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On May 09 2015 00:25 Damdred wrote: I'm the most over rated player on the forums... Besides bh believe it I think I more overrated O_o | ||
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On May 10 2015 09:31 KelsierSC wrote: 1st person to use post limit excuse 1 mafia down I not mafia it just it going to be hard for me to post with only 10 posts allowed this phase. | ||
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On May 10 2015 09:43 rsoultin wrote: 2! ay! but don't you want to be the same alignment as me? since you think i can suss you out 100% of the time? lol mmmm happy dance doesn't seem too happy town here. stop. again. stop. then happy dance? i dunnae hts we may be on opposing sides again :/ lol yeah? oh damn, you caught me xP shoulda read my pm! (the role changes how towny i am, does it? xP such odd ideas you have, ksc) hmmm try hard right from the start, ja? pero i don't know why you'd want to waste a post on saying my role pm changes my level of towniness, any more than why ls would waste a post saying hi before commenting on a geript student V style posting strategy one post and i'm already your favorite person, net hubby? lol >< that's awfully quick, no? what makes you think so? (besides me saying so ) Yamato-kun! how happy are you today? lol...finally ending that scum streak maybe? On May 10 2015 09:50 batsnacks wrote: 17. Sui / Following above TUI THE JOYOUS, LAKE below CHêN THE AROUSING, THUNDER The trigram Tui, the Joyous, whose attribute is gladness, is above; Chên, the Arousing, which has the attribute of movement, is below. Joy in movement induces following. The Joyous is the youngest daughter, while the Arousing is the eldest son. An older man defers to a young girl and shows her consideration. By this he moves her to follow him. THE JUDGMENT FOLLOWING has supreme success. Perseverance furthers. No blame. In order to obtain a following one must first know how to adapt oneself. If a man would rule he must first learn to serve, for only in this way does he secure from those below him the joyous assent that is necessary if they are to follow him. If he has to obtain a following by force or cunning, by conspiracy or by creating faction, he invariably arouses resistance, which obstructs willing adherence. But even joyous movement can lead to evil consequences, hence the added stipulation, "Perseverance furthers" --that is, consistency in doing right-- together with "No blame." Just as we should not ask others to follow us unless this condition is fulfilled, so it is only under this condition that we can in turn follow others without coming to harm. The thought of obtaining a following through adaptation to the demands of the time is a great and significant idea; this is why the appended judgment is so favorable. THE IMAGE Thunder in the middle of the lake: The image of FOLLOWING. Thus the superior man at nightfall Goes indoors for rest and recuperation. In the autumn electricity withdraws into the earth again and rests. Here it is the thunder in the middle of the lake that serves as the image--thunder in its winter rest, not thunder in motion. The idea of following in the sense of adaptation to the demands of the time grows out of this image. Thunder in the middle of the lake indicates times of darkness and rest. Similarly, a superior man, after being tirelessly active all day, allows himself rest and recuperation at night. No situation can become favorable until one is able to adapt to it and does not wear himself out with mistaken resistance. THE LINES °Nine at the beginning means: The standard is changing. Perseverance brings good fortune. To go out of the door in company Produces deeds. There are exceptional conditions in which the relation between leader and followers changes. It is implicit in the idea of following and adaptation that if one wants to lead others, one must remain accessible and responsive to the views of those under him. At the same time, however, he must have firm principles, so that he does not vacillate where there is only a question of current opinion. Once we are ready to listen to the opinions of others, we must not associate exclusively with people who share our views or with members of our own party; instead, we must go out and mingle freely with all sorts of people, friends or foes. That is the only way to achieve something. °Nine in the fifth place means: Sincere in the good. Good fortune. Every man must have something he follows--something that serves him as a lodestar. He who follows with conviction the beautiful and the good may feel himself strengthened by this saying. °Six at the top means: He meets with firm allegiance And is still further bound. The king introduces him To the Western Mountain. This refers to a man, an exalted sage, who has already put the turmoil of the world behind him. But a follower appears who understands him and is not to be put off. So the sage comes back into the world and aids the other in his work. Thus there develops an eternal tie between the two. The allegory is chosen from the annals of the Chou dynasty. The rulers of this dynasty honored men who had served them well by awarding them a place in the royal family's temple of ancestors on the Western Mountain. In this way they were regarded as sharing in the destiny of the ruling family. On May 10 2015 10:43 Trfel wrote: Which shows that you did not read the post very carefully at all. You seem willing to be present in the thread and to talk with people, but you aren't reading carefully. Suspicious. + Show Spoiler [Explanation] + On May 10 2015 09:43 rsoultin wrote: First, there aren't actually that many words. It's just a post with a lot of quotes and white space.2! ay! but don't you want to be the same alignment as me? since you think i can suss you out 100% of the time? lol mmmm happy dance doesn't seem too happy town here. stop. again. stop. then happy dance? i dunnae hts we may be on opposing sides again :/ lol yeah? oh damn, you caught me xP shoulda read my pm! (the role changes how towny i am, does it? xP such odd ideas you have, ksc) hmmm try hard right from the start, ja? pero i don't know why you'd want to waste a post on saying my role pm changes my level of towniness, any more than why ls would waste a post saying hi before commenting on a geript student V style posting strategy one post and i'm already your favorite person, net hubby? lol >< that's awfully quick, no? what makes you think so? (besides me saying so ) Yamato-kun! how happy are you today? lol...finally ending that scum streak maybe? I colored rsoultin's post as indicated by her statements. She's pushing at least the same level of suspicion on multiple people as you are with you own accusation (that rsoultin's made a wordy post with no scumreads). On May 10 2015 11:20 Damdred wrote: This is almost as bad a read as me saying GB is town just saying. However at this point I have a couple of preliminary town reads I believe just by tone and posting style and somewhat on content. I'm a bit confused damdred Rs is pressing good ideas and important issues , but the only "good" idea she has really pushed is that HTS has a forced tone and is mafia. On May 10 2015 11:29 Trfel wrote: What do you currently think about rsoultin, then? Oh hush, you... Anyway, I didn't repost the player list... I originally added the filters, the official player list is a copy-paste of the player list that I posted I'm obviously biased about myself... but Half the Sky only made one post, with nothing of actual value.Do tell me how you managed to arrive at your conclusion from this post? On May 10 2015 12:36 yamato77 wrote: Tina Damdy Kels Truffle Bill LS HTS Oats batsnacks Onegu glowingbear On May 10 2015 15:18 Blazinghand wrote: Can't post, computer and internet are broken sry kkthxbai On May 10 2015 15:24 TalkingDead wrote: GlowingBear's reads are definitely odd. For example, how he says the read is magic then tries to give a short crappy explanation for why he's scum. I get the sense that Damdred-GlowingBear is either town-town or mafia-mafia. It's odd because Damdred looks reasonably towny and GlowingBear looks like mafia. Damdred despite apparently being a strong player uses pretty weak arguments against him. It just feels like both want to throw shit at each other and neither are interested in actually starting a train on them. Onegu looks quite odd. Yamato looks really towny though; he can do this as mafia but I'd peg him as town. So far, I'd lynch BillMurray. I've seen him as town and as town he rarely does absolutely nothing and be useless. I would prefer him as a lynch. BlazingHand should be policy lynches/shot ASAP. Rsoultin is being townread for very bad reasons; she's might be town, but nothing he's posted is something she couldn't have or wouldn't have posted as mafia. Otherwise, meh. On May 10 2015 15:50 rsoultin wrote: 4! insomnia says hi! i lack the lust of the lustre of the stuff or something lol xP TalkingDead knows me >> this no me parece very fair :/ i like the TalkingDead entrance though hrm oneg looks like oneg lol >< what more is there to say about an oneg? but he's ignoring me ;o; as is oats so unloved. digame, is it like an oats to post just to complain and disappear? warming up to ksc some yes, truffle prob town cause he's truffle <3 hi truffle ^^ bats eh...gets townread for sarcasm stays sarcastic and obstructive = null otras cosas.... meh damdy, why you lying? this after my first post? that's not just cause i posted first, and they're right...very null entrance post lol ADEMAS there is the bolding of yamato while calling it a bad read (scumread) from GB, but not the hts, yet later you say you like hts' tone lol >< which is fine if you were looking for someone to notice, but when people only say that you like my pushes while not liking my read, you praise them for thinking critically? eh :/ bill murray and blazhinghand maybe looking for reactions? bill murray's entrance uber scummy and too willing to give away the postehs so don't have to post, and blazinghand quite brazenly lying in an easily discoverable way xP gb dunnae, he's weird anyway. have a way to read him that isn't viable until later anyway if i've forgotten you you're boring and you should go slit your wrists <3 xoxoxo (disclaimer: an rsoul will not be held liable for inability to understand sarcasm :0) | ||
