
his LS vote felt off to me

he also had a really bad reaction to when the lynch went through that felt forced

furthermore he is pushing me so admittedly there is a little bias here but
vote: The Shining
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