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LightningStrike
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April 29 2015 21:03 GMT
#38
/in if I can.
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LightningStrike
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May 08 2015 16:25 GMT
#121
On May 09 2015 00:25 Damdred wrote:
I'm the most over rated player on the forums... Besides bh believe it

I think I more overrated O_o
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LightningStrike
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May 10 2015 00:29 GMT
#167
Hey guys!
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LightningStrike
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May 10 2015 00:30 GMT
#168
So with a 10 post limit I might resort to like a Geript Student V style for this phase.
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LightningStrike
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May 10 2015 00:36 GMT
#170
On May 10 2015 09:31 KelsierSC wrote:
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On May 10 2015 09:30 LightningStrike wrote:
So with a 10 post limit I might resort to like a Geript Student V style for this phase.


1st person to use post limit excuse

1 mafia down

I not mafia it just it going to be hard for me to post with only 10 posts allowed this phase.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
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May 10 2015 12:24 GMT
#238
Post Number 4: If you guys don't know what posting Geript did in Student V he was using a Wall of Text style pretty much all until EoD 2. Okay here some posts I would like to talk about:+ Show Spoiler +
On May 10 2015 09:43 rsoultin wrote:
2!

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On May 10 2015 09:05 Onegu wrote:
Im Town GRUMBLE GRUMBLE... My previous 46% is taking a hit. Im not happy about this one bit...


ay! but don't you want to be the same alignment as me? since you think i can suss you out 100% of the time? lol

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On May 10 2015 09:12 Half the Sky wrote:
1/10

Town here. Again. *happy dance*

Excited for this game, particularly with some of the possible roles I've not seen yet in normal games (puppeteer, dreamflower, pardoner, nuker etc).


mmmm happy dance doesn't seem too happy town here. stop. again. stop. then happy dance? i dunnae hts we may be on opposing sides again :/

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On May 10 2015 09:12 KelsierSC wrote:
On May 10 2015 09:04 rsoultin wrote:
1!

hay naku o.0

necesito usar los numeros como prp, ja?

es mejor lol

hi ^^ yay for game finally starting lol so much hype! \o/

towniest town who ever towned por supuesto, who is the next towniest?


you only know if you're town, you don't know how towny you are yet


lol yeah? oh damn, you caught me xP shoulda read my pm! (the role changes how towny i am, does it? xP such odd ideas you have, ksc) hmmm try hard right from the start, ja? pero i don't know why you'd want to waste a post on saying my role pm changes my level of towniness, any more than why ls would waste a post saying hi before commenting on a geript student V style posting strategy

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On May 10 2015 09:29 Damdred wrote:
Well I rolled town.

I think Rs is likely town


one post and i'm already your favorite person, net hubby? lol >< that's awfully quick, no? what makes you think so? (besides me saying so )

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On May 10 2015 09:37 yamato77 wrote:
MAKE ME A MOTHER FUCKING DREAM FLOWER

DO IT


Yamato-kun! how happy are you today? lol...finally ending that scum streak maybe?

Rsoultin have a good point about Damdred in that Damdred maybe giving to easy of a townread on her after 1 post from her. Also she a good but null point about KSC in that he made a similar type of post I did about chaning posting style and making some useless posts.+ Show Spoiler +
On May 10 2015 09:50 batsnacks wrote:
17. Sui / Following

above TUI THE JOYOUS, LAKE
below CHêN THE AROUSING, THUNDER

The trigram Tui, the Joyous, whose attribute is gladness, is above; Chên, the
Arousing, which has the attribute of movement, is below. Joy in movement
induces following. The Joyous is the youngest daughter, while the Arousing
is the eldest son. An older man defers to a young girl and shows her
consideration. By this he moves her to follow him.

THE JUDGMENT

FOLLOWING has supreme success.
Perseverance furthers. No blame.

In order to obtain a following one must first know how to adapt oneself. If a
man would rule he must first learn to serve, for only in this way does he
secure from those below him the joyous assent that is necessary if they are to
follow him. If he has to obtain a following by force or cunning, by conspiracy
or by creating faction, he invariably arouses resistance, which obstructs
willing adherence. But even joyous movement can lead to evil
consequences, hence the added stipulation, "Perseverance furthers" --that is,
consistency in doing right-- together with "No blame." Just as we should not
ask others to follow us unless this condition is fulfilled, so it is only under
this condition that we can in turn follow others without coming to harm.
The thought of obtaining a following through adaptation to the demands of
the time is a great and significant idea; this is why the appended judgment is
so favorable.

THE IMAGE

Thunder in the middle of the lake:
The image of FOLLOWING.
Thus the superior man at nightfall
Goes indoors for rest and recuperation.

In the autumn electricity withdraws into the earth again and rests. Here it is
the thunder in the middle of the lake that serves as the image--thunder in its
winter rest, not thunder in motion. The idea of following in the sense of
adaptation to the demands of the time grows out of this image. Thunder in
the middle of the lake indicates times of darkness and rest. Similarly, a
superior man, after being tirelessly active all day, allows himself rest and
recuperation at night. No situation can become favorable until one is able to
adapt to it and does not wear himself out with mistaken resistance.

THE LINES

°Nine at the beginning means:
The standard is changing.
Perseverance brings good fortune.
To go out of the door in company
Produces deeds.

There are exceptional conditions in which the relation between leader and
followers changes. It is implicit in the idea of following and adaptation that if
one wants to lead others, one must remain accessible and responsive to the
views of those under him. At the same time, however, he must have firm
principles, so that he does not vacillate where there is only a question of
current opinion. Once we are ready to listen to the opinions of others, we
must not associate exclusively with people who share our views or with
members of our own party; instead, we must go out and mingle freely with
all sorts of people, friends or foes. That is the only way to achieve something.

°Nine in the fifth place means:
Sincere in the good. Good fortune.

Every man must have something he follows--something that serves him as a
lodestar. He who follows with conviction the beautiful and the good may feel
himself strengthened by this saying.

°Six at the top means:
He meets with firm allegiance
And is still further bound.
The king introduces him
To the Western Mountain.

This refers to a man, an exalted sage, who has already put the turmoil of the
world behind him. But a follower appears who understands him and is not
to be put off. So the sage comes back into the world and aids the other in his
work. Thus there develops an eternal tie between the two.
The allegory is chosen from the annals of the Chou dynasty. The rulers of
this dynasty honored men who had served them well by awarding them a
place in the royal family's temple of ancestors on the Western Mountain. In
this way they were regarded as sharing in the destiny of the ruling family.
I have a feeling that bats may annoy me this game with type of post.+ Show Spoiler +
On May 10 2015 10:43 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 10:33 KelsierSC wrote:
On May 10 2015 10:26 Trfel wrote:
Hello.
My name is Trfel.
I was going to make some huge entrance post for this game, which I figured that approximately zero people would read. But then I didn't have enough time, so I didn't.

So instead, I'll just cut to the point.

I had this great toneread on Half the Sky, and then I realized that rsoultin already commented on the same thing. I agree that Half the Sky's "happiness" does feel very forced.

I'm also somewhat suspicious of LightningStrike. Not for wasting posts, but for justifying a lower posting (and higher content) style by saying he will play like someone else did in a game isn't necessary at all. If LightningStrike wanted to use a low post count style because of the post limit, I would expect him to just go ahead and do that (and quite possibly announce what he would be doing). But I really don't understand why he would justify this by comparing it to someone else in a different game.

I would be inclined to think that KelsierSC is town, but this post gives me pause.
On May 10 2015 09:58 KelsierSC wrote:
rsoul you got a mafia yet?
Rsoultin already expressed that she is suspicious of Half the Sky, so I'm really not sure why KelsierSC is asking this. KelsierSC has no reason to say this, so it feels like buddying to me.


she made a post with a lot of words in it but I had no idea who was mafia.
Which shows that you did not read the post very carefully at all. You seem willing to be present in the thread and to talk with people, but you aren't reading carefully. Suspicious.
+ Show Spoiler [Explanation] +
On May 10 2015 09:43 rsoultin wrote:
2!

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On May 10 2015 09:05 Onegu wrote:
Im Town GRUMBLE GRUMBLE... My previous 46% is taking a hit. Im not happy about this one bit...


ay! but don't you want to be the same alignment as me? since you think i can suss you out 100% of the time? lol

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On May 10 2015 09:12 Half the Sky wrote:
1/10

Town here. Again. *happy dance*

Excited for this game, particularly with some of the possible roles I've not seen yet in normal games (puppeteer, dreamflower, pardoner, nuker etc).


mmmm happy dance doesn't seem too happy town here. stop. again. stop. then happy dance? i dunnae hts we may be on opposing sides again :/

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On May 10 2015 09:12 KelsierSC wrote:
On May 10 2015 09:04 rsoultin wrote:
1!

hay naku o.0

necesito usar los numeros como prp, ja?

es mejor lol

hi ^^ yay for game finally starting lol so much hype! \o/

towniest town who ever towned por supuesto, who is the next towniest?


you only know if you're town, you don't know how towny you are yet


lol yeah? oh damn, you caught me xP shoulda read my pm! (the role changes how towny i am, does it? xP such odd ideas you have, ksc) hmmm try hard right from the start, ja? pero i don't know why you'd want to waste a post on saying my role pm changes my level of towniness, any more than why ls would waste a post saying hi before commenting on a geript student V style posting strategy

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On May 10 2015 09:29 Damdred wrote:
Well I rolled town.

I think Rs is likely town


one post and i'm already your favorite person, net hubby? lol >< that's awfully quick, no? what makes you think so? (besides me saying so )

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On May 10 2015 09:37 yamato77 wrote:
MAKE ME A MOTHER FUCKING DREAM FLOWER

DO IT


Yamato-kun! how happy are you today? lol...finally ending that scum streak maybe?
First, there aren't actually that many words. It's just a post with a lot of quotes and white space.

I colored rsoultin's post as indicated by her statements. She's pushing at least the same level of suspicion on multiple people as you are with you own accusation (that rsoultin's made a wordy post with no scumreads).

It's still early in the game truffle you can take a deep breathe about that o.o + Show Spoiler +
On May 10 2015 11:20 Damdred wrote:
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On May 10 2015 11:15 GlowingBear wrote:
O, hai!

I'm John Travolta!

Yamato and HTS are Mafia.


This is almost as bad a read as me saying GB is town just saying.

However at this point I have a couple of preliminary town reads I believe just by tone and posting style and somewhat on content.
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On May 10 2015 11:23 KelsierSC wrote:


Rsoultin seems to be genuinely using the posts to press good ideas while pressing issues that are important in the thread.

HTS and Trfel both seem to have a good tone about them and it seems it is easy to follow what they mean while it somewhat mirrors what RS says I think it is a good sign of things to come and both are good leans.

KSC... is a bit harder for me to get a handle on at this point, I have a slight town lean on him. His tone and general demeanor remind me of Void Mafia at this point. However his style is also reminiscent of mini mafia to an extent, but the content is different. I'm pretty ok with him at this point.

LS is interesting, he always wastes posts but we'll see what his other posts do.



I'm a bit confused damdred

Rs is pressing good ideas and important issues , but the only "good" idea she has really pushed is that HTS has a forced tone and is mafia.


Good point by KSC because that type of stuff isn't exactly alignment indicative since Mafia wants to look like town.+ Show Spoiler +
On May 10 2015 11:29 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 10:52 KelsierSC wrote:
On May 10 2015 10:43 Trfel wrote:
On May 10 2015 10:33 KelsierSC wrote:
On May 10 2015 10:26 Trfel wrote:
Hello.
My name is Trfel.
I was going to make some huge entrance post for this game, which I figured that approximately zero people would read. But then I didn't have enough time, so I didn't.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzLZJaAm2hw
So instead, I'll just cut to the point.

