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On May 18 2015 05:08 The Shining wrote: GB on the very very very bottom, right hand side, link says turn on mobile enhanced mode. Also, your vote is cake. The cake is a lie. Am I correctly deciphering this as saying that you disapprove of GB's vote on Damdred? Would you go so far as to say you have a town read/lean on Damdred for his opening posts, or do you simply think GB's vote is baseless? | ||
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On May 18 2015 05:31 The Shining wrote: Nope. I am merely stating that the vote is not in the voting thread and therefore a cake and therefore a lie. A nonexistent vote can't be baseless. But you're going so far as to try and draw far too many conclusions from one post. Too strong, too early. Why? My post consisted of two questions, not two conclusions. I did not draw any conclusions, but instead tried to decipher your cryptic post and get confirmation from you as to what it meant. In future, please try to be clear in the first place rather than intentionally communicating poorly and then acting smug when I fail to understand you. | ||
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On May 18 2015 05:57 The Shining wrote: I didn't think calling a non-vote a lie was THAT cryptic. MY BAD. I guess you're just a genius but when mere simpletons such as myself see somebody write ##vote: in the thread, we tend to think of it as a real vote and do not immediately go check the voting thread. On May 18 2015 05:57 The Shining wrote: In the future, ask me what I mean if you'd like to know rather than wrongly interpret it. That's exactly what I was doing. I asked you what you meant because I suspected I might be misinterpreting it. On May 18 2015 05:57 The Shining wrote: Or better yet, don't tell me how to play and I won't tell you how to play. ........YOU were the one who started this little argument by criticizing how I was playing: On May 18 2015 05:31 The Shining wrote: But you're going so far as to try and draw far too many conclusions from one post. Too strong, too early. Why? sheesh | ||
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On May 18 2015 06:01 The Shining wrote: Ebwop: Sciberbia, you obviously asked me but I meant ask me without trying to direct where my post was going. There is questioning and then there is guided questioning. I don't need a guide. OK fine. If it bothers you that much, I'll try to refrain from asking you guided questions in the future. Look, I don't hate your posting style and I'm not trying to attack your credibility. I was just irked that you were acting like any idiot should have realized what you were talking about with '"the cake is a lie". | ||
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On May 18 2015 06:25 Palmar wrote: ##vote damdred 100% mafia. He posted in the QT? | ||
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On May 18 2015 05:20 Damdred wrote: I'm not sure what exactly is mafia-ish about commenting on someone else opening, rather than coming into the thread and not say anything. Unless you are saying that i'm not actually commenting, or commenting and not giving him anything to work for? Now if you agree with either of these shame shame on you. @Damdred Can you explain the bolded? Am I to understand your first post as saying "I'm setting high expectations for you scib"? | ||
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On May 18 2015 06:41 The Shining wrote: I realized I was being a bit unfair in telling you to just question me when you had but in past experiences, I've had words and posts twisted to conform to someone's motives so the guided questions just rub me the wrong way. Yeah maybe you're right, the cake thing was a bit indirect. I just don't like going too deep into a pressure vote with no actual vote. Not much I can learn from that. OK that is fair and understandable. The reason I was asking about your cake post is that I would have thought it scummy if you were actually "going too deep" into GB's pressure vote. But you might currently get a town lean. Maybe. Pending reread. Anyway I just don't want you to be mad at me all game. | ||
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On May 18 2015 06:47 Palmar wrote: Why are you guys talking to mafia. Just lynch him and be done with it. Idk I was considering joining your wagon on the premise that Damdred was super excited to start in the pre-game, but I have been getting a sad/sullen feel from his first few posts, which would tend to indicate he received a mafia PM. But on the flipside, his first post of the game was him setting high expectations for me. If I were mafia!damdred, I would not want to encourage town!sciberbia. Rather, I would hide very far away from town!sciberbia and hope he doesn't notice me. So I think his first post is a townie point. Feel free to try and dissaude me. | ||
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On May 18 2015 06:39 Damdred wrote: Well Palmar is town that's my first town read of the game. On May 18 2015 06:51 Damdred wrote: I'm disappointed in you Palmar, you've never caught me like that and you never will. On May 18 2015 07:09 Damdred wrote: Palmar thinks he can read me from a few dickish posts I made. So reasons @Damdred I feel like I'm missing something. Is there any history between you and Palmar that would help me to understand your reads on each other here? Why do you think Palmar is town? | ||
