Assassination Mafia!

On May 08 2015 02:41 rsoultin wrote:


-sits on damdy's head-

my turn for lazy game. you have to work xP

On May 10 2015 09:43 rsoultin wrote:


mmmm happy dance doesn't seem too happy town here. stop. again. stop. then happy dance? i dunnae hts we may be on opposing sides again :/

On May 10 2015 11:20 Damdred wrote:
HTS and Trfel both seem to have a good tone about them and it seems it is easy to follow what they mean while it somewhat mirrors what RS says I think it is a good sign of things to come and both are good leans

On May 10 2015 12:36 yamato77 wrote:
Tina
Damdy
Kels
Truffle
Bill
LS
HTS
Oats
batsnacks
Onegu
glowingbear

On May 10 2015 16:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
glowingbear isnt scum, stop that whole line of reasoning.

On May 10 2015 17:13 Bill Murray wrote:
I don't play nice in games that have walls of texts. I am out of posts after this post, but just know that I did what I did to save all of you from my saltyness.

On May 10 2015 23:57 rsoultin wrote:
jat also gets a hmmm...the early commitment is nice but lol i doubt my hts toneread, awesome amazing-sauce as it is, is the only thing in this thread worth commenting on xP

On May 11 2015 00:09 rsoultin wrote:
7!



xP nope

i have faith in you \o/

@.@ term paper writing time

On May 11 2015 00:24 batsnacks wrote:
K well damdred is town because mafia shouldn't risk over 10 posts d0. Which means anyone who goes/went over 10 posts today should 100% be modkilled because that's unfair for mafia.

On May 11 2015 03:18 Xatalos wrote:


Right -.- And what's your read now if we ignore that?



Not 3P?

On May 11 2015 03:47 KelsierSC wrote:
LS has been pretty all over the place so far , kind of looks like floundering scum, pressured into a read and shows a bit of push back calling HTS scum, then instantly retracting and now calling her town.

On May 11 2015 03:49 Damdred wrote:
The thing is, my first read halfway joking first post and all of that jazz.

However LS why are you paying special attention to my intro but discounting all of my other content and inferring I'm Scum from it. And you instantly retract your hts read because of later content but not using the same rules with me.

That's not the town LS I know.

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On May 11 2015 04:26 GlowingBear wrote:
8/10

Lol Rayn is Mafia

I mean, TalkingDead

On May 11 2015 08:12 GlowingBear wrote:
It's a shame veterans are too afraid to be the n0 kill and not contributing at all
Anyway I've already out of posts so I'll be waiting for dawn

On May 11 2015 09:39 rsoultin wrote:


because the king of town is neither very kingly nor very townie

On May 11 2015 21:01 Palmar wrote:
Btw if Trfel flips town we lynch BH for TMI and if he flips mafia we lynch BH for saving scumbuddy.

In conclusion we lynch BH.

On May 11 2015 22:48 marvellosity wrote:
in any case your defence seems to be "BM is batshit insane" which as defences go is probably the one best applied to BM out of anyone in this game. But i still don't understand the town argument for how he did what he did, whether he's crazy or not.

On May 11 2015 09:53 KelsierSC wrote:
I think in the next tier. Sandro, JAT, Xat were ok so need to read them again and make a judgement.

On May 11 2015 20:38 KelsierSC wrote:
I want to see a lot more from him and expected more so leaning scum for now

On May 11 2015 13:11 KelsierSC wrote:
not sure why TD won't answer my initial questions, pretty sure he is mafia.

- did things I didn't like early game, the yamato as top town, the town-town business.
- very contradictory big list post, talks about GB like he is mafia then says it's town-town between dam and gb
- calls me town with "terrible reads" but he shared the majority of my reads, wouldn't explain this
- generally obstructive
- when he does explain it felt like an over explanation and he was twisting quotes to fit his narrative , too much information gleaned is what it felt like
- wants us to talk about other people without giving his own opinion of them.

On May 11 2015 23:30 sandroba wrote:

fixed it for you.

I wouldn't mind killing jat either.

On May 11 2015 23:46 Palmar wrote:

You have a new quest now JAT.

Find one person, outside of yourself, who took this post I wrote regarding BH seriously, as in something I actually wanted to do, and you will not be lynched.

However if you happened to be the only person in the thread boring enough to not notice that I was clearly just saying random shit, that makes you mafia because you're like the least funny, witty, relaxed person on earth when you actually are mafia.

##vote justanothertownie

+ Show Spoiler +

On May 11 2015 23:50 Palmar wrote:

Just to clarify because I know these things confuse you. That quest post was NOT a joke.

On May 12 2015 00:00 VisceraEyes wrote:

~5 years later and he's still an annoying ass. It's probably easier to just give up hope of that ever occuring.

On May 12 2015 00:07 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:

That seems retarded.

On May 12 2015 00:13 marvellosity wrote:

yeah I mentioned myself that I don't think shooting it down asap was a good play at all.

I think to answer your question (in amongst the double negatives) - if BM is mafia, it doesn't necessarily make BH town. but it would point that way (i assume if BH is mafia then mafia is afraid of town nukers and therefore wouldn't waste an anti-nuke on a scumbuddy's nuke)

On May 12 2015 00:37 marvellosity wrote:

all my money on geript

On May 12 2015 01:02 Half the Sky wrote:
9/60

JAT, where do you stand with reads? From reading your filter, you are scumreading ROL.