I had this great toneread on Half the Sky, and then I realized that rsoultin already commented on the same thing. I agree that Half the Sky's "happiness" does feel very forced.

I'm also somewhat suspicious of LightningStrike. Not for wasting posts, but for justifying a lower posting (and higher content) style by saying he will play like someone else did in a game isn't necessary at all. If LightningStrike wanted to use a low post count style because of the post limit, I would expect him to just go ahead and do that (and quite possibly announce what he would be doing). But I really don't understand why he would justify this by comparing it to someone else in a different game.

I would be inclined to think that KelsierSC is town, but this post gives me pause.
On May 10 2015 09:58 KelsierSC wrote:
rsoul you got a mafia yet?
Rsoultin already expressed that she is suspicious of Half the Sky, so I'm really not sure why KelsierSC is asking this. KelsierSC has no reason to say this, so it feels like buddying to me.


she made a post with a lot of words in it but I had no idea who was mafia.
Which shows that you did not read the post very carefully at all. You seem willing to be present in the thread and to talk with people, but you aren't reading carefully. Suspicious.
+ Show Spoiler [Explanation] +
On May 10 2015 09:43 rsoultin wrote:
2!

Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 09:05 Onegu wrote:
Im Town GRUMBLE GRUMBLE... My previous 46% is taking a hit. Im not happy about this one bit...


ay! but don't you want to be the same alignment as me? since you think i can suss you out 100% of the time? lol

Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 09:12 Half the Sky wrote:
1/10

Town here. Again. *happy dance*

Excited for this game, particularly with some of the possible roles I've not seen yet in normal games (puppeteer, dreamflower, pardoner, nuker etc).


mmmm happy dance doesn't seem too happy town here. stop. again. stop. then happy dance? i dunnae hts we may be on opposing sides again :/

Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 09:12 KelsierSC wrote:
On May 10 2015 09:04 rsoultin wrote:
1!

hay naku o.0

necesito usar los numeros como prp, ja?

es mejor lol

hi ^^ yay for game finally starting lol so much hype! \o/

towniest town who ever towned por supuesto, who is the next towniest?


you only know if you're town, you don't know how towny you are yet


lol yeah? oh damn, you caught me xP shoulda read my pm! (the role changes how towny i am, does it? xP such odd ideas you have, ksc) hmmm try hard right from the start, ja? pero i don't know why you'd want to waste a post on saying my role pm changes my level of towniness, any more than why ls would waste a post saying hi before commenting on a geript student V style posting strategy

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On May 10 2015 09:29 Damdred wrote:
Well I rolled town.

I think Rs is likely town


one post and i'm already your favorite person, net hubby? lol >< that's awfully quick, no? what makes you think so? (besides me saying so )

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On May 10 2015 09:37 yamato77 wrote:
MAKE ME A MOTHER FUCKING DREAM FLOWER

DO IT


Yamato-kun! how happy are you today? lol...finally ending that scum streak maybe?
First, there aren't actually that many words. It's just a post with a lot of quotes and white space.

I colored rsoultin's post as indicated by her statements. She's pushing at least the same level of suspicion on multiple people as you are with you own accusation (that rsoultin's made a wordy post with no scumreads).


pushing suspicion isn't calling someone mafia, hence the question.
What do you currently think about rsoultin, then?
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On May 10 2015 11:00 rsoultin wrote:
hrum, truffle-bby you talk of buddying while mirroring my obviously wonderful preliminary reads but lol >< you don't see the humor in that? xP i presume since you're suspicious of ksc and talking of buddying you find me town (another easy read and i already told everyone as much xP)

what's with reposting the player list?
Oh hush, you...

Anyway, I didn't repost the player list... I originally added the filters, the official player list is a copy-paste of the player list that I posted
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On May 10 2015 11:20 Damdred wrote:
HTS and Trfel both seem to have a good tone about them and it seems it is easy to follow what they mean while it somewhat mirrors what RS says I think it is a good sign of things to come and both are good leans.
I'm obviously biased about myself... but Half the Sky only made one post, with nothing of actual value.
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On May 10 2015 09:12 Half the Sky wrote:
1/10

Town here. Again. *happy dance*

Excited for this game, particularly with some of the possible roles I've not seen yet in normal games (puppeteer, dreamflower, pardoner, nuker etc).
Do tell me how you managed to arrive at your conclusion from this post?

I remember HTS overreacting to my opening post in Newbie LX and everyone talked about it so it could be alignment indicative for her O_o+ Show Spoiler +
On May 10 2015 12:36 yamato77 wrote:
Tina
Damdy
Kels
Truffle

Bill
LS
HTS
Oats
batsnacks
Onegu
glowingbear
No exlpanation for his reads in this post and it kinda bad to leave your reads just like that.+ Show Spoiler +
On May 10 2015 15:18 Blazinghand wrote:
Can't post, computer and internet are broken sry kkthxbai
Seems like I want to be lazy post and the Blazinghand I know when he was town was rnging his lynch Day 1 and actually pushed it. Blazinghand might be scum that post but will see later.+ Show Spoiler +
On May 10 2015 15:24 TalkingDead wrote:
GlowingBear's reads are definitely odd. For example, how he says the read is magic then tries to give a short crappy explanation for why he's scum. I get the sense that Damdred-GlowingBear is either town-town or mafia-mafia. It's odd because Damdred looks reasonably towny and GlowingBear looks like mafia. Damdred despite apparently being a strong player uses pretty weak arguments against him. It just feels like both want to throw shit at each other and neither are interested in actually starting a train on them.

Onegu looks quite odd. Yamato looks really towny though; he can do this as mafia but I'd peg him as town. So far, I'd lynch BillMurray. I've seen him as town and as town he rarely does absolutely nothing and be useless. I would prefer him as a lynch. BlazingHand should be policy lynches/shot ASAP. Rsoultin is being townread for very bad reasons; she's might be town, but nothing he's posted is something she couldn't have or wouldn't have posted as mafia. Otherwise, meh.
Damdred and GlowingBear usually do use odd arguments towards each other regardless of both alignments as far I could tell from the past games I had played with GlowingBear and Damdred in the same game. + Show Spoiler +
On May 10 2015 15:50 rsoultin wrote:
4!

insomnia says hi!

i lack the lust of the lustre of the stuff or something lol xP

TalkingDead knows me >> this no me parece very fair :/ i like the TalkingDead entrance though hrm

oneg looks like oneg lol >< what more is there to say about an oneg? but he's ignoring me ;o;

as is oats so unloved. digame, is it like an oats to post just to complain and disappear?

warming up to ksc some yes, truffle prob town cause he's truffle <3 hi truffle ^^

bats eh...gets townread for sarcasm stays sarcastic and obstructive = null

otras cosas....

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On May 10 2015 09:29 Damdred wrote:
Well I rolled town.

I think Rs is likely town


meh damdy, why you lying? this after my first post? that's not just cause i posted first, and they're right...very null entrance post lol ADEMAS there is the bolding of yamato while calling it a bad read (scumread) from GB, but not the hts, yet later you say you like hts' tone lol >< which is fine if you were looking for someone to notice, but when people only say that you like my pushes while not liking my read, you praise them for thinking critically? eh :/

bill murray and blazhinghand maybe looking for reactions? bill murray's entrance uber scummy and too willing to give away the postehs so don't have to post, and blazinghand quite brazenly lying in an easily discoverable way xP

gb dunnae, he's weird anyway. have a way to read him that isn't viable until later anyway

if i've forgotten you you're boring and you should go slit your wrists <3 xoxoxo (disclaimer: an rsoul will not be held liable for inability to understand sarcasm :0)

Pretty bad argument on Truffle being town because just because someone posted like their normal self doesn't always mean they are town. I do generally agree with people saying Damdred might of made to easy of a townread on rsoultin but we should see.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
May 10 2015 15:41 GMT
#257
Post number 5: TLDR of Post Number 4 is that Blazinghand can be scum for his opening, Damdred might of TMI'd rsoultins alignment on her null openign post, HTS could be scum on her opening seems very odd.+ Show Spoiler +
On May 10 2015 23:09 Stutters695 wrote:
Cool, this started. I don't think I've ever done a n0, anything special about it?
Night 0 means we start at the Night Phase not the day phase so nothing special other than that plus we only get 10 posts. + Show Spoiler +
On May 10 2015 23:57 rsoultin wrote:
6!

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On May 10 2015 22:41 Palmar wrote:
On May 10 2015 22:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
Where the fuck is Palmar? Palmar where the fuck are you?

Hi


Hi

-radiates ksc's head some more so he has an excuse for poor reading comprehension- xP only town reads/town leans lol >< i refuse to bow to the man! \o/ and make pretty colored list posts. read, you boob, or stop talking about me

bueno

ls is right; hts can have wobbly entrances as scum which is why i go for the toneread early on her (and no, i do not intend to ignore everything else from her)

you are kinda right, ls, in that my reason for the truffle read is weak. it's also not actually in the thread he's just one of the players i'm best at reading early lol and i'm not interested in going into something that only means something to me

hmmm @ marv

jat also gets a hmmm...the early commitment is nice but lol i doubt my hts toneread, awesome amazing-sauce as it is, is the only thing in this thread worth commenting on xP

at least palmar doesn't even pretend to be contributing lolol

stutters you make me ;o;

like xata. will share why later. or someone else can tell me why xD -makes puppy eyes at the thread-

She doesn't seem to like Stutters but Stutters opening is null at best. She also was making fun of Palmar for not doing jack shit but it's the weekend give some time. Also she backing talking me about her Truffle read.
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 11 2015 00:17 Damdred wrote:
Good morning, slept through my alarm sadly.

LS post I dislike actually, it is a lot of words but kinda nit picks certain posts and ignores others. It also lacks any form of conclussions just says a lot and nothing without much commitment.

Kel, why are you leaning town on gb?

Rasputin being a bit of a pita bit that's normal.

Its kinda weird feeling having so many people town reading me this early, its bizzaro land but I like it.

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It's still early I don't feel like commiting to much myself so early. Also I did read some of the past posts myself it just some of them weren't really stuff I would like to comment on.
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#265
Okay I going to clear about it. I do think HTS is scum she made a very similar type of entrance as she in Newbie LX (I didn't catch her till Day 2 when I was VT because she was pushing for my lynch when she knew how I play as town compared to scum at the time so it wasn't a meta scumread on her early) Damdred why you called rsoultin town so early?
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May 10 2015 17:17 GMT
#267
On May 11 2015 02:13 Xatalos wrote:
How is her entrance scum-specific exactly? Does she open some way as scum, not as town?

Wait I retracting I had misread it she done this type of entrance as town just been a while since she did (Titanic) sorry about that HTS just bleed town for me please? <3
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May 10 2015 18:25 GMT
#279
On May 11 2015 03:18 Xatalos wrote:
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On May 11 2015 02:17 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 11 2015 02:13 Xatalos wrote:
How is her entrance scum-specific exactly? Does she open some way as scum, not as town?

Wait I retracting I had misread it she done this type of entrance as town just been a while since she did (Titanic) sorry about that HTS just bleed town for me please? <3


Right -.- And what's your read now if we ignore that?

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On May 11 2015 03:15 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 11 2015 02:44 marvellosity wrote:
##Vote: BlazingVivax

badass


Not 3P?

