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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 18 2015 04:33 GMT
#221
What's the point on giving a read on someone who tunnels on me every game for bad reasons as both alignments
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 18 2015 04:37 GMT
#222
On May 18 2015 13:32 sciberbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 13:27 Damdred wrote:
You also missed the joke entirely

Can you explain the joke you are referring to?


Yeah I said I wouldn't give reads in the first 15 posts like a dick and it had been like 18 posts or something in the game
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 18 2015 04:56 GMT
#223
On May 18 2015 13:13 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 11:17 Damdred wrote:
I mean really though look at obis few posts and his vote, its so fucking weird coming from him
sheeping isn't necessarily scummy but he doesn't even try to interact with me. Look at the way he played assassination or ippo or the student mafia game.

Always inquisitive to a point at town and asks why gives his own thoughts, here he leaves himself plenty of room to maneuver without giving any thoughts that could shed light or even tries to see why palmar is doing what he is.

Actually I think obi is palmar here, like he just has no fear of sheeping palmar or concerned about palmars alignment just blind sheep.

move him to scum


It bothers me, damdy, that you think Palmar is town for voting you this early because he likes your gameplay, but that Obi is mafia for doing the same.

So early on day 1, why are you so interested in the meaning of obi's vote?


I was going to ignore this post because it is honestly nonsensical.

There is a vast difference between someone who initially pishes someone for lynch and someone who doesn't question the alignment of the person pushing and the person being pushed.

GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 18 2015 05:03 GMT
#224
On May 18 2015 13:56 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 13:13 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 18 2015 11:17 Damdred wrote:
I mean really though look at obis few posts and his vote, its so fucking weird coming from him
sheeping isn't necessarily scummy but he doesn't even try to interact with me. Look at the way he played assassination or ippo or the student mafia game.

Always inquisitive to a point at town and asks why gives his own thoughts, here he leaves himself plenty of room to maneuver without giving any thoughts that could shed light or even tries to see why palmar is doing what he is.

Actually I think obi is palmar here, like he just has no fear of sheeping palmar or concerned about palmars alignment just blind sheep.

move him to scum


It bothers me, damdy, that you think Palmar is town for voting you this early because he likes your gameplay, but that Obi is mafia for doing the same.

So early on day 1, why are you so interested in the meaning of obi's vote?


I was going to ignore this post because it is honestly nonsensical.

There is a vast difference between someone who initially pishes someone for lynch and someone who doesn't question the alignment of the person pushing and the person being pushed.



On May 18 2015 13:33 Damdred wrote:
What's the point on giving a read on someone who tunnels on me every game for bad reasons as both alignments


I tunnel you because I can read you okay-ish. You give your read so we can understand your thought process. Also, I tunneled on you as mafia when you were ALSO mafia. Last game I reevaluated my reads on you from time to time. Not a tunnel.
I hate your response here. You could simply say you were joking, or that you had no read on me yet. But your answer was "there is no point to share a read on someone who tunnels every game". It's poor reasoning.

Also, there is no difference in Palmar pushing you for the lynch and obi voting you this early. They are all unjustified votes. If you read someone to have the courage to call you mafia as town, you should read someone who have the courage to sheep someone like that as town too.

I'll stop pushing this matter. All there is have to been said is said. I will wait on people's opinion on this.
I'm adorable.
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
May 18 2015 05:06 GMT
#225
@GB
Regarding your suspicions of me, I am not mafia and therefore I could obviously explain to you the town motivation and reasoning behind all of my posts, but unless you start rallying people to lynch me (which I doubt will happen), I am not going to respond point by point because I don't think it would be a productive discussion. If town, you are currently victim to confirmation bias, but with any luck I will help bring home a mafia lynch D1 and you'll warm up to me of your own accord.



I'm going to bed soon if anybody has anything they are burning to discuss with me.
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
May 18 2015 05:26 GMT
#226
On May 18 2015 14:03 GlowingBear wrote:
Also, there is no difference in Palmar pushing you for the lynch and obi voting you this early. They are all unjustified votes. If you read someone to have the courage to call you mafia as town, you should read someone who have the courage to sheep someone like that as town too.

I'll stop pushing this matter. All there is have to been said is said. I will wait on people's opinion on this.

I disagree with you on this point. I feel there is a distinct difference between Palmar's vote on Damdred and Obi's vote on Damdred. Palmar implied that something in Damdred's filter makes Palmar think that Damdred is scum. Obi implied that he is voting Damdred solely because Palmar did. While you are correct in saying that they are both in some sense "unjustified", I think that Palmar's at least carries some promise of future legitimate justification whereas Obi's does not. I see them as fundamentally different moves and don't have any problem with Damdred coming to different conclusions about them.


