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NydusHerMain
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada492 Posts
May 22 2015 23:44 GMT
#27
/in
NydusHerMain
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada492 Posts
May 23 2015 05:10 GMT
#30
O.o hi? Yeah I decided to finally play another game of mafia :D . School is really easy this summer so I have a lot more time.
NydusHerMain
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada492 Posts
June 01 2015 20:33 GMT
#179
/confirm
NydusHerMain
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada492 Posts
June 02 2015 20:22 GMT
#204
NydusHerMain
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada492 Posts
June 02 2015 22:27 GMT
#297
I'm not going to lie, I skimmed over a lot of the unsubstantial one liners but from the posts I actually think had any value, I have a couple of town and scum.

So far, I don't really like [colour = red]KickStarter[/color] too much. His initial post gave me a horrible vibe so maybe my read is majorly affected by confirmation bias but I dislike the way he's interacting with Ritoky. He isn't really flat out calling Ritoky scum but it just feels like he's softly pushing scum on him with the way he keeps talking about how Ritoky's playstyle is bad, etc.

I also dislike
NydusHerMain
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada492 Posts
June 02 2015 22:33 GMT
#304
Okay so I was formatting and pressed the wrong button.... to save myself the embarassment... I'm just going to barebone the rest -_- ....

Even though I said I didn't like Kickstarter, I also, funny enough, don't like Ritoky. His playstyle is just something I'm willing to vote on irrelevant of alignment. If we lynch him and he flips mafia, I'll gladly take the credit. If he flips town, I gladly take the blame.

I have a town read on Milo, I liked his reaction to Damdred and I liked that he was pressuring Ritoky (or at least attempting to). I don't see what's scummy about him to Kickstarter. Everything he says seems genuine to me.

Also, I'm kind of glad I pressed post by accident because I'm not a very frequent poster (I usually just post big WoTs or at least plan to) and I was scared I wouldn't meet the 10 posts per 72 hours rule. Phew.... See you guys again in 9 hours since I just need to make 1 post per 9 hours to meet the quota for this cycle. PEACE
NydusHerMain
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada492 Posts
June 02 2015 22:36 GMT
#306
On June 03 2015 07:33 Kickstart wrote:
Nydus post is just weird to me, I of course don't like his scumread on me because he admits he hasnt read then claims I am tunneling ritocky for bad posting which I am not at all doing. I admit I didn't like his image/gif nonsense but I also stated I wanted to find out if this is normal of him and since then me and ritocky have just both been pressuring milo. To Nydus and everyone, it would help if you actually read everything before posting and didnt say "I didnt read everything but I think _____", if you did this you wouldn't give everyone a confused town vibe.


I did read. I didn't get to fully proofread what I was writing so I might have said the wrong thing by mistake but what I meant to say was if I saw a one liner that I thought was pointless, I didn't really read who posted it because it was boring and useless information. Unless people were posting while I was making my previous post(s), I had read everything up until that point.

Also, I didn't say you were tunnelling on Ritoky, I was saying you were pushing light scum on him without calling him scum which I think is scummy.
NydusHerMain
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada492 Posts
June 02 2015 22:52 GMT
#320
On June 03 2015 07:43 Kickstart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 07:33 NydusHerMain wrote:
Okay so I was formatting and pressed the wrong button.... to save myself the embarassment... I'm just going to barebone the rest -_- ....

Even though I said I didn't like Kickstarter, I also, funny enough, don't like Ritoky. His playstyle is just something I'm willing to vote on irrelevant of alignment. If we lynch him and he flips mafia, I'll gladly take the credit. If he flips town, I gladly take the blame.

I have a town read on Milo, I liked his reaction to Damdred and I liked that he was pressuring Ritoky (or at least attempting to). I don't see what's scummy about him to Kickstarter. Everything he says seems genuine to me.

