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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 10 2015 23:14 GMT
#1721
The biggest question is now would Mafia TT be somewhat bussed by partner NHM (assumption)

Would mafia VE push two town mislynches?

Would town Oneg be useless and only push one person by a made up rule I don't remember him ever using?

Those are the hard questions that we should look at.

Also I really need people to walk me through why they think TT is scummy, because hes really put a lot of work in the past couple of days.
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 10 2015 23:31 GMT
#1722
Sigh. Triple LYLO? great...

Well I sure kicked up my game as well If I am scum, just like Tictock. Sounds like Damd wants to go after me and GG it out - not surprised. Let's see how well that will work. I'll re-read after a bit though.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 10 2015 23:48 GMT
#1723
NHM was totally lurking, very helpful

If Milo is "confirmed town" he doesn't care about his wincon - I'd be trying to go somewhere, but no

Me and Tictock are actually trying to figure things out.
Damdred is putting in a lot more effort then Onegu/Milo/VE
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milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
June 10 2015 23:51 GMT
#1724
I've been trying to solve the game since day one, and you've been overruling me as a group since day 1.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 10 2015 23:53 GMT
#1725
I asked you a question milo please answer q.q
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
June 10 2015 23:58 GMT
#1726
Scummy to not scummy.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 11 2015 00:01 GMT
#1727
On June 11 2015 08:06 milo109 wrote:
I agree with Fidei that the two of us are almost confirmed town. We need to find the last two town. Obviously, the night kill will help eliminate an option. At the -moment- I'm thinking of a lynch order like
VE
NMH
Damdred
Scott
Tictock.


Ok so take me through this.

Why did you vote me today (I think you did anyway) over VE your top scum read? Which btw VE had a small chance of being the lynch today over me quite possibly. So why did you make that choice when i'm third on yoru list?

NMH is aboe me but you barely mention him and don't really push him at all but you focus on your #3 on your list? Why?
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
June 11 2015 00:11 GMT
#1728
I've revised it based off of Today's play. Your reaction to the flip makes me think you might actually be town.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
June 11 2015 00:12 GMT
#1729
For NMH, imagine a world without him. I can't find very many feasible ones, aside from you/VE/Scott.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
June 11 2015 00:18 GMT
#1730
Wait. I forgot Onegu. Shoot. I need to revise.
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 11 2015 00:25 GMT
#1731
[QUOTE]On June 11 2015 07:42 Damdred wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 11 2015 07:42 Damdred wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 08 2015 06:30 GlowingBear wrote:
Day 2 Final Vote Count


Tictock(4): GGTemplar, GGTemplar, Fidei86, Chocolate, NydusHerMain
GGTemplar(6): VisceraEyes, Onegu, Tictock, Scott, Damdred, Shendelzare, Scott
Damdred(1): milo109

I put reads and confirmed towns into this information (or rather reads from my previous post as i'm trying to start from scratch and just looking at votes and what I think is motivations).

I actually read back through some of scotts past games and one thing I noticed is a completely different tone here. When he was town in his last game he sounded really jubilant and wasn't giving huge walls of texts at all everything was clear and concise and when he started to think he was wrong or might be he initially apologized to the people and then tried to work with them.

Here hes not really like that, to me at points he sounds angry and hes much wordier than he was in his latest town game, and the posts look more like his scum games. He blends in pretty well I think without pushing a lot of the thread forward himself. Also I pointed it out in one of my posts earlier about how crappy acting he was towards me, its just a horribly angry attitude and is vastly different then his last town game as well.

Also the most important thing about this vote and scott I think is that when he went to vote his first thought was Damdred is bussing rather than, my scum read damdred is onboard with this lynch what should this mean to me?

Also he says hes going to vote Fideli during the night. But never mentions him ends up on chocolate last night, well he does mention him that he looks better. But after he said if i'm alive i'm going to be on fideli etc. he doesn't really mention him during the day or try to pressure him.

He also has that weird onegu is town read that he has went towards and backed off of.

I'm kinda convinced that scott is scum here.

TLDR: First scum read is scott
His tone is different from his last town game.
Really angry sounding and confrontational
Rather than working with people and trying to see how he is wrong
Sometimes forgets reads or goes back on them at a moments notice when almost nothing has changed (oneg)
Votes with his scum read but just says it must be a bus rather than looking at the alternatives[/QUOTE]
[/QUOTE]

I also have had only one town game previously, and got lynched day 1. [url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/483492-newbie-student-mafia-ix?user=scott31337]http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/483492-newbie-student-mafia-ix?user=scott31337[/url] Here's the link. There wasn't much to look on - I went to sleep and the wagon built on me in about 12 hours and I only had a half an hour of time - I threw out my quick thoughts and didn't post again. I was town that game and I am town this game. I learned a lot.
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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 11 2015 01:34 GMT
#1732
To Milo. You think I might actually be town but you have me listed as scum ij your list, if you think I'm town surely someone should be above me then?

Perhaps Scott I'm probably not as convinced of your guilt as say I am on nhm, so we have this night to work something out.

Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 11 2015 05:02 GMT
#1733
Fuck me... Dammit I was really hoping Choco would flip scum so we had a solid reason to lynch milo. I've hated his posting pretty much all game but I just can't see him as scum given his unvote D1.

Now I'm totally lost this game. If it turns out Scott is scum and I just failed to look through his filter yesterday I'm going to kick myself so hard postgame. I've played with Scott in each of my games here thus far but this is the first game he wasn't lynched D1... and Damdred makes some good points... I'm not sure of my read on him anymore...

I'm pretty sure Damdred is town, which makes me wonder about Onegu. He's done nothing all game but push Damdred and has generally been useless...

I'm also pretty pissed at VE for the shit all he did D3, just rolled over and dipped out of the game. Did anyone who has played with VE see issues in my filter dive on him? I'm starting to rethink my read on him too given that move...

Nydus looks pretty bad too, but better than Onegu and honestly a little better than Milo in terms of posting (but not by much).

I'm fairly certain Fidei is town now as well, his reaction to EoD while a little overblown was pretty geniune. Though he is dead wrong, it is 100% part of Town's responsibility to keep themselves from being lynched, it's probably more important than finding scum tbh.

Dammit, Town is making this game much harder than it should be. Like at this point it's pretty clear that every wagon has been on town and that scum have just been able to add fuel to the right fires without ever needing to make much of a move themselves... which means it's not going to be easy to figure this out...
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 11 2015 05:10 GMT
#1734
Fuck, I'm too pissed off at how this game has been going (and work was pretty shitty tonight too) so I think I'm gunna hold off doing filters and shit till Day phase.

Hopefully mafia kills me tonight, I'm fairly over this game right now...

I'm not even sure who I'd suggest you guys look into if I do die, Onegu, VE, and Nydus are who I'm disliking most atm. I'd like to look into Scott a little more before I call him scum...

I'll be around if anyone wants to chat.
I can take that responsibility.
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 11 2015 06:19 GMT
#1735
I'm fairly certain Fidei is town now as well, his reaction to EoD while a little overblown was pretty geniune. Though he is dead wrong, it is 100% part of Town's responsibility to keep themselves from being lynched, it's probably more important than finding scum tbh.

This 100% worries me in a way -
On June 11 2015 14:10 Tictock wrote:
Fuck, I'm too pissed off at how this game has been going (and work was pretty shitty tonight too) so I think I'm gunna hold off doing filters and shit till Day phase.

Hopefully mafia kills me tonight, I'm fairly over this game right now...

I'm not even sure who I'd suggest you guys look into if I do die, Onegu, VE, and Nydus are who I'm disliking most atm. I'd like to look into Scott a little more before I call him scum...

I'll be around if anyone wants to chat.


If you are mafia you won this already - It's triple LYLO - I like you still you want to try anymore bud but I've lost my morale.

I have to still think you are town, and I know I'm town - and we all have to vote together or else it's lost.

Milo with this carry fucking unvote sucks
NHM and Onegu are useless but I have to go with Onegu town to make this work

I don't give a fuck anymore - I'll sheep you but in theory you should die if you are town tonight. I thought I was the kill for sure night two since I was the most townread. Now people are scumming me because they are out of options now Damd scummed me a bit and let it go
I did a light pressure on VE and he didn't wig out, I read a lot of his games and he does lots of caps as mafia and pressured.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 11 2015 06:27 GMT
#1736
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THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 11 2015 06:42 GMT
#1737
Ten posts in 72 hours?

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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 11 2015 06:59 GMT
#1738
@Scott

Lol I'll take one of those, I hope that's the conciliatory prize when Town looses one of these games.

You say VE didn't wig out, does him rolling over make sense for his Townplay? Like I'd honestly preffer if he had at least shared an opinion and called out people for being bad than just going "f this, I've done shit, vote choco".

I'm also unsure why you'd want to sheep me after those last 2 posts >.<

Like I'd be willing to sheep Damdred right now, but the last wagon he built killed our blue role (sorry Dam, I'm prob not gunna let that one go)

I think it's a safe bet that tonight it's one of Damdred, Scott, or I to die.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 11 2015 07:03 GMT
#1739
Not really game related post, sorry.
+ Show Spoiler +

I know where GB is... and when he see's this post I want him to know I'm not happy that we've been devoid of flavor text so that he can play in other games...

I don't care how tempting the dark arts are, I want more flavor!
I can take that responsibility.
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 11 2015 07:08 GMT
#1740
On June 11 2015 15:59 Tictock wrote:
@Scott

Lol I'll take one of those, I hope that's the conciliatory prize when Town looses one of these games.

You say VE didn't wig out, does him rolling over make sense for his Townplay? Like I'd honestly preffer if he had at least shared an opinion and called out people for being bad than just going "f this, I've done shit, vote choco".

I'm also unsure why you'd want to sheep me after those last 2 posts >.<

Like I'd be willing to sheep Damdred right now, but the last wagon he built killed our blue role (sorry Dam, I'm prob not gunna let that one go)

I think it's a safe bet that tonight it's one of Damdred, Scott, or I to die.


I'm just lost man - If we didn't get scum last night triple lylo is not going to happen. You are still my highest town read. I said I want to sheep because i'm frustrated.
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