Assassination Mafia!

On May 12 2015 02:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


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You are making me quite sad, V.

On May 11 2015 22:17 marvellosity wrote:

btw this post makes it much more likely BM is mafia after my original accusation, because he's still trying to justify it.

On May 12 2015 01:25 marvellosity wrote:
Vivax really is an excellent lynch. Xata pretty ok lynch too though.

On May 12 2015 03:28 Damdred wrote:
MOTHER FUCKER, Marv is one of the towniest towns that ever did town. Don't take my friend away :'(

If anyone has a anti-nuke please use it

Or I might have to rage on BM when I think hes possibly town here.

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On May 12 2015 03:36 Damdred wrote:


Thank you for the commentary that means absolutely nothing if you don't tell us why anything is scummy.

On May 12 2015 03:39 Damdred wrote:


If you think i'm scum you should just say it btw.

As such marv has been really town this phase, not much else to it and other reasons I don't want to talk about.

On May 12 2015 04:00 Xatalos wrote:
Could lynch Vivax so far. He hasn't done much and what he's done is sheeping thread sentiment on myself and randomly scumreading Damdred for a pretty far-fetched reason. Both targets for suspicion-spreading are probably town. I think his scum meta was being useless which fits here well enough.

Not really sold on TD. I think his reads seem decent enough and he's put in some effort. How exactly is he "blending in" or something?

On May 12 2015 04:16 Xatalos wrote:


Every time a scum mislynches town, they followed thread sentiment.

On May 12 2015 05:12 Half the Sky wrote:
16/60

I'm back.

Closing in on the first half of D1 we're at a point where Trfel (normally the town leader) should be providing some thing in the ways of his analysis, at least for what I'm familiar with. He's been active with advocating BM's lynch so you'd think...

Trfel, if BM were removed from the game, whom would you lynch today?

The same thing I'd say applies to JAT. Your last response to me was tentative, and I know you (and many others) want to policy BM, and want Vivax gone, but even with this amount of content surely you can name at least one additional scumread by now.

My stance on Vivax remains the same. Though he's posted, now that he's being called out, it's posts like these that give me the impression he's posting for the sake of posting.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=710&topic_id=484076

It's pretty obvious going into Ras's filter why she does this, it also shows no part on his end searching for information that would determine her alignment.

Looking at TD's subsequent posts, I'm pretty sure he's town, but I'll look into his filter to make sure I'm not missing anything.

On May 12 2015 05:41 Half the Sky wrote:
19/60

EBWOP - at Vivax, also saying "fuck you bh" after he anti-nuked BM isn't helping your credibility atm.

JAT - what is your current DNL list?

Vivax - If you're not scum, then tell me who is.

Also regarding the recent BH nuke, I think it's a towny action, though I'm with Rasputin - explain what you thought of Trfel as you were saving him, or if you really saved him off a tone read?

Or even better, looking at him now, do you regret saving him?

On May 13 2015 00:16 Half the Sky wrote:
44/60

Never mind you ninjaed me Damdred.



The problem here is - whilst I am also convinced Xatalos is mafia - there are a load more people willing to vote Xatalos/Vivax. You'd have gotten a scum down for sure with Xatalos/Vivax and gotten more information about the subsequent vote.

On May 13 2015 06:07 yamato77 wrote:
viv y u so trash

On May 13 2015 06:09 yamato77 wrote:

is this your appeal where you try to prey on my willingness to believe that you're actually this stupid?

On May 13 2015 06:12 justanothertownie wrote:

Well, gj playing against your wincon then if this is true. Fortunately it probably isn't.

On May 12 2015 03:42 Xatalos wrote:


Let's see.......

Not sure about rsoultin. I think someone said it well when they said "reading her posts gives me brain cancer". She seemed somewhat similar to the other game (Ippo) though so maybe town?

sandroba I think is probably town. He was just abysmal in the other game (Ippo) as scum and he seems to have put in plenty of effort here. The difference is so big that I'd even go as far as call him strongly town for now.

Trfel gave me some of the same uncomfortable feeling as LS (fluffy posts and questions etc.), but less severely. Might be worth looking into but I think LS would be a better lynch atm.