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On May 10 2015 23:09 Stutters695 wrote: Cool, this started. I don't think I've ever done a n0, anything special about it? On May 10 2015 23:57 rsoultin wrote: 6! Hi -radiates ksc's head some more so he has an excuse for poor reading comprehension- xP only town reads/town leans lol >< i refuse to bow to the man! \o/ and make pretty colored list posts. read, you boob, or stop talking about me bueno ls is right; hts can have wobbly entrances as scum which is why i go for the toneread early on her (and no, i do not intend to ignore everything else from her) you are kinda right, ls, in that my reason for the truffle read is weak. it's also not actually in the thread he's just one of the players i'm best at reading early lol and i'm not interested in going into something that only means something to me hmmm @ marv jat also gets a hmmm...the early commitment is nice but lol i doubt my hts toneread, awesome amazing-sauce as it is, is the only thing in this thread worth commenting on xP at least palmar doesn't even pretend to be contributing lolol stutters you make me ;o; like xata. will share why later. or someone else can tell me why xD -makes puppy eyes at the thread- + Show Spoiler + On May 11 2015 00:17 Damdred wrote: Good morning, slept through my alarm sadly. LS post I dislike actually, it is a lot of words but kinda nit picks certain posts and ignores others. It also lacks any form of conclussions just says a lot and nothing without much commitment. Kel, why are you leaning town on gb? Rasputin being a bit of a pita bit that's normal. Its kinda weird feeling having so many people town reading me this early, its bizzaro land but I like it. (12) | ||
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On May 11 2015 02:13 Xatalos wrote: How is her entrance scum-specific exactly? Does she open some way as scum, not as town? Wait I retracting I had misread it she done this type of entrance as town just been a while since she did (Titanic) sorry about that HTS just bleed town for me please? <3 | ||
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On May 11 2015 03:18 Xatalos wrote: Right -.- And what's your read now if we ignore that? Not 3P? Town she had some good large posts on analyzing stuff about GlowingBear and is thinking critically. | ||
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On May 11 2015 03:49 Damdred wrote: The thing is, my first read halfway joking first post and all of that jazz. However LS why are you paying special attention to my intro but discounting all of my other content and inferring I'm Scum from it. And you instantly retract your hts read because of later content but not using the same rules with me. That's not the town LS I know. (15) It just your intro seems to much tmi it's like shooting fish a barrel on your read on rsoultin but the rest of your content is fine but did Bill really give his last of his posts to you? | ||
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On May 11 2015 03:47 KelsierSC wrote: ah ok I get what you're saying now. you're saying he should very much be calling you scum or town because of the previous game in which you were scum. I thought you were saying at the beginning of that game he called you scum which isn't how I read it. LS has been pretty all over the place so far , kind of looks like floundering scum, pressured into a read and shows a bit of push back calling HTS scum, then instantly retracting and now calling her town. so LS do you agree with the analysis that HTS did ? HTS I also don't like TD , but i don't agree with your reasons. point 1 is kind of meh, if you don't like someone you can give your read and a reason without asking them a question. Point 2 is ok , I sort of think at first glance the argument damdred puts forward looks strong and it certainly comes from a townie place, but is actually weak in retrospect, I definitely think not explaining why the argument is weak is a negative for him. for point 3 I don't know if he blows it out of proportion, he hasn't really pushed any agenda as far as i'm aware. As i said, he did some stuff I didn't like but nothing like concrete I guess. Your GB points are interesting but I don't think they make him mafia. You don't have to respond every time someone calls you scum or if someone else doesn't share a scumread with you. I think GB is town for some reason But I like the effort your putting in and you have pushed some interesting stuff so I like you so far. A tiny expect her stuff on me obviously. On May 11 2015 05:13 Onegu wrote: @ TalkingDead Traitor is totes in this game... Read OP, but I cant be it because I didnt read hapas post... @rsoul Acknowledging you, But this is like my 6th straight town game @GB I always want to roll scum, well known fact. @yamato did you roll scum again? @bats you really expected me to understand that lol... And then you expected ONEGU to comprehend it lol nice. @LS ignoring me @everyone else <3 I AM ONEGU!!! You already cashed in the VT type of claim so early as scum you need to bleed town. On May 11 2015 05:23 KelsierSC wrote: how rude. I suppose the yamato thing is ok...I mean you had him as top town after two of his posts i think which were his all caps dreamflower and his colour code. Maybe you can argue a tone read now but at that point to call him top town i didn't like. So at this stage if marv wanted to lynch a townread of yours , you would sheep that? if I may be so bold to colour some of your reads would it be something like this HTS GB Damdred VE Lightning Strike because I have those exact reads yet apparently they are awful so i'm a bit confused. Ya TalkingDead seems to contrdict himself there but his read (and yours) is wrong because I am Town not scum. On May 11 2015 05:33 sandroba wrote: Another post that really bothered me was this one. I don't know how he got this idea that it must be town-town or mafia-mafia interaction but he is seems to be adamant about pushing it, but not about explaning why it must be. "It's odd because Damdred looks reasonably towny and GlowingBear looks like mafia." if this was his first impression why come to the conclusion they share the same alignment? Again it looks like and idea he is trying to push and not something that has logic or reasoning behind which feels like mafia agenda. This is further enforced by his next post which he saves himself the trouble of talking about damdred at all but now pushes the idea that it must be a town-town interaction with GB. Ya it seems odd but I had seem similar stuff between them when they(GB and Damdred) were town-town maybe he picked up on something on their meta towards each other. Do you think TalkingDead is scum? On May 11 2015 05:43 sandroba wrote: @talkinghead Quote: "GlowingBear In looking through things there are a few things I find interesting. On May 10 2015 12:36 GlowingBear wrote: 4)Kelsen Null opening. Commenting on something already dropped in the thread it's an easy out for Mafia but the joke made me have a townish gut read on him. A negative read + a positive read = null FUCK YEAH MATHMATEKS. Then he calls LS out for legit reasons. Townread. I already know he is mafia because SICK READS (TM) Saying Rasputin is town for her opening is odd, there is nothing alignment indicative in there, so bad opening. 6)LS Posts two posts to say he will resort on consolidated posts. Lol I'm tempted to call him Mafia for that but I can see it coming from both alignments... Argh. I found this post quite odd. Initially so because he reaffirms his Damdred scumread but then bothers to comment on something that's supposed to be viewed as scummy but is just null. The townread on KelsierSC I find interesting because Kelsier also ended up with an odd townread on GlowingBear. But also because GlowingBear doesn't mention Trfel at all while Trfel had an interesting point on how LightningStrike was posting. But in looking further at it, he doesn't seem to place heavy weight on LS being mafia based on talking about how he's going to make consolidated posts. He gives Kelsier a townread for mostly calling out LS for "legit reasons" which GlowingBear doesn't want to follow up on. It's just exceptionally odd. GlowingBear's reads in general are just exceptionally odd on top of that. Initially, I felt like GlowingBear was trying to bus Damdred and Damdred was (at least initially) trying to back him out of that read in a semi-natural way and get GlowingBear to chill out. But in looking more specifically at the connections, the KelsierSC-GlowingBear connection is a bit more odd. I think there are better lynches on day 1 because often enough the person with really weird fucked up reads is just a bad towny which wouldn't be out of place for GlowingBear. But I also wouldn't balk at his lynch since something's definitely wrong here. 5)Damdred This post is too long already and I need to get some food. I'll comment on him later. tl;dr I think GlowingBear vs Damdred is more likely to be town-town right now. " If I'm reading correctly you say there is plenty of reasons to suspect GB, wouldn't be against his lynch because there is definitely something wrong, but somehow you STILL think damdred and GB are the same alignment for some obscure reason that you never revealed AND now you think it's likely the are town-town??? WTF is this shit. I can't buy into a single thing you are saying, this feels like a huge pile of horse shit. What think of GlowingBears alignment after breaking this post by him down Sandroba? | ||