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On May 18 2015 07:21 Damdred wrote: I think its a nonsensical stance for Mafia!Palmar to take at this stage of the game that Damdred is scum. Especially given how Palmar thinks (highly) about how I play the game and how I eventually gain momentum as the game goes along and if i'm town I can easily get off the mislynch as long as I try anyway. I don't see mafia Palmar going after me early in the game. Plus hes done this before to me as town I think Damn this is a pretty reasonable and well thought-out response so I guess I can't vote you. + Show Spoiler + Of course it is entirely consistent with the theory that Palmar called you scum because you posted in his QT  But I'll wait for one of you to flip scum before returning to this. Sorry Palmar but I need further persuasion if you want me to vote damdred. | ||
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I agree with Vivax that Palmar could still be scum. What if he is scum and he's just calling you scum to make it look like he's doing something? He may not necessarily be hoping to get you lynched. | ||
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Best read for mafia so far. He does a ton of filter-diving on Damdred to make it look like he's hardcore contributing, but he's super wishy-washy in his conclusions. Just look at the amount of hedging his bets here: On May 18 2015 07:33 Zealos wrote: Although there was a post limit on Assassination... On May 18 2015 07:33 Zealos wrote: I'd lean slighty mafia but I'm not convinced honestly. On May 18 2015 07:34 Zealos wrote: Having said that, he has been forced on the defensive. On May 18 2015 07:34 Zealos wrote: One of Damdred and Palmar are mafia I think though Like why even post all your research if you are this unsure in your conclusions? Looks like a good candidate for someone who is trying to look like they are contributing but isn't. | ||
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On May 18 2015 07:40 Vivax wrote: Zealos is town, any objections? lol yes I object. What do you think of my post? | ||
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On May 18 2015 07:45 Vivax wrote: I see nothing scummy in not being completely confident into your conclusions, cause that's what it sounds like. Not that "wishy washy" buzzword you just used. As I see it he actually tried to deepen analysis on Damdred but doesn't feel too strongly about his conclusions. That's townie. You're starting to worry me scib. But let's let this play out for a bit. That's interesting because I was expecting you to scumread him with me. As I'm sure you'd agree, there's a difference between being wishy-washy and posting unsure conclusions. If he had concluded, "I have found some small reasons to suspect that Damdred is scum", then I would have been more-or-less fine with his post. What is wishy-washy is saying something and then immediately retracting it or modifying your previous statement to make it less forceful. "I'd lean slighty mafia BUT I'm not convinced honestly." "Having said that, he has been forced on the defensive." This sort of posting is typical of scum who want to look like they are saying something of substance, yet either fear retaliation from a town Damdred, fear looking bad if/when Damdred flips town, or are trying to delicately play a bussing situation. | ||
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On May 18 2015 07:46 Zealos wrote: It can only help town to have all the information in front of them, hiding it until I'm sure is at best a gloryhunting strategy, and at worst, damaging to towns chances of winning This sounds lovely and all, but in my opinion it isn't a good justification Zealos's post. After I read the whole post, my previous opinion towards Damdred's alignment did not change one bit. Considering the large amount of reading I had to do, it didn't really move the thread anywhere. I could on the next page post logs of every game Damdred has every played, and point to this quote as justification of why it is a pro-town thing to do. | ||
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On May 18 2015 08:12 Vivax wrote: Okay, I'll move him back to null cause you made me unsure. :D Awesome. I'm out to dinner. Will be back later. | ||
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On May 18 2015 10:42 Damdred wrote: I probably will. The thread is a little dead, so what do you think of vivax scib? Good question. I'm not really sure what I think of him so excuse me if I babble a bit here. In general I am not too confident in my ability to read Vivax, but this one time I played with Vivax in Smurf Mini where we were both town, and I found myself applauding every post he made, so I know he is capable of coming off really townie. That is why I was surprised that he disagreed with my read on Zealos, because I thought any experienced player would agree with my read (like you and Palmar seem to). I was also surprised when he called your post a pile of WIFOM, because I thought it was a pretty interesting explanation for your townread on Palmar. Lastly, I find this sequence of posts a bit odd. On May 18 2015 07:40 Vivax wrote: Zealos is town, any objections? On May 18 2015 07:45 Vivax wrote: You're starting to worry me scib. But let's let this play out for a bit. On May 18 2015 08:12 Vivax wrote: Okay, I'll move him back to null cause you made me unsure. He was so certain of Zealos being town that he started to question my towniness for voting Zealos. But then over the course of a few sentences I managed to move his read on Zealos to null. I was not expecting him to agree so easily. Since I know he is capable as coming off as really townie, and instead has puzzled me a bit, I will put him on the scummy side of null for now. Out of curiosity, why did you ask me for my thoughts on Vivax if we are your top two town reads? And I'd be open to you convincing me as to why Vivax is town. | ||
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