On May 18 2015 14:03 GlowingBear wrote:
I hate your response here. You could simply say you were joking, or that you had no read on me yet. But your answer was "there is no point to share a read on someone who tunnels every game". It's poor reasoning.

I agree with this point on Damdred. If it is true as you say that Damdred respects your play, then it is worrying that he made some early jabs at you ("You don't want to make the headline with GB do you Palmar?") and then took another jab at you here instead of actually just answering your question. This point alone is not enough to make me think Damdred is scum though.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 18 2015 05:26 GMT
#227
There is a distinct difference between someone pushing someone and someone sheeping someone especially that early.

I'm trying to be nice but you aren't being really sensible
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
May 18 2015 05:34 GMT
#228
On May 18 2015 14:26 sciberbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 14:03 GlowingBear wrote:
Also, there is no difference in Palmar pushing you for the lynch and obi voting you this early. They are all unjustified votes. If you read someone to have the courage to call you mafia as town, you should read someone who have the courage to sheep someone like that as town too.

I'll stop pushing this matter. All there is have to been said is said. I will wait on people's opinion on this.

I disagree with you on this point. I feel there is a distinct difference between Palmar's vote on Damdred and Obi's vote on Damdred. Palmar implied that something in Damdred's filter makes Palmar think that Damdred is scum. Obi implied that he is voting Damdred solely because Palmar did. While you are correct in saying that they are both in some sense "unjustified", I think that Palmar's at least carries some promise of future legitimate justification whereas Obi's does not. I see them as fundamentally different moves and don't have any problem with Damdred coming to different conclusions about them.


Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 14:03 GlowingBear wrote:
I hate your response here. You could simply say you were joking, or that you had no read on me yet. But your answer was "there is no point to share a read on someone who tunnels every game". It's poor reasoning.

I agree with this point on Damdred. If it is true as you say that Damdred respects your play, then it is worrying that he made some early jabs at you ("You don't want to make the headline with GB do you Palmar?") and then took another jab at you here instead of actually just answering your question. This point alone is not enough to make me think Damdred is scum though.



Meh... Palmar implying? He just said 100% mafia... I still dont get the read even from GB. Like I thought he was trying to solve the game.
Try TL Mafia!!!
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
May 18 2015 05:40 GMT
#229
On May 18 2015 14:34 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 14:26 sciberbia wrote:
On May 18 2015 14:03 GlowingBear wrote:
Also, there is no difference in Palmar pushing you for the lynch and obi voting you this early. They are all unjustified votes. If you read someone to have the courage to call you mafia as town, you should read someone who have the courage to sheep someone like that as town too.

I'll stop pushing this matter. All there is have to been said is said. I will wait on people's opinion on this.

I disagree with you on this point. I feel there is a distinct difference between Palmar's vote on Damdred and Obi's vote on Damdred. Palmar implied that something in Damdred's filter makes Palmar think that Damdred is scum. Obi implied that he is voting Damdred solely because Palmar did. While you are correct in saying that they are both in some sense "unjustified", I think that Palmar's at least carries some promise of future legitimate justification whereas Obi's does not. I see them as fundamentally different moves and don't have any problem with Damdred coming to different conclusions about them.


On May 18 2015 14:03 GlowingBear wrote:
I hate your response here. You could simply say you were joking, or that you had no read on me yet. But your answer was "there is no point to share a read on someone who tunnels every game". It's poor reasoning.

I agree with this point on Damdred. If it is true as you say that Damdred respects your play, then it is worrying that he made some early jabs at you ("You don't want to make the headline with GB do you Palmar?") and then took another jab at you here instead of actually just answering your question. This point alone is not enough to make me think Damdred is scum though.



Meh... Palmar implying? He just said 100% mafia... I still dont get the read even from GB. Like I thought he was trying to solve the game.

Well maybe I am wrong, but when I hear someone say they have a 100% mafia read, I assume
1) That they are exaggerating by saying 100%
2) That they have some reason for thinking the person is mafia

So I think Palmar is implying that he has some reason for thinking Damdred is mafia, which he has not had the courtesy to share with the thread. It would be really nice if he could just spit it out and not leave us all here speculating as to what he meant, but I'm sure he enjoys the attention.
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
May 18 2015 05:50 GMT
#230
+ Show Spoiler [my previous question to oats] +

On May 18 2015 12:18 sciberbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 12:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
On May 18 2015 11:40 sciberbia wrote:

I'm sorry you feel that way Oats. Am I correct in inferring that you think my read on Zealos is a bad read? If so, what do you make of the fact that Damdred and Palmar agree with my read on Zealos?

well no not exactly, damdred never references your read when saying he has a scumread on zealos.