Who else?

(Also can those familiar with ROL fill me in on what to look for if he's scum? He is the only person I've never played with or hosted on the playerlist. Cheers.)

On May 12 2015 01:20 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay so I not even close to hitting my post limit so yay I can post more freely (bounces around the thread aimlessly). But seriously I donm't think TD is sicklucker or geript for different reasons. sicklucker doesn't post like TD does at all and usually bounces off the walls. TD isn't Geript because by meta Geript doesn't like that even in post restricted games (or his own imposed limit) he usually in his own catch up or imposed limit games he did similar to the style of posting I used in Night 0. I will check out tehppofter in a little bit to see how many games he played and check out his meta. I will report back when I done with my research of his meta.

On May 12 2015 01:23 Half the Sky wrote:
11/60



Regarding BM, the main problem I'm having is why he picked Trfel over some of the other potential lurkers or even Palmar by his own standards. To be that sure on one person without asking questions...

He also said he was working on a big post during pre-game....looked at his filter and he's provided some reads but I presumed that "big post" was on what he had thought on pre-game and his refusal to post could have just been a way of trying to skate by pre-game by not doing anything. I don't know his town meta so I'm disregarding it.

Xatalos is in the same boat as Rasputin - decent start but not posted in some hours. I know from Carol (which was his last game anyways) a scumtell for him is loose read, but activity seemed alright and on par in Carol - but does he just go straight up inactive as scum?

Vivax on the other hand has done jack all, and his scum meta (as is Yamato's, though I'm less certain on him for activity) is doing jack all. So why Xata over him?

On May 12 2015 01:29 LightningStrike wrote:

Good point I just checked 2 of his game and already noticed that it's not Tehpoofter's posting style either so who knows we just have to roll a rng die to figure him out. What your thoughts on TD?

On May 12 2015 01:41 Damdred wrote:
Can we not policy lynch vivax today XD maybe a day vig could just take him out lol.

I agree roughly that the pregame where BM gave his posts up and didn't do much is kinda meh. It helped me immensely at that juncture though. As such the excuse that BM used to fire the nuke isn't necessarily the least believable thing I've ever read. It's based on meta yes but I didn't feel it was horrible, it could of led to some really useful information and its a pity that it didn't.


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On May 12 2015 01:44 marvellosity wrote:

Not sure how you can say BM is a policy lynch when he's done actual really scummy stuff and Vivax isn't (although I do agree) when he hasn't posted anything at all

On May 12 2015 01:51 Bill Murray wrote:
I realize now what you meant but I guess I misread it before

and the differentiation between the lurkers is because Trfel is obviously mafia to me this game

if my nuke doesnt land on him im going to vote him. I am admittedly a little behind this game and need to catch up

On May 12 2015 02:10 yamato77 wrote:

he'll blame the post restriction

but he's wasted posts with absolute bullshit posts that aren't scumhunting

his reads are total trash tier

and his overall involvement with the game is at a detached level

On May 12 2015 02:19 yamato77 wrote:

read your own "reads" post and tell me if those are actually good

if you can do that with a straight face...

On May 12 2015 02:26 yamato77 wrote:

so you admit your reads are trash tier

good, we're on the same page

On May 12 2015 02:59 rsoultin wrote:
and i dunnae everyone doesn't like jat but i don't find him that bad? he strikes me as way more flamy when he's being scumread as scum, but since i'm not sure i was just going to let y'all pressure him and do my own thing trying to figure him out xP

On May 12 2015 03:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


Last Ver game had a fake nuke, but there was only one.

I thought that the use of the nuke was so silly that it had to be fake, but I really don't see the purpose or the "why" of nuking Marv, even as a joke.

On May 12 2015 04:24 sandroba wrote:
I really don't like jat, he feels very different from the town games I've played with him. He doesn't engage people giving him grief trying to figure out their alignment, but instead comes off as dismissive and angry. He also feels very detached from the game, posting statements instead of the usual inquiries and info digging that I normally see from town jat.
I don't think the BM lynch is going to be all that productive regarding info, but he seems to be a problem that needs to be dealt with sooner or later because suspicion will always be around him, especially if marv ends up not flipping scum, so I wouldn't mind a dayvigi dealing with him today.

On May 12 2015 05:12 Half the Sky wrote:
The same thing I'd say applies to JAT. Your last response to me was tentative, and I know you (and many others) want to policy BM, and want Vivax gone, but even with this amount of content surely you can name at least one additional scumread by now.

On May 12 2015 05:41 Half the Sky wrote:
19/60

EBWOP - at Vivax, also saying "fuck you bh" after he anti-nuked BM isn't helping your credibility atm.

JAT - what is your current DNL list?

Vivax - If you're not scum, then tell me who is.

Also regarding the recent BH nuke, I think it's a towny action, though I'm with Rasputin - explain what you thought of Trfel as you were saving him, or if you really saved him off a tone read?

Or even better, looking at him now, do you regret saving him?

On May 12 2015 07:56 KelsierSC wrote:


yes I understand that point, but I have also presented a case where BH is town, saying "you just can't see it being town" isn't true


consider yourself as mafia, someone nukes marv! who is likely town here, you can claim that you have no anti nukes left, but instead you decide to save him? that doesn't make sense to me.

