Generic Boring Mini Mafia

On May 17 2015 09:39 Zealos wrote:
Balance doesn't matter, games all RNG anyways
EDIT: Real talk by the way, I've already noticed I'm spelt Zealous in the first post. It's Zealos pls, like Zel-Oss

On May 18 2015 05:08 The Shining wrote:
GB on the very very very bottom, right hand side, link says turn on mobile enhanced mode.

Also, your vote is cake.

The cake is a lie.

On May 18 2015 05:25 Stutters695 wrote:
Vibing to the day post, I like that. Weekends are my worst days for activity so I'm not sure how much I'll be around today.

Definitely going to try and apply some stuff from the Assassin analysis to this game such as requesting people don't claim unecessarily.

On May 18 2015 05:31 Damdred wrote:
I'm not sure what I should be getting by his opening. Nor do I understand why you are queing on mine but its what it is I suppose

On May 18 2015 05:48 Damdred wrote:
Sorry no reads or leans on the first 15 posts of the game. Company policy

On May 18 2015 06:51 Damdred wrote:
I'm disappointed in you Palmar, you've never caught me like that and you never will.

Besides if you lynch me here you have to share the headline with GB, and do you really want that

On May 18 2015 06:41 sciberbia wrote:

@Damdred
Can you explain the bolded? Am I to understand your first post as saying "I'm setting high expectations for you scib"?

On May 18 2015 06:44 Damdred wrote:


I am glad that someone understood dwhat I was saying.

On May 18 2015 12:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Why is everybody capslocking?

On May 18 2015 07:34 Zealos wrote:
Having said that, he has been forced on the defensive.
One of Damdred and Palmar are mafia I think though

On May 18 2015 11:35 Oatsmaster wrote:


Thats a bad read.
Why was Palmar town for scumreading you?


How is palmar similar to assassination?

scib, feels a lot like you are making up a read for the sake of a read.

On May 18 2015 10:50 Damdred wrote:
Like this is where I'm working at atm

Scib is top town at this moment, nothing else to be said here
Vivax is probably second on my reads right now he's a town lean that I'm pretty confident in.
Shining and FB are on the same level basically right inside the null town side
Palmar is town leaning

Ze is a scum lean

obi is...actually at the bottom of null and everyone else I don't have enough on. Any questions lets go get this jump started

On May 18 2015 11:17 Damdred wrote:
I mean really though look at obis few posts and his vote, its so fucking weird coming from him
sheeping isn't necessarily scummy but he doesn't even try to interact with me. Look at the way he played assassination or ippo or the student mafia game.

Always inquisitive to a point at town and asks why gives his own thoughts, here he leaves himself plenty of room to maneuver without giving any thoughts that could shed light or even tries to see why palmar is doing what he is.

Actually I think obi is palmar here, like he just has no fear of sheeping palmar or concerned about palmars alignment just blind sheep.

move him to scum

On May 18 2015 11:53 Oatsmaster wrote:

This is saying "palmar wont do this as scum"".

Which is horrific reasoning.
Why wont he do this as scum? why is this specifically something only town Palmar does? Presumably hes wrong, so you are townreading someone for being wrong?!?!?

On May 18 2015 13:14 Onegu wrote:
Wait GB you went from Damdred is scum. To he is town. Then back to scum, and now back to town???

On May 18 2015 13:15 Damdred wrote:
What palmar never instantly votes Marv? Or others? That's like one of the most assenine points against me that is just a misrepresentation

There's a vast difference between opening here and assassination where each post is with a lot more when you only have 10

On May 18 2015 13:17 GlowingBear wrote:


My problem is this:

You say you won't give leans in early game when I ask you to say your read on me

Then you give a lean on Palmar on VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY weak reasoning.

Why?

On May 18 2015 13:17 Onegu wrote:



WTF are you talking about your most recent list post has him as town...

On May 18 2015 13:19 Onegu wrote:
I thought the divider was to another person...

On May 18 2015 13:27 Damdred wrote:
Yeah that's dumb and bad, your deciding a game that is more likely to have more information early(assassination) will have equal information to a mini without a post restriction.

You also missed the joke entirely

On May 18 2015 13:56 Damdred wrote:


I was going to ignore this post because it is honestly nonsensical.

There is a vast difference between someone who initially pishes someone for lynch and someone who doesn't question the alignment of the person pushing and the person being pushed.

