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On May 18 2015 10:50 Damdred wrote:
Like this is where I'm working at atm
Scib is top town at this moment, nothing else to be said here
Vivax is probably second on my reads right now he's a town lean that I'm pretty confident in.
Shining and FB are on the same level basically right inside the null town side
Palmar is town leaning
Ze is a scum lean
obi is...actually at the bottom of null and everyone else I don't have enough on. Any questions lets go get this jump started
HOW can you have a town lean on Vivax like that?
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On May 18 2015 11:17 Damdred wrote:
I mean really though look at obis few posts and his vote, its so fucking weird coming from him
sheeping isn't necessarily scummy but he doesn't even try to interact with me. Look at the way he played assassination or ippo or the student mafia game.
Always inquisitive to a point at town and asks why gives his own thoughts, here he leaves himself plenty of room to maneuver without giving any thoughts that could shed light or even tries to see why palmar is doing what he is.
Actually I think obi is palmar here, like he just has no fear of sheeping palmar or concerned about palmars alignment just blind sheep.
move him to scum
It bothers me, damdy, that you think Palmar is town for voting you this early because he likes your gameplay, but that Obi is mafia for doing the same.
So early on day 1, why are you so interested in the meaning of obi's vote?
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On May 18 2015 11:53 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2015 07:21 Damdred wrote:
I think its a nonsensical stance for Mafia!Palmar to take at this stage of the game that Damdred is scum.
Especially given how Palmar thinks (highly) about how I play the game and how I eventually gain momentum as the game goes along and if i'm town I can easily get off the mislynch as long as I try anyway. I don't see mafia Palmar going after me early in the game.
Plus hes done this before to me as town I think This is saying "palmar wont do this as scum"". Which is horrific reasoning. Why wont he do this as scum? why is this specifically something only town Palmar does? Presumably hes wrong, so you are townreading someone for being wrong?!?!?
I like this post.
Town oats.
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On May 18 2015 13:14 Onegu wrote:
Wait GB you went from Damdred is scum. To he is town. Then back to scum, and now back to town???
No, I went to Damdred is null (since my joke was only to start discussion)
Then I thought he was town for a while
Now I'm back to him as scum.
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On May 18 2015 13:15 Damdred wrote:
What palmar never instantly votes Marv? Or others? That's like one of the most assenine points against me that is just a misrepresentation
There's a vast difference between opening here and assassination where each post is with a lot more when you only have 10
My problem is this:
You say you won't give leans in early game when I ask you to say your read on me
Then you give a lean on Palmar on VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY weak reasoning.
Why?
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On May 18 2015 13:17 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2015 13:15 Damdred wrote:
What palmar never instantly votes Marv? Or others? That's like one of the most assenine points against me that is just a misrepresentation
There's a vast difference between opening here and assassination where each post is with a lot more when you only have 10 My problem is this: You say you won't give leans in early game when I ask you to say your read on me Then you give a lean on Palmar on VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY weak reasoning. Why?
Complementing:
In Assassination you were town and gave TONS of leans in very early game.
Why refusing to do so in this?
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On May 18 2015 13:17 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2015 13:16 GlowingBear wrote:On May 18 2015 13:14 Onegu wrote:
Wait GB you went from Damdred is scum. To he is town. Then back to scum, and now back to town??? No, I went to Damdred is null (since my joke was only to start discussion) Then I thought he was town for a while Now I'm back to him as scum. WTF are you talking about your most recent list post has him as town...
"6. Damdred
.:Townie points
+ Show Spoiler +
.:Scummy points
+ Show Spoiler +
My read on him is: mafia"
Uhm, no I didn't. I just put a ridiculous line between the townie points from the mafia points.
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On May 18 2015 13:19 Onegu wrote:
I thought the divider was to another person...
Yeah, it was a formatting error, sorry.
There are just too many codes in that post lol
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For now my "don't lynch" people are:
The Shining
Oats
Could Lynch (from "with fire" to "gently")
Damdred
Vivax
sciberbia
Zealos
Stutters/Shockey
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And now I'm going to sleep and reevaluate all I wrote tomorrow.
Good night.
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On May 18 2015 13:27 Damdred wrote:
Yeah that's dumb and bad, your deciding a game that is more likely to have more information early(assassination) will have equal information to a mini without a post restriction.
