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On June 03 2015 16:19 Tictock wrote:
Was just checking in before bed, game has been somewhat dead past few hours, so I'll just leave a few of my thoughts.
GG is my top scum right now. No questions. Was expecting him to at least react to my response or something...
I'm unsure of Damdred, though he's earning town points in my book for reacting the same way I did to GG.
I'd really like to hear from Onegu and def need to see more out of Scott. I hate to say it but scott could be scum atm. I've seen him lynched D1 twice now, when he was town he was active until he got tunneled and when he was scum he posted very much like he's doing this game. Quick little reads and short response posts. Also half his posts atm are just stating facts, nothing game relevant.
Milo does look kinda scummy but I'm not sure yet, I'd like to see more out of him. Right now I cant tell if he is actually scum or if he just looks out of place because he isn't used to this style of mafia. His frustration over being insta-scummed by several people is understandable, especially being new here.
What do you think so far Tictock? Has your opinion changed on me? You are being scumread by a few people as well -
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On June 04 2015 08:08 ritoky wrote:
i have some worries about scott which may legit be irl stuff like he said, but he is less pro-active and inquisitive this game. seems to be more concerned with fitting in and not being lynched which is pretty meh. but lots of people don't like scott...in fact no1 does. which might make him town.
Could this be how you feel about GGTemplar as well? I see very little resistance so I'm starting to get that mislynch him mafia doesn't care.
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On June 03 2015 09:22 milo109 wrote:
Sure.
I don't like VE. He's obviously a strong player, and I don't think he's contributed as many reads as he should have.
Sicklucker is an another possibility, but with people who still haven't posted, I don't think I need to find a third scum yet.
This looks like a "I solved the game" post which can come from either alignment, although unsure how serious he is. I saw Shining do this and got scummed for it hard when he was town though.
Unless this is a smurf, I do not see this read coming so early by his posts.
On June 03 2015 09:34 milo109 wrote:
GRR. This is frustrating me. I'm fine being read as scum for my own problems, but not for assuming that someone who hadn't posted was unable to defend themselves. HE WASN'T POSTING. THAT MEANT HE COULDN'T DIRECTLY RESPOND TO YOUR ACCUSATION.
Showing anger and emotion - Mafia 101?
On June 04 2015 09:28 milo109 wrote:
I'm back. Fidei's post is ... interesting. That's one that will hard decide his alignment depending on whether he is genuine or not.
He doesn't quote the interesting Fidei's post but he quotes every other post from his filter above and below this. hmmm
On June 03 2015 16:19 Tictock wrote:
Milo does look kinda scummy but I'm not sure yet, I'd like to see more out of him. Right now I cant tell if he is actually scum or if he just looks out of place because he isn't used to this style of mafia. His frustration over being insta-scummed by several people is understandable, especially being new here.
This looks like a really wishy washy reply about Milo- And i'm not town-reading Tictock yet.
I had Milo townread yesterday by his defense to the pressure though.
Still worries me no one defending GG much.
Going to sleep now I think.
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On June 05 2015 00:59 Fidei86 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2015 00:36 Chocolate wrote:
It's a really hard choice, honestly since i'm not really sold on anyone being 100% mafia I would just get rid of Onegu/SL as my first choice because
1. it's easy to hide as mafia if you never contribute
2. even if they are town they aren't very helpful
unless someone makes a very good case for someone else or wants to vote one of these people with me I'll probably just leave my vote on VE because it looks like he isn't going to get lynched and (I think) we need to vote for at least somebody I really agree with what Chocolate said about Onegu, save that the lurking is so obvious (and lurking is such a classic mafia play, as I understand anyway) that he would be mad to play like this if he were actually mafia. Still, I'm leaning towards voting for him just because I don't think there's any totally slam-dunk targets today and if we mislynch on him, at least we won't be losing anyone who is being a useful townie. Obviously I'm not saying that I want a mislynch, just saying that statistically the likelihood is quite high that we will, so we should take town-contribution into account as well when voting. Some people sort of defended him earlier, saying that this was just his usual play style when he was town. Can we hear from those people again, just to get their read now we're going into the first night?
Bad post - seems to look like trying to go for an Onegu Mislynch in my opinion, try to start a bandwagon. Is this from a town who doesn't like Onegu or a scum trying a wagon away from GG or Chocolate? I know Onegu isn't playing great, but he will shine his moments when need be or we can worry about him tomorrow. I don't want to lynch him today. Onegu thinks Chocolate and Milo are town though.
On June 05 2015 01:50 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I would like Scott's thoughts on my analysis of why the 'Chezinu rule' which he spent a great deal of thought on this game applies and points to 'Tictock' as scum pushing on Ritoky-Chezinu, not myself as scum pushing on Tictock-Chezinu.
I didn't spend a whole lot of thought, I copy/pasted most of what it was about from another thread. Your vote (and you never did really vote) was fairly early and seemed to be of starting a wagon going early. Do you know what I mean?