Town she had some good large posts on analyzing stuff about GlowingBear and is thinking critically.
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#284
On May 11 2015 03:49 Damdred wrote:
The thing is, my first read halfway joking first post and all of that jazz.

However LS why are you paying special attention to my intro but discounting all of my other content and inferring I'm Scum from it. And you instantly retract your hts read because of later content but not using the same rules with me.

That's not the town LS I know.

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It just your intro seems to much tmi it's like shooting fish a barrel on your read on rsoultin but the rest of your content is fine but did Bill really give his last of his posts to you?
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#298
On May 11 2015 03:47 KelsierSC wrote:
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On May 11 2015 02:00 Half the Sky wrote:
3/10

Kelsier -

Through the course of the game yes - particularly when I was pushing him D2 and after I died, he was calling me scum hardcore (the only one to do so) in that game. You'd have to read either in the obs qt or the post-game but he was particularly noted for being the only one to scumread me all game, that's how he stuck out that game.

Also Kels, I find it interesting you pulled that up because in this game he's saying

On May 10 2015 21:24 LightningStrike wrote:

[...]

I remember HTS overreacting to my opening post in Newbie LX and everyone talked about it so it could be alignment indicative for her O_o[spoiler]

[...]


He's saying that because I was scum in Newbie LX, that my opening this game could be alignment indicative.

Though that still raises an interesting point.

Why does he say "alignment indicative" instead of straight up calling me scummy or leaning scum on me?


ah ok I get what you're saying now. you're saying he should very much be calling you scum or town because of the previous game in which you were scum. I thought you were saying at the beginning of that game he called you scum which isn't how I read it.
LS has been pretty all over the place so far , kind of looks like floundering scum, pressured into a read and shows a bit of push back calling HTS scum, then instantly retracting and now calling her town.

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On May 11 2015 03:25 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 11 2015 03:18 Xatalos wrote:
On May 11 2015 02:17 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 11 2015 02:13 Xatalos wrote:
How is her entrance scum-specific exactly? Does she open some way as scum, not as town?

Wait I retracting I had misread it she done this type of entrance as town just been a while since she did (Titanic) sorry about that HTS just bleed town for me please? <3


Right -.- And what's your read now if we ignore that?

On May 11 2015 03:15 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 11 2015 02:44 marvellosity wrote:
##Vote: BlazingVivax

badass


Not 3P?

Town she had some good large posts on analyzing stuff about GlowingBear and is thinking critically.


so LS do you agree with the analysis that HTS did ?

HTS I also don't like TD , but i don't agree with your reasons. point 1 is kind of meh, if you don't like someone you can give your read and a reason without asking them a question. Point 2 is ok , I sort of think at first glance the argument damdred puts forward looks strong and it certainly comes from a townie place, but is actually weak in retrospect, I definitely think not explaining why the argument is weak is a negative for him. for point 3 I don't know if he blows it out of proportion, he hasn't really pushed any agenda as far as i'm aware.

As i said, he did some stuff I didn't like but nothing like concrete I guess.

Your GB points are interesting but I don't think they make him mafia. You don't have to respond every time someone calls you scum or if someone else doesn't share a scumread with you.
I think GB is town for some reason

But I like the effort your putting in and you have pushed some interesting stuff so I like you so far.





A tiny expect her stuff on me obviously.
On May 11 2015 05:13 Onegu wrote:
@ TalkingDead Traitor is totes in this game... Read OP, but I cant be it because I didnt read hapas post...

@rsoul Acknowledging you, But this is like my 6th straight town game

@GB I always want to roll scum, well known fact.

@yamato did you roll scum again?

@bats you really expected me to understand that lol... And then you expected ONEGU to comprehend it lol nice.

@LS ignoring me

@everyone else <3 I AM ONEGU!!!




You already cashed in the VT type of claim so early as scum you need to bleed town.
On May 11 2015 05:23 KelsierSC wrote:
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On May 11 2015 04:03 TalkingDead wrote:
yamato77
Yamato like many veterans generally gives very few fucks when he can't lynch people. Between tone (slight hopeful, slight asshole) and his color coding, these are far more likely to come from town!yamato. The interesting thing to note is that he doesn't seem to care whatsoever what he says; instead, he pops in, makes a comment and leaves. I for one expect more from him, but there doesn't look like he has any ulterior motive in posting. Rather he just says what he wants to say. That's why I have him as so strongly town.

KelsierSC
I think he's town mostly based on how obviously hypocritical he is. He spends the first half of his posts talking about how awful other people's post are and how they're wasting posts while he doesn't really bother adding anything himself. That's behavior that I tend to associate with town more than mafia. There's also the aspect that there's no real directional push; rather, it's pecking at a variety of other players. The only reason why I would put him on the town side of null instead of fully town is because his reads are pretty terrible. I find how he backs off of GB rather odd; I can't really understand:
On May 10 2015 19:27 KelsierSC wrote:
He has gone back and looked over his reads and made some alterations which is a towny thing to do.

Because when you look at GB's filter, I'm not seeing any alterations in his reads. First post is essentially a joke; GB has 1 moderate length reads post and a post expanding upon his MIA Damdred read. Rather the GB read feels very much like a preemptive defense while trying to push elsewhere. So if either GB or Kelsier flips mafia, then I'd take a heavy look at the other.

VisceraEyes
I find it rather out of place that VE is somewhat bothering to play if VE is town. I agree with Kelsier that on tone, VE looks a bit towny, but quite often VE has complained about not being able to lynch people. By this I mean that in games like PYP or here, where there's a 'pre-game' phase where you have alignment and can talk but are unable to lynch people quite often he as complained about not bothering to play because there's very little point in playing due to the lack of a perceived threat. He can't realistically threaten to lynch or shoot or nuke or whatever anyone and therefore feels less capable of applying pressure. I do find it odd that he didn't harp on BillMurray's last post at all because usually town!VE hates and tends to scumread the "leading on" type of post. His Batsnacks read and his GB/Batsnacks/Onegu observation are things that I'd normally expect from town!VE though. Since in at least a few of those games VE was mafia and because town!VE reads, I'm going to leave him at null to town.

marvellosity
I have him as town for tone alone. It's really not worth considering him until day 2 at the very earliest and if he's alive on day 3 then just lynch him. But I will be sheeping him on day 1.

HalftheSky
HTS is town. Period. She's made an exceptional number of interesting points (GB reaction to yamato, Damdred's word choice, initial poke at LightningStrike).

BillMurray
On May 10 2015 18:40 Bill Murray wrote:
Oh I've been filter diving. Didn't expect anyone to post.

As per "This rule will not be absolutely strictly enforced" in the op

I hope going 3 posts over isn't a big deal... because I have been working on a massive post tomorrow.

This post strikes me as particularly odd. Not only had he donated posts to Damdred, something which historically has happened more from mafia than town, he doesn't use any of his posts productively. He promises more useful things in the bland future. Yet, the most interesting thing to me is his caring about going over the limit. That's a behavior that I expect far more to come from mafia as they know they're part of a team which they would hurt by getting modkilled due to rules. Town tends to just damn the torpedoes and full speed ahead. This is on top of BillMurray not being an awful player as town. By far the best lynch on day 1.

Onegu
There's a variety of odd things with him. I think he's the third best lynch on day 1. He's drinking but doesn't post. There's this post:
On May 10 2015 09:57 Onegu wrote:
Man I really hope I get the traitor just realized I can get that. Then I can be scum!!!

Which is a really odd thought process to me. How could town possibly get the traitor role? Usually town that can become mafia has a different role name. This is also a normal game and therefore no alignment changes should ever happen.

Trfel
Trfel's posts aren't quite in-depth enough for me to really think he's town, but I like the points he's making. Null-town for now and flesh it out more on day 1.

LightningStike
Others have covered this for the most part. LS is the second best lynch for D1.

Damdred

GlowingBear
In looking through things there are a few things I find interesting.
On May 10 2015 12:36 GlowingBear wrote:

4)Kelsen

Null opening. Commenting on something already dropped in the thread it's an easy out for Mafia but the joke made me have a townish gut read on him. A negative read + a positive read = null FUCK YEAH MATHMATEKS.

Then he calls LS out for legit reasons. Townread.

I already know he is mafia because SICK READS (TM)

Saying Rasputin is town for her opening is odd, there is nothing alignment indicative in there, so bad opening.

6)LS

Posts two posts to say he will resort on consolidated posts. Lol I'm tempted to call him Mafia for that but I can see it coming from both alignments... Argh.

I found this post quite odd. Initially so because he reaffirms his Damdred scumread but then bothers to comment on something that's supposed to be viewed as scummy but is just null. The townread on KelsierSC I find interesting because Kelsier also ended up with an odd townread on GlowingBear. But also because GlowingBear doesn't mention Trfel at all while Trfel had an interesting point on how LightningStrike was posting. But in looking further at it, he doesn't seem to place heavy weight on LS being mafia based on talking about how he's going to make consolidated posts. He gives Kelsier a townread for mostly calling out LS for "legit reasons" which GlowingBear doesn't want to follow up on. It's just exceptionally odd. GlowingBear's reads in general are just exceptionally odd on top of that. Initially, I felt like GlowingBear was trying to bus Damdred and Damdred was (at least initially) trying to back him out of that read in a semi-natural way and get GlowingBear to chill out. But in looking more specifically at the connections, the KelsierSC-GlowingBear connection is a bit more odd. I think there are better lynches on day 1 because often enough the person with really weird fucked up reads is just a bad towny which wouldn't be out of place for GlowingBear. But I also wouldn't balk at his lynch since something's definitely wrong here.

5)Damdred
This post is too long already and I need to get some food. I'll comment on him later. tl;dr I think GlowingBear vs Damdred is more likely to be town-town right now.

Nothing of note to say about
Xatalos
batsnacks
ObiWanShinobi
Oatsmaster
justanothertownie

MIAs
Palmer
Stutters
Vivax
Blazinghand
sandroba
RebirthOfLeGend


how rude.

I suppose the yamato thing is ok...I mean you had him as top town after two of his posts i think which were his all caps dreamflower and his colour code. Maybe you can argue a tone read now but at that point to call him top town i didn't like.

So at this stage if marv wanted to lynch a townread of yours , you would sheep that?

if I may be so bold to colour some of your reads would it be something like this

HTS
GB
Damdred
VE
Lightning Strike

because I have those exact reads yet apparently they are awful so i'm a bit confused.





Ya TalkingDead seems to contrdict himself there but his read (and yours) is wrong because I am Town not scum.
On May 11 2015 05:33 sandroba wrote:
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On May 10 2015 15:24 TalkingDead wrote:
GlowingBear's reads are definitely odd. For example, how he says the read is magic then tries to give a short crappy explanation for why he's scum. I get the sense that Damdred-GlowingBear is either town-town or mafia-mafia. It's odd because Damdred looks reasonably towny and GlowingBear looks like mafia. Damdred despite apparently being a strong player uses pretty weak arguments against him. It just feels like both want to throw shit at each other and neither are interested in actually starting a train on them.

Onegu looks quite odd. Yamato looks really towny though; he can do this as mafia but I'd peg him as town. So far, I'd lynch BillMurray. I've seen him as town and as town he rarely does absolutely nothing and be useless. I would prefer him as a lynch. BlazingHand should be policy lynches/shot ASAP. Rsoultin is being townread for very bad reasons; she's might be town, but nothing he's posted is something she couldn't have or wouldn't have posted as mafia. Otherwise, meh.