On May 12 2015 18:58 marvellosity wrote:
Seen it been mentioned a few times, but I think BH is a pretty terrible lynch, certainly anyone saving me from a nuke I am not going to vote for today.

Three people who I think are good lynches, other than BM:

Vivax - somehow when I read his posts last night they didn't seem *too* uninteresting. So I was left feeling a little town from it. But in the end, they led nowhere, game has been going on quite a while now, not enough to hang my hat on

Oats - promised GB he'd try properly this game. I don't really remember his posts.

Xatalos - he's boring. that's enough.

I'm not very sure about my earlier Onegu read. I read Onegu + rsoultin arguing last night when I was pretty baked and I couldn't work out what the fuck was going on. Anyone have any bright insights?

On May 12 2015 19:10 TalkingDead wrote:

Is it really a policy lynch to kill people who have 8 posts about nothing interesting that offer nothing of note and more than likely will continue said trend? Because I call that modus operandi.

He's a far worse offender than Palmer. At least Yamato has some interesting posts.

On May 12 2015 20:52 GlowingBear wrote:


I'm not lynching Xata.

Let's lynch BH?

On May 12 2015 21:34 sandroba wrote:
I would like to lynch between RoL, VE, stutters and bats today if BM is not an option. Every other player did posted something townie to lesser or greater degrees in my eyes at some point. These 4 I can't find anything townie about them.

On May 12 2015 22:21 batsnacks wrote:
##vote Sandroba

I found probable mafia. Unfortunately I can't explain it without claiming. It's weird though because sandroba did nothing last game as mafia and now he's talking a lot.

On May 12 2015 22:32 Palmar wrote:
There is not nearly enough emotions in the thread about GB pardoning BM. Why aren't yall people who think BM is mafia absolutely frothing right now?

On May 12 2015 22:39 Palmar wrote:

Please do not post your findings in the thread because I don't care about shitty meta.

Thank you.

On May 12 2015 22:52 LightningStrike wrote:

He was abrasive the very first time I played with him Metal.

On May 12 2015 23:09 Palmar wrote:
you're right that was a bit dick-ish, sorry LS

But the point stands. Sandroba not posting as mafia in one game does not mean he cannot post in another, and because of the filter limitations it's not exactly hard to post 3 pages of stuff in one game.

Same with RoL. He's lazy and shit as either alignment. But he did jump a dumb remark from me (apparently a lot of people here are literally sheldon).

Like maybe I'm just wrong and bad about sandroba, projecting my own personality on him too much but he's now done two things this game where I just think "If I was towndroba in this situation I'd have reacted completely differently". Aside from my initial point about how him saying he'd keep an eye on marv was basically a pointless sentence that doesn't fit in (If he doesn't say that, can we then assume he's not keeping an eye on marv? Isn't the default position in all mafia games to always keep an eye on everyone?), there is more too.

1). Sandroba's reaction to me calling him scum.



Dismissal. He doesn't defend against my point and he doesn't try to use it to pry into my own alignment. He just outright dismisses my stuff, only to come back later and say:



Which implies he doesn't know why I think he's mafia, when I had already explained it then.

Also

2). His reaction to the BM pardon.

Sandroba literally just made this case on BM:


And his primary scumread gets pardoned.

This is fucking sandroba people. Not some random scrub who doesn't know jack shit about the game. Again, I may be projecting my own personality but I'd be so mad at this.

Think how I would've reacted if anyone would've pardoned GB in mini mafia mini thing or someone had pardoned WoS in noir 3. I was mad enough with people just not listening to me. But someone actively shutting me down? Fuck that.

I don't think sandroba cares, I think he didn't defend my case and instead chose to dismiss it and I think my initial point was very good.

We should lynch sandroba.

On May 12 2015 23:32 sandroba wrote:

So you are saying I'm mafia because
1: I said i would keep my eye on marv (????)
2: I didn't rage at GB who I think is town. (????)
Which is completely retarded and doesn't make anyone mafia in any world.
Despite my current level of activity and the content which I'm posting which I abosolutely never do as mafia because simply I can't keep up. Knowing who the scum team is simply crushes my interest and I have to try really hard to even pretend I have a scum read and I'm a lot more sucint and direct about my reads which I can't justify.
You've talked about RoL who I'll give a prise to anyone who can guess his alignment at this point with a good margin of success. You've said you think VE is town, but didn't say why. You haven't talked about Xatalos and Vivax at all which are the main people being discussed. You simply ignored what I've pointed out about BM and read him town randomly. Palmar isn't this bad. He is mafia.

On May 12 2015 23:37 sandroba wrote:

catastrophe I kept my activity mostly in skype which I find more bearing to do as mafia. If you actually look at the thread you will see my posting was completely different from any games as town. Anyway palmar doesn't think I'm scum. He is mafia.

On May 12 2015 23:40 Palmar wrote:
Jat you should totally vote sandroba even if you're on his team because that'll give you 200% extra town cred

On May 12 2015 23:46 sandroba wrote:

You are wrong. Palmar doesn't even try to post a case and just trolls until some people (HTS, TD) start questioning some of my reads. He takes the opportunity to try to make a push and prior to that is just trolling and saying random shit. Palmar does have a history of going after me after the catastrophe game, but nothing like this. He normally keeps saying I'm mafia, but does not push me and does not make BS cases.