You also missed the joke entirely
I know it was a joke. But you refrained from giving a read on me. Why?
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On May 18 2015 13:56 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2015 13:13 GlowingBear wrote:On May 18 2015 11:17 Damdred wrote:
I mean really though look at obis few posts and his vote, its so fucking weird coming from him
sheeping isn't necessarily scummy but he doesn't even try to interact with me. Look at the way he played assassination or ippo or the student mafia game.
Always inquisitive to a point at town and asks why gives his own thoughts, here he leaves himself plenty of room to maneuver without giving any thoughts that could shed light or even tries to see why palmar is doing what he is.
Actually I think obi is palmar here, like he just has no fear of sheeping palmar or concerned about palmars alignment just blind sheep.
move him to scum It bothers me, damdy, that you think Palmar is town for voting you this early because he likes your gameplay, but that Obi is mafia for doing the same. So early on day 1, why are you so interested in the meaning of obi's vote? I was going to ignore this post because it is honestly nonsensical. There is a vast difference between someone who initially pishes someone for lynch and someone who doesn't question the alignment of the person pushing and the person being pushed.
On May 18 2015 13:33 Damdred wrote:
What's the point on giving a read on someone who tunnels on me every game for bad reasons as both alignments
I tunnel you because I can read you okay-ish. You give your read so we can understand your thought process. Also, I tunneled on you as mafia when you were ALSO mafia. Last game I reevaluated my reads on you from time to time. Not a tunnel.
I hate your response here. You could simply say you were joking, or that you had no read on me yet. But your answer was "there is no point to share a read on someone who tunnels every game". It's poor reasoning.
Also, there is no difference in Palmar pushing you for the lynch and obi voting you this early. They are all unjustified votes. If you read someone to have the courage to call you mafia as town, you should read someone who have the courage to sheep someone like that as town too.
I'll stop pushing this matter. All there is have to been said is said. I will wait on people's opinion on this.
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On May 18 2015 17:33 Palmar wrote:
Here's a listpost. The following people are on my shitlist.
Onegu
GlowingBear
Zealos
shitlist has nothing to do with being mafia, although of course it's possible to both be shitter and mafia. But these people should be treated as incapable of being useful regardless of their alignment.
Thank you!
Have you read ANYTHING I wrote?
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I'm reevaluating my read on sciberbia. I think he might be town. But even if he isn't, he gave enough information for us to work on day2 anyway, so he shouldn't be the lynch for today.
Shockey, have you played on these forums before?
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Oats, who are we lynching?
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Damdy, why exactly is Vivax town?
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On May 19 2015 00:10 Zealos wrote:
Also whats with this love in with Damdred and Scrib love in on page 7-8?
What do you think of the scum reads I've brought on that list post?
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On May 18 2015 11:28 Damdred wrote:
Well at first I wanted your thoughts specifically but I got impatient and just started putting whatever in the thread to get some discussion going.
Vivax is kinda being a dick to me and it makes me think he's town to an extent XD. But for a more serious answer, I actually get better vibes off of him for those sentences that go from thinking ze is town to doubting you to thinking maybe he's wrong. It shows a somewhat believable train of thought to me in this situation that starts with I think I'm right, he's sees you disagree says he doubts you.
Then however you deliver what I consider to be a pretty good reasoning on why ze is mafia at this point, so it makes vivax reevaluate at that point.
I think its a pretty towny way of thinking, he also doesn't immediately jump on ze here he moves him back to null to think more about it instead of over reacting and humping on him
also it seems he was wanting to pressure and call some things I did or didn't do into question. I liked it even if its just surface stuff right now.
This is your explanation?
Don't you think Vivax could fake that as Mafia?
He gives an unreasoned town read then simply states he felt unsure after sciberbia's post, without even exposing his thought process...
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Yeah, I think palmar has a good shot on being scum. I can see him doing that as town, though, because sometimes he simply doesn't care. We actually don't have enough information on him.
Anyway, who is a better lynch, palmar or damdred?
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On May 19 2015 00:38 Vivax wrote:
The thing with scib is that he's an amazing player and while I had an agenda-y feeling about him at some point he's definitely nobody I want to lynch today. I actually might just sheep him and see if he wins the game for us or lynch him if he doesn't.
Is he?
I've never heard of him before.
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