Another post that really bothered me was this one. I don't know how he got this idea that it must be town-town or mafia-mafia interaction but he is seems to be adamant about pushing it, but not about explaning why it must be. "It's odd because Damdred looks reasonably towny and GlowingBear looks like mafia." if this was his first impression why come to the conclusion they share the same alignment? Again it looks like and idea he is trying to push and not something that has logic or reasoning behind which feels like mafia agenda. This is further enforced by his next post which he saves himself the trouble of talking about damdred at all but now pushes the idea that it must be a town-town interaction with GB.

Ya it seems odd but I had seem similar stuff between them when they(GB and Damdred) were town-town maybe he picked up on something on their meta towards each other. Do you think TalkingDead is scum?
On May 11 2015 05:43 sandroba wrote:
@talkinghead
Quote:
"GlowingBear
In looking through things there are a few things I find interesting.
On May 10 2015 12:36 GlowingBear wrote:

4)Kelsen

Null opening. Commenting on something already dropped in the thread it's an easy out for Mafia but the joke made me have a townish gut read on him. A negative read + a positive read = null FUCK YEAH MATHMATEKS.

Then he calls LS out for legit reasons. Townread.

I already know he is mafia because SICK READS (TM)

Saying Rasputin is town for her opening is odd, there is nothing alignment indicative in there, so bad opening.

6)LS

Posts two posts to say he will resort on consolidated posts. Lol I'm tempted to call him Mafia for that but I can see it coming from both alignments... Argh.

I found this post quite odd. Initially so because he reaffirms his Damdred scumread but then bothers to comment on something that's supposed to be viewed as scummy but is just null. The townread on KelsierSC I find interesting because Kelsier also ended up with an odd townread on GlowingBear. But also because GlowingBear doesn't mention Trfel at all while Trfel had an interesting point on how LightningStrike was posting. But in looking further at it, he doesn't seem to place heavy weight on LS being mafia based on talking about how he's going to make consolidated posts. He gives Kelsier a townread for mostly calling out LS for "legit reasons" which GlowingBear doesn't want to follow up on. It's just exceptionally odd. GlowingBear's reads in general are just exceptionally odd on top of that. Initially, I felt like GlowingBear was trying to bus Damdred and Damdred was (at least initially) trying to back him out of that read in a semi-natural way and get GlowingBear to chill out. But in looking more specifically at the connections, the KelsierSC-GlowingBear connection is a bit more odd. I think there are better lynches on day 1 because often enough the person with really weird fucked up reads is just a bad towny which wouldn't be out of place for GlowingBear. But I also wouldn't balk at his lynch since something's definitely wrong here.

5)Damdred
This post is too long already and I need to get some food. I'll comment on him later. tl;dr I think GlowingBear vs Damdred is more likely to be town-town right now.
"

If I'm reading correctly you say there is plenty of reasons to suspect GB, wouldn't be against his lynch because there is definitely something wrong, but somehow you STILL think damdred and GB are the same alignment for some obscure reason that you never revealed AND now you think it's likely the are town-town??? WTF is this shit. I can't buy into a single thing you are saying, this feels like a huge pile of horse shit.

What think of GlowingBears alignment after breaking this post by him down Sandroba?
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LightningStrike
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#306
On May 11 2015 07:07 Damdred wrote:
Last post before phase one I'm afraid I thank you bm for the extra posts to defend and press the issue on LS.

A few thoughts I don't like talkings big list post, but so does most of the thread. I think the skip over me to tackle GB is interesting and makes no sense.

GB has promised content and not delivered up to this point. That is alignment indicative for him, he's ignored his top Scum reads and decided to waste posts. I think hrs a food lynch.

LS is still scummy for reasons outlined earlier, and I think the sudden turn on hts abd trying to half do his usual metaing of people AFTER hrs brings it up shoes he's just trying to get off people's radar at this point also.

I still have a lot of nulls but sandros posts are ok? Even if they are about me I hate they focus on one or two posts I've talked about a bit already and ignore other content. And a lot of it has already been said to an extent.... so maybe it's not as ok as I thought.

Any questions I'll answer at start of day


I honestly was trying to reserve my posts but EoN here let's see what happens.
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#323
Yay for the start of the day!
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#324
Okay so my only real strong read it HTS being town and starting to think that KSC is town too he seemed to think critically and been trying to push his reads.
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May 11 2015 00:37 GMT
#327
On May 11 2015 09:37 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 09:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On May 11 2015 08:16 yamato77 wrote:
On May 11 2015 08:12 GlowingBear wrote:
It's a shame veterans are too afraid to be the n0 kill and not contributing at all
Anyway I've already out of posts so I'll be waiting for dawn

JubJub list:

Obi
Bats
GB

Separate from mafia, these players are just stupid.


Yo what gives?

@BH: Why am I town?


you can't read and bh is a moron ^^ yay morons! \o/

can we lynch marv now?

Why you think Marv is scum?
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May 11 2015 00:47 GMT
#334
On May 11 2015 09:39 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 09:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 11 2015 09:37 rsoultin wrote:
On May 11 2015 09:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On May 11 2015 08:16 yamato77 wrote:
On May 11 2015 08:12 GlowingBear wrote:
It's a shame veterans are too afraid to be the n0 kill and not contributing at all
Anyway I've already out of posts so I'll be waiting for dawn

JubJub list:

Obi
Bats
GB

Separate from mafia, these players are just stupid.


Yo what gives?

@BH: Why am I town?


you can't read and bh is a moron ^^ yay morons! \o/

can we lynch marv now?

Why you think Marv is scum?


because the king of town is neither very kingly nor very townie

and perhaps gb thereafter, though i can't decide if it was an excuse for the so-called "frightened vets" or just sheer stupidity/lack of reading comprehension

He only have 3 posts since the game started and Palmar had only 1 post saying Hi but it's the weekend I think it's easier to figure out Palmar's alignment and Marv once they start posting because they can read each other pretty damn well.
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May 11 2015 01:04 GMT
#350
On May 11 2015 09:52 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 09:47 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 11 2015 09:39 rsoultin wrote:
On May 11 2015 09:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 11 2015 09:37 rsoultin wrote:
On May 11 2015 09:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On May 11 2015 08:16 yamato77 wrote:
On May 11 2015 08:12 GlowingBear wrote:
It's a shame veterans are too afraid to be the n0 kill and not contributing at all
Anyway I've already out of posts so I'll be waiting for dawn

JubJub list:

Obi
Bats
GB

Separate from mafia, these players are just stupid.


Yo what gives?

@BH: Why am I town?


you can't read and bh is a moron ^^ yay morons! \o/

can we lynch marv now?

Why you think Marv is scum?


because the king of town is neither very kingly nor very townie

and perhaps gb thereafter, though i can't decide if it was an excuse for the so-called "frightened vets" or just sheer stupidity/lack of reading comprehension

He only have 3 posts since the game started and Palmar had only 1 post saying Hi but it's the weekend I think it's easier to figure out Palmar's alignment and Marv once they start posting because they can read each other pretty damn well.


palmar is palmar and will do as palmar does

marv's silence is more alignment indicative, at least to me

going to commit to anything this game, ls, or just wait for everyone else to tell you what to do, make your reads for you?

hts, talk to me about who you want to lynch right now, mamacita <3

I committing to my townreads on KSC and HTS Marv inactivity can be alignment indicative but doesn't he normally got chess going on today but if he doesn't post stuff I know he can be do as town then he might be scum but we need him to post more before making conclusions.
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May 11 2015 12:57 GMT
#482
Morning guys just woke up to see the nuke and anti nuke and Tfrel looking good though afte the nuke stuff Also Palmar is actually here now so I really want him to bleed town esp because the last 2 times I had played with him he was scum (I was his scum mate in one of those games) and still haven't exactly figured out what makes Palmar scum at all when he's scum. Also the 1 person who calls Palmar Palmer is sicklucker from office when he(sicklucker) sent a pm to Palmer instead of Palmar who was the host for the game. I also liking Sandroba a lot this game he seems very insightful this time around I also don't like BM's early nuke he shoulda saved it for later when we starting seeing scum clearer.
@Marv: What are your current reads?
@Palmar: Thoughts so far in the thread?
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May 11 2015 13:02 GMT
#489
On May 11 2015 21:58 marvellosity wrote:
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On May 11 2015 21:57 LightningStrike wrote:
Morning guys just woke up to see the nuke and anti nuke and Tfrel looking good though afte the nuke stuff Also Palmar is actually here now so I really want him to bleed town esp because the last 2 times I had played with him he was scum (I was his scum mate in one of those games) and still haven't exactly figured out what makes Palmar scum at all when he's scum. Also the 1 person who calls Palmar Palmer is sicklucker from office when he(sicklucker) sent a pm to Palmer instead of Palmar who was the host for the game. I also liking Sandroba a lot this game he seems very insightful this time around I also don't like BM's early nuke he shoulda saved it for later when we starting seeing scum clearer.
@Marv: What are your current reads?
@Palmar: Thoughts so far in the thread?

Can't tell if srs

I always serious O_o
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May 11 2015 13:16 GMT
#500
On May 11 2015 22:14 marvellosity wrote:
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On May 11 2015 22:09 sandroba wrote:
On May 11 2015 22:01 KelsierSC wrote:
Sandro, can you explain something to me.

On May 11 2015 07:20 sandroba wrote:
@damdred any comments on what I've said about TD? I feel that I made a pretty strong point. And regarding about me saying what other people stated I'm reading the thread for the first time and I've shared my thoughts. I don't think anyone else has adressed the issues I've adressed in quite the same way and if somehow I've missed it and they share my feelings I'm glad that they do. I'm kinda on the fence about you because you've said so much, but I can't help but feel like a lot that you've said doesn't make much sense/ doesn't add up/ looks like fake content. It might as well be that you are town producing huge amounts of BS to try to look town, which I don't think is a particularly good strategy, however the way you've adressed the suspicions saying acting scummy was all a part of a plan I'm having a hard time buying into.
The person I feel most strongly about is TD and I would like you to share your thoughts on him/ what I've said about him.


On May 11 2015 05:59 sandroba wrote:
@LS this post was by talkinghead if you cared to read, but maybe my formating is not the best. Anyone who read it will know that I'm very suspicious of both TD and damdred. I didn't say anything about GB in my posts but if you must know I think GB is town.


On May 11 2015 10:14 sandroba wrote:
GB is my top town read so far, pretty much every single post he's made I agree with. I believe any questioning pointed towards him at this point is just a waste of space and we should be talking about TD and damdred instead.


so here you are suspicous of damdred, calling him scum want to talk about him , then


earlier marv had said this

On May 10 2015 20:17 marvellosity wrote:
hey Kels. Why does anything you say about TalkingDead make him mafia, deary?

This postcount thing making people just list reads feels really weird :p I have Damdred as towny and GB as scumweird for calling him mafia and not a lot else just yet.


and followed up later with

On May 11 2015 20:43 marvellosity wrote:
ok, so just read through the loltastic nuke + anti-nuke. I don't really get why people let this sort of thing slide. Also if BH was going to anti-nuke the nuke, I don't know why he did it so soon, it seems really information-restrictive.