Also, I'm kind of glad I pressed post by accident because I'm not a very frequent poster (I usually just post big WoTs or at least plan to) and I was scared I wouldn't meet the 10 posts per 72 hours rule. Phew.... See you guys again in 9 hours since I just need to make 1 post per 9 hours to meet the quota for this cycle. PEACE


The rest of your post is even more odd to me. For one you just aligned yourself with Milo, for seemingly no reason (and I will also point out that you specifically mentioned his reaction to Damdred which was exactly what milo used as a town read on Damred but which is something that didn't stick out at all to me). Right now I clearly see a milo, Nydus, Damdred connection here which I find really odd given that, in my opinion, nothing has happened for you three to align yourselves like this. To be fair, Damdred has said nothing to align himself with them Nydus but there is a slight connection there in that these 3 seem to be thinking alike and making the same points.
@Damdred
Can you give detailed thoughts on milo and Nydus strange posts?

Also, while I'm posting this Damdred also defended milo, making the link between them 2 even stronger.

Another thing about your post that I quoted Nydus is that I really don't like that you said you are willing to vote ritocky just because you don't like his posting. Scum are the ones who don't care who is lynched, and the fact that you state that you don't care if he is town and is lynched is not an opinion a towns person should have.


HAHAHAHA loaded question much?

Anyways, I didn't completely flesh out my Milo townread because I was kind of annoyed that I hit post before I even finished posting and when I was about to edit, I remembered it was against the rules. To me, I think he's defending himself decently against both you and Ritoky, and his vote on Ritoky didn't feel out of place. I saw it as a pressure vote and didn't see it as anything he was going to keep forever unless he continued to see Ritoky as scummy. When someone called him out for contradiction, he admitted to making the mistake pretty quickly and I don't think that it's scummy to be stuck making a logic error. If he tried to stick with the error and pretend that it was correct, then I would think he was scummy but he did the opposite.
NydusHerMain
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada492 Posts
June 02 2015 23:01 GMT
#326
On June 03 2015 07:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
Nydus can we be town together this game? That would be swell.

If yes, vote for Chocolate. If no, vote for me so I can vote for you.


If I vote on no one, am I claiming third party? Also, don't you have to prove town to me first?

On June 03 2015 07:58 Kickstart wrote:
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On June 03 2015 07:52 NydusHerMain wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 03 2015 07:43 Kickstart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 07:33 NydusHerMain wrote:
Okay so I was formatting and pressed the wrong button.... to save myself the embarassment... I'm just going to barebone the rest -_- ....

Even though I said I didn't like Kickstarter, I also, funny enough, don't like Ritoky. His playstyle is just something I'm willing to vote on irrelevant of alignment. If we lynch him and he flips mafia, I'll gladly take the credit. If he flips town, I gladly take the blame.

I have a town read on Milo, I liked his reaction to Damdred and I liked that he was pressuring Ritoky (or at least attempting to). I don't see what's scummy about him to Kickstarter. Everything he says seems genuine to me.

Also, I'm kind of glad I pressed post by accident because I'm not a very frequent poster (I usually just post big WoTs or at least plan to) and I was scared I wouldn't meet the 10 posts per 72 hours rule. Phew.... See you guys again in 9 hours since I just need to make 1 post per 9 hours to meet the quota for this cycle. PEACE


The rest of your post is even more odd to me. For one you just aligned yourself with Milo, for seemingly no reason (and I will also point out that you specifically mentioned his reaction to Damdred which was exactly what milo used as a town read on Damred but which is something that didn't stick out at all to me). Right now I clearly see a milo, Nydus, Damdred connection here which I find really odd given that, in my opinion, nothing has happened for you three to align yourselves like this. To be fair, Damdred has said nothing to align himself with them Nydus but there is a slight connection there in that these 3 seem to be thinking alike and making the same points.
@Damdred
Can you give detailed thoughts on milo and Nydus strange posts?

Also, while I'm posting this Damdred also defended milo, making the link between them 2 even stronger.

Another thing about your post that I quoted Nydus is that I really don't like that you said you are willing to vote ritocky just because you don't like his posting. Scum are the ones who don't care who is lynched, and the fact that you state that you don't care if he is town and is lynched is not an opinion a towns person should have.


HAHAHAHA loaded question much?

Anyways, I didn't completely flesh out my Milo townread because I was kind of annoyed that I hit post before I even finished posting and when I was about to edit, I remembered it was against the rules. To me, I think he's defending himself decently against both you and Ritoky, and his vote on Ritoky didn't feel out of place. I saw it as a pressure vote and didn't see it as anything he was going to keep forever unless he continued to see Ritoky as scummy. When someone called him out for contradiction, he admitted to making the mistake pretty quickly and I don't think that it's scummy to be stuck making a logic error. If he tried to stick with the error and pretend that it was correct, then I would think he was scummy but he did the opposite.