You feel somewhat towny so far being pretty "sharp" and focused (I mean for example focusing on me like that and not in a way to push a mislynch, felt more like actually interested in my alignment). Town for now I guess.

KSC has been pushing stuff pretty aggressively so maybe a town lean?

If I didn't mention someone it's probably null or nothing special just happened to come to mind.

Left Vivax and TD off specifically because I'll need to look into their filters next.

On May 12 2015 22:16 justanothertownie wrote:

This list seems ok. Vivax has vanished again - would absolutely lynch.

I think RoL would be a better vig target. No way to discern his alignment based on what he posted.

We are not lynching BH. What reason is there for you to not lynch xatalos? I won't even start to comment on that pardon.

We are also not lynching bats. Stutters I could see maybe although also better vig target. VE I would be hesitant about.

On May 13 2015 06:32 Half the Sky wrote:
51/60



You have eight votes on you. Why don't you comment about the rest of the people on your wagon? If you read my filter you'd actually see what discernments I made. How about the others?

It's glaringly obvious you're not reading the thread based on the post on Rasputin, or myself, and it's glaringly obvious marv and I aren't the only ones scumreading you.

On May 13 2015 06:40 LightningStrike wrote:
I can be convinced to switch to Xata if you can tell me he's mafia and you're not.

On May 13 2015 06:41 justanothertownie wrote:

And how did you determine that I am not scumreading the other 2? The answer is you didn't. You could have asked me for example. But instead you are trying to throw shit around for the dumbest reasons.
Yeah, I agreed with the list because I agreed with all targets. That does not change the fact that we have only one lynch and that you are by far the best one. This is about as good as your "case" against HTS. You just ignore the overall play of your scumreads and instead search for something irrelevant to nitpick.
Why do we need to interact with you to figure out your alignment when your biggest scumtell is that you aren't doing anything on your own? We don't.


I think I am pretty much out of posts btw.

What is with the first page being all people saying they are town? Is that like a thing now?

On May 12 2015 21:34 sandroba wrote:
I would like to lynch between RoL, VE, stutters and bats today if BM is not an option. Every other player did posted something townie to lesser or greater degrees in my eyes at some point. These 4 I can't find anything townie about them.

On May 13 2015 06:57 sandroba wrote:
Fuck it, I think my first intuition was right. I'm not voting vivax, I think he is town. A switch to BH would be the best I think, I'm not particularly sold on xatalos being mafia either.

On May 13 2015 07:31 Blazinghand wrote:


eh, now I kinda believe it, this seems like GB actually thinks I'm town rather than just trying to fake it for cred

On May 13 2015 08:08 TalkingDead wrote:

This is a good point. Leading up to the lynch, thread sentiment is steered roughly equally between Xatalos and Vivax. When Marv starts his push towards BH, votes still split roughly equally between Vivax and Xatalos. Despite Marv and Sandroba giving a less weight and push towards either Vivax or Xatalos and thinking they both may be a bit more likely to be town. Votes from the Vivax wagons disappear disproportionately faster. This can in part be attributed to Vivax being around and posting, but there were numerous people other than just Marv/Sandroba saying essentially that Vivax is posting better. Yet when you compare this situation to an exceptionally similar situation in Imperial, where Vivax went off the fucking deep end and was making series of huge posts repetitively. The wagon just disappeared in a strange way without any realisitic recognition of his posting. That's interesting.

On May 13 2015 08:26 TalkingDead wrote:

There's not time for that and it doesn't matter this late in the day. It is in no way about trying to find "the scum that unvoted their partners." It doesn't make you scum and it doesn't make Xatalos town. It's the asymmetrical shift that's interesting, both in the sense that people are more willing to move off you and that people are less willing to move off of him. What is interesting about your response is that you've ignored my point about Imperial entirely to pick at the corners of the point I'm trying to make.

On May 13 2015 08:53 rsoultin wrote:
73/76

what i find remarkable is the batshit crazy people screaming about how quickly the lynch dissolved and reformed on blazinghand, seem perfectly fine with this sudden mass-switch to vivax

lol

at hts' bidding no less. i have a townread on her that i may have to revisit, but since when has she been the town rally player?