Essentially it means we should by lynching BM.
On May 11 2015 13:10 Bill Murray wrote:
TalkingDead
Oatsmaster
HalftheSky

I've read all three of you pushing suspicions my way
When I bag scum with this (Trfel was super active last game, and is literally just skimping by posting to not put his neck out there this game) I want you all to bow down to me.
##Nuke: Trfel

BM being BM or not being BM, the bolded reasoning is just nonsense. Game's barely started. Why launch the nuke so soon? There's no reason for it. Time and time again in Ver games mafia are forgiven for really terrible in-thread plays on the basis it's too terrible to be scum. Except it's just ballsy yolo with the expectation of not being punished.

Giving posts unannounced to Damdred was also very weird.

tldr; terrible shot based on terrible reason, no sweepy under carpetty pls. I don't think this is a town nuke.

##Vote: Bill Murray


Random other things - sandroba looks better than other games lately, reads are more indepth, also I like performing a sexy naked dance while his eye is on me
My early damdy read good read
TalkingDead lynch bad lynch
On May 10 2015 09:57 Onegu wrote:
Man I really hope I get the traitor just realized I can get that. Then I can be scum!!!

Onegu may be mafia, the multiple !!! seem really OTT and follows up with this random post directed at a bunch of people with no meaning behind it


in response to this post you say

On May 11 2015 20:50 sandroba wrote:
@marv I agree with all your points (BM, onegu, damdred), but I'm having a hard time with the TD town read so if you could go into a little more detail maybe I can be convinced and get over it. The only thing that actually gave me pause was that he insinuated something that I think damdred caught onto as well.


meaning you agree that dam is town now, i'm not really sure where this sudden change came from. Then you said you agree with the point marv raised on dam but all he said was that he called him town earlier , it wasn't really a point as to why damdred is town.

It would be good if you could flesh this out because it seems like you are contradicting yourself just to read dam as town.

I changed my mind on damdred quite some time ago and have said so already. I was saying that I agree with some of his reads, but I would actually like him to elaborate on something because I have a really bad feeling about his posting so far. His reads all seem very shallow and direct, he doesn't seem to be considering other angles, is very dismissive, disconected from the game like he doesn't really care about the outcome and lacking emotion I usually see in his games as town. Not sure if I really answered your question, but I was really trying to get something out of marv without getting on his face to see how he would interact with me. So far I'm displeased.

You understand we're not even 24h through day 1 in a postcount restricted game, right?

The post restriction is even worse than Carol >.<
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#529
On May 11 2015 23:46 Palmar wrote:
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On May 11 2015 23:25 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 11 2015 21:01 Palmar wrote:
Btw if Trfel flips town we lynch BH for TMI and if he flips mafia we lynch BH for saving scumbuddy.

In conclusion we lynch BH.

You want to lynch BH for saving a townie. What...?

You have a new quest now JAT.

Find one person, outside of yourself, who took this post I wrote regarding BH seriously, as in something I actually wanted to do, and you will not be lynched.

However if you happened to be the only person in the thread boring enough to not notice that I was clearly just saying random shit, that makes you mafia because you're like the least funny, witty, relaxed person on earth when you actually are mafia.

##vote justanothertownie

+ Show Spoiler +

JAT's atrocious sex rating for being boring strikes again

You really bringing XXX to here lol. Also BH could be scum but not only for that it's the fact he really haven't done much outside of saving Trfel.
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#542
On May 11 2015 23:53 Palmar wrote:
Actually LS, you're like the perfect candidate for this shit. You're the lowest common sarcasm denominator.

Did you think I actually wanted to lynch BH today after writing that post?

At first yes but now that mention sarcasm now I see you don't lol I not really good at reading sarcasm on the internet
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#556
On May 12 2015 00:37 marvellosity wrote:
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On May 12 2015 00:36 Palmar wrote:
I have found 3 people that call me palmer consistently.

geript, sicklucker, tehpoofter.

all my money on geript

Geript is banned I think so therefore it's tehppofter.
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#568
Okay so I not even close to hitting my post limit so yay I can post more freely (bounces around the thread aimlessly). But seriously I donm't think TD is sicklucker or geript for different reasons. sicklucker doesn't post like TD does at all and usually bounces off the walls. TD isn't Geript because by meta Geript doesn't like that even in post restricted games (or his own imposed limit) he usually in his own catch up or imposed limit games he did similar to the style of posting I used in Night 0. I will check out tehppofter in a little bit to see how many games he played and check out his meta. I will report back when I done with my research of his meta.
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#576
On May 12 2015 01:22 justanothertownie wrote:
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On May 12 2015 01:20 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay so I not even close to hitting my post limit so yay I can post more freely (bounces around the thread aimlessly). But seriously I donm't think TD is sicklucker or geript for different reasons. sicklucker doesn't post like TD does at all and usually bounces off the walls. TD isn't Geript because by meta Geript doesn't like that even in post restricted games (or his own imposed limit) he usually in his own catch up or imposed limit games he did similar to the style of posting I used in Night 0. I will check out tehppofter in a little bit to see how many games he played and check out his meta. I will report back when I done with my research of his meta.

LS, I really think you could do more important/interesting things than trying to figure this smurf out.

Good point I just checked 2 of his game and already noticed that it's not Tehpoofter's posting style either so who knows we just have to roll a rng die to figure him out. What your thoughts on TD?
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#582
On May 12 2015 01:32 justanothertownie wrote:
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On May 12 2015 01:29 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 12 2015 01:22 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 12 2015 01:20 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay so I not even close to hitting my post limit so yay I can post more freely (bounces around the thread aimlessly). But seriously I donm't think TD is sicklucker or geript for different reasons. sicklucker doesn't post like TD does at all and usually bounces off the walls. TD isn't Geript because by meta Geript doesn't like that even in post restricted games (or his own imposed limit) he usually in his own catch up or imposed limit games he did similar to the style of posting I used in Night 0. I will check out tehppofter in a little bit to see how many games he played and check out his meta. I will report back when I done with my research of his meta.

LS, I really think you could do more important/interesting things than trying to figure this smurf out.

Good point I just checked 2 of his game and already noticed that it's not Tehpoofter's posting style either so who knows we just have to roll a rng die to figure him out. What your thoughts on TD?

I did not really have a problem with any of his posts so far. The town-town mafia-mafia stuff I admit was a bit weird but I don't see why it was a mafia thing to say.

I agree with the bolded part I still scratching my head about it tbh with you. If he's scum it wouldn't be for that stuff that is for sure.
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#599
On May 12 2015 02:05 yamato77 wrote:
marv, I don't really want to lynch BM

I do want to lynch JAT

lynch JAT with me

##vote: justanothertownie

Why is JAT scum?
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#656
God damn it Marv is looking townie and now he getting nuked................ Jesus BM got a nuking addiction problem here.(Cuddles next to rsoultin) Tina I have you town but can you please don't be so mean to Damdred even if he's rude to you? <3
Okay Xata is starting to pick up (He's wrong on my alignment and so is Damdred and JAT -_-) and looks okay but wouldn't lynch him Day 1 just yet. Also we don't seem to get the crazy calling everyone Mafia town Vivax here and he could be scum just for that. Anyone else agree with me about my Vivax read?
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#661
On May 12 2015 03:35 Damdred wrote:
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On May 12 2015 03:33 LightningStrike wrote:
God damn it Marv is looking townie and now he getting nuked................ Jesus BM got a nuking addiction problem here.(Cuddles next to rsoultin) Tina I have you town but can you please don't be so mean to Damdred even if he's rude to you? <3
Okay Xata is starting to pick up (He's wrong on my alignment and so is Damdred and JAT -_-) and looks okay but wouldn't lynch him Day 1 just yet. Also we don't seem to get the crazy calling everyone Mafia town Vivax here and he could be scum just for that. Anyone else agree with me about my Vivax read?


What is your vivax read?

why would you want to lynch someone you think looks ok?

My vivax read is scum. I would lynch someone that looks ok if there isn't any other choices to go for.
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#676
On May 12 2015 03:37 Damdred wrote:
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On May 12 2015 03:36 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 12 2015 03:35 Damdred wrote:
On May 12 2015 03:33 LightningStrike wrote:
God damn it Marv is looking townie and now he getting nuked................ Jesus BM got a nuking addiction problem here.(Cuddles next to rsoultin) Tina I have you town but can you please don't be so mean to Damdred even if he's rude to you? <3
Okay Xata is starting to pick up (He's wrong on my alignment and so is Damdred and JAT -_-) and looks okay but wouldn't lynch him Day 1 just yet. Also we don't seem to get the crazy calling everyone Mafia town Vivax here and he could be scum just for that. Anyone else agree with me about my Vivax read?


What is your vivax read?

why would you want to lynch someone you think looks ok?

My vivax read is scum. I would lynch someone that looks ok if there isn't any other choices to go for.


Most people have vivax as scum though.

Why though? Someone always looks worse than others, do you think xata is town?

Vivax as town loves to call everyone Mafia and he not exactly doing that this game. I have Xata as a slight townlean for now he seemed genuinely interested in some of the topics.
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#680
On May 12 2015 03:43 KelsierSC wrote:
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On May 12 2015 03:37 Damdred wrote:
On May 12 2015 03:36 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 12 2015 03:35 Damdred wrote:
On May 12 2015 03:33 LightningStrike wrote:
God damn it Marv is looking townie and now he getting nuked................ Jesus BM got a nuking addiction problem here.(Cuddles next to rsoultin) Tina I have you town but can you please don't be so mean to Damdred even if he's rude to you? <3
Okay Xata is starting to pick up (He's wrong on my alignment and so is Damdred and JAT -_-) and looks okay but wouldn't lynch him Day 1 just yet. Also we don't seem to get the crazy calling everyone Mafia town Vivax here and he could be scum just for that. Anyone else agree with me about my Vivax read?


What is your vivax read?

why would you want to lynch someone you think looks ok?

My vivax read is scum. I would lynch someone that looks ok if there isn't any other choices to go for.


Most people have vivax as scum though.

Why though? Someone always looks worse than others, do you think xata is town?


a lot of people had vivax scum for not posting though

since he posted rs and obi have both called vivax as town


no way BM is town , lynch with fire.

i'm hating xatalos more and more with each post, everything is very safe and it's kind of boring reading him, going along with thread sentiment, he wants to lynch LS and the only other reads he has given, which he had to be asked for, have been leans either way, not impressed.
i would lynch LS aswell but it just feels like an easy read for him to give.

People naturally scumread me early on regardless of my alignment and I need to fix that >.<
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#701
Seriously Xata you got a scumread on me yet you never interacted with me like come on dude entertain me -_-
@Vivax: Can I get your reads and thoughts so far?
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#707
On May 12 2015 04:17 Xatalos wrote:
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On May 12 2015 04:16 LightningStrike wrote:
Seriously Xata you got a scumread on me yet you never interacted with me like come on dude entertain me -_-
@Vivax: Can I get your reads and thoughts so far?


Could you give your current reads in a readable manner, preferably focusing on the stronger reads?