On May 12 2015 23:51 Palmar wrote:

you suck

On May 12 2015 23:54 rsoultin wrote:


...

what sucks more is he's been pushing xata

what sucks more is i'm not seeing a role in the op where this makes an ounce of sense

...

so i don't know what you're doing, damdy, but it's not making me happy with you ^^

On May 12 2015 23:56 GlowingBear wrote:


If this is legit, congratulations, damdy, you've just threw all the debate regarding Bill murray in the trash bin since he won't flip.

On May 12 2015 23:57 rsoultin wrote:


dayvig doesn't flip alignment -_- how long do you plan on staying retarded? what use is a shot like this without an alignment flip

On May 13 2015 00:01 TalkingDead wrote:

Would you like a mirror?

On May 13 2015 00:13 Half the Sky wrote:
42/60

Damdred - really? You just shot BM?







What you did was incomprensible with your previous line of thinking.

The pardon (US hosts aren't around yet) would have accomplished that if I'm not mistaken.

Why did you use your day vig shot against BM when you could have used it against Xatalos or Vivax?

On May 13 2015 00:16 rsoultin wrote:
like i don't get the problem with a normal lynch or further discussion on bm tomorrow. maybe i'm just too new at this but how is an UNFLIPPED VIG SHOT better than LYNCHING him, TOWN OR SCUM?

On May 13 2015 00:58 TalkingDead wrote:
I'm going to take a nap. I'm going to place my vote on Vivax. Palmer told me he was a 1.5 of the sexy scale and I've heard that he's nailed at least 1 scum team solely based on that. He also told me that if he weren't straight, that he would totally let me get in his pants. I don't think I believe him about that. He's never even had sex so I don't think he even knows what he would like.

On May 13 2015 02:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Vivax seems like the most cut-and-dry lynch just because of how straightforward his meta is. He had one good post that I liked and has completely dropped off since then.

On May 13 2015 02:48 Xatalos wrote:
I think I'm the first one to vote for Onegu. Besides BM I guess....

That's what you get for being AFK until near deadline. It's not very likely that your scumreads will be completely original at that point, but nothing you can do about that. I've just been AFK, that's all.

I haven't even called Oats scum btw. I was just wondering whatever happened between those posts. He did post that post you mentioned a lot later but sandroba was already playing a lot different from his scum meta earlier. Why was he scum then? And not anymore?

On May 13 2015 03:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
This rso/xat fight is remarkably unproductive and uninteresting.

I'm voting Vivax unless a better lynch presents itself.

On May 13 2015 03:15 Xatalos wrote:
What's aperture Obi?

On May 13 2015 03:22 Xatalos wrote:
lol

And is he otherwise similar?

On May 13 2015 04:33 Xatalos wrote:
jat I don't think you've really expressed your opinion on Onegu?

On May 13 2015 04:58 Trfel wrote:
Bill Murray (despite probably being town) should not have been pardoned. It's likely that Bill Murray would not have been lynched. Furthermore, the Bill Murray wagon was giving a lot of information. Bill Murray also should not have been shot, it is easily possible to convince enough people that Bill Murray is town to not have the entire thread filled with it.

But GlowingBear and Damdred are most likely town anyway, their actions had no solid mafia motivation.

I think that I want to lynch Onegu today.

##vote Onegu

He says this when it benefits himself. He only made one post which I consider "more serious" than his normal play. And he hasn't been following through with this since.

But it's his continual usage of hearts to annoy rsoultin that pushes it over the top. That's just not a towny thing to do. And he hasn't been keeping up with the greater seriousness that he mentioned earlier.

His constant frustration at rsoultin is perfectly in line with how he would feel if he loves playing scum and finally rolls scum, but then has rsoultin scumreading him from the very start of the game.

It's not great, but I don't really see most of the other wagons. Though I could definitely see myself lynching sandroba.

On May 13 2015 05:21 Trfel wrote:
He's just being obnoxious. He's capable of playing way better than this as town or as scum.

It's just a policy lynch.

On May 13 2015 05:27 Trfel wrote:
Game of Thrones Mini Mafia. His play there is much better than his play here.

What makes Vivax mafia and not lazy, obnoxious town?

On May 13 2015 06:00 Blazinghand wrote:
waho whoa whoa whoa don't lump me in with vivax, i'm useless yess, but i used my power for good instead of evil, surely that earns me not getting lynched until D2 hue

On May 13 2015 06:07 Vivax wrote:
Many are like "low activity, disjointed posts" and shit and that's gonna be a lesson that meta sucks when people want it to suck.

Btw marv why unvote me?

On May 13 2015 06:30 Vivax wrote:
As for JAT you will notice he commented on marv's list as being ok but apparently the only viable lynch on it is me, as reinforced by his later play. There is no real interest in Oats and Xata even though he seemed to agree with the entire post, here:



Seems a bit of a too generic agreement given I seem to be his only strong scumread.

On May 13 2015 06:57 sandroba wrote:
Fuck it, I think my first intuition was right. I'm not voting vivax, I think he is town. A switch to BH would be the best I think, I'm not particularly sold on xatalos being mafia either.