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On May 11 2015 07:07 Damdred wrote: Last post before phase one I'm afraid I thank you bm for the extra posts to defend and press the issue on LS. A few thoughts I don't like talkings big list post, but so does most of the thread. I think the skip over me to tackle GB is interesting and makes no sense. GB has promised content and not delivered up to this point. That is alignment indicative for him, he's ignored his top Scum reads and decided to waste posts. I think hrs a food lynch. LS is still scummy for reasons outlined earlier, and I think the sudden turn on hts abd trying to half do his usual metaing of people AFTER hrs brings it up shoes he's just trying to get off people's radar at this point also. I still have a lot of nulls but sandros posts are ok? Even if they are about me I hate they focus on one or two posts I've talked about a bit already and ignore other content. And a lot of it has already been said to an extent.... so maybe it's not as ok as I thought. Any questions I'll answer at start of day I honestly was trying to reserve my posts but EoN here let's see what happens. | ||
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On May 11 2015 09:37 rsoultin wrote: you can't read and bh is a moron ^^ yay morons! \o/ can we lynch marv now? Why you think Marv is scum? | ||
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On May 11 2015 09:39 rsoultin wrote: because the king of town is neither very kingly nor very townie and perhaps gb thereafter, though i can't decide if it was an excuse for the so-called "frightened vets" or just sheer stupidity/lack of reading comprehension He only have 3 posts since the game started and Palmar had only 1 post saying Hi but it's the weekend I think it's easier to figure out Palmar's alignment and Marv once they start posting because they can read each other pretty damn well. | ||
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On May 11 2015 09:52 rsoultin wrote: palmar is palmar and will do as palmar does marv's silence is more alignment indicative, at least to me going to commit to anything this game, ls, or just wait for everyone else to tell you what to do, make your reads for you? hts, talk to me about who you want to lynch right now, mamacita <3 I committing to my townreads on KSC and HTS Marv inactivity can be alignment indicative but doesn't he normally got chess going on today but if he doesn't post stuff I know he can be do as town then he might be scum but we need him to post more before making conclusions. | ||
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@Marv: What are your current reads? @Palmar: Thoughts so far in the thread? | ||
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On May 11 2015 22:14 marvellosity wrote: You understand we're not even 24h through day 1 in a postcount restricted game, right? The post restriction is even worse than Carol >.< | ||
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On May 11 2015 23:46 Palmar wrote: You have a new quest now JAT. Find one person, outside of yourself, who took this post I wrote regarding BH seriously, as in something I actually wanted to do, and you will not be lynched. However if you happened to be the only person in the thread boring enough to not notice that I was clearly just saying random shit, that makes you mafia because you're like the least funny, witty, relaxed person on earth when you actually are mafia. ##vote justanothertownie + Show Spoiler + JAT's atrocious sex rating for being boring strikes again You really bringing XXX to here lol. Also BH could be scum but not only for that it's the fact he really haven't done much outside of saving Trfel. | ||
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On May 11 2015 23:53 Palmar wrote: Actually LS, you're like the perfect candidate for this shit. You're the lowest common sarcasm denominator. Did you think I actually wanted to lynch BH today after writing that post? At first yes but now that mention sarcasm now I see you don't lol I not really good at reading sarcasm on the internet | ||
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Geript is banned I think so therefore it's tehppofter. | ||
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On May 12 2015 01:22 justanothertownie wrote: LS, I really think you could do more important/interesting things than trying to figure this smurf out. Good point I just checked 2 of his game and already noticed that it's not Tehpoofter's posting style either so who knows we just have to roll a rng die to figure him out. What your thoughts on TD? | ||
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On May 12 2015 01:32 justanothertownie wrote: I did not really have a problem with any of his posts so far. The town-town mafia-mafia stuff I admit was a bit weird but I don't see why it was a mafia thing to say. I agree with the bolded part I still scratching my head about it tbh with you. If he's scum it wouldn't be for that stuff that is for sure. | ||
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On May 12 2015 02:05 yamato77 wrote: marv, I don't really want to lynch BM I do want to lynch JAT lynch JAT with me ##vote: justanothertownie Why is JAT scum? | ||
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Okay Xata is starting to pick up (He's wrong on my alignment and so is Damdred and JAT -_-) and looks okay but wouldn't lynch him Day 1 just yet. Also we don't seem to get the crazy calling everyone Mafia town Vivax here and he could be scum just for that. Anyone else agree with me about my Vivax read? | ||
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On May 12 2015 03:35 Damdred wrote: What is your vivax read? why would you want to lynch someone you think looks ok? My vivax read is scum. I would lynch someone that looks ok if there isn't any other choices to go for. | ||
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On May 12 2015 03:37 Damdred wrote: Most people have vivax as scum though. Why though? Someone always looks worse than others, do you think xata is town? Vivax as town loves to call everyone Mafia and he not exactly doing that this game. I have Xata as a slight townlean for now he seemed genuinely interested in some of the topics. | ||
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On May 12 2015 03:43 KelsierSC wrote: a lot of people had vivax scum for not posting though since he posted rs and obi have both called vivax as town no way BM is town , lynch with fire. i'm hating xatalos more and more with each post, everything is very safe and it's kind of boring reading him, going along with thread sentiment, he wants to lynch LS and the only other reads he has given, which he had to be asked for, have been leans either way, not impressed. i would lynch LS aswell but it just feels like an easy read for him to give. People naturally scumread me early on regardless of my alignment and I need to fix that >.< | ||
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@Vivax: Can I get your reads and thoughts so far? | ||
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On May 12 2015 04:17 Xatalos wrote: Could you give your current reads in a readable manner, preferably focusing on the stronger reads? I got HTS as town she seems to try to get discussion going and not afraid of interacting with others plus her opening was very similar to her opening in the latest Titanic game when she was town. I got KSC as he trying to interact with others trying to give his thoughts and stuff and haven't been blue hunting like the time I ran into him when he was scum (Carol). I got Sandroba as town he actually had some good analyses early on that was insightful and isn't afraid of giving people a piece of his own mind. I got rsoultin (tina) as town even though she was being a pain in the butt (which I don't blame her because of Damdred being a pain in the butt towards her) she actually got some decent content. Vivax is my strongest scumread he haven't really posted much and not being crazy like I normally would expect from him when he's town. | ||
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On May 12 2015 04:24 sandroba wrote: I really don't like jat, he feels very different from the town games I've played with him. He doesn't engage people giving him grief trying to figure out their alignment, but instead comes off as dismissive and angry. He also feels very detached from the game, posting statements instead of the usual inquiries and info digging that I normally see from town jat. I don't think the BM lynch is going to be all that productive regarding info, but he seems to be a problem that needs to be dealt with sooner or later because suspicion will always be around him, especially if marv ends up not flipping scum, so I wouldn't mind a dayvigi dealing with him today. Regarding Vivax I undertand the suspicion prior to him posting, but now that it started I don't see any reason in particular for the number of scum reads he is getting. Between BM and jat I think there is no reason to consider a vivax lynch today so far. Stutters on the other hand is someone that came in late that I find much more suspicous. He entered the thread and only commented on the most recent thing that happened, had no unique perspective or orignal read, just added pretty bland noncommittal statements. I would be much more inclined to lynch into those 3. Interesting point he does seem a bit more angry than the last I played with him town and seems to be the same level or anger and bullying in Void, Horns of Africa, and XXX when he was scum. Also I think we should wait on Stutters when he starts posting actively since I got a good cut and dry on his meta. | ||