That makes sense I guess. I would still like you to explain why you stated you would be fine voting ritocky just because you don't like his posting. I find it scummy that you stated you don't care if ritocky is town or scum but that you would be happy having him gone either way, so I would still like you to expand on this...


It's mostly a gut feel. I feel like people who play like he does are hard to read but I also feel like they are not very helpful to town so to me, it's more like a lynch because he'll probably get lynched along the way anyways. If he's mafia great, if he's town, he had it coming.
NydusHerMain
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada492 Posts
June 02 2015 23:11 GMT
#343
On June 03 2015 08:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 08:01 NydusHerMain wrote:
On June 03 2015 07:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
Nydus can we be town together this game? That would be swell.

If yes, vote for Chocolate. If no, vote for me so I can vote for you.


If I vote on no one, am I claiming third party? Also, don't you have to prove town to me first?

On June 03 2015 07:58 Kickstart wrote:
On June 03 2015 07:52 NydusHerMain wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 03 2015 07:43 Kickstart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 07:33 NydusHerMain wrote:
Okay so I was formatting and pressed the wrong button.... to save myself the embarassment... I'm just going to barebone the rest -_- ....

Even though I said I didn't like Kickstarter, I also, funny enough, don't like Ritoky. His playstyle is just something I'm willing to vote on irrelevant of alignment. If we lynch him and he flips mafia, I'll gladly take the credit. If he flips town, I gladly take the blame.

I have a town read on Milo, I liked his reaction to Damdred and I liked that he was pressuring Ritoky (or at least attempting to). I don't see what's scummy about him to Kickstarter. Everything he says seems genuine to me.

Also, I'm kind of glad I pressed post by accident because I'm not a very frequent poster (I usually just post big WoTs or at least plan to) and I was scared I wouldn't meet the 10 posts per 72 hours rule. Phew.... See you guys again in 9 hours since I just need to make 1 post per 9 hours to meet the quota for this cycle. PEACE


The rest of your post is even more odd to me. For one you just aligned yourself with Milo, for seemingly no reason (and I will also point out that you specifically mentioned his reaction to Damdred which was exactly what milo used as a town read on Damred but which is something that didn't stick out at all to me). Right now I clearly see a milo, Nydus, Damdred connection here which I find really odd given that, in my opinion, nothing has happened for you three to align yourselves like this. To be fair, Damdred has said nothing to align himself with them Nydus but there is a slight connection there in that these 3 seem to be thinking alike and making the same points.
@Damdred
Can you give detailed thoughts on milo and Nydus strange posts?

Also, while I'm posting this Damdred also defended milo, making the link between them 2 even stronger.

Another thing about your post that I quoted Nydus is that I really don't like that you said you are willing to vote ritocky just because you don't like his posting. Scum are the ones who don't care who is lynched, and the fact that you state that you don't care if he is town and is lynched is not an opinion a towns person should have.


HAHAHAHA loaded question much?

Anyways, I didn't completely flesh out my Milo townread because I was kind of annoyed that I hit post before I even finished posting and when I was about to edit, I remembered it was against the rules. To me, I think he's defending himself decently against both you and Ritoky, and his vote on Ritoky didn't feel out of place. I saw it as a pressure vote and didn't see it as anything he was going to keep forever unless he continued to see Ritoky as scummy. When someone called him out for contradiction, he admitted to making the mistake pretty quickly and I don't think that it's scummy to be stuck making a logic error. If he tried to stick with the error and pretend that it was correct, then I would think he was scummy but he did the opposite.

That makes sense I guess. I would still like you to explain why you stated you would be fine voting ritocky just because you don't like his posting. I find it scummy that you stated you don't care if ritocky is town or scum but that you would be happy having him gone either way, so I would still like you to expand on this...


It's mostly a gut feel. I feel like people who play like he does are hard to read but I also feel like they are not very helpful to town so to me, it's more like a lynch because he'll probably get lynched along the way anyways. If he's mafia great, if he's town, he had it coming.