On May 18 2015 13:33 Damdred wrote:
What's the point on giving a read on someone who tunnels on me every game for bad reasons as both alignments

On May 18 2015 17:33 Palmar wrote:
Here's a listpost. The following people are on my shitlist.

Onegu
GlowingBear
Zealos

shitlist has nothing to do with being mafia, although of course it's possible to both be shitter and mafia. But these people should be treated as incapable of being useful regardless of their alignment.

Thank you!

On May 19 2015 00:10 Zealos wrote:
Also whats with this love in with Damdred and Scrib love in on page 7-8?

On May 18 2015 11:28 Damdred wrote:
Well at first I wanted your thoughts specifically but I got impatient and just started putting whatever in the thread to get some discussion going.

Vivax is kinda being a dick to me and it makes me think he's town to an extent XD. But for a more serious answer, I actually get better vibes off of him for those sentences that go from thinking ze is town to doubting you to thinking maybe he's wrong. It shows a somewhat believable train of thought to me in this situation that starts with I think I'm right, he's sees you disagree says he doubts you.

Then however you deliver what I consider to be a pretty good reasoning on why ze is mafia at this point, so it makes vivax reevaluate at that point.

I think its a pretty towny way of thinking, he also doesn't immediately jump on ze here he moves him back to null to think more about it instead of over reacting and humping on him
also it seems he was wanting to pressure and call some things I did or didn't do into question. I liked it even if its just surface stuff right now.

On May 19 2015 00:38 Vivax wrote:
The thing with scib is that he's an amazing player and while I had an agenda-y feeling about him at some point he's definitely nobody I want to lynch today. I actually might just sheep him and see if he wins the game for us or lynch him if he doesn't.

On May 19 2015 00:38 Zealos wrote:
I think putting more votes on Palmar is the best play right now. Either it forces him to step up to the plate as town, or it causes him problems if he is mafia.
Having said that, if I had to chose someone to instantly die right now out of those 2, it would be damdred, it's a safer bet, given palmar is just causing chaos, whereas damdred seems to be posting some scummier stuff

On May 19 2015 01:00 Damdred wrote:
Lololol this is a hilarious thread.

IDK what to even say, my read on vivax is decent. Read on palmar is ok, read on scib is great.

Just a bunch of baddies

On May 19 2015 01:09 Damdred wrote:


Not ego at all I'm just content calling badies bad currently, I'm not needed in any front in this thread when everyone piles up on me

On May 19 2015 01:00 Damdred wrote:
Lololol this is a hilarious thread.

IDK what to even say, my read on vivax is decent. Read on palmar is ok, read on scib is great.

Just a bunch of baddies

On May 19 2015 01:17 Damdred wrote:


I've literally listed two mafia already who knows about a third one of the people misrepresenting probably or just parroting to parrot

On May 19 2015 01:24 Damdred wrote:
I think I commented on shockey initially and he still hasn't bothered to flag out call you mafia which is just bad, his throwing accusations without actually believing them is horrible.

Good point on ze but you got it not much else to say.

Shining could be a policy lynch don't think he's done anything scummy or towny in his time here. While obi has done scummy things

On May 19 2015 01:34 Damdred wrote:
That last point is dumb GB, if you take out scummy things people do then obviously they won't look scummy. Its a bad argument.

I really haven't commented on much ze has said, just that I hate a good many of his posts. Sci asked me to sheep him and I said I probably would at some point. I don't usually throw my vote around.

No clue if it makes him mafia lower end of null to top of scummy shrug

On May 18 2015 11:17 Damdred wrote:
I mean really though look at obis few posts and his vote, its so fucking weird coming from him
sheeping isn't necessarily scummy but he doesn't even try to interact with me. Look at the way he played assassination or ippo or the student mafia game.

Always inquisitive to a point at town and asks why gives his own thoughts, here he leaves himself plenty of room to maneuver without giving any thoughts that could shed light or even tries to see why palmar is doing what he is.

Actually I think obi is palmar here, like he just has no fear of sheeping palmar or concerned about palmars alignment just blind sheep.

move him to scum

On May 19 2015 01:57 Damdred wrote:
Obviously its a pretty funny typo. And should say obi is mafia shrug

On May 18 2015 23:20 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Three things:

Instantly votes (to drive discussion ok)
Says he's Vet on first day (weird)
List of people (Creates a list of people in the game who he thinks may be mafia or townie, which didn't really bring anything to the table. It was just copy and paste of some of people's opening posts).