On May 13 2015 07:22 Blazinghand wrote:
Jat's still a great lynch, so is Sandro. I actually stand by my emoticon-read of rsoultin, btw

On May 13 2015 07:28 Blazinghand wrote:


I think only one or two people on it are unnatural. Certain players (like Yamato) are fairly skilled and should be able to realize I'm always a bad D1 lynch. Those guys are suspicious. Newer or worse players like JAT, OWS, and Rsoultin are not suspicous for their votes on me (alone; obviously can be suspicious for other reasons) because these guys aren't good enough to actually townread me. Like, legitimately as town I get like 4 or 5 scumreading me for shit reasons every game, and they're always pretty bad players like JAT and Rsoultin who lack the pattern recognition skills or basic learning ability to figure out how I play. Legitimately Rsoultin could scumread me for zero reason and vote me and I would not find it suspicious because there is no play Rsoultin can make that is "suspciously bad"

But yeah good point on Yam

I'm vaguely suspicious of you GB becasue I seem to remember you wanted to lynch me, and now that it's actually happening, here are you are defending me, maybe to get towncred when I flip?

On May 13 2015 08:16 GlowingBear wrote:


Vivax has the same amount of votes Xatalos has after I voted him.
Vote Vivax to save yourself and lynch scum

Yamato is only berating me, he says BH isn't scum for bad usage of his role but votes BH because of the usage of his role LOL YOU'RE HILARIOUS YAMATO

On May 13 2015 08:32 Blazinghand wrote:


I'm obvious lynch bait. Look, JAT and Rsoultin have personal animus against me, so they're always gonna vote me (no matter what they say about cases or what not).

On May 13 2015 08:33 marvellosity wrote:
i'm stoned and a bit confused

it seems like bh is posting better than vivax at least

On May 13 2015 08:45 Trfel wrote:
Does anyone want to switch to KelsierSC?

The only reason that I think he is town is meta and activity. Meta being that he was very aggressively poking at people earlier, but in his town games he tends to townread people early (this is uncertain, though, since I did not find a scum game of his where he posted early in the game).

His reads have changed with seemingly little reason and his focus has been on the wrong things. I find it hard to see his reads coming from a town mindset.

On May 13 2015 08:48 Trfel wrote:
The timing is not ideal, but deal with it. I've told you why I'm not completely sure on him, but I his weird reads as of late are really making me want to lynch him more.

On May 14 2015 01:56 Half the Sky wrote:
In Titanic, I case town Fecalfeast, push his lynch like crazy, and both Damd and Palmar simply said "good case" and regardless of their read on me, sheeped it. Same thing happened when I cased Rayn, who was eventually lynched that game. This game, besides the issue with marv as cited (if he wasn't sure on Vivax, and considering I'm not a top-tier town with reads, why didn't Marv show more skepticism towards the quality of my reads), offhand I know JAT replied "fine" when I yelled for the thread to get on Vivax but aside from Marv, I need to see who else looked bad.


Just looking at the isolated wagons, Bats, Onegu, LS, ROL and Palmar look pretty bad. I know Onegu was scumreading LS and Ras, LS was looking bad to people, so the question remains for Onegu why he didn't push LS more.

24 players after the BM kill. 21 voters. Non-voters were VE and Stutters.

VE I recalled coming in asking who was getting lynched and asks Yamato about 45 minutes prior to EoD whilst the fracas with the BH/Xata/Vivax was going about and AFKing until well after. It's almost like he didn't care as to whom was getting lynched. Why he AFKed especially without voting that close to EoD, I have no idea.

It sounds like he's been around long enough he probably knows Hapa/Ver don't modkill for no-votes (I assume), if it were BH or another host that did modkill it might be easier to think the no-voters were likely town, so we can't conclude that. Though it doesn't make them mafia, AFKing the vote I think makes VE look poor.

............and after copying and pasting I see VE is here in thread.

VE, you asked who was getting lynched one hour prior to EoD when everything was going down.
Why'd you AFK after you asked Yamato a question about BH? Better yet, that close to EoD, why did you fail to vote?

On May 13 2015 23:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
TOWN
21. VisceraEyes
1. marvellosity
3. GlowingBear
4. Trfel
5. sandroba
6. Half the Sky
8. yamato77
11. rsoultin
18. KelsierSC
19. TalkingDead
23. Vivax

MAFIA
2. Onegu
7. Xatalos
9. batsnacks
12. Oatsmaster
15. RebirthOfLeGenD
20. Palmar

IDONTKNOW
10. ObiWanShinobi
13. LightningStrike
14. Blazinghand
16. Bill Murray
17. Damdred
22. justanothertownie
24. Stutters695

This is where I'm at currently. As for my mafia list, Onegu and Xata are pretty much either/or...if one of them is mafia, the other probably is not. They've both done things I would classify as scummy, but Xata was going on and on about Onegu being the Traitor and voted for him (uselessy) D1. I...don't think they do that as mafia/mafia.

Batsnacks is pretty straight-forward. I mentioned earlier how he came into the game early on spouting nonsense, and then when he came back he pretended to have contributions (Sandroba is mafia, but I can't tell you why because ROOOOLLEEEE).

Oatsmaster is more of a tone read. As town I feel like Oats gives fewer fucks what people say and think, and in this game he seems to care a great deal what people think.

RoL is probably mafia because of his repeated promises to contribute and then lack of following through. I think he does this as either alignment, but as town he actually has content in his few bouts of activity. This game we get ZERO content. It reminds me very much of his play in Storm, where he was AFK mafia.