I'll give you time to think, you don't have to decide right away. But the proof is already in the thread - whether you're willing to accept it or not is entirely another issue.

So should I assume that you're sweeping Chocolate under the rug? Or should I assume that you're just ignoring my posts maliciously?


I did ignore your post about Chocolate but that's because the only thing I have on him is that he's statistically likely to be well endowed ^^. I'm not particularly good at dealing with choice of wording but I do think it's a little odd. I'd like him to make a couple more posts before I call him any alignment.


Oh, really quick thing, since no one asked and I'm about to leave for dinner, the way I play is I try to give as much content as I can, and I try to leave out fence reads unless I haven't been keeping up with the posts and have nothing to really talk about. If I'm paying a lot of attention to the game, you'll see me giving town reads and scum reads only. Also, if I'm slightly leaning town on someone, I'll call them a town read (and same for scum) even if it's only slight so don't be too offended if I call you mafia and don't feel too safe if you're mafia and I call you town.
NydusHerMain
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada492 Posts
June 03 2015 00:32 GMT
#410
On June 03 2015 09:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On June 03 2015 09:26 milo109 wrote:
On June 03 2015 09:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
On June 03 2015 09:22 milo109 wrote:
Sure.

I don't like VE. He's obviously a strong player, and I don't think he's contributed as many reads as he should have.

Sicklucker is an another possibility, but with people who still haven't posted, I don't think I need to find a third scum yet.

LAWL

Get voted scruuuuhhhhh

I assume you have a problem with my reasoning or is calling you scum blasphemy?

Nah, I've thought you were mafia since you scumslipped that you knew Choco was AFK. You voting for me just gave me the incentive I needed.


Just for clarification, you're implying that if Milo is mafia, he's mafia with Choco because he knew Choco was afk when Choco hadn't said it in this thread so perhaps by an external means of mafia communication?
NydusHerMain
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada492 Posts
June 03 2015 00:33 GMT
#411
Ignore my last post, VE clarified while I was typing
NydusHerMain
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada492 Posts
June 03 2015 00:40 GMT
#415
On June 03 2015 09:37 Kickstart wrote:
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On June 03 2015 09:25 Damdred wrote:
Also everyone is demanding more and more reads from him but the main person who,keeps screaming for,more reads gives one leaves thread promises more comes back and doesn't deliver and,nobody talks about it.


I said it would take me awhile, I am still making the post. You lot sure are impatient. I also don't see your scum reads on anyone :rollseyes:

Anyways I've only gotten so far as to reiterate and add on my milo read, adding in my other reads now so be patient.


Yeah I'm actually curious as to who Damdred's strong scum are as well.


As for Ritoky, I was debating whether or not I'd consider not voting him today and I read a little bit of a Carnaval Do Brasil game he was in and he didn't seem as trolly or confrontational in day 1 as opposed to this game. For those of you wondering, he was town in the Carnaval Do Brasil game. Also, yes I think he's scummy.
NydusHerMain
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada492 Posts
June 03 2015 00:49 GMT
#420
On June 03 2015 09:47 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
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On June 03 2015 06:02 Kickstart wrote:
I just want to go ahead and get this out.

A good town environment is one in which no one is allowed to lurk or be passive and not post much of their thoughts. While I honestly don't know any of the players in this game I believe some are new so to them and to everyone else, you have to post. Whether you are 100% sure in your reads or not, posting is good for town. Even if your reads are wrong, being active is good for town to figure out the game. I refuse to allow the game to be a passive one where several people are lurking and not being active and contributing to the conversation because that automatically makes the game harder on town and lessens town's win chance. The 10 post per cycle rule enacted by the host is a good first step but I think it is up to us to make sure that people don't abuse the rule by just posting the minimum number of times and saying nothing of substance.

Now what I said applies to every game of course, an active town is always better than a passive town with several lurkers; but I particularly wanted to lead in with this point because I already feel like we might be heading in the direction of a passive/inactive town. So this is directed to everyone but specifically directed @ Damdred and Tictock:

Damdred and Tictock already posted before the start of the game that they might not be active. Here are Dam's and TT's posts I am referring to:
On June 01 2015 06:12 Damdred wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I'll

/In

But will be hit and miss on activity

On June 01 2015 12:51 Tictock wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
/confirm

Not very motivated atm, might pick up as the game goes on, we'll see

sorry


Thankfully they have both said that they are just sort of busy at the start but will have more time and be more active. I just want to urge them both to be as active as they can from the start, that way everyone can gets reads on them and we don't let them both through just because they aren't active in the first phase but might be in the phases after.