To me, it can either be he's trying to drive away any finger pointing to himself or he's really some one has that has a role.



What if that different approach is being mafia?

On May 19 2015 02:56 Damdred wrote:
Honestly every time someone compares this game a non restricted post game to a post restriction game a kitten/puppy dies a horrible death.

I live how people say I'm just wasting posts when I have actual content and reads in my filter, I am going to be abbrassive and a bastard till I'm lynched or you atop being bad.

Stutters at least looms at things from different angles, others not so much.

On May 19 2015 03:13 Damdred wrote:
If all activity remains the same with content we lynch in the order of

Ze, shock, obi

Maybe switch shock and obi. And policy for shining and palmar if we go that direction

On May 19 2015 03:20 Damdred wrote:


probably at some point yes, we have what 28 hours till lynch?

On May 19 2015 05:11 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Obviously, I did read his posts which is why I questioned GB to start with, GB is still under my list and I won't truly know until Palmar is gone and now that I mentioned you, you turn around and accuse me with no real reasons and bandwagon once again.

On May 19 2015 06:20 sciberbia wrote:
##Unvote

I'm getting too many feelings of activeness/genuineness/fearlessness from Zealos to leave my vote on him.

Currently debating between 2 or 3 people for my vote. I might join in on Shocckey.
Would be nice if Vivax/Palmar would step up.

On May 19 2015 02:52 GlowingBear wrote:


You point out earlier that I instantly vote, comparing it to Palmar's vote, like it is scummy. Then you point out again that I instantly vote, but understands it was for discussion driving only. So why even pointing that out as scummy? And why not raising suspicions on Palmar, for instance? I'm your only scum read as far as I know.

Regarding the veteran claim, it was a joke. You should be able to see it because it was a direct answer to stutters "don't claim unnecessarily" thing. Also, you also admit I could be town trying to take a shot, so I have no idea why are you pointing this out again.

Your opinion on my list post is wrong since you say I only copy paste openings, when that's not it. I was also the first one to bring suspicions on sciberbia, so I do bring something new. Bad reason again. This means you didn't even read something you called me scum for

Then you bring something from pre game to call me Mafia, before I even know my alignment. Sounds like a joke but... Who knows...

On May 19 2015 07:25 ShoCkeyy wrote:




I pointed you out because you were the most vocal, but you didn't even respond to any of my posts from the beginning, instead you asked me this:



Which lead me to keep going after you, also, that first post can be scummy or discussion which is why I mention both. There's no true way to tell. Now that Palmar mentions he will follow you through and through, gives me the reason to believe he's mafia.





Maybe just by playing with them often has lead you to think they play a certain way? As I mentioned before, I haven't played in over five years, I don't know any of you here or how your playstyle is. I'm just also trying to learn for myself. By Palmar instantly throwing his vote where ever GB goes, maybe that's a different route. Remember that the motive is for Mafia to win the game, if GB is the leader he can easily tell palmar and obi to go after who he thinks is necessary. Would people believe it? Of course not because that's not their "style".



Because by being the least vocal and least responsive in terms of the allegations towards them, it makes GB look like he's in it for the town. With out either or, the town can start seeing what is going on here.

On May 19 2015 07:40 sciberbia wrote:
Dunno about ShoCkey. Not sold on that lynch. Some stuff in his filter worries me, but such wild conspiracy and connectionist theories are a town trait I think. I'll think more on it as we get closer to the deadline.

##vote: Palmar
This feels like the right thing to do. I'll be in and out of the thread for the next few hours.

On May 19 2015 07:54 Damdred wrote:
If i'm to be perfectly honest i'm not really convinced that he thinks that they have done scummy things, maybe its because its difficult to follow. But its some web of associative reads where the people just haven't done much else besides vote together or close together.

It's a bit strange but i'm just not sure.

On May 19 2015 08:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:


I am thinking how mafia would act. I'm thinking of a new approach on how a fast alignment can win this small mafia game and kill out the real townees faster than they can lynch off real mafia members. The alignment is what is confusing people they don't know if it's real or not. The vocal townee can just be an act, who knows?