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On May 12 2015 05:48 Trfel wrote: Half the Sky, I'm not a town leader. I've tried to be a town leader, and that doesn't work for me. Right now, I'm at this really weird place... If Bill Murray ever becomes not the leading wagon, I get nuked. So if I want to actually scumread someone else, I need to be sure enough about it that it is worth me dying and leaving a huge potential mislynch target alive (assuming Bill Murray is in fact town, which is by no means guaranteed). It's actually quite frustrating. I have an additional reason to be suspicious of Bill Murray, but it's best if I keep that to myself for now. Furthermore, Bill Murray's play last game (Student Mafia VIII) was quite reasonable and good, while Bill Murray has played erratically as town in the past, given his /in post:I would expect him to be willing to interact with people and play reasonably. And his play here is very far below the play he showed last game. The best reason to townread Bill Murray is that it would be really weird if scum had a role that could launch multiple nukes in one day. But if scum did have this role, I would see them giving it to Bill Murray, and I would see Bill Murray doing something rather like this. Other than Bill Murray? I'm working on it. I have several suspicions, but they are best kept to myself at this time. Why hide your suspicions I mean even if they are wrong we would like to know them. Also guys at 4:30 pm CST I going to the Texas Ranger vs Kansas City Royals baseball game tonight so don't expect anything till later tonight after 4:30 pm CST! | ||
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On May 12 2015 05:54 Xatalos wrote: Could you clarify how you read Vivax? I don't remember playing with him when he's town (probably have but forgot). I think I've played with him when he was scum two times and both times he spread some random suspicion and was overall quite lazy/useless, especially later on. I kind of liked your post after this one where you explained your read on jat. It felt like you were actually considering his alignment. Gotta go to sleep soon but I'll consider alternative lynches when I get back to reading. Vivax as town is usually calls everyone scum at one point or another and actually engage people with somewhat reasonable manner till later in the game. As scum he's much lazier and loves to bus. You had played with Town Vivax in Carol | ||
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On May 12 2015 06:09 Xatalos wrote: Could be, can't remember him from there. Probably because the game was so short (I think it was the game where I was busted D1 and the game ended in a draw because of host failure or something) Tbh he's kind of been calling people scum so far. Not sure if that metric is so accurate. No you conceded as scum because we lynched Unholyflare lol and Vivax was Night Killed I think. Ya he starting to call people mafia now so maybe it isn't alignment indicative as I thought but still he hasn't reallly done much other than arguing with others. | ||
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On May 12 2015 06:00 Vivax wrote: LS I'm sort of confident you're town and I'm a pleb, why do you think I'm mafia? Because all you been doing was arguing with others and doesn't seem like you got a whole lot of info other people's alignments. Thoughts and reads everyone please? | ||
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On May 12 2015 06:16 batsnacks wrote: This is me sorry smurf post. I swear I am never smurfing again once a certain game is over. I was going to say that you posted on your smurf lol. | ||
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@KSC: Yes I actually do have High Functioning Autism I did tell you that I think in our latest game together when you or someone joked around using Autism as a insult -_- @Bill Murray: Don't feel discouraged man I believe you are town and I want you to prove to everyone how you are town! | ||
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On May 12 2015 14:08 rsoultin wrote: okay -_- clearly i'm doing something wrong if everyone and their brother is scumreading me -_- that like never happens i could just beat you over the head gb with the idiocy of me being your pretty scum team's chosen buss but whatever. i'd rather hear where your scumread comes from, frankly -_- I don't think you're scum o.o | ||
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On May 12 2015 14:07 Trfel wrote: Actually.... RebirthOfLeGenD just ninja-voted (well, he explained it like 12 hours ago). Why is he present enough to vote in the voting thread, but not to read/post in this thread? I heard justanothertownie say that he can be extremely lazy as town, can someone confirm if this is true? Otherwise I could very easily lynch him. I will check Rebirthoflegend meta regarding how lazy he is town compared to scum in the morning. | ||
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On May 12 2015 22:44 Half the Sky wrote: 35/60 Read pages 51-53 of the thread, and specifically sandroba's responses to TD, myself, JAT, etc. We're not having a problem with his activity this game. It's his read progression. I sometimes have weird read progression myself so sometimes townies have that issue. Although I do agree about something about bats when he's scum: He's a lurker based on Aperture when he was scum. | ||
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On May 12 2015 22:46 justanothertownie wrote: Since when are you so abrasive towards LS? Wtf is wrong with you? He was abrasive the very first time I played with him Metal. | ||
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On May 12 2015 22:53 justanothertownie wrote: Maybe, but since then he was your biggest fan. This is really out of character. It is a little out of character I don't know if it's alignment indicative or not. | ||
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On May 13 2015 00:58 TalkingDead wrote: I'm going to take a nap. I'm going to place my vote on Vivax. Palmer told me he was a 1.5 of the sexy scale and I've heard that he's nailed at least 1 scum team solely based on that. He also told me that if he weren't straight, that he would totally let me get in his pants. I don't think I believe him about that. He's never even had sex so I don't think he even knows what he would like. He was refering to XXX which was a sex flavored game when he the lower rating poeple were mostly mafia except for 1 person (Prplhz). | ||
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On May 13 2015 01:02 Damdred wrote: You can't be serious ls just isn't reading the thread. Ugh dude we have Xata who people don't like, Oats, and Vivax all 3 of them are scumread by the majority and yet you choose to shoot BM because he would stagnate the thread? That just terrible reasoning...... | ||
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On May 13 2015 01:09 Half the Sky wrote: 46/60 GlowingBear - 1 Xatalos 2 Vivax I call Vivax out for doing jack all about 20h or so into the day. When Vivax DOES appear in thread, his posts show a scumlike behaviour. Above quote on Rasputin gets nowhere, plus if you look at Vivax's filter there is zero followup. The above quote I tried to illustrate to sandroba what I found wrong with Vivax. But that should make it a bit more clear. 1 The quality of his posting doesn't reflect credible scumhunting in any manner. 2 Trashing his town meta (his excuse for his current play) isn't credible after the fact. And at LightningStrike: FFS you aren't reading. RTFT please. Damdred answered this twice over in the last two pages. Now I'm out. Tbh I disagree on using it on a mislynch and would rather hit scum with it because honestly it's better hitting scum than town that is a mislynch. Tbh he shoulda used it on a scumread but it's his call. | ||
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On May 13 2015 01:55 Damdred wrote: Ls is more than likely scum now, if you look at his past games you see a ton of hesitation about his reads. Especially on kinda meh people like bm was. Here he is just extra sure that bm is a mislynch no hint of paranoia that he could of been scum, which he could of been. Its just to sure of someone's alignment that he should t be. He was to trigger happy to be scum and actually looked townie in my eyes and I had played with BM before once but it was a somewhat inactive game (Student VIII) and again I hated his early play stuff there too so he most likely town. | ||
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On May 13 2015 03:01 rsoultin wrote: 63/76 this is literally the last post i'm wasting on this discussion. literally. the last. no you did not specifically use the phrasing "weak". you implied it. you implied my read progression doesn't make sense and called me scum for it. that is pushing me. perhaps we define it differently, but you are pushing suspicion in my general direction, a suspicion i might add that is practically word-for-word the same as ksc's...one of the patterns damdred was talking about about you iirc nor did i call your read on him "trash". i didn't like that it was THE ONLY thing you were pulling from the thread. ls could be scum. statistically and based on my light read he's more likely town, and he is an ALL TOO EASY mislynch, so you focusing on him and ONLY him is not a good sign for you, xata of course i'm not your "preferred" lynch today. i'm never getting lynched today, and certainly not for this nonsense. congratulations, though ^^ i'm almost at the point where i feel comfortable voting you based purely on my own read, mr. parrot. i'll readdress when i'm not as irritated -_- (Cuddles) Don't let Xata be mean to you about your read on me. | ||