I got HTS as town she seems to try to get discussion going and not afraid of interacting with others plus her opening was very similar to her opening in the latest Titanic game when she was town.
I got KSC as he trying to interact with others trying to give his thoughts and stuff and haven't been blue hunting like the time I ran into him when he was scum (Carol).
I got Sandroba as town he actually had some good analyses early on that was insightful and isn't afraid of giving people a piece of his own mind.
I got rsoultin (tina) as town even though she was being a pain in the butt (which I don't blame her because of Damdred being a pain in the butt towards her) she actually got some decent content.
Vivax is my strongest scumread he haven't really posted much and not being crazy like I normally would expect from him when he's town.
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#708
On May 12 2015 04:24 sandroba wrote:
I really don't like jat, he feels very different from the town games I've played with him. He doesn't engage people giving him grief trying to figure out their alignment, but instead comes off as dismissive and angry. He also feels very detached from the game, posting statements instead of the usual inquiries and info digging that I normally see from town jat.
I don't think the BM lynch is going to be all that productive regarding info, but he seems to be a problem that needs to be dealt with sooner or later because suspicion will always be around him, especially if marv ends up not flipping scum, so I wouldn't mind a dayvigi dealing with him today.
Regarding Vivax I undertand the suspicion prior to him posting, but now that it started I don't see any reason in particular for the number of scum reads he is getting. Between BM and jat I think there is no reason to consider a vivax lynch today so far. Stutters on the other hand is someone that came in late that I find much more suspicous. He entered the thread and only commented on the most recent thing that happened, had no unique perspective or orignal read, just added pretty bland noncommittal statements. I would be much more inclined to lynch into those 3.

Interesting point he does seem a bit more angry than the last I played with him town and seems to be the same level or anger and bullying in Void, Horns of Africa, and XXX when he was scum. Also I think we should wait on Stutters when he starts posting actively since I got a good cut and dry on his meta.
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#734
On May 12 2015 05:48 Trfel wrote:
Half the Sky, I'm not a town leader. I've tried to be a town leader, and that doesn't work for me. Right now, I'm at this really weird place...

If Bill Murray ever becomes not the leading wagon, I get nuked. So if I want to actually scumread someone else, I need to be sure enough about it that it is worth me dying and leaving a huge potential mislynch target alive (assuming Bill Murray is in fact town, which is by no means guaranteed). It's actually quite frustrating.

I have an additional reason to be suspicious of Bill Murray, but it's best if I keep that to myself for now.

Furthermore, Bill Murray's play last game (Student Mafia VIII) was quite reasonable and good, while Bill Murray has played erratically as town in the past, given his /in post:
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On May 04 2015 11:21 Bill Murray wrote:
/in i am done with finals and promise to not be disruptive
I would expect him to be willing to interact with people and play reasonably. And his play here is very far below the play he showed last game.

The best reason to townread Bill Murray is that it would be really weird if scum had a role that could launch multiple nukes in one day. But if scum did have this role, I would see them giving it to Bill Murray, and I would see Bill Murray doing something rather like this.

Other than Bill Murray? I'm working on it. I have several suspicions, but they are best kept to myself at this time.

Why hide your suspicions I mean even if they are wrong we would like to know them.
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#735
On May 12 2015 05:54 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2015 04:25 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 12 2015 04:17 Xatalos wrote:
On May 12 2015 04:16 LightningStrike wrote:
Seriously Xata you got a scumread on me yet you never interacted with me like come on dude entertain me -_-
@Vivax: Can I get your reads and thoughts so far?


Could you give your current reads in a readable manner, preferably focusing on the stronger reads?

I got HTS as town she seems to try to get discussion going and not afraid of interacting with others plus her opening was very similar to her opening in the latest Titanic game when she was town.
I got KSC as he trying to interact with others trying to give his thoughts and stuff and haven't been blue hunting like the time I ran into him when he was scum (Carol).
I got Sandroba as town he actually had some good analyses early on that was insightful and isn't afraid of giving people a piece of his own mind.
I got rsoultin (tina) as town even though she was being a pain in the butt (which I don't blame her because of Damdred being a pain in the butt towards her) she actually got some decent content.
Vivax is my strongest scumread he haven't really posted much and not being crazy like I normally would expect from him when he's town.


Could you clarify how you read Vivax? I don't remember playing with him when he's town (probably have but forgot). I think I've played with him when he was scum two times and both times he spread some random suspicion and was overall quite lazy/useless, especially later on.

I kind of liked your post after this one where you explained your read on jat. It felt like you were actually considering his alignment.

Gotta go to sleep soon but I'll consider alternative lynches when I get back to reading.

Vivax as town is usually calls everyone scum at one point or another and actually engage people with somewhat reasonable manner till later in the game. As scum he's much lazier and loves to bus. You had played with Town Vivax in Carol
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#738
On May 12 2015 06:09 Xatalos wrote:
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On May 12 2015 05:58 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 12 2015 05:54 Xatalos wrote:
On May 12 2015 04:25 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 12 2015 04:17 Xatalos wrote:
On May 12 2015 04:16 LightningStrike wrote:
Seriously Xata you got a scumread on me yet you never interacted with me like come on dude entertain me -_-
@Vivax: Can I get your reads and thoughts so far?


Could you give your current reads in a readable manner, preferably focusing on the stronger reads?

I got HTS as town she seems to try to get discussion going and not afraid of interacting with others plus her opening was very similar to her opening in the latest Titanic game when she was town.
I got KSC as he trying to interact with others trying to give his thoughts and stuff and haven't been blue hunting like the time I ran into him when he was scum (Carol).
I got Sandroba as town he actually had some good analyses early on that was insightful and isn't afraid of giving people a piece of his own mind.
I got rsoultin (tina) as town even though she was being a pain in the butt (which I don't blame her because of Damdred being a pain in the butt towards her) she actually got some decent content.
Vivax is my strongest scumread he haven't really posted much and not being crazy like I normally would expect from him when he's town.


Could you clarify how you read Vivax? I don't remember playing with him when he's town (probably have but forgot). I think I've played with him when he was scum two times and both times he spread some random suspicion and was overall quite lazy/useless, especially later on.

I kind of liked your post after this one where you explained your read on jat. It felt like you were actually considering his alignment.

Gotta go to sleep soon but I'll consider alternative lynches when I get back to reading.

Vivax as town is usually calls everyone scum at one point or another and actually engage people with somewhat reasonable manner till later in the game. As scum he's much lazier and loves to bus. You had played with Town Vivax in Carol


Could be, can't remember him from there. Probably because the game was so short (I think it was the game where I was busted D1 and the game ended in a draw because of host failure or something)

Tbh he's kind of been calling people scum so far. Not sure if that metric is so accurate.

No you conceded as scum because we lynched Unholyflare lol and Vivax was Night Killed I think. Ya he starting to call people mafia now so maybe it isn't alignment indicative as I thought but still he hasn't reallly done much other than arguing with others.
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#739
On May 12 2015 06:00 Vivax wrote:
LS I'm sort of confident you're town and I'm a pleb, why do you think I'm mafia?

Because all you been doing was arguing with others and doesn't seem like you got a whole lot of info other people's alignments. Thoughts and reads everyone please?
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#742
On May 12 2015 06:16 batsnacks wrote:
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On May 12 2015 06:15 Inspector Javert wrote:
On May 12 2015 05:47 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 12 2015 05:41 Half the Sky wrote:
19/60

EBWOP - at Vivax, also saying "fuck you bh" after he anti-nuked BM isn't helping your credibility atm.

JAT - what is your current DNL list?

Vivax - If you're not scum, then tell me who is.

Also regarding the recent BH nuke, I think it's a towny action, though I'm with Rasputin - explain what you thought of Trfel as you were saving him, or if you really saved him off a tone read?

Or even better, looking at him now, do you regret saving him?

I think the following players should not be lynched today for different reasons. Order is not important.

marv
GB
Trfel
sandro
HTS
yamato
bats
rsoultin
BH
Damdred
TD
Palmar


I'm good with this list. Would add Oats to it.


This is me sorry smurf post. I swear I am never smurfing again once a certain game is over.

I was going to say that you posted on your smurf lol.
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#934
Hello guys I had caught up and people are now wanting to policy lynch BM even though I think he's town for the fact he's to trigger happy to be scum with his nuke o.o Also people are suspecting Xata(His filter looked okay but I can be convinced that he's scum if someone can case him pretty good) now too along with Oats(He seems lazier than Office Mini and Void when he was lazy town) plus BH(Which I kinda agree with some of the thoughts from others about BH regarding his content regardless of his power). rsoultin is getting extremely angry at Onegu since Onegu is being a pain in the butt to her... Also GB looks very townie atm and I pretty sure he will catch scum very fast like he did in Carol :O
@KSC: Yes I actually do have High Functioning Autism I did tell you that I think in our latest game together when you or someone joked around using Autism as a insult -_-
@Bill Murray: Don't feel discouraged man I believe you are town and I want you to prove to everyone how you are town!
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#944
On May 12 2015 14:08 rsoultin wrote:
okay -_- clearly i'm doing something wrong if everyone and their brother is scumreading me -_-

that like never happens

i could just beat you over the head gb with the idiocy of me being your pretty scum team's chosen buss but whatever. i'd rather hear where your scumread comes from, frankly -_-

I don't think you're scum o.o
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#945
On May 12 2015 14:07 Trfel wrote:
Actually.... RebirthOfLeGenD just ninja-voted (well, he explained it like 12 hours ago).

Why is he present enough to vote in the voting thread, but not to read/post in this thread? I heard justanothertownie say that he can be extremely lazy as town, can someone confirm if this is true? Otherwise I could very easily lynch him.

I will check Rebirthoflegend meta regarding how lazy he is town compared to scum in the morning.
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#1062
Palmar I think Sandroba is town since he did nothing at all the last time he was scum with me in JOAT except for a shitty cop check shannie trying go for a double bus on me and Sandroba and this game he been doing lots of analyses so I believe quite frankly he's town. BTW I will take a look at RebirthofLegend's meta and see if it matches what people said of him being lazy as town.
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#1067
On May 12 2015 22:44 Half the Sky wrote:
35/60

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On May 12 2015 22:38 LightningStrike wrote:
Palmar I think Sandroba is town since he did nothing at all the last time he was scum with me in JOAT except for a shitty cop check shannie trying go for a double bus on me and Sandroba and this game he been doing lots of analyses so I believe quite frankly he's town. BTW I will take a look at RebirthofLegend's meta and see if it matches what people said of him being lazy as town.


Read pages 51-53 of the thread, and specifically sandroba's responses to TD, myself, JAT, etc.

We're not having a problem with his activity this game. It's his read progression.

I sometimes have weird read progression myself so sometimes townies have that issue. Although I do agree about something about bats when he's scum: He's a lurker based on Aperture when he was scum.
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May 12 2015 13:52 GMT
#1068
Okay so Rebirthoflegend can be lazy as both alignments he generally more lazy as town than scum but you wont be able to tell to later part of this day phase or Night 1/Day 2 area so he isn't the best lynch today.
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#1069
On May 12 2015 22:46 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2015 22:39 Palmar wrote:
On May 12 2015 22:38 LightningStrike wrote:
Palmar I think Sandroba is town since he did nothing at all the last time he was scum with me in JOAT except for a shitty cop check shannie trying go for a double bus on me and Sandroba and this game he been doing lots of analyses so I believe quite frankly he's town. BTW I will take a look at RebirthofLegend's meta and see if it matches what people said of him being lazy as town.

Please do not post your findings in the thread because I don't care about shitty meta.

Thank you.

Since when are you so abrasive towards LS? Wtf is wrong with you?

He was abrasive the very first time I played with him Metal.
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May 12 2015 13:54 GMT
#1072
On May 12 2015 22:53 justanothertownie wrote:
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On May 12 2015 22:52 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 12 2015 22:46 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 12 2015 22:39 Palmar wrote:
On May 12 2015 22:38 LightningStrike wrote:
Palmar I think Sandroba is town since he did nothing at all the last time he was scum with me in JOAT except for a shitty cop check shannie trying go for a double bus on me and Sandroba and this game he been doing lots of analyses so I believe quite frankly he's town. BTW I will take a look at RebirthofLegend's meta and see if it matches what people said of him being lazy as town.