On May 19 2015 08:26 ShoCkeyy wrote:
If you were a town, I'd be going after Shining or Zealous, but it doesn't look that way to me as of yet.

On May 19 2015 04:26 The Shining wrote:
Shining doesn't play very actively at all on Mondays/Tuesdays. He plays at work and doesn't work Mondays/Tuesdays. Check any game I've been in in the past and it's a pre-game excuse, I didn't realize D1 would land squarely on my days off.

Also, I'm dying, literally, and I'm omw to the ER. Good thing is, I'll have my phone there so I'll catch up and put out some reads tonight.

Also I haven't really read up to date, just skimmed, so if I come back to the policy lynch train, I don't really mind or care. Hopefully I won't die tonight and will be able to come back lmao. /darkhumor

+ Show Spoiler +

On May 19 2015 04:31 The Shining wrote:
Fck it, I'll just keep posting until I get where I'm going.

Stutters, why would you point out we've been in 3 recent games together, call me out saying I "should know" you don't D1 and that you're a bad policy lynch, and then turn around and do pretty much the same to me? If I "should know" you and your D1, you "should know" I open every game just talking shit and defensive to anyone who so breathes my way as town on D1. You should also know I don't play much on Mondays/Tuesdays, similar to your "I dont play weekends" excuse that you said I also "should know."

So why the hell do standards for me reading you apply due to past games but you don't apply to the same standards? Seems like a shit attempt at trying to scum me for things I've done in all of my town games, to varying degrees.

On May 19 2015 04:26 The Shining wrote:
Shining doesn't play very actively at all on Mondays/Tuesdays. He plays at work and doesn't work Mondays/Tuesdays. Check any game I've been in in the past and it's a pre-game excuse, I didn't realize D1 would land squarely on my days off.

Also, I'm dying, literally, and I'm omw to the ER. Good thing is, I'll have my phone there so I'll catch up and put out some reads tonight.

Also I haven't really read up to date, just skimmed, so if I come back to the policy lynch train, I don't really mind or care. Hopefully I won't die tonight and will be able to come back lmao. /darkhumor

+ Show Spoiler +

On May 19 2015 04:31 The Shining wrote:
Fck it, I'll just keep posting until I get where I'm going.

Stutters, why would you point out we've been in 3 recent games together, call me out saying I "should know" you don't D1 and that you're a bad policy lynch, and then turn around and do pretty much the same to me? If I "should know" you and your D1, you "should know" I open every game just talking shit and defensive to anyone who so breathes my way as town on D1. You should also know I don't play much on Mondays/Tuesdays, similar to your "I dont play weekends" excuse that you said I also "should know."

So why the hell do standards for me reading you apply due to past games but you don't apply to the same standards? Seems like a shit attempt at trying to scum me for things I've done in all of my town games, to varying degrees.

On May 19 2015 10:26 Damdred wrote:
Gb, gb, gb i'm not sure what to do with you sometimes.

I'm not sure that the "I don't give reads" thing is necessarily true at all this game and is a really really flimsy reason to even suspect me at thi sjuncture because...I've been pretty transparent about how I feel about anyone multiple times in this game, calling people bad when they act badly or have illogical conclussions or the way they are doing it isn't the most helpful but its better than defending yourself from parrots the whole game.

However I kinda like stutters, his vote on shining is kind of weird and uneven in some ways however his follow up post and explanation was rather good in a base type of way. I just wouldn't want to lynch him today I think his content is still rather lacking however, I have a meta read i'm using on him and it would put him more towards the null/towny than the null/scummy right now.

On May 19 2015 10:52 ShoCkeyy wrote:


It just seems weird, mafia players that can communicate outside of the thread make it obvious on who they want dead by their voting. GB is hard to pin due to his vote being scum/discussion, now Palmar and Obi, with their posting history and vote timing can seem mafia. I pin Palmar in the middle because if Palmar is Mafia, then GB has to be mafia too due to the consistency in posting votes and timeliness (GB trying a new approach) and Obi just bandwagoning on the vote list. If Obi flips red, it's because he's following the mafia player Palmar which won't seem like much, but in fact it's two mafia players in our face making it seem like GB can be the mafia player.



Because Zealous comes in following the foot steps of one of the mafia players. Shining is still hard to tell since he at least tried to post (but these aren't claims to them being mafia)



Wait, I thought you assumed Obi was Town? why the sudden change against Palmar and Obi?