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On May 13 2015 06:40 Vivax wrote: I'm really good at reading him. Last time he was mafia I scumread him D1 and nobody lynched him. FML. But he conceded at endgame. I think it was Carol. Indeed it was in Carol. | ||
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On May 13 2015 06:44 Half the Sky wrote: 52/60 I need to stop posting, really need to conserve for EoD/night. But this is where I stand. Where I stand on my null/scumreads: The policy vote category Batsnacks, Stutters, ROL (all lurk as either alignment) Null Trfel (town to null based on the fact he's been out of thread too long. Could use more insight on reads other than Vivax/Onegu.) Onegu (Very torn on this one. I'm seeing both scum and town tells in him with tone. I don't consider activity in of itself indicative.) VE (I honestly have no idea how to read him. Nothing is screaming scum to me but would like to see how he's so sure on Stutters.) Under review but never the lynch tonight Palmar (Nothing seemed off at first glance but he has tricked me as scum. Will need to re-read.) KelsierSC (Can't follow logic easily, but I know from Void and even Titanic, this is possible for his town play. Will need to re-read more closely) Sandroba (not sure I'm understanding his reads, probably doesn't make him scum, but need to review D2) Scum lean LS (Called out on not reading the thread twice, most of his last meta diving has been null reads) Probable Scum Blazinghand (I said before I don't like how his role actions to speak for him, not seeing anything in the line of scumhunting, even in Titanic 7 he did that eventually. Unlike Damdred or GB in this respect.) Oatsmaster (Dodging questions, the reads on Sandroba were horrible) OWS (Main issue is the read on Vivax. Townreads him for a pretty bad reason and then "prepares" to scumread him again to try and fit in. Eventually votes him. Others have mentioned this too.) Lynch it with fire Xatalos (Loose/murky reads, positions on Rasputin are contrived at best. Case on page 58.) Vivax (My case is on page 58. Inactivity first 20h of the game, excuse of trashing town meta is not credible, pointed questions with no info followup, the reads on marv and myself are contrived) Voting Xatalos now, pref him or Vivax lynched. Will compromise with the town circle/reads with a vote on Blazinghand, Oats or OWS if it spares any other reads. You realized that sometimes I skimped out to much regardless of my alignment? Also RebirthofLegend is much easier to read later on by meta and so is stutters. | ||
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On May 13 2015 06:55 rsoultin wrote: 68/76 <3 was hoping to get a response back from marv but i'd be happy to lynch bh lol >< viva isn't acting like a scum about to be lynched imo Thoughts on Xata? | ||
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On May 13 2015 07:04 Damdred wrote: She won't lynch xata because I pushed him and she's upset with me I just checked her filter and she didn't really speak much on what alignment she think Xata is and would prefer her to explain her exact position on Xata right now(The post I saw of her thing about Xata was she might end up voting him but who knows). Anyways I going to vote Xata I think KSC's case on him and other people's thoughts on him are pretty solid and would allow Vivax to live for another day just hope he will step it up. ##Unvote ##Vote: Xatalos | ||
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On May 13 2015 11:13 Onegu wrote: ##Give GlowingBear 3 posts Im not going to lynch BH, and I am kinda ok with xata... I think the best lynch tomorrow is LS or Rsoul though... LS is still just not giving concrete reads which he does as town he is just commenting on the thread sentiment. I did give concrete reads on rsoultin, HTS, and KSC you misrepresenting me here........ | ||
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On May 13 2015 12:31 LightningStrike wrote: I did give concrete reads on rsoultin, HTS, and KSC you misrepresenting me here........ EBWOP: I also had a strong Town read on BM before he got shot. | ||
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On May 14 2015 03:08 Onegu wrote: Ok LS is lieing he doesnt have any strong scum reads at all this game. He scum read vivax for being different than what he remembers. Then after scum reading Vivax all game he wants to switch to xata because, well Im not really sure he never really gives a good reason to... A town LS actively looks for scum. He is not doing any of that this game. Second read his filter he is basicly only giving town reads. And commenting on what is popular in the thread. I mean he made 3 posts on who the smurf is... This isnt a LS town game. @rsoul. LOL at making a novel and then putting inside of it that people wont read it because it is a novel... <3. Still think you are scum with LS this game. You should have no reason to townread him at this point. I had a strong scumread on Vivax but then I reconsidered later because he started to look very townie and tried to switch Xata since I liked KSC's case on him and other people also thought he was scum and so I tried to change my vote to Xata but for some reason mods didn't see my vote switch at all....... I still think Xata is scum along with Oats, and BH. Again you keep misrepresenting me on my meta because I did try to look for scum as both alignments..................................................................................................................... I mean check out JOAT and Guardians when I was scum............................ | ||
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On May 14 2015 03:35 Onegu wrote: Ok no meta. You aren't looking for scum and making cases, you are only commenting on the thread direction. Therefore you are only trying to blend in. Therefore you are scum. Why look if I think I found scum? | ||
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On May 14 2015 03:58 Xatalos wrote: I think I'm about at the post limit so not gonna post much tonight. I guess I should focus more on bigger posts and reading with these restrictions instead of posting whatever I like usual. Thanks for not lynching me yesterday. It was too bad that I had to wake up so early this morning, but life is life. In the next days I should have plenty more time and also capability to stay awake for deadlines. I actually kind of liked BH's recent posts, especially the one where he talked about rsoultin's read changes. It matched well with my own thoughts... So I'm considering just waiting and seeing more from him for now. Right now I'd most want to lynch LS. His attitude is just completely non-town any way I look at it. I may have to reconsider Onegu for a moment after looking at this exchange between LS and Onegu: ... It felt like Onegu was reading my mind there for a moment. I'm also seriously considering that HtS might be scum. Just look at her overall posting style. It's way too clean and what's worse, "static". One example: I was her go-to lynch for a long time, even after I had started seriously posting for a while, but her read didn't take my many more recent posts into account at all. It didn't evolve. She just kept repeating her old case (2-3 times I think) and didn't interact with me. Ultimately, much later, her answer was something like "I don't see any change in you" when I had definitely started playing way more actively and focused (with some free time I had gained finally). At that point even Damdred and marv had somewhat changed their minds. And as for HtS... nothing? It feels like she just decided a read beforehand and sticked with it for the day. rsoultin: I don't think flavor makes someone town. I'm sure the scumteam would be provided with fakeclaims or the game could easily be broken. Read my latest scum games in Jack of all Trades and Guardians and look XXX and Student VII for a quick sample of my town games. XXX: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/479775-xxx-mini-mafia-a-night-of-debauchery-18?user=lightningstrike Student VIII: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/483087-newbie-student-mafia-viii?user=LightningStrike Jack of all Trades: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/476732-jack-of-all-trades-mafia?user=LightningStrike Guardains: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/480042-tl-mafia-lxx-guardians-of-the-galaxy?user=LightningStrike | ||
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On May 14 2015 04:20 TalkingDead wrote: A few important things. Rsoultin's large posts are really, really off. When I have more time to write up a whole thing I'll do so, but there's very little sense being made in them and she's flat out lying about a few things. More importantly, I want to address Blazinghand's recent scumclaim here. Blazinghand is an experienced player. This is the most absolutely passive way I've ever seen BH talk about someone as scum. Blazinghand as a player and as a person is exceptionally cocky. Not confident, cocky. He is not unknown for screaming that someone's scum. He will out-talk, speak over other players, bully players, wiggle and litigate arguments, etc. just to get his point across. Blazinghand as town in no fucking way is he ever passive. Occaisionally, he will not play as town or not play as scum. But he's not a player to beat around the bush. As town, he's not going to mince his words. As town, BH will flat out call people scum; scream it from the heavens repeating and readjusting his argument just to convince people to vote with him. THIS IS NOT TOWN BH!!!! Town BH doesn't loosely be willing to agree to talk about how BH thinks a person is scum. Second... Town!BH does not intentially try to out people during the night phase. Generally, outing blues in the night phase is pretty terrible play and BH has scolded people before for doing so. However, this type of play is one that's often seen on video mafia. There are a few potential options