@Oats
I'm sorry to have to contradict you there, but...
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 11:28 Damdred wrote:
Then however you deliver what I consider to be a pretty good reasoning on why ze is mafia at this point, so it makes vivax reevaluate at that point.

Given this quote, is Damdred now also scummy for agreeing with me?


@Oats
I would appreciate it if you answered this when you return to the thread. According to you, my reasoning for voting zealos was weak, and therefore anyone who buys into it is scummy. And despite your claim to the contrary, I have now proven that Damdred, for one, bought into it.

Therefore, you must either conclude that Damdred and anyone else who buys into my reasoning is scummy, or admit that my reasoning for voting zealos is actually not so weak. I encourage you to do the latter.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 18 2015 06:32 GMT
#231
I saw that post, didnt pick up that he was talking to you.

Damdred is scummy, YES.
Lol come on Scib.

Also I hate it when people say they will lynch mafia but fail to mention who exactly should die. Which makes me feel like they arent sure about their top read.
No gg, No skill.
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
May 18 2015 06:40 GMT
#232
I really don't have much time this morning, and I'll post more when I get back from work in 8 or so hours. BUT, can we take a moment to discuss how dodgy Palmar has been so far??
He literally just jumps in, stirs up some random direction of conversation (Normally saying something that someone else has suggested) then just leaving the thread again??
He's got 6 posts, yet has "confirmed" 2/3 of the mafia team? wat?
I want to cross check this against another game, but until I have some time to do it, he's my strongest scumread.
On the internet if you disagree with or dislike something you're angry and taking it too seriously. == Join TLMafia !
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
May 18 2015 06:41 GMT
#233
Hasn't offered any reasoning, or anything of use to the thread, AND miss spelt my name
On the internet if you disagree with or dislike something you're angry and taking it too seriously. == Join TLMafia !
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
May 18 2015 06:42 GMT
#234
##vote Palmar
On the internet if you disagree with or dislike something you're angry and taking it too seriously. == Join TLMafia !
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
May 18 2015 06:46 GMT
#235
On May 18 2015 15:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
I saw that post, didnt pick up that he was talking to you.

Damdred is scummy, YES.

Interesting. Ok well at least you are sticking to your story.

On May 18 2015 15:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
Also I hate it when people say they will lynch mafia but fail to mention who exactly should die. Which makes me feel like they arent sure about their top read.

I will openly admit that while I do think my Zealos reasoning is solid, I am not 100% certain of his guilt, and pending future evidence, I reserve the right to change my vote. If you are going to hold that against me, I'm not sure there is anything I can say to convince you of my towniness.
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
May 18 2015 06:52 GMT
#236
On May 18 2015 15:41 Zealos wrote:
Hasn't offered any reasoning, or anything of use to the thread, AND miss spelt my name

I agree with your characterization of Palmar's play thus far. I think most of the thread would agree that Palmar's early play leaves a lot to be desired.

If you have time, could you give your opinion of ObiWanShinobi? Similar to Palmar, he has popped in and out of the thread, made some random posts, and not offered any reasoning or anything of use to the thread. Would you also consider voting him, or is there a difference between him and Palmar that makes Palmar more suspicious in your eyes?
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 18 2015 08:27 GMT
#237
On May 18 2015 15:41 Zealos wrote:
Hasn't offered any reasoning, or anything of use to the thread, AND miss spelt my name

I blame iphone

You're still mafia.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 18 2015 08:33 GMT
#238
Here's a listpost. The following people are on my shitlist.

Onegu
GlowingBear
Zealos

shitlist has nothing to do with being mafia, although of course it's possible to both be shitter and mafia. But these people should be treated as incapable of being useful regardless of their alignment.

Thank you!
Computer says mafia
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 18 2015 11:54 GMT
#239
On May 18 2015 17:33 Palmar wrote:
Here's a listpost. The following people are on my shitlist.

Onegu
GlowingBear
Zealos

shitlist has nothing to do with being mafia, although of course it's possible to both be shitter and mafia. But these people should be treated as incapable of being useful regardless of their alignment.

Thank you!

rude.
has scib said anything weird?

No gg, No skill.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 18 2015 12:08 GMT
#240
On May 18 2015 20:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 17:33 Palmar wrote:
Here's a listpost. The following people are on my shitlist.

Onegu
GlowingBear
Zealos

shitlist has nothing to do with being mafia, although of course it's possible to both be shitter and mafia. But these people should be treated as incapable of being useful regardless of their alignment.

Thank you!

rude.
has scib said anything weird?


scib is always mafia, but we never lynch him and he wins.

It's just life.
Computer says mafia
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