On May 20 2015 00:13 Palmar wrote:
Also at Oats, I'm not sure this makes shocks mafia. Generally people who come up with convoluted and overly complex conspiracy theories are paranoid townes.

On May 20 2015 00:48 ShoCkeyy wrote:


Of course I will.



Ok, what information did it bring to the table? If it raised suspicions on sciberbia, then why has no one talked about him? He's actually been pretty active and seems to be asking the right questions from a town point of view.

Damdred isn't mafia, so it doesn't change my reads.



It is scum in plain sight.

On May 20 2015 00:50 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Just to confirm I was reading it right too before:



So I ask again, what information did you bring to the table if they don't have any good reasoning?

On May 20 2015 00:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:


But Damdred is town and sci is possibly town too... why does this matter about how weird their interaction was?

On May 20 2015 01:06 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Damdred defends himself accordingly to how a town would.
Sciberbia is constantly asking the right questions regarding from a town standpoint.

So what they hard aligned in the beginning of the game? That had my views on it too, but it turned out to be nothing.

And I'm positive I'm already a mafia lynch tonight even if I make it pass the lynch. I'm just trying to get out as much info on the mafia players of the game while I can.

On May 20 2015 01:32 Palmar wrote:

I think none of this necessarily makes him mafia.

He could be, who knows.

But I just don't think that's the case.

On May 20 2015 03:19 Palmar wrote:
GlowingBear I need you to sheep this case.

On May 20 2015 03:53 Palmar wrote:

I don't care what your read is on me, and I don't care whether or not you think Shockey is mafia.

Either you believe my case on Vivax and you lynch him, or you don't.

On May 20 2015 05:11 Damdred wrote:


Ok, GL getting me lynched

On May 20 2015 05:22 Palmar wrote:

Yes, you might be too.

On May 20 2015 07:08 Damdred wrote:
I think Obi is a sub optimal lynch on day one and how he acts around the lynch and during the night is more telling in context then when he's being a bastard under pressure generally.

And I disagree I thought Palmar case was good as did a few other people, it's easy to say x has a town lean but it's different when that lean does absolutely nothing for 36 hours which is alignment indicative of that person

On May 20 2015 07:37 Damdred wrote:
Stop,being bad GB. Vivax did not play like this in assassination he obviously cared and looked towny near eod where as here he didn't.

And again thus shirt point about ze who's on content at the time was in me how was I going to,engage him objectively at that point again?

On May 20 2015 07:45 Damdred wrote:
You are being nonsensival, not having a lot of,content I,can work with objectively doesn't make him inactive. That's just idiotic

On May 20 2015 07:52 Damdred wrote:
Hard claiming blue, I'll leave my final thoughts before end of night if a dumb vig hits me or if mafia takes me out.

Which I hope it does happen IDK that I was scrappy towards ze which I do apologize for I feel bad for the trolling.

This isn't a fun game for me good luck any questions just leave them

On May 20 2015 08:30 Damdred wrote:
The game really isn't that inactive though, some people do need to step up but it is what it is.

Also actively lurking eh stutters

On May 20 2015 09:33 Damdred wrote:
Might as well convince people I'm mafia before I shoot you during the night GB

On May 20 2015 17:15 sciberbia wrote:
Ask you what? Do you know whose smurf qwerty is?

On May 20 2015 03:20 GlowingBear wrote:


Explain to me why Shockey is town like I am a child.

On May 21 2015 14:46 Qwerty! wrote:
Can you explain why he is scum, please?

On May 21 2015 14:59 Damdred wrote:
Guys GB won't be playing for a year after I'm lynched.

Anyway shockey is a bad lynch eight now I think even though he's being kinda meh.

Anyway, zealos is a good lynch

On May 21 2015 16:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
I might lynch damdred if you could be arsed to convince me.

If not, im lynching shockey.
im just not seeing this shit being townie man obi

On May 21 2015 16:46 Qwerty! wrote:
I'll await your case.

That's a fairly pointless question. A lot of the reasons that people are scumreading me are really bad (trying to answer your question? vote switch that amounted to nothing and had no mafia motivation?). Better reasons to scumread me are my laziness and poorly explained reads.

Stutters695 is my preferred lynch at this time, I'm not so confident on Obi any more.