Please do not post your findings in the thread because I don't care about shitty meta.

Thank you.

Since when are you so abrasive towards LS? Wtf is wrong with you?

He was abrasive the very first time I played with him Metal.

Maybe, but since then he was your biggest fan. This is really out of character.

It is a little out of character I don't know if it's alignment indicative or not.
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May 12 2015 15:58 GMT
#1147
Damdred why you shoot BM when we just had him pardoned by GB and the fact we have multiple people that look worse than BM?
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May 12 2015 16:00 GMT
#1149
On May 13 2015 00:58 TalkingDead wrote:
I'm going to take a nap. I'm going to place my vote on Vivax. Palmer told me he was a 1.5 of the sexy scale and I've heard that he's nailed at least 1 scum team solely based on that. He also told me that if he weren't straight, that he would totally let me get in his pants. I don't think I believe him about that. He's never even had sex so I don't think he even knows what he would like.

He was refering to XXX which was a sex flavored game when he the lower rating poeple were mostly mafia except for 1 person (Prplhz).
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#1153
On May 13 2015 01:02 Damdred wrote:
You can't be serious ls just isn't reading the thread.

Ugh dude we have Xata who people don't like, Oats, and Vivax all 3 of them are scumread by the majority and yet you choose to shoot BM because he would stagnate the thread? That just terrible reasoning......
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May 12 2015 16:42 GMT
#1165
On May 13 2015 01:09 Half the Sky wrote:
46/60

GlowingBear -

1 Xatalos

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On May 12 2015 06:43 Half the Sky wrote:
22/60

Xatalos is looking like playing to his scum meta. In Carol both (town) GB and Vivax cased him and a central point they had on a scum Xatalos was how murky his reads were in justifying his switches. GlowingBear in particular stated that Xatalos didn't have deep reads on people.

I get the same impression here from the reads he's made so far.

On May 12 2015 03:22 Xatalos wrote:
On May 12 2015 03:12 Damdred wrote:
On May 12 2015 01:58 Half the Sky wrote:
15/60

Pfff, you ninjaed me BM.

On May 12 2015 01:51 Bill Murray wrote:
I realize now what you meant but I guess I misread it before

and the differentiation between the lurkers is because Trfel is obviously mafia to me this game

if my nuke doesnt land on him im going to vote him. I am admittedly a little behind this game and need to catch up


Alright, so you still think Trfel is the way to go then. Do you think anything he HAS posted is screaming scum?

Second part of this post aimed at Damdred -

On May 12 2015 01:41 Damdred wrote:
Can we not policy lynch vivax today XD maybe a day vig could just take him out lol.

I agree roughly that the pregame where BM gave his posts up and didn't do much is kinda meh. It helped me immensely at that juncture though. As such the excuse that BM used to fire the nuke isn't necessarily the least believable thing I've ever read. It's based on meta yes but I didn't feel it was horrible, it could of led to some really useful information and its a pity that it didn't. (10)


I explained prior that BH's anti-nuke could be town or mafia motivated. Where do you stand on this (given the bolded statement)?


Theres really not much to say? I think it was dumb of BH but I don't think him being dumb is really indicative...

Anyway I actually like Yamato at this point, hes not useless per scum game. He seems to have actual thoughs behind what hes posting, I think he is an ok town lean presently.

RS can you give me something to work with?

Xata, I agree with you that LS still is scummy and that post is a good example. However, you used the post count restrictions the last time I caught you as well </3. Tell me what you think of Jat, Palmar and Marv.

(11?)


Hehee. It also works well as an excuse precisely because it's true

Don't really know Palmar that well. He's been pretty light-toned and active from what I saw so maybe a slight town lean?

I think jat was more proactively leading discussion in the other game (Ippo). So far he's seemed a bit too nitpicky and reactive to my liking... Might be scum, I guess. We'll see.

I've had little success reading marv in the past. Last game (Ippo) I also thought he seemed a bit disinterested / detached, but he was town all the same. I'd strongly oppose lynching him D1 just based on some vague feeling when he has the potential to almost single-handedly figure the game out.


Also whilst LS didn't really impress me early on, I also don't think Xatalos had an original stance on LS and the quote he uses to substantiate his read on LS is also pretty shaky. At least a few people mentioned the conditional wording that LS had in his opening posts.

On May 12 2015 02:46 Xatalos wrote:
Thanks for the attention Damdred I'm sure my early posts were a bit more in line with my scum meta considering the post restriction (-> less posts than usual) and already being in another game that's approaching endgame (-> even less time / attachment to spare to another game, admittedly my own fault for signing up). I'm now mostly caught up, though, so ask away.

What struck me as most scummy so far is probably LS. I just can't get over the uncomfortable feeling I get from posts like these:

On May 11 2015 21:57 LightningStrike wrote:
Morning guys just woke up to see the nuke and anti nuke and Tfrel looking good though afte the nuke stuff Also Palmar is actually here now so I really want him to bleed town esp because the last 2 times I had played with him he was scum (I was his scum mate in one of those games) and still haven't exactly figured out what makes Palmar scum at all when he's scum. Also the 1 person who calls Palmar Palmer is sicklucker from office when he(sicklucker) sent a pm to Palmer instead of Palmar who was the host for the game. I also liking Sandroba a lot this game he seems very insightful this time around I also don't like BM's early nuke he shoulda saved it for later when we starting seeing scum clearer.
@Marv: What are your current reads?
@Palmar: Thoughts so far in the thread?


It's just... so typical scum play. Posting large, inconclusive paragraphs and questions that don't really show any insight or real interest in the game.


LS generally isn't one to be articulate but at least in this particular paragraph he does reach some conclusions on two people from knowing "LS speak" for lack of better words. But he's also made conclusions on people in other posts.

So at least looking through Xata's filter, I've got a decent scumlean on him.

Need to AFK atm.


2 Vivax

I call Vivax out for doing jack all about 20h or so into the day.

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On May 12 2015 01:23 Half the Sky wrote:
11/60

[...]

Vivax on the other hand has done jack all, and his scum meta (as is Yamato's, though I'm less certain on him for activity) is doing jack all. So why Xata over him?


When Vivax DOES appear in thread, his posts show a scumlike behaviour.

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On May 12 2015 05:12 Half the Sky wrote:
16/60

[...]

My stance on Vivax remains the same. Though he's posted, now that he's being called out, it's posts like these that give me the impression he's posting for the sake of posting.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=710&topic_id=484076

It's pretty obvious going into Ras's filter why she does this, it also shows no part on his end searching for information that would determine her alignment.


Above quote on Rasputin gets nowhere, plus if you look at Vivax's filter there is zero followup.

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On May 12 2015 23:18 Half the Sky wrote:
40/60

[...]

Like what about his posting his town? I thought I asked to elaborate before. Because the tanking his game is the worst part about Vivax and posts like these from him

On May 12 2015 03:39 Vivax wrote:
I'm gonna play badly this game btw, but it will help my scum play. Sadly it was one of the things that made rayn quit.


On May 12 2015 04:49 Vivax wrote:
Rso no that much of a pita in this game, what's going on? Actually explaining her reads all the time not just interfering with other people's.

Might be she's aiming for the townie of the month award but then that's what's odd about all of that.
Also she seems particularly attentive to stuff adressed to her, also feels unusual.

Metatonish read, not the rso I'm used to who was always the townie one.


On May 12 2015 06:00 Vivax wrote:
LS I'm sort of confident you're town and I'm a pleb, why do you think I'm mafia?


...are basically him just posting to post - no follow through on Rasputin whatsoever if he truly suspected her.

[...]


The above quote I tried to illustrate to sandroba what I found wrong with Vivax. But that should make it a bit more clear.

1 The quality of his posting doesn't reflect credible scumhunting in any manner.
2 Trashing his town meta (his excuse for his current play) isn't credible after the fact.

And at LightningStrike:

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On May 13 2015 00:58 LightningStrike wrote:
Damdred why you shoot BM when we just had him pardoned by GB and the fact we have multiple people that look worse than BM?


FFS you aren't reading. RTFT please. Damdred answered this twice over in the last two pages.

Now I'm out.

Tbh I disagree on using it on a mislynch and would rather hit scum with it because honestly it's better hitting scum than town that is a mislynch. Tbh he shoulda used it on a scumread but it's his call.
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May 12 2015 17:04 GMT
#1174
On May 13 2015 01:55 Damdred wrote:
Ls is more than likely scum now, if you look at his past games you see a ton of hesitation about his reads. Especially on kinda meh people like bm was.

Here he is just extra sure that bm is a mislynch no hint of paranoia that he could of been scum, which he could of been. Its just to sure of someone's alignment that he should t be.

He was to trigger happy to be scum and actually looked townie in my eyes and I had played with BM before once but it was a somewhat inactive game (Student VIII) and again I hated his early play stuff there too so he most likely town.
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#1204
On May 13 2015 03:01 rsoultin wrote:
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On May 13 2015 02:54 Xatalos wrote:
On May 13 2015 02:47 rsoultin wrote:
62/76

fine. i'll play ball, but only because i think there might be some random townie out there similarly incapable of reading

my read progression on you isn't strong because my read on you isn't strong. i was sheeping damdred as a townread who has demonstrated in the past that he is much better at reading you than i am. my filter makes that clear a million times over, which is why i know you're not reading ^^ oh, that and you've shown an amazing ability to not read entire posts of people who are in the thread talking with you at the time

you may think it's cute to sheep ksc's awful read, but i don't. he sits here and changes his mind based on little then thinks it's scummy for others to? a "180" on someone you don't have a strong lean on in the first place is not a "180" and if either of you genuinely believe that you're imbeciles ^^

as for ls...

On May 12 2015 02:53 rsoultin wrote:
12/60

On May 12 2015 02:47 Vivax wrote:
On May 11 2015 22:17 marvellosity wrote:
On May 11 2015 21:48 Bill Murray wrote:
Marv is just scum who doesnt want to keep a powerful town role around
##vote: marv

honestly I summed up why Im nuking Trfel. I played with him last game and he was wayyyy more active early on. He was the first post in the thread, and was dominating thread sentiment D1. I'm seeing a polar opposite from him.

btw this post makes it much more likely BM is mafia after my original accusation, because he's still trying to justify it.


On May 12 2015 01:25 marvellosity wrote:
Vivax really is an excellent lynch. Xata pretty ok lynch too though.



Really simple question dudes. What happened to BM here?


ummm he's lynching bm? what's your point?

@xata

don't take this to the bank cause bad track record but i actually think ls could be town this game for the silly little smurf sidebar lol >< also for some of the phrasing used when he did it

kinda more interested why this is the only thing you want to talk about, though. let me make it easy. not lynching ls right now. give me someone else you want to lynch


let me make this really, really simple for you. i have a tendency to read ls town. i'm aware of it. but him going out of his way to collect meta on anyone is usually a sign that he's town, and that he specifically said "and then i'll report back!" is specific phrasing i've only seen him use as town. could he imitate it, and could i be wrong again, sure. this is a lean. as in a WEAK read

any more questions as to why reads that i say are weak or leans are "weak"? cause this is a stupid push


Dunno when I have called your reads weak or actually pushed you? You could try reading yourself. I just said that your reads were near impossible to understand and that you might be scum for that and your convenient read progression on me (basically adapting to thread sentiment all too well).

You wouldn't be my preferred lynch today by far though.