that BH is trying to do here: 1. BH is traitor and is trying to get mafia to consider an NK for blue snipe on Batsnacks 2. BH is mafia and is trying to setup a blue claim for his partner Batsnacks 3. BH is town and is trying to get mafia to kill lynchbait Batsnacks Here's the thing though, BH scolded GlowingBear here for not knowing about no N0 NKs. He knows that roles didn't go out until the end of N0. So BH is in part trying to establish a blue argument on a player based on the 13th post in the game. BH is clearly not trying or thinking critically here because that argument is the dumbfuckfest central. Then he goes on to point out the Batsnacks soft claim. As town, why would BH ever point this out during the night phase? Maybe it's Batsnacks trying to take a bullet. Maybe it's actually a soft. I don't know. But there's literally no point for BH to direct the soft to the thread's attention as town. The potential loss is almost always greater than the potential gain. BH is a player who is will to take risks as any alignment, but this one is that I don't think I've ever seen him take before as town while at least once arguing against such play. So it's pretty easy to eliminate option 3. I don't care if it's 1 or 2, either way he's not town for it. Marv made an exceptionally sexy post about BH that I want to highlight. When I was looking at BH before and after the lynch, there was at least one exceptionally interesting thing about him. BH deflects from pressure. I don't mean that he pushes it on to other people. Rather, he takes the weakest point of anyone's argument and straw mans the argument so that he looks better. Instead of ever engaging or responding to good arguments (like the one I made that yamato responds to or the extended case the Marv wrote), never once does he address them. In the early case, he engages GlowingBear's weaker argument, never responds to mine and allows thread sentiment to just shift into BillMurray in the silence. In the case of Marv's argument, he interacts with everyone else around Marv's argument. He gets into a shitflinging fest with yamato. He explains how he'll be at dinner for 23 straight hours. He never actually bothers to respond to the main points because it lends credence to the points themselves. While this avoidance is reasonable to good play to avoid being lynched, it is rather telling that BH has continued to play this way. Building upon a point Marv had made earlier, BH clearly isn't thinking or reading critically in any sense. He tried to point out Batsnacks for being blue based on a post that batty wrote after alignments were handed out but before roles were. I ask you, do you really think that Blazinghand is the type of person or player to not think while he's playing? Does he have a tendency as town to show a pattern of not critically thinking about the game in any realistic sense? Do you not want to lynch the ever living fuck out of him? Sexy combo of you and Marv I may now just want to lynch BH over Xata because of you two but I found your case on BH better than Marv's but you also added onto his cas on BH so it just the perfect combo regardless of Marv's alignment. Can I sheep you now Geript? | ||
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On May 14 2015 04:13 Onegu wrote: Im not using meta, you are scummy because you are doing scummy things and not making your own reads or trying to find scum... ........................................... Entertain me bro make a case if you think I scum. | ||
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On May 14 2015 04:30 rsoultin wrote: 82/84 -facedesks- I give up I'm just gonna go back to my regular play lol >< -dances on a table- bats is town! bh is dumb! (and when you see how dumb you are i will lolololol) gb is town! bh is dumb! bh is dumb or scum! talkingdead, of course my giant posts look different xP that's the point. i never post that way lol >< i am town! you all are dumb! and bh admits to wanting to lynch a tooooownie just because he doesn't like how she plaaaaaays -dances on the table some more- (legitimately, td, if i've got facts wrong you should bring it up...i did filter dive but a lot of that is from memory :/) I gave 5 posts and called you town though so I not dumb? | ||
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On May 14 2015 05:57 Damdred wrote: Sorry been afk had a hell of a day. Should cat h up and be productive shortly When you are caught up can I have your reads please? | ||
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On May 14 2015 06:00 yamato77 wrote: sandro rso ksc trfel LS geript/td marv? HtS? damdred? GB? JAT? Xatalos? Obi? VE RoL Stutters batsnacks Oats Onegu Palmar BH Can you explain your reads please? | ||
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On May 14 2015 06:49 sandroba wrote: So HTS and LS, when is it ok to start considering lynching stutters? When we figure out he's mafia. | ||
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On May 14 2015 08:41 Half the Sky wrote: 60/65 3 from Bats, 2 from Onegu I'm back, gonna cram as much stuff I can in the last half hour here.... Bats I wasn't clear on why you were voting Sandroba. I'm not clear on where you stand now. You'd probably be in all honesty a slight scumlean at this point. I wasn't even scumreading you (Sandroba was) the first time you asked this and you seemed worried I was going to push your lynch. This go, I just did a voting analysis even though I had stronger reads on other people for other reasons. I get a paranoia feeling from you, I don't recall you asking questions like this before. Kelsier I had some questions to TD - what do you think of TD's answers? It's a few posts after my post on Stutters. As an aside, I'm getting more irritated with LS's posting. He's not coherent but that's not my problem with him. He's not particularly being helpful either even with the use of meta. I know he throws meta links and he's been criticised for that before as town, but the one distinct thing I'm noticing as this thread grows is that LS will post mainly after he's called out. I've noticed that 2-3 times. From what I'm reading, he's sheeping his town reads, but I am having difficulty discerning from a scum who is sheeping a wrong read. Tone wise, I townread him in his scumgames, so I am ignoring that. The main scum tell for him is not posting as much. LS, do you have any stances on anyone new besides those you have mentioned? Stutters as town since he's the unCCed Vig but nothing else I prob should prob VE to figure him out better. Also where is your 20 questions? | ||
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On May 13 2015 09:55 LightningStrike wrote: Just got home and for some reason Vivax ended up getting lynched over Xata or BH............ Well it seems like shenanigans happened when I was gone and HTS hammered Vivax. Also to answer Yamato there was a better case by KSC and others on Xata over BH at least in my mind but next Day Phase I can go for either a Xata or a BH lynch. Also thanks for your response and hopefully you can talk more later if someone gives you more posts. I didn't expect Vivax to get lynched my vote was on someone who I thought a wagon would happen on (Xata). | ||
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On May 14 2015 22:52 VisceraEyes wrote: I still wanna follow my lynch list to a degree. Aside from some of my I-Don't-Knows being moved up to town, not much has changed for me based on both what's been said AND the general state of the game. Just wanted to see if any progressed for your reads since EoN that was all. | ||
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On May 14 2015 23:26 Xatalos wrote: LOL what... What's a Martyr even? And why did you claim now? I protect 1 person every night if they get targeted by KP I take the kp instead. I just tired of people thinking I am scum based on BH being town....... | ||
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On May 14 2015 23:30 Xatalos wrote: That's not why I've thought of you as scum at all though :/ That was mainly at GlowingBear. | ||
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On May 15 2015 02:23 Onegu wrote: Not lynching JaT. He had the guts to do what I couldn't. Should shoot LS next. Marv like really town. Even though he is still scum reading me. Doubt he is just like Im mason recuiter as scum and giving out his entire scum team as he isnt mason... Ugh dude did you not see my Martyr claim? I protect 1 person every night and if the person gets hit by KP I take the kp instead. | ||
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On May 15 2015 03:14 yamato77 wrote: Stop fucking listening to JAT. He's dead scum, literally useless to the thread. HTS, comment on the fucking Onegu lynch I'm leading or you're next. Why you think HTS is scum if she doesn't comment on your Onegu lynch? Can you also show me the case on Onegu being scum please? | ||
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On May 15 2015 03:21 yamato77 wrote: Do you think he's town? If not, just fucking sheep me and be quiet. I don't blindly sheep people though | ||
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On May 15 2015 05:16 marvellosity wrote: I think if there's anything to take from Palmar's filter, it's that he spewed LS as town He spewed me as town yes and he did it too in Titanic he always spew my alignment when he's scum. | ||