On June 05 2015 02:25 Damdred wrote:
If we policy lynch id rather lynch SL than oneg though because oneg has tl family things
I would agree because I do not see SL being re-motivated, but I'd rather not vote him today either unless you aren't seeing bigger fish.
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On June 04 2015 16:15 ritoky wrote:
well going to bed and i think this is the best lynch:
##vote: chocolate
he wanted to policy lynch scott for inactivity before the person he made a scum case on in VE, which makes absolutely no sense to me. when pressured and asked about it he gave some convoluted response about a thought process which never occurred in the thread, him having a read on scott that didn't exist because it was policy, and some factually incorrect information.
add this onto VE's case, and i think it is currently the best vote.
VE just stealth voted onto GG - I'm about 70% GG is town just by how the votes are going. The case can't be that great...
I already have a spider sense someone who's pocketing me is mafia - just need to figure out who.
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On June 05 2015 03:11 Fidei86 wrote:
@Scott - could you explain what you mean by "he will shine his moments when need be"? Have you played with him before?
He's really good at finding mafia when he's town, but he doesn't build cases very well. I've observed probably at least five of his games. He likes to roll mafia and enjoys it more. As town he's usually pretty meh the first day until he's got votes and such to look at - and that's why I want him for at least another day. If day two still sucks we can go after him.
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On June 05 2015 04:05 ritoky wrote:
VE, do you know what i find to be the most compelling reason to stay on chocolate at the moment is?
that you or i are pretty much every single player in the game's #1 town read and yet we are the only 2 on this vote lol. that shit is blowing my mind....
I've been thinking about this quite a bit actually, just haven't put it in the thread. Let's do it!
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On June 05 2015 05:18 Chocolate wrote:
I'm trying not to die
Then you got 40 minutes to start shitting some townie rainbows.
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I told him at least twice in our interactions about the voting thread too gosh darn it.
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On June 05 2015 05:27 Chocolate wrote:
KS, if you would look back, you would see I posted only a few minutes after you, I had not yet seen what you wrote
ok let me try to generally address the points against me
1. the scott vote
he wasn't posting, had a general town read and nothing else at the moment, very easy way for scum to play it safe, I don't feel he is scum at all at the moment since he has posted a lot more since then
2. going scott over VE
uhhh it was pretty far before the end of the day and it was a case of pros and cons vs. only cons at the moment
3. I seen scummy because I've been defending all game
It's a cycle. If I don't defend myself, I get called dodgy scum. If I defend myself, I seem to be scrambling. In either case I have to spend a lot of my time and posts defending myself which continues to call attention to myself possibly being scum
4. switching votes a lot
tictock vote meant next to nothing, scott vote was imo logical at the time it was made, VE vote was slightly OMGUSing, onegu vote I continue to stand by but if you guys want to interpet meta to the detriment of town I can't stop you, KS I don't want to die, he seems scummy (and for my next post I'll try to be more formal why), and bandwagoned me
if there's anything else scummy you want to bring up about me then shoot
This seems like a reasonable explanation...
Can you do a list post from scummy to town for us?
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On June 05 2015 05:30 ritoky wrote:
the more i think about it, the less i am feeling it.
##unvote: chocolate
What are you thinking then? I'm not feeling KS for today.
I want to lynch mafia but with a GG mkill a possibility -
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On June 05 2015 05:39 Damdred wrote:
Scott, do you think I'm town.
Why don't you feel a ks lynch
I have a slight town read on you - but you've done all you have so far as mafia, so it's not much.
What are you thinking? Vote KS?
If he flips town are you going to go "oops" and try again day 2?
If he flips mafia then we all drink and toast in your name right?
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The reason I don't feel it? a few thoughts and a lot of posting. I know he could just be posting to have a big filter and not say much and try make it look good. I just think we have better choices today.
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Tied now... Arrrrr Ritoky has some good points but I just seem mafia trying to shennanie on to a town now.
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I remember you saying that in my game when I got lynched D1 as town - and I jumped on another wagon instead of the popular one, and look - I was town.
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I'm starting to think both wagons are town.
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I just see more townies on Chocolate wagon then on the KS wagon (beyond ritoky)
Decisions Decisions
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KS claimed GUYS
get on Chocolate
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You should've claimed earlier when it was so close. Gosh darn it
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milo109(0): ritoky, Kickstart, VisceraEyes
Tictock(1): sicklucker
Chocolate(4): VisceraEyes, VisceraEyes, ritoky, VisceraEyes, Scott, Kickstart, Tictock
GGTemplar(1): Kickstart, Tictock, NydusHerMain, Scott, VisceraEyes
VisceraEyes(0): Chocolate, milo109
Onegu(0): Fidei86, Chocolate
Kickstart(4): Damdred, Chocolate, milo109, ritoky, Fidei86
Damdred(1) Onegu
Not Voting (2): GGTemplar, milo109
So Fidei basically hammered our JK/town, and milo unvoted with one minute left and did not add a different vote. It looks really bad for them.
Milo why did you unvote with one minute left and not vote someone else?
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