Just to be clear though, I am not accusing either of you nor am I suspicious of you for it, because those statements are clearly not alignment indicative because they were made before the game began and people had their roles. I am just saying that I refuse to allow the game to devolve into a passive town game with people lurking and posting nothing of substance and those events already have me worried that we may find ourselves in that position. So I urge you, along with everyone else, to be as active as you can, even if you are strapped for time.

Now that that is out of the way, could those who have played in games with some of the other people in the game (or if you know them) tell me who the strong players? I haven't played mafia on here since 2012 so I have no idea who the good players are and I think knowing this is helpful. I know this request seems a bit scummy ("Oh you wan't to know who the good players are so you can get rid of them!") but I will just concede that and say that knowing who is good tells everyone that those players:
a) should not be lurking because if they are good they are usually always active in their games (so if they are lurking and posting not much substance it will be suspicious),
and,
b) they would be valuable assets (so we should expect strong town play from them and we would expect mafia to try and get rid of them), both good pieces of information for town.

That is all I have for now, get to posting and being active everyone! :D


Hi I am town. Your name is very fitting ^_^

I am inclined to believe the general tone of your post is townie, even though you do repeat yourself a little bit.


#scum
NydusHerMain
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada492 Posts
June 03 2015 00:53 GMT
#424
On June 03 2015 09:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On June 03 2015 09:42 milo109 wrote:
On June 03 2015 09:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
On June 03 2015 09:34 milo109 wrote:
GRR. This is frustrating me. I'm fine being read as scum for my own problems, but not for assuming that someone who hadn't posted was unable to defend themselves. HE WASN'T POSTING. THAT MEANT HE COULDN'T DIRECTLY RESPOND TO YOUR ACCUSATION.

Except he did directly respond to my accusation. Directly.

Whatever, I get what you're saying. In the future, just don't bring up your teammates ESPECIALLY if someone is drawing attention to them. Trust THEM to dig themselves out. Otherwise you end up digging BOTH of you a grave.

I didn't. Which is why this is even more frustrating. I was wrong on the statement. But I was not predicting an AFK.

Whatever it's fine. Expand on your VE read if you please - I've been just exploding town all over this thread. You say there's been a lack of reads out of me. I say that doesn't make me mafia. I say that I've contributed at least one mafia read, and that's the person I want to lynch, and now I'm also willing to lynch you.

I'd say that I've contributed more than at least 50% of the game so far. I also say that I don't give many reads as both town AND mafia, but I give FEWER as town.

What do you say to that?


H...He...Hey town buddy .-.
NydusHerMain
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada492 Posts
June 04 2015 00:33 GMT
#570
On June 04 2015 04:28 ritoky wrote:
if i am being really honest. i think fid is a new player and my track record for reading new players is shite.5


On June 04 2015 05:46 ritoky wrote:
I just don't see how you can have a nydus town lean or read. I sure as shit don't anymore. A lot of people have a nydus town read which might mean some1 is spewing him but I don't think he has done enough to deserve the town reads he has gotten.

However back to your read on him and why it is strange:

Nydus thinks or thought that you are scum, he thinks 1 of your 2 top towns is scum and has reinforced it later (me), and he thinks your other top town's case on mafia is crap. So he literally completely disagrees with everything except your templar read, which tbh he may not actually stand behind that much cuz all we have is a #scum post. Even moreso he has a town read on milo who all 3 of your towns have pinged out as potential scum over the course of the 1st day. I just don't see how tone could possibly overrule how utterly wrong Nydus should appear to you. You haven't even called him donkey town....just a town lean. This read feels really out of place....


Ritoky, read the bolded part. It would probably explain your inability to townread me.

Anyways, for whoever addressed my #scum comment on Templar, it was semi trolling semi serious. I didn't like how little content he had given for his very first post so I called him scum to troll him. Regardless, I think most of his reasons for calling people scum/town are weak or sheeped. I can't tell if he's scum or just lazy town but I'm more inclined to think it's the former.