Palmar is just fun to lynch, but I also think he's probably mafia here too. His case on sandroba is laughably bad (in that it ignores the fact that sandroba is capable of everything Palmar is accusing him of as town, and meta-wise sandroba is like never mafia this game) and his responses to people calling it bad are bad (marv is mafia?!?!?!).

On May 13 2015 09:00 Hapahauli wrote:

Vote Count:

Vivax (9) - LightningStrike, BlazingHand, Marvellosity, Xatalos, Half The Sky, KelsierSC, TalkingDead, Justanothertownie, Oatsmaster,
Xatalos (2) - Vivax, LightningStrike
Rsoultin (1) - Onegu
Palmar (1) - RebirthOfLegend
Sandroba (2) - Palmar, Batsnacks
BlazingHand (7) - rsoultin, Sandroba, Yamato77, ObiWanShinobi, Damdred, Trfel, GlowingBear,

until lynch!

Vivax is set to be lynched!

On May 14 2015 02:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
Damdred is there because of the BM shot. He seems townie enough, but shooting someone like BM with no flip was terribad. I get that he had to die, but I wanted him to flip and I think others wanted him to flip too. Damdred removed that possibility.

As townie as he sounds, he's capable of sounding townie as mafia. I'm just being cautious.

On May 14 2015 02:53 VisceraEyes wrote:

Well we can agree to disagree about one of my unsure reads.

What do you think about my mafia reads? You mentioned moving BH down to my mafia list, and disagree with my Damdred (non)read, what about my mafia reads?

On May 14 2015 04:19 Blazinghand wrote:
4/15



kk trash prepare to get taken out. you're obviously secondary to more important/relevant people like GB but you will not survive to and end game town victory this game, on my honor as a Scotsman

On May 14 2015 04:26 batsnacks wrote:
No one tell BH why this ^ is wrong.

On May 14 2015 07:38 sandroba wrote:
BH, I find it hard to believe that you think that any mafia would pardon BM d1 in that situation.

On May 14 2015 22:41 LightningStrike wrote:
You know fuck it I was hiding my role but I am the Martyr I was protecting GlowingBear incase he was targeted by KP because I thought he would get shot was thinking of protect him or Sandroba but I felt like GlowingBear was the better shot for scum since he can push hard for lynches from my experience playing with him. Also I wasn't here at End of Day 1 at deadline I even admitted it here:
I didn't expect Vivax to get lynched my vote was on someone who I thought a wagon would happen on (Xata).

On May 14 2015 22:56 VisceraEyes wrote:

Ugh why do you always appear and say something as if you've been following along and just not posting? It makes it really hard to townread you JAT.

On May 14 2015 23:00 rsoultin wrote:
6/60

lol, it's a blue flood! \o/

(so, um, likelihood bm was town is like minimal at this point, lol >< but does anyone else have a little trouble with the sheer number of claims raining down?)

On May 14 2015 23:04 rsoultin wrote:


<3?

i did say they should wait for bats? you're in my null category. i'm sorry :/ i'm used to you having more of a thread presence as town but that's mostly feeeeeeels when apparently are not good things to rellllyyyyy on lol :/

On May 14 2015 23:08 rsoultin wrote:


8/50

btw, this is now officially in effect. bro comes in in the next two hours, so yeah i'll be as present as is reasonable

who should we lynch, jat?

On May 14 2015 23:11 rsoultin wrote:


10/50

if you can get it rolling, have fun? it wouldn't help town win, though xP salty

i'll check back later. more important things to do lol

On May 14 2015 23:08 rsoultin wrote:


8/50

btw, this is now officially in effect. bro comes in in the next two hours, so yeah i'll be as present as is reasonable

On May 14 2015 23:15 rsoultin wrote:


11/50

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

if you've got a real reason i'll address it. otherwise, whatever

i'm more interested in you know actual possible scum you want to lynch

or thoughts on my initial how the hell are there so many blue claims question

but you know

you can keep wasting your time that's fine xP

it might well be your wincon to lynch me anyway if you can change your opinion that fast over nothing -salutes-

On May 14 2015 23:20 rsoultin wrote:


12/50

clearly not ^^

On May 14 2015 23:23 rsoultin wrote:
13/50

that was brilliant if it's real lol enjoy the fall-out xP

On May 14 2015 23:26 rsoultin wrote:


14/50

what? you expected more? i think it's hilarious that you may have just shot a townie...and frankly i didn't have much time to play anyway so neener neener neener xP

-shakes tail feathers at-

On May 14 2015 23:29 LightningStrike wrote:

I protect 1 person every night if they get targeted by KP I take the kp instead. I just tired of people thinking I am scum based on BH being town.......