On May 21 2015 16:48 Qwerty! wrote:
Your case had better be a really good case.

You see the hypocrisy in this quote alone? Perhaps the reason he didn't die is somehow related to two influential players scumreading him? It can't be both ways.

On May 21 2015 16:55 Qwerty! wrote:
Obi's kept active and posting, and his recent posts have given me the impression that he's trying to solve the game. Mostly a tone read, partly increased content.

Again, Shockey is a really risky lynch, I can easily see him flipping town. He raises some good and insightful (if misguided) points. I didn't look at his more recent posting so much, though.

Damdred is most likely town for filter length alone. I haven't found the quality of his posts to be all that great, but I am comfortable with reading him as town.

On May 21 2015 17:24 Qwerty! wrote:
Many times, Shockey showed varying levels of suspicion of people. Even though I often disagree with how he got his reads, the level of suspicion indicated by his statements and how much he pushed the read seem to be related.

This post shows the same mindset (suspicious of people who vote together), but with regards to votes on someone else, so there is some consistency there.

I also like how Shockey picks up on a supposed inconsistency from Palmar, not including his scumread Damdred in his list (though of course this was due to a misinterpretation of Palmar's intent).

Furthermore, (pending a review of Shockey's recent posting) I don't see good mafia motivation for playing this way. He might be scum, but I just don't see what makes him scum.

On May 22 2015 03:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Best point on Damdred is that he hardclaimed blue and never claimed a roleblock or got shot.

Afaik he's trying to kill Zealos right now.

On May 22 2015 04:09 Damdred wrote:
100% have a town lean on someone 10% into game person doesn't do anything of value would lynch

On May 22 2015 05:08 Damdred wrote:
You know GB, this is just a piece of friendly advice stop making wagers about your playing time in games. Strong arming people like that is not the right way to play especially when you are wrong.

You have a narrative that you think makes me scum when it doesn't, oh well. When I flip town look at zealos and stutters both promising content and vanishing again.

They will probably delurk soon after this post

On May 19 2015 03:58 Damdred wrote:
Game is decently easy though,

I know my alignment
GB is most likely town here
Scib is really towny
Stutters won't be lynched
Oats/Oneg shouldn't probably be lynched today probably.
Vivax is falling but I like him when he is atm
palmar is palmar I think he's still townish

Shining is a plynch hope he gets more active
qwerty hasn't posted at all if we plynch it should be him

Which leaves
Shockers who's posts are just weird at the high end of the mafia spectrum
Obi who I think did scummy things but not sure if I would 100% lynch him probably would vig him if he's still being lazy soon
and ze

On May 22 2015 06:27 Damdred wrote:
Because Palmar put a good case out and he figures game out.

On May 22 2015 09:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


Zealos/Stutters/Shockey.

The Vivax case was okay, but the biggest issue with it was that Vivax never even bothered defending himself outside of his EoD reads post that got him lynched. It doesn't concern me at all that Damdred changed his read the way he did because I did the same thing.

I would revisit Damdred if he's still around tomorrow or on lylo or something, but that's it. We need to purge inactives, and if they're town we can't keep them around until lylo because we can't rely on them to make sensible decisions if they're not playing the game.

If they come back and make good posts then we can reassess, but until then this is what needs to be done.

(Plus, shockey is super scummy and we should probably lynch him at some point anyhoezels.)

On May 22 2015 11:12 ShoCkeyy wrote:
So I read most of your responses in terms of lynching me, that's fine. No need to defend myself against that because it would be a waste of my time. I'm here to try and figure out who's the mafia, not defend myself to the teeth as to why I'm not mafia, I already know I'm not mafia. I don't even get why most of you consider my posts scummy but on the other hand let people like Obi pass right under you.



It's not a theory, it's fact, you're scum. Also, I gotta ask, why are most of your posts worthless? and you have at least a few of these:





Your voting completely says another thing. You have yet to respond seriously to any of my posts, you completely ignore them and you sheep other peoples lynches to look good. Then there is Zealos, who I'm still building up my case on him.

On May 22 2015 13:02 Oatsmaster wrote:

"but why not lynching oats" implies that you want to lynch me.

Nobody else in the game even mentioned me being scum so you cant be asking why they think Im scum.