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On May 15 2015 05:36 Half the Sky wrote: 20/60 EBWOP - "Marv, scum Palmar has WIFOMed people of both alignments as being both alignments...." Sidenote for Yamato - I won't speak for LS, but I am not experience with either your or sandroba's town games. At all. Not everyone refuses to play as scum and I learnt the hard way just now with Vivax changing his meta the way he has (still I think that's lol, but I digress). Point is, to be blunt for a player unfamiliar with your play to an extent, no you were not "blatantly town" certainly not at the end of D1, let alone a top town pick and sandroba didn't really clear up for me until close to the end of N1. I incorrectly read him D1, blame that on inexperience on my end, and as for you, I'm not really familiar with your style of posting. Even if I gave sandroba my power, he wouldn't have gotten it if killed (night actions out of my control), or if another one of my town picks were higher than him on the playerlist had he have lived (I explained all that in my claim post) that person would have gotten it. And upon inquiry (never encountered my role before) I unfortunately could not put myself on that list either. Just saying. I need to AFK for a few hours but I'll be back. Honestly I felt like GlowingBear is the type of guy that can drive a lynch while Sandroba doesn't seem that type of person which is why I went on GlowingBear. I had only seem a glimpse of his town but in Student VII but that was it(I was coaching students that game and was more focused on my students there). | ||
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On May 15 2015 05:42 Onegu wrote: We are in a themed game... I doubt you are going to claim VT here as scum. Like why did you claim? Me and rsoul just went over this with you on how bad it is. So why the hell would you claim that as town now? I was tired of people thinking I was scum if BH is town (GlowingBear) and Xata was still scum reading me and you too and besides my role is kinda meh and we already got VT's in this game. | ||
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On May 15 2015 06:36 TalkingDead wrote: Right forgot about Xat. Re: Stutters. It's mostly setup speculation based around the number of confirmed KP powers. HTS I think is really towny. Yamato and VE are really towny. Damdred is dead. BM is ??? Of the blue claims, I think Stutters and LS are the most likely to not be town. Granted, Stutters is essentially excluded from being mafia under normal circumstances (unless Sandroba shot Palmer which doesn't seem likely); so the reason why I think Stutters is moreso because it's a huge amount of town KP and a night kill is far more in line with 3 party role. I kinda think BM might have just been town and awful; it's not outside of his playbook and it would be rather odd for mafia to have nukes when town can just auto-shoot them down. It's like useless extra KP. Plus, I find it rather odd that there would be no investigative role OR medic role in the setup. Coroner seems like a natural fit in this setup; or at worst parity cop. But having any of those three in addition to the amount of town KP seems heavily town favored despite the partial flips considering we're told only 5 mafia. If we assume every KP role so far is town, then town has more KP than mafia has members. That's rather excessive and (while yamato pointed out that Ver's game tend to have more KP) I think Hapa would've commented on or changed things. You realized that a Martyr is actually a town role not scum? | ||
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On May 15 2015 06:55 GlowingBear wrote: LS, you don't get it. Marv makes a mason qt with both palmar and VE. He doesn't trust these guys to tell them he was RECRUITED in another qt, but he trusts Damdred, Yamato AND TD (which he trusts is another town mason) to say he IS a POWER ROLE??? Then he ASKS to let Sandroba being added to his qt, and Sandroba is dead at night, and rsoultin is shot at the exact moment she starts suspecting marv and VE Like, come on. Are you suggesting that Marv and VE are scum together and killed rsoultin because of it? | ||
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Town just lost in Ippo and it was a game where I was heavily scumread early on and played like shit early on too if anyone wants my filter from that game here it is: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/482487-hajime-no-ippo-maifa?user=LightningStrike | ||
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On May 15 2015 13:54 Onegu wrote: But serious I dont know how you can dismiss my LS read when I was one of the people who talked to him about it with rsoul. If we didnt just talk to him and tell him it was bad then I would be saying anything but we did, he knows its bad to claim like that as town. He is trying to look like his town meta. You don't even consider the fact I'm town. Your tunnel is even worse than my tunnel on Stutters in Ippo............... | ||
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On May 15 2015 23:20 VisceraEyes wrote: Morning ladies. Why hasn't the thread run away with itself yet? I was expecting to have to catch up... Why you called everyone a lady when there is only 1 left? Also because the spamiest posters are kinda dead O_o | ||
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On May 16 2015 05:04 Stutters695 wrote: Anyway, I'm not 100% on Onegu. I would lynch him off of his filter, but the almost complete lack of resistance bothers me. Well in Ippo we had little reistance in all our mafia lynches after Day 1 lol. | ||
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On May 16 2015 05:17 Onegu wrote: Im resisting you are all cray cray to lynch me. LS is the correct lynch. Also why is yamato town? I town deal with it | ||
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On May 16 2015 07:32 Onegu wrote: What HtS case. Go to her filter she never actually calls me mafia. She says she cant read me and doesn't like the meta on LS claim. Like she says she has been on him since Horn for his meta points he always brings up. That is in game. Me and rsoul had a very long conversation in Team Speak with him about this and why its bad and he shouldnt do it as town. HtS just says I am a ok or fine lynch. Second LS never mentions about my point about him. He just says he has never claimed as mafia, sidenote HtS just said this also. That makes no difference as this is a themed game and scum most likely got fake claims which make it much easier to fake claim. Also the role he claimed is really easy to fake claim. Its not like he is claiming dreamweaver or janitor. Like the best scum point on me has been I am lazy this game. I havent been lazy I just dont have many reads. Im also sad I rolled VT in a themed game... But anyway Im VT not Scum or traitor. After I flip you fools need to take a big look at LS because my read isnt wrong. Like as town when he gets tunneled he like rage quits which he hasnt done here. Second he still doesnt have any scum reads other than me. Which is the current easy mislynch. If the only reason you are town reading him is because of his claim. Get the fuck off of it. Its a terrible reason to town read him at this point. Also why are you against me for throwing my vote away. Its so meh. ##Vote LS Oh Onegu I prob will flip at the same time assuming the assassin can use his power during the day phase. Anyways your read on me is bad since I'm Town not scum (Although my play been meh I will pick it up once Onegu gets lynched if the Mafia Assassin can't use his power during the day). | ||
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On May 16 2015 07:35 LightningStrike wrote: Oh Onegu I prob will flip at the same time assuming the assassin can use his power during the day phase. Anyways your read on me is bad since I'm Town not scum (Although my play been meh I will pick it up once Onegu gets lynched if the Mafia Assassin can't use his power during the day). Also HTS did make a 2 post thing about why you're scum too. | ||
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On May 16 2015 07:37 batsnacks wrote: LS I think you've played with Onegu before. Can you give me a meta read on Onegu? Mafia or horrible town can't tell which because his play isn't that good regardless of his alignment from my experience with playing with him. | ||
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On May 16 2015 08:06 Stutters695 wrote: Because with your boner on me being traitor, I almost feel you might actually be that. And I don't know if shooting a traitor flips me. I'm only half serious about lynching you, but stop shitting up the thread for real. You're spamming about a lynch that isn't going to happen on a completely flawed premise. It's getting old. To soon to face someone tunneling you like I did to you in Ippo? | ||
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On May 16 2015 08:10 GlowingBear wrote: I've already gave up. Onegu is an obvious mislynch and nobody is doing anything So whatever. See you guys later How is Onegu a obvious mislynch? | ||
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At least the JAT was scum as it kinda confirmed a little bit what I thought of him earlier about him being a little bit of a bully as scum. Okay since Onegu had flipped I will work even better now that the weight on my shoulders are gone for now. | ||
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On May 16 2015 11:22 GlowingBear wrote: God I should have shot JAT. Obvious town Onegu was obvious. How was he obvious town? | ||
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On May 16 2015 11:26 GlowingBear wrote: The way his wagon went on confirmed him as town. His play was also suicidal for a Mafia. It's a shame town isn't playing and I don't have the same persuasion skills as holyflare Well I'm town and now ready to play now that a person who was tunneling me is gone can you give me a run down on who you want to lynch the cases on them being scum please? | ||
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On May 16 2015 12:07 GlowingBear wrote: Nope. We lynch marv and only marv Unless town doesn't lynch marv But I am voting no one else tomorrow in case I live. Which I hope I don't Okay can you tell me why Marv is scum and not TD when both of them claim Mason Recruiters? | ||