On May 14 2015 23:32 rsoultin wrote:


15/50

except you know the small, perhaps insignificant -cough- fact that i got this lovely role pm that says otherwise xP apart from practically being confirmed town anyway...oh and like the only people who actually think i'm scum are like...onegu lol

i hope you're scum and i hope they lynch you for shooting me and that i can laugh from the obs qt after i graduate...an awesome graduation present ^^

and if you're town well...then you're just more stupid than 90% of the players here. enjoy that

On May 14 2015 23:37 rsoultin wrote:
16/50

pssssst jat you do realize that pretending you're 100% sure i'm scum will not actually convince people you're not scum when i flip yeah? xP

On May 14 2015 23:41 rsoultin wrote:
17/50

:/ i'm actually sad. it would have been fun to watch you get lynched form the obs qt for a nonsensical 180 like that

On May 14 2015 23:44 rsoultin wrote:
18/50

i'm obviously town -yawns- you were so sure of it you were all white-knighting wonder! then you don't like that i'm not townreading you and grrrr ise gonna shoot you scum! yeah that's just silly lol

On May 15 2015 00:26 rsoultin wrote:
Lol sure. jat with the ego the size of a small country thinking as town that the only way he can catch a scum rsoul is on spontaneous feels after townreading her all game. very believable xP

Lol pls tell me the shots for real would so make my day

On May 15 2015 00:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like rsoultin are you suggesting that the most sensible conclusion from what I've posted is that mafiaMarv the mason recruiter recruited mafiaPalmar and townVE into a mason chat? Or that there's no mason chat and that mafiaVE is....what, trying to cover for his partner mafiaMarv?

Like what are you saying is going on exactly?

On May 11 2015 05:06 rsoultin wrote:
ze awesome ones:

hts - clear town after posting xP
jat - missed his second post lol >< fail rsoul

On May 15 2015 00:37 rsoultin wrote:
20/50

onto a much more interesting question than whether or not jat's scum or just an imbecile

On May 15 2015 00:50 rsoultin wrote:
23/50

if you're town shut up jat

this is more interesting

On May 15 2015 00:54 rsoultin wrote:


24/50

mafia assassin -> role claims

and that's assuming VE is telling the truth

On May 15 2015 00:58 rsoultin wrote:
25/50

marv is awol xP

you're also missing the whole, ve can be dumb town and marv can be scum

thing

On May 15 2015 00:52 justanothertownie wrote:

lol, what's interesting about that? Why on earth would scummarv make a qt with scum Palmar in it? What is the point? Why would scum even have this role?

On May 15 2015 00:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
JAT was your shot real? I kinda have to know now.

On May 15 2015 01:01 VisceraEyes wrote:

Because I kinda want to shoot rsoul for being an inflammatory crazy element in the game regardless of her alignment...if your shot isn't real.

On May 15 2015 01:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
If that shot goes through we are 1000% lynching Jat.

On May 15 2015 01:10 Stutters695 wrote:


Just skimmed this, but there is nothing that specifies that day-vigs are only town is there?

On May 15 2015 01:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Kill Jat.

On May 15 2015 01:19 GlowingBear wrote:


I want you dead twice.

Not shooting you was horrible. I should listen more to myself sometimes, instead of trying to discuss with people

On May 15 2015 01:29 marvellosity wrote:

because i like sandroba and he is good

On May 15 2015 01:32 batsnacks wrote:
Wtf guys I told you I am capable of checking alignments and you should not shoot these people:

Oats
Rsoultin
Jat

On May 15 2015 01:33 VisceraEyes wrote:

What a waste that would have been in hindsight though!

On May 15 2015 01:34 marvellosity wrote:

I guess you missed the "and he is good" bit

and also the "I like him" bit

On May 15 2015 01:35 batsnacks wrote:


How did you not realize she was town you're both the same role?

On May 15 2015 01:36 marvellosity wrote:

maybe, but i'm having a nice little titter

On May 15 2015 01:37 batsnacks wrote:


Your role = rsoultin's role

Why do you think I know you're town and no one else does? You think I'm lying about this?

On May 15 2015 01:45 LightningStrike wrote:
WTF JAT why you shot rsoultin Also Nukes don't always hit as far I know.

On May 15 2015 01:53 marvellosity wrote:
bats, are you in the right game, sweetie?

On May 15 2015 01:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Alright.

One hour ago, I asked Kelsier to explain his scumread on me. He's been here and he's said he had one twice, but he hasn't answered or even acknowledged the fact that I asked him for his reasoning.

He doesn't have any.

##vote kelsiersc

On May 15 2015 01:56 batsnacks wrote:


WAS IT AN ITEM or no? Pls just answer.

On May 15 2015 02:01 batsnacks wrote:
Holy shit this is like pulling teeth... Did you start the game with the item or

Are you a vt who received an item?

On May 15 2015 02:02 marvellosity wrote:

Deeply ironic x

On May 15 2015 02:21 batsnacks wrote:
Jat you're lying about something. I don't think you're the emperor. I think you're a vt that received an item n1. Possibly an emperors sword but the none of the flavor text mentioned a sword.

What was the thing I said d1 that made you not want to lynch me I was in your no lynch list?

On May 11 2015 23:40 batsnacks wrote:
I wish I had some nukes. My abilities are pleb tier.

On May 15 2015 02:51 yamato77 wrote:
If anyone has objections to lynching Onegu, speak now.

On May 15 2015 02:25 batsnacks wrote:


So are you really the emperor and did you really start the game with a sword or were you just being silly?

On May 15 2015 03:02 GlowingBear wrote:
VE, you decided to shoot information-ful Xatalos instead of information-less Onegu.

Your shot makes no sense.

On May 15 2015 03:11 batsnacks wrote:


Didn't you object to an onegu lynch like 10 minutes ago?

On May 15 2015 03:14 yamato77 wrote:
Stop fucking listening to JAT.

He's dead scum, literally useless to the thread.