On May 22 2015 13:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
Also can everyone in the game just fucking vote please.
dont post, dont vote, how do we even know who you want to lynch much less if you are scum or not.

I'm extremely lazy to build that case on Damdred, but I'll sum up the points I may be working upon:

1) Not wanting to give a read on me based on early games' lack of information, instantly giving palmar a town read without even revisiting it.

2) The most important: giving a town read on Vivax throghout the whole day1 but ending on voting him in the end. Gave scumreads on obi and Zealos. Never engages Zealos. Never votes for obi. When obi was with aot of votes, Damdred orefer to vote Vivax, a town lean, arguing that Palmar's case was very good, which couldn't be read as that in Damdred's perspectice because: Palmar's main point was Vivax raising suspicions on Damdred but never doing anything with it. This is not purely logical - part of this argument is associative. If Damdred is town he should realise this is not a strong argument. Second point of Palmar's case is about vivax making a lot of random suspicions and reads, something that Damdred TOWNREAD VIVAX FOR. So this point shouldn't be enough to convince Damdred. Last argument on Palmar's case was Vivax inactivity, which EVEN PALMAR SAID WAS A WEAK ARGUMENT. And Damdred uses this to JUSTIFY HIS VOTE ON VIVAX, but only after OBI STATES INACTIVITY IS ALIGNMENT INDICATIVE. He simply parroted obi. If inactivity is a problem for Damdred, WHY NOT LYNCHING ZEALOS, HIS ORIGINAL SCUMREAD, WHO ALSO WENT INACTIVE??? Damdred raises a lot of suspicions on Zealos but NEVER really does anything with it.

3) When I talk about a VIGI shot on Damdred, he instantly claims "blue" (without even saying what his role is). This makes no sense from a blue's perspectice because: (i) I was the first one to raise suspicions on him and it was still early night1. If he has an important role, it's way more important to try to establish your innocence while discussing with people, and not claiming being a power role instantly because he could be killed by Mafia, and (ii) it doesn't make sense to claim he is s blue without giving his role unless he is afraid of being counter claimed. So, saying he is blue is a safe way to stay away from a Vigi shot in a closed setup game.
His blue claim wasn't a townie wanting to establish his innocence to avoid having town wasting a bullet. His blue claim was a survival one, coming from a guy who doesn't want to get shot by vigi but isn't afraid of getting shot by Mafia.

On May 22 2015 15:23 Damdred wrote:


GB hasn't drooped his acum read on me he's still tunneled as no other. So yes it does hold water.

Sure, trfel/oats/zealos. Its a possibility. Stutters is possible shock doesn't have to be scum necessarily

On May 22 2015 05:08 Damdred wrote:
You know GB, this is just a piece of friendly advice stop making wagers about your playing time in games. Strong arming people like that is not the right way to play especially when you are wrong.

You have a narrative that you think makes me scum when it doesn't, oh well. When I flip town look at zealos and stutters both promising content and vanishing again.

They will probably delurk soon after this post

On May 22 2015 16:03 Damdred wrote:
Someone almost hard claims blue and he starts falling out of my scum list. Ozk

obi asked me a specific question

On May 22 2015 23:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
I assume he means its the same damdred in linux and here.

Can you give me a quick rundown of scum damdred ignoring postcount?

On May 23 2015 04:43 The Shining wrote:
You want me to vote between two people I think could be scum over the one I feel certain on? K.

Meh I haven't done shyt this game. I can't be mad at this.

On May 23 2015 04:53 The Shining wrote:
This isn't spiting GB. Idk why he's so mad. His lynch is leading right now.

On May 23 2015 04:54 Damdred wrote:
Lol yes GB is the only one who played the game I hope shockey flips town

On May 23 2015 05:03 Onegu wrote:



Big talk after assassination...

On May 23 2015 05:04 Damdred wrote:
Lol GB, you treat players like shit and wonder why people don't follow you

On May 23 2015 05:09 Damdred wrote:
No you treat people like idiots I might call people bad but I respectfully talk to them and admit I'm being bm. This is honest advice if you want people to sheep you don't act badly

On May 23 2015 11:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Can we even think of a world where Shockey isn't mafia?

On May 24 2015 02:16 Damdred wrote:
Hobestly because you are going to be alive to tunnel whoever Tommorow and I don't feel like fighting every step of the way on any post I make like the rest of the game has been.