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On May 20 2015 00:48 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2015 00:34 Vivax wrote:
Can we get a wagon on Obi within the time I'm away? You going to push it Shockey? Of course I will. Show nested quote +On May 20 2015 00:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Dude you said my list post is just a copy paste of openings when it has way more information in it. You also said it brings nothing new to the table when it was the first post to raise suspicions on sciberbia
And when I show you this, you don't take a step back.
Tell me this: if Damdred IS Mafia, how does it changes your reads? Ok, what information did it bring to the table? If it raised suspicions on sciberbia, then why has no one talked about him? He's actually been pretty active and seems to be asking the right questions from a town point of view. Damdred isn't mafia, so it doesn't change my reads. Show nested quote +On May 20 2015 00:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
There's not even a case there. It's like...Just a bunch of random things based on me being lazy/casual and trying to sell it as a scumtell. It is scum in plain sight.
I've showed how WEIRD that interaction between sciberbia and Damdred was. Sciberbia saying that Damdred had good reasoning without when Damdred's reasoning was very flawed was horrible.
"Damdred isn't mafia, so it doesn't change my reads"
Please.
If you guys don't lynch this guy today I will be mad.
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On May 20 2015 00:50 ShoCkeyy wrote:Just to confirm I was reading it right too before: Show nested quote +On May 18 2015 13:11 GlowingBear wrote:
I never said he is, although he is. Just posting nonsensical scumreads without good reasoning or any reasoning at all
Why does it matter and what do you think of what I've just said? So I ask again, what information did you bring to the table if they don't have any good reasoning?
Sorry, didn't understand this. I don't remember the context anymore. I think this was regarding Vivax?
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On May 20 2015 00:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2015 00:52 GlowingBear wrote:On May 20 2015 00:48 ShoCkeyy wrote:On May 20 2015 00:34 Vivax wrote:
Can we get a wagon on Obi within the time I'm away? You going to push it Shockey? Of course I will. On May 20 2015 00:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Dude you said my list post is just a copy paste of openings when it has way more information in it. You also said it brings nothing new to the table when it was the first post to raise suspicions on sciberbia
And when I show you this, you don't take a step back.
Tell me this: if Damdred IS Mafia, how does it changes your reads? Ok, what information did it bring to the table? If it raised suspicions on sciberbia, then why has no one talked about him? He's actually been pretty active and seems to be asking the right questions from a town point of view. Damdred isn't mafia, so it doesn't change my reads. On May 20 2015 00:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
There's not even a case there. It's like...Just a bunch of random things based on me being lazy/casual and trying to sell it as a scumtell. It is scum in plain sight. I've showed how WEIRD that interaction between sciberbia and Damdred was. Sciberbia saying that Damdred had good reasoning without when Damdred's reasoning was very flawed was horrible. "Damdred isn't mafia, so it doesn't change my reads"Please. If you guys don't lynch this guy today I will be mad. But Damdred is town and sci is possibly town too... why does this matter about how weird their interaction was?
Because they can be Mafia?????
See dude, this is where your story all falls down. Your entire reads are based on association. Damdred hard aligned with sciberbia. Sciberbia made a big case on obi, one of your two strong scumreads. But you only read him as null/possibly town, and strongly town reads Damdred.
If you were the conspiracy newbie people are saying, you would never not be afraid of being pocketed by Mafia (being pocketed = townreading and being their puppet)
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Really, the incongruences in you play is very sound. I don't know why town is giving you leeway
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On May 20 2015 01:06 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Damdred defends himself accordingly to how a town would.
Sciberbia is constantly asking the right questions regarding from a town standpoint.
So what they hard aligned in the beginning of the game? That had my views on it too, but it turned out to be nothing.
And I'm positive I'm already a mafia lynch tonight even if I make it pass the lynch. I'm just trying to get out as much info on the mafia players of the game while I can.
So what if they hard aligned in the beginning of the game, like GLOWINGBEAR, PALMAR AND OBI, THAT YOU ARE CALLING MAFIA FOR
ARGH.
Town, pls.
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What fucking happened to your town read on Vivax, Damdred?