I guess you might have your own way of reading LS, but it hardly warrants calling my read on him trash. It's mostly gut feeling, I admit, it's just that I've rarely gotten such a spider sense of someone being scum just from their all too vague / fluffy posting style.


63/76

this is literally the last post i'm wasting on this discussion. literally. the last.

no you did not specifically use the phrasing "weak". you implied it. you implied my read progression doesn't make sense and called me scum for it. that is pushing me. perhaps we define it differently, but you are pushing suspicion in my general direction, a suspicion i might add that is practically word-for-word the same as ksc's...one of the patterns damdred was talking about about you iirc

nor did i call your read on him "trash". i didn't like that it was THE ONLY thing you were pulling from the thread. ls could be scum. statistically and based on my light read he's more likely town, and he is an ALL TOO EASY mislynch, so you focusing on him and ONLY him is not a good sign for you, xata

of course i'm not your "preferred" lynch today. i'm never getting lynched today, and certainly not for this nonsense. congratulations, though ^^ i'm almost at the point where i feel comfortable voting you based purely on my own read, mr. parrot. i'll readdress when i'm not as irritated -_-

(Cuddles) Don't let Xata be mean to you about your read on me.
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May 12 2015 21:40 GMT
#1300
I can be convinced to switch to Xata if you can tell me he's mafia and you're not.
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May 12 2015 21:41 GMT
#1301
On May 13 2015 06:40 Vivax wrote:
I'm really good at reading him. Last time he was mafia I scumread him D1 and nobody lynched him. FML. But he conceded at endgame. I think it was Carol.

Indeed it was in Carol.
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May 12 2015 21:49 GMT
#1306
On May 13 2015 06:44 Half the Sky wrote:
52/60

I need to stop posting, really need to conserve for EoD/night. But this is where I stand.

Where I stand on my null/scumreads:

The policy vote category
Batsnacks, Stutters, ROL (all lurk as either alignment)

Null
Trfel (town to null based on the fact he's been out of thread too long. Could use more insight on reads other than Vivax/Onegu.)
Onegu (Very torn on this one. I'm seeing both scum and town tells in him with tone. I don't consider activity in of itself indicative.)
VE (I honestly have no idea how to read him. Nothing is screaming scum to me but would like to see how he's so sure on Stutters.)

Under review but never the lynch tonight
Palmar (Nothing seemed off at first glance but he has tricked me as scum. Will need to re-read.)
KelsierSC (Can't follow logic easily, but I know from Void and even Titanic, this is possible for his town play. Will need to re-read more closely)
Sandroba (not sure I'm understanding his reads, probably doesn't make him scum, but need to review D2)

Scum lean
LS (Called out on not reading the thread twice, most of his last meta diving has been null reads)

Probable Scum
Blazinghand (I said before I don't like how his role actions to speak for him, not seeing anything in the line of scumhunting, even in Titanic 7 he did that eventually. Unlike Damdred or GB in this respect.)
Oatsmaster (Dodging questions, the reads on Sandroba were horrible)
OWS (Main issue is the read on Vivax. Townreads him for a pretty bad reason and then "prepares" to scumread him again to try and fit in. Eventually votes him. Others have mentioned this too.)

Lynch it with fire
Xatalos (Loose/murky reads, positions on Rasputin are contrived at best. Case on page 58.)
Vivax (My case is on page 58. Inactivity first 20h of the game, excuse of trashing town meta is not credible, pointed questions with no info followup, the reads on marv and myself are contrived)

Voting Xatalos now, pref him or Vivax lynched.
Will compromise with the town circle/reads with a vote on Blazinghand, Oats or OWS if it spares any other reads.

You realized that sometimes I skimped out to much regardless of my alignment? Also RebirthofLegend is much easier to read later on by meta and so is stutters.
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May 12 2015 22:02 GMT
#1315
On May 13 2015 06:55 rsoultin wrote:
68/76

<3 was hoping to get a response back from marv

but i'd be happy to lynch bh lol >< viva isn't acting like a scum about to be lynched imo

Thoughts on Xata?
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May 12 2015 22:14 GMT
#1322
On May 13 2015 07:04 Damdred wrote:
She won't lynch xata because I pushed him and she's upset with me

I just checked her filter and she didn't really speak much on what alignment she think Xata is and would prefer her to explain her exact position on Xata right now(The post I saw of her thing about Xata was she might end up voting him but who knows). Anyways I going to vote Xata I think KSC's case on him and other people's thoughts on him are pretty solid and would allow Vivax to live for another day just hope he will step it up.
##Unvote
##Vote: Xatalos
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May 13 2015 00:55 GMT
#1511
Just got home and for some reason Vivax ended up getting lynched over Xata or BH............ Well it seems like shenanigans happened when I was gone and HTS hammered Vivax. Also to answer Yamato there was a better case by KSC and others on Xata over BH at least in my mind but next Day Phase I can go for either a Xata or a BH lynch. Also thanks for your response and hopefully you can talk more later if someone gives you more posts.
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May 13 2015 03:31 GMT
#1533
On May 13 2015 11:13 Onegu wrote:
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On May 13 2015 11:02 GlowingBear wrote:
For what I've counted, I slightly exceeded post count.
I need people to give me posts. Just three more are okay.

I'm not putting any content in here because I don't want to be unfair and keep exceeding post count. This is just a "begging"



##Give GlowingBear 3 posts

Im not going to lynch BH, and I am kinda ok with xata...

I think the best lynch tomorrow is LS or Rsoul though... LS is still just not giving concrete reads which he does as town he is just commenting on the thread sentiment.

I did give concrete reads on rsoultin, HTS, and KSC you misrepresenting me here........
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May 13 2015 05:06 GMT
#1534
On May 13 2015 12:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 11:13 Onegu wrote:
On May 13 2015 11:02 GlowingBear wrote:
For what I've counted, I slightly exceeded post count.
I need people to give me posts. Just three more are okay.

I'm not putting any content in here because I don't want to be unfair and keep exceeding post count. This is just a "begging"



##Give GlowingBear 3 posts

Im not going to lynch BH, and I am kinda ok with xata...

I think the best lynch tomorrow is LS or Rsoul though... LS is still just not giving concrete reads which he does as town he is just commenting on the thread sentiment.

I did give concrete reads on rsoultin, HTS, and KSC you misrepresenting me here........

EBWOP: I also had a strong Town read on BM before he got shot.
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May 13 2015 15:36 GMT
#1578
Honestly I still a little stunned about Vivax getting lynched and the fact that the mods didn't see I swap my vote to Xata......... Also Marv is correct on Storm about how Rebirthoflegend actually afked his way to victory there (He had a 1 page filter for 3 day phases worth of play lol). Also I sorta like GB case but I would prefer a Xata lynch but if Xata isn't getting lynched I could switch over to Oats. Also lol at Palmar finally seeing the light that Sandroba is town like I been preaching it a little bit. Although I kinda dislike Onegu misrepresenting me on his segement on me not having concrete reads when I did (KSC, rsoultin, Sandroba, BM, Sandroba*Forgot to mention him in my post when I was quoting Onegu but I did talk a bit about Sandroba being town*) he could be town but still he was misrepresenting me................. I here anyone if you guys want to speak to me about anything.
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May 13 2015 18:15 GMT
#1609
On May 14 2015 03:08 Onegu wrote:
Ok LS is lieing he doesnt have any strong scum reads at all this game. He scum read vivax for being different than what he remembers. Then after scum reading Vivax all game he wants to switch to xata because, well Im not really sure he never really gives a good reason to...

A town LS actively looks for scum. He is not doing any of that this game.

Second read his filter he is basicly only giving town reads. And commenting on what is popular in the thread. I mean he made 3 posts on who the smurf is...

This isnt a LS town game.

@rsoul. LOL at making a novel and then putting inside of it that people wont read it because it is a novel... <3. Still think you are scum with LS this game. You should have no reason to townread him at this point.

I had a strong scumread on Vivax but then I reconsidered later because he started to look very townie and tried to switch Xata since I liked KSC's case on him and other people also thought he was scum and so I tried to change my vote to Xata but for some reason mods didn't see my vote switch at all....... I still think Xata is scum along with Oats, and BH. Again you keep misrepresenting me on my meta because I did try to look for scum as both alignments..................................................................................................................... I mean check out JOAT and Guardians when I was scum............................
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May 13 2015 18:16 GMT
#1610
##Give rsoultin 5 posts She is out of posts and would rather have her talk more since I think she is town.
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May 13 2015 18:41 GMT
#1613
On May 14 2015 03:35 Onegu wrote:
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On May 14 2015 03:15 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 14 2015 03:08 Onegu wrote:
Ok LS is lieing he doesnt have any strong scum reads at all this game. He scum read vivax for being different than what he remembers. Then after scum reading Vivax all game he wants to switch to xata because, well Im not really sure he never really gives a good reason to...

A town LS actively looks for scum. He is not doing any of that this game.

Second read his filter he is basicly only giving town reads. And commenting on what is popular in the thread. I mean he made 3 posts on who the smurf is...

This isnt a LS town game.

@rsoul. LOL at making a novel and then putting inside of it that people wont read it because it is a novel... <3. Still think you are scum with LS this game. You should have no reason to townread him at this point.

I had a strong scumread on Vivax but then I reconsidered later because he started to look very townie and tried to switch Xata since I liked KSC's case on him and other people also thought he was scum and so I tried to change my vote to Xata but for some reason mods didn't see my vote switch at all....... I still think Xata is scum along with Oats, and BH. Again you keep misrepresenting me on my meta because I did try to look for scum as both alignments..................................................................................................................... I mean check out JOAT and Guardians when I was scum............................



Ok no meta. You aren't looking for scum and making cases, you are only commenting on the thread direction. Therefore you are only trying to blend in. Therefore you are scum.


Why look if I think I found scum?
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May 13 2015 19:10 GMT
#1617
On May 14 2015 03:58 Xatalos wrote:
I think I'm about at the post limit so not gonna post much tonight. I guess I should focus more on bigger posts and reading with these restrictions instead of posting whatever I like usual.

Thanks for not lynching me yesterday. It was too bad that I had to wake up so early this morning, but life is life. In the next days I should have plenty more time and also capability to stay awake for deadlines.

I actually kind of liked BH's recent posts, especially the one where he talked about rsoultin's read changes. It matched well with my own thoughts... So I'm considering just waiting and seeing more from him for now.

Right now I'd most want to lynch LS. His attitude is just completely non-town any way I look at it. I may have to reconsider Onegu for a moment after looking at this exchange between LS and Onegu:

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On May 14 2015 03:41 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 14 2015 03:35 Onegu wrote:
On May 14 2015 03:15 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 14 2015 03:08 Onegu wrote:
Ok LS is lieing he doesnt have any strong scum reads at all this game. He scum read vivax for being different than what he remembers. Then after scum reading Vivax all game he wants to switch to xata because, well Im not really sure he never really gives a good reason to...

A town LS actively looks for scum. He is not doing any of that this game.

Second read his filter he is basicly only giving town reads. And commenting on what is popular in the thread. I mean he made 3 posts on who the smurf is...

This isnt a LS town game.

@rsoul. LOL at making a novel and then putting inside of it that people wont read it because it is a novel... <3. Still think you are scum with LS this game. You should have no reason to townread him at this point.

I had a strong scumread on Vivax but then I reconsidered later because he started to look very townie and tried to switch Xata since I liked KSC's case on him and other people also thought he was scum and so I tried to change my vote to Xata but for some reason mods didn't see my vote switch at all....... I still think Xata is scum along with Oats, and BH. Again you