I can't tell what to make of the VE/milo interaction. The way VE went blazing on milo I kind of just assumed whatever VE was saying about milo was true but after he retracted his initial reason for pushing on milo... I don't know... it just feels really awkward. I'm still reading VE towny but I've only honestly seen him play in video mafia and don't know how deceptive he could be in forum mafia.

After a couple of the more recent posts, I'm getting a town feel from Ritoky. Just his level of attention to detail seems innately towny to me. Can someone who played with Ritoky tell me a bit about his mafia play because compared to Carnaval Do Brazil (sp?) it seems different and he was town in Carnaval so...
NydusHerMain
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada492 Posts
June 04 2015 00:35 GMT
#572
On June 04 2015 09:23 Onegu wrote:
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On June 04 2015 08:59 Fidei86 wrote:
Okay, so a lot of people have come out and said that they think what I'm saying is devoid of content. With that in mind, I've gone back over all the pages of the game and put together the below. Apologies for the wall of text, but I put it together as I was reading through, so it's going to be a bit stream-of-consciousness-y.

==

@Kickstart - You said on your post on page 13 that you found some things scummy, but you were going to wait and see whether they changed. Can you now say what you were talking about?

@Damdred - In your post on page 14 you said that ritoky shouldn't be lynched and that you would "revisit him during the night to make sure". Am I missing a rule here, or did you just come out as the cop? Is it possible that there is even a cop, since Onegu has claimed VT (I assume that's veteran?)?

@Ritoky - You asked me a question on page 15 which I missed, I think. I got a poor read from your initial posts. My (admittedly newbie) view is that a mafia member wouldn't paint themselves all over the first two pages of a thread, especially with things as banal as you did. However, the obvious "next-level" play is to do it as mafia, relying upon everyone thinking that it would be far too weird a play for a non-mafia to make. One thing that struck me was that Kickstart changed his view on you when he said your posting style had improved, even though it hadn't by that point. That was strange to me. You were still posting gifs and one-liners, and I don't think you had really contributed anything of merit. It's not a lot to go on, but it all strikes me as a possible attempt for you to get yourself established as the harmless town clown, which naturally sucks all of the venom out of your accusers. Then again, later on I've already said earlier in the thread that Kickstarter's opening post was not to my taste. If I had to say, I'd say I have you both as slight-mafia reads. As to your question about VE and Chocolate, I think I answered that later. Sorry for not spotting your question until now.

@Onegu - Can you explain to me why you would claim the special town role (VT) so early on? Doesn't that just make you an easy take-out for the mafia, since nobody (except Damdred?) has counter-claimed you?

Having seen more of milo's posts, I'm leaning back towards null. We honestly didn't have that much to go on at the start, and I think his reference to being okay with lynching was probably just a slip. His recent posts strike me as the most genuinely typed things (ie don't read as being written with an agenda).

I've made a list of all of the positive and negative things that people have said so far, and the person I come out most closely aligned to is Nydus, which I guess would make him my biggest town read. Specifically, Nydus has voiced suspicions on Kickstart and ritoky, which I share. He has also been suspicious of Damdred, and I have to agree with that. Whereas Kickstarter is coming across more as a traffic cop, I think Damdred seems too keen to infuse his posts with a sense of "I am town, no arguing", which seems off to me. VE's posts have the same tone to me. When Damdred got pushed on page 28, he reacted very viciously ("this is shit!"), which doesn't read to me as frustration (which a townie would have), but more like faux-righteous anger (which is more scummy). I also, as I stated before, generally agree with Chocolate as well, which puts him more towards town for me.

However, after all of that, I see on page 27 that Kickstarter has the same view of Nydus as me, and also seems similarly critical of Damdred. So now I'm not sure what to believe.



This guy blue or scum


How do you get blue reads on people in forum mafia?
NydusHerMain
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada492 Posts
June 04 2015 00:37 GMT
#573
On June 04 2015 09:35 NydusHerMain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2015 09:23 Onegu wrote:
On June 04 2015 08:59 Fidei86 wrote:
Okay, so a lot of people have come out and said that they think what I'm saying is devoid of content. With that in mind, I've gone back over all the pages of the game and put together the below. Apologies for the wall of text, but I put it together as I was reading through, so it's going to be a bit stream-of-consciousness-y.