HTS, comment on the fucking Onegu lynch I'm leading or you're next.

On May 15 2015 03:22 yamato77 wrote:

Post a single reads post and then stop playing. If you feel the need, update it before you die.

Otherwise, you're just fucking mafia shitting up the thread.

On May 15 2015 03:57 Half the Sky wrote:
17/60



Bats, can you explain to me:

1 How your checks work (each cycle or part of the cycle)
2 Why you checked the person you did and when you checked each person

On May 15 2015 04:58 yamato77 wrote:
also, JAT is blatantly NOT a fucking VT and is also clearly mafia, so your way of clearing people is also shit

GJ bluehunting though, I'm impressed.

On May 15 2015 05:16 marvellosity wrote:
I think if there's anything to take from Palmar's filter, it's that he spewed LS as town

On May 15 2015 05:24 marvellosity wrote:
haven't you run out of posts yet?

On May 15 2015 05:42 LightningStrike wrote:

Honestly I felt like GlowingBear is the type of guy that can drive a lynch while Sandroba doesn't seem that type of person which is why I went on GlowingBear. I had only seem a glimpse of his town but in Student VII but that was it(I was coaching students that game and was more focused on my students there).

On May 15 2015 15:29 GlowingBear wrote:
In other words: Mafia is comfortable with this lynch.

Obi, help me thinking please.

Do you think it's possible that marvs QT with VE is true but the QTs with TD are fake, meaning yamato/marv/TD are part of a scum team?

On May 15 2015 23:39 marvellosity wrote:
Down to something like Obi/Oats/Onegu atm. Obi's filter looks ok honestly, he just doesn't have as much going for him as most other ppl. Oats could easily be mafia (I do still like point 1 from the GB case I originally commented on) but at least he's direct and combative. This leaves Onegu who is kinda just existing in the thread in a weird way and making kinda weird reads that don't make that much sense, but not weird enough to look town.

Also his comment that if he is mafia he wouldn't be wagoned on d1/d2 feels pretty disingenuous to me - this game has been pretty fast-paced (i.e. there have been a lot of things happening), and literally the only reason he wasn't killed on d2 in XXX was because he claimed VT at the start in a meta-breaking move - his play that game was actually terrible.

On May 16 2015 00:20 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


Nice.

On May 16 2015 00:59 GlowingBear wrote:
I don't care for the mason claims anymore. We (especially I) wasted too much time on things that are WIFOM.

Here is what bugs me
I think oats is Mafia
I think marv is Mafia

My oats case is okay for me
Marv keeps scumreading oats but does not consider him for the lynch. He raised suspicions on him TWICE on day1 and never revisited him. When I pointed out weird things on oats, marv ignored it. This kind of dismissal is too weird.

On May 16 2015 02:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Kelsier is annoying me.

On May 16 2015 02:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
Also keep in mind glowingbear, you are voting with someone who shot rsoultin outta the complete fucking blue and never justified it.

On May 16 2015 02:55 Oatsmaster wrote:

No, then you are voting with me, not the other way around.

Dude you are dying anywhere, why do you care.

On May 16 2015 03:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


Tbh I'd be willing to consider it if you flip town, but there's no real reason to think anything of it until later because, if he is mafia, then it's going to be more obvious with time.

On May 16 2015 07:21 Half the Sky wrote:
My working theory is that Xatalos was scum, JAT (given his play, he's not working quite as hard now over 2 cycles) and obv Palmar are three. I am fine with Onegu being the lynch tbh.

On May 16 2015 08:46 batsnacks wrote:
jat if you're being real I don't understand how you can be town and not vt. You knew pleb=vt at the very start of the game yet you deny being gifted an item, and you claim you're an emperor with a sword. If that's the case how did you know pleb=vt?

On May 17 2015 01:58 Damdred wrote:
Yay town.

Glad i shot,bm. I wouldn't of gotten td I think. Marv kept,falling for me.

Town vigs/nuker was awesome

On May 17 2015 02:09 GlowingBear wrote:


And I shitted the thread, which made the game more difficult to town.

But anyway.

On May 17 2015 02:20 GlowingBear wrote:
Also I'm reading Damdred on the obs qt

Congratulations to both him and sandroba for their very good gameplay, even if I couldn't realise it earlier.

On May 17 2015 02:43 KelsierSC wrote:
probably give sandro or damdred the MVP award.

I think town just had a few players dead on with their reads and they happened to have kp. damdred shooting BM, VE shooting xat and stutter shooting palmar.

uphill battle for mafia I guess after that.

On May 17 2015 02:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
Good job GB.

I think if BM didnt nuke for no reason and palmar didnt get absolutely hero shotted n1, scum wouldve been in a way better position.

On May 17 2015 03:00 sandroba wrote:

Hmm. I think that if palmar was going to play the way he did maybe you guys could have given assassin to maybe you/xat and have the assassin town side a bit more? Seems unnecessarily risky to give assassin to the player who is gonna go full disruption / anti-town in thread.

On May 17 2015 03:06 KelsierSC wrote:
I started ok , think I had Xat,TD and JAT as all scum. Though I never really pushed JAT.

I sort of lost the plot d2 but there weren't many mafia left to choose from.

On May 14 2015 05:45 VisceraEyes wrote:

I don't care what you think of me JAT, you're literally always a pleasure to play with.