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On May 16 2015 12:10 Oatsmaster wrote: Glowing bear is ignoring all the claims. Also ls, it's basically impossible that both of them are scum. I know it's like impossible that both are scum that why I asking him why Marv over TD. | ||
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On May 16 2015 12:19 GlowingBear wrote: I'm not saying marv over TD. I'm saying marv. Because I AM IGNORING THOSE CLAIMS LS, it's all in my filter. Can you tell me why marv is town, in the other hand? Okay so first you didn't like the fact he was dodging you hard then found it suspicious that Marv was willing to tell his role to Sandroba, Damdred, and Palmar who he didn't trust at the time which is weird to do. My arguement for Marv being town was he was the first one to claim Mason Recruiter in a high chance of a counter claim but that is only it. | ||
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On May 16 2015 13:05 GlowingBear wrote: No. 1) Marv's play is uninspiring, lurky, not actually trying to solve the game, voting people for weak reasons 2) Marv townread me because I was bad, and he knows I am bad as both alignments. He says that he can differ my scumbad to my townbad, but he doesn't explain how. Extremely dodgy 3) Marv raises suspicions on oats twice during day1. Never follow up this suspicion. Ignores me when I raise suspicions on oats but talks to me to say "BH is not the lynch". He saw those suspicions because this part of "BH is up for the lynch" was next to my suspicions on oats 4) Marv agrees with one point of my case on oats, does not say which point it is, say that he caught oats like that once AND COMPLETELY IGNORE OATS AGAIN. In other words: marv does not stick to his suspicions and rather vote on confirmed townies (BH, Vivax, Onegu) for weak reasons. Specially Onegu. I saw early in your filter how you felt about Marv being lackluster (Although I do agree about his play being lack luster compared to Linux and Horns when I had played with him when he was town when he was playing pretty good esp in Horns in Day Phase before LYLO where we were looking for the last scum and he found the scum there) and his dodging is pretty bad esp about both of your reads on Oats and how he just didn't talk to you about Oats really. I think you should shoot Marv or just lynch him. | ||
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On May 16 2015 13:36 GlowingBear wrote: You say this now? Also, I can't shoot anymore. Wish I did it yesterday. By the way, if you're really the Martyr, protect Yamato tonight. If he dies, I'll blame you. Also, RoL, can I take more of your posts please? I'm not aware of how much posts I'm wasting but I think I've used a lot. I thought you still had the power to shoot o.o Okay we just lynching Marv then. Also if he dies and I alive it most likely means there is a roleblocker left for scum. | ||
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On May 16 2015 22:17 Half the Sky wrote: 28/50 Ignore that last post I keep thinking its N3. I'm a doofus. Yamato seems towny to me as well. LS, would really like to know where he stands with the scumreads. Town: GlowingBear: Been pushing the the thread even when we were lynching Onegu it to suicidal to push againist the thread sentiment for scum. HTS: She had decent content throughout the game although fallen off a little bit but it might be because of irl stuff. Yamato: Had bad luck rolling scum twice in and row and actually produced much more content and stuff compared to his last scum game he did nothing Stutters: unCCed Vig and meta reading him as town too and will fight for him if for some dumb reason people want to lynch him. TD: Out of the two mason recruiters he's the town assuming it's Geript since Geript as scum acts more like a dick. VE: Claimed the shot on Xata who we thought was scum. KSC: Started out strong but seemed to fallen off a little bit but added some points to HTS thing on Onegu. Rsoultin: Okay I added the players who haven't flipped to the lists they fall to I felt like she was town even though annoyed she tried to work others and had some decent content when she was alive. OWS: Defended Me and a rsoultin a little bit and had some good points about the mason it could be a useless regardless of marv's and TD's alignment. Tfrel: Had some decent content but was slacking off in the last Day Phase and he needs to make up for it. Null: Bats: Seems trolly and asked if I had played with Onegu before and his content wasn't that great but it's bats who knows. Rebirthoflegend: Very little content and it starting look like his 1 page filter as scum :| Scum: Xata: I scumread him and so did many others before him being shot by VE and he's a natural scum :O Marv: His play been very lackluster this entire game compared to the few times I had played with him when he was town | ||
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On May 16 2015 23:23 Oatsmaster wrote: You have 2 scumreads?? And one is dead already. hm. I have 2 null reads too meaning they could be either town or scum. | ||
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On May 17 2015 00:46 GlowingBear wrote: Why is nobody discussing VE's "oh I don't think JAT should be shot, it should be BH for information" then instantly voting VE without searching for further information, like, considering LS for the lynch? How would VE vote himself lol. | ||
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On May 17 2015 03:24 GlowingBear wrote: Well, I was very town-looking, I could be a medic dodge Also the fact that by reputation you just stick to scum(or you think scum) so hard that mafia would be forced to shoot you hence why I protected you N1. | ||
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On May 17 2015 05:53 justanothertownie wrote: The fact that he sticks to his reads does not mean that scum has to shoot him at all. He normally drives these lynches though (See Carol if you need a reference). | ||
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On May 17 2015 05:51 Damdred wrote: ....... I hate to say this it might sound mean but 9/10 times GB will,never get shot. Especially with a stacked players list. That's not against GB obviously GB was my number 1 townread with Sandroba being my number 2 I was debating on saving Sandroba or GlowingBear I guess I shoulda went on Sandroba. | ||
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On May 17 2015 06:06 justanothertownie wrote: No, he normally does not get listened to at all ^_^ Well got listened to at Carol though lol and that was one of my very few experiences with him as town (I haven't played much with him at all like maybe 3-5 total together tbh lol) | ||
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On May 17 2015 06:19 sandroba wrote: It's okay I'm used to it. I only get medic saved when I'm mafia. Otherwise dead n1 every game. Gotta figure out exactly what makes mafia compared to town when I medic playing with you. | ||
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On May 17 2015 06:22 Damdred wrote: I'm just not sure I agree, you have super townread Sand got universal town damdred. Got marv, Palmar, rsoultin. Scum will,never ever shoot GB even as a medic,dodge over these people medic dodge or no. And I just don't get it I guess to me it's suboptimal but I also got yelled at for shooting bm so yea Your BM shot was weird but so was my protection to GB so it's traded lol. | ||
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On May 17 2015 06:25 justanothertownie wrote: His BM shot was really good. It shouldn't have been necessary but since BM got pardoned it was. BM was to trigger happy for me to think he was scum so that why I thought his shot on BM was weird lol. | ||
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On May 17 2015 06:28 Damdred wrote: Well I was trying to remember where LS reads were and I think,he was torn leaning on those I named I was more torn on Palmar and Marv since I was heavily townreading rsoultin but I thought people would take advantage of her being night killed so early lately and thus didn't protect her. | ||
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On May 17 2015 06:39 Damdred wrote: I still don't get why people thought the shot was so bad to rage and call me Scum in thread. Bm had been pretty scummy honestly and really looked bad for power use etc., to scummy to,be Scum isn't a good defense. And the way he's hot nuke 2 is super scummy even if it's fake. It was just really confusing to,the thread and even,if,he was town two days of,the same,convo isn't good. So explain why it's bad to,me ls Again some people like me were townreading him for being to trigger happy but it was a good shot in end. | ||
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On May 17 2015 07:00 GlowingBear wrote: No, wait a minute. I've played badly, I've being playing badly since my last newbie game (I blame the coaches), but you can't say that I'm never listened to. Holyflare was lynched in Carol because I kept tunneling him since day2 Marv was going to be lynched at some point and that is why I always kept pointing suspicions on him since he scumread Onegu day1 It's not because I'm playing badly half of the times that I'm playing badly. Tell me what's wrong with the points I've brought on marv. The last post answering LS. I liked of your points and even then I felt like his play was very lackluster in terms of content and being townie so meh. | ||
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On May 17 2015 10:49 rsoultin wrote: Lol phone texting...had marv pegged practically all game and called marv/td on obs ^^ Also didn't want ve to think I think he's stupid lol So you pegged marv from the beginning? | ||
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