==

@Kickstart - You said on your post on page 13 that you found some things scummy, but you were going to wait and see whether they changed. Can you now say what you were talking about?

@Damdred - In your post on page 14 you said that ritoky shouldn't be lynched and that you would "revisit him during the night to make sure". Am I missing a rule here, or did you just come out as the cop? Is it possible that there is even a cop, since Onegu has claimed VT (I assume that's veteran?)?

@Ritoky - You asked me a question on page 15 which I missed, I think. I got a poor read from your initial posts. My (admittedly newbie) view is that a mafia member wouldn't paint themselves all over the first two pages of a thread, especially with things as banal as you did. However, the obvious "next-level" play is to do it as mafia, relying upon everyone thinking that it would be far too weird a play for a non-mafia to make. One thing that struck me was that Kickstart changed his view on you when he said your posting style had improved, even though it hadn't by that point. That was strange to me. You were still posting gifs and one-liners, and I don't think you had really contributed anything of merit. It's not a lot to go on, but it all strikes me as a possible attempt for you to get yourself established as the harmless town clown, which naturally sucks all of the venom out of your accusers. Then again, later on I've already said earlier in the thread that Kickstarter's opening post was not to my taste. If I had to say, I'd say I have you both as slight-mafia reads. As to your question about VE and Chocolate, I think I answered that later. Sorry for not spotting your question until now.

@Onegu - Can you explain to me why you would claim the special town role (VT) so early on? Doesn't that just make you an easy take-out for the mafia, since nobody (except Damdred?) has counter-claimed you?

Having seen more of milo's posts, I'm leaning back towards null. We honestly didn't have that much to go on at the start, and I think his reference to being okay with lynching was probably just a slip. His recent posts strike me as the most genuinely typed things (ie don't read as being written with an agenda).

I've made a list of all of the positive and negative things that people have said so far, and the person I come out most closely aligned to is Nydus, which I guess would make him my biggest town read. Specifically, Nydus has voiced suspicions on Kickstart and ritoky, which I share. He has also been suspicious of Damdred, and I have to agree with that. Whereas Kickstarter is coming across more as a traffic cop, I think Damdred seems too keen to infuse his posts with a sense of "I am town, no arguing", which seems off to me. VE's posts have the same tone to me. When Damdred got pushed on page 28, he reacted very viciously ("this is shit!"), which doesn't read to me as frustration (which a townie would have), but more like faux-righteous anger (which is more scummy). I also, as I stated before, generally agree with Chocolate as well, which puts him more towards town for me.

However, after all of that, I see on page 27 that Kickstarter has the same view of Nydus as me, and also seems similarly critical of Damdred. So now I'm not sure what to believe.



This guy blue or scum


How do you get blue reads on people in forum mafia?


Sorry lemme make myself a little clearer. "What a weird thing to say"
NydusHerMain
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada492 Posts
June 04 2015 02:27 GMT
#609
On June 04 2015 11:23 Kickstart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2015 11:17 Chocolate wrote:
On June 04 2015 10:57 Kickstart wrote:
Took a nap cause I was feeling like shit and moody, probably came through in my posting. Lots of people have taken issue with my Nydus town read. I just want to say again that it was hastily done and I just said it off the top of my head because people were pressuring me to give more town reads (which again I don't find fair since I gave them, but people are greedy and wanted more and I reacted badly). It can be ignored and I have tried to explain why it happened, I will have to reevaluate him later but like I said I would probably not lynch him at the moment.

this post is scummy as hell and just screams to me that you're just trying to survive

If that is what you think then fine, I messed up and admitted it and can't change it now. I did retract it almost immediately though. You sure you not just looking for something to jump on? I'm far from just trying to survive.

Can't help but feel you and others have this convenient manufactured surprise and outrage at me.


Didn't kickstart say that his townread on me was like a very very light read? Why are people even on him for that o.O
NydusHerMain
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada492 Posts
June 04 2015 03:55 GMT
#625
I posted in voting thread but I wasn't sure if I also had to post it here.

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