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On May 20 2015 01:32 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2015 00:27 GlowingBear wrote:On May 20 2015 00:13 Palmar wrote:
Also at Oats, I'm not sure this makes shocks mafia. Generally people who come up with convoluted and overly complex conspiracy theories are paranoid townes. Palmar, the problem here is that I debunked his whole case on me and when showing that he was wrong, he simply decided to ignore those points. I've caught him straight up lying about my list post, for example. And when I asked him to assume, hypothetically, that I'm town (which simply destroys any association), he gave a scumread out of association. He is simply calling 3 people Mafia and not caring for the rest of the game. He made a group and is trying to get this group lynched, but has NO opinion on other players. I think none of this necessarily makes him mafia. He could be, who knows. But I just don't think that's the case.
Explain to me why Shockey is town like I am a child.
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On May 20 2015 03:19 Palmar wrote:
GlowingBear I need you to sheep this case.
I would sheep you if I had a clear townread on you, but I don't yet.
Before I vote Vivax, who I actually think has a good shot on being Mafia, I need to know why Shockey is town.
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On May 20 2015 03:53 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2015 03:21 GlowingBear wrote:On May 20 2015 03:19 Palmar wrote:
GlowingBear I need you to sheep this case. I would sheep you if I had a clear townread on you, but I don't yet. Before I vote Vivax, who I actually think has a good shot on being Mafia, I need to know why Shockey is town. I don't care what your read is on me, and I don't care whether or not you think Shockey is mafia. Either you believe my case on Vivax and you lynch him, or you don't.
Alternative (C): I think your case is good and Vivax might be Mafia, but I think Shockey has a better shot on being scum.
I just want to understand why you townread him.
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Damdy your read on Vivax can change when he has done nothing new yet.
Lol.
Anyway, you have my sword, Palmar. I still think Shockey is more likely to be Mafia but there is not enough time to get him + my persuasion skills sucks
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To be honest my wifom instincts points out that a team of Shockey Vivax and Qwerty isn't possible, so I must be wrong on someone
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Pre-flip mindnote: if Vivax flip green I'm 200% lynching him day2
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On May 20 2015 05:11 Damdred wrote:Ok, GL getting me lynched
Unless you shoot me tonight, that's all I'm doing day2
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On May 20 2015 05:22 Palmar wrote:Yes, you might be too.
Yeah, I sure am.
Palmar pls.
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I don't see town Damdred giving a townread on Vivax, scumreading obi, seeing a wagon on obi being formed, never voting obi but voting Vivax just because palmar made a case in information that Damdred already knows
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It's a good case with no new information. It shouldn't convince you that easily. You had a town lean on Vivax. If you had a town lean on him, you should also not want to lync Vivax today, as I didn't want to lynch oats because I had a hunch he is town.
You have no reason to vote Vivax before obi or Shockey. Not a single one.
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On May 20 2015 07:08 Damdred wrote:
I think Obi is a sub optimal lynch on day one and how he acts around the lynch and during the night is more telling in context then when he's being a bastard under pressure generally.
And I disagree I thought Palmar case was good as did a few other people, it's easy to say x has a town lean but it's different when that lean does absolutely nothing for 36 hours which is alignment indicative of that person
People that thought Palmar's case was good were people that already scumread Vivax before. You gave him a town lean.
Now you're talking about activity thing, but you know this is shit because you've just played a game where Vivax played just the same + Palmar even assumed the activity point is weak in his case. Stop trying to pretend Palmar's case brought something new to the table for you. Stop parroting obi's defense on you.
Obi is a sub optimal lynch day1? Why scumreading him then in the first place? Why getting busy with him?
Why not engaging Zealos, your second scumread that you COMPLETELY FORGOT ABOUT.
Argh
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WIFOMinstincs (TM) are saying that Palmar is town if at least one of Shockey or Obi are town. He wouldn't need to build a case on Vivax to help a scum partner to survive.
Which makes me believing in a possible team of Damdred/Obi/Zealos or Damdred/Shockey/Zealos.
I may be wrong on the two others because I am relying on association, but it is a possible team.
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Sciberbia, if Damdred is town in this game I'll stop playing Mafia for a full year.
Anyway, I still have obi as null/leaning scum. I don't see his town assertiveness in this game (which made me believe he was Mafia last game, but I was wrong), but hasn't done nothing scummy yet IMO.
That's the problem, though. I don't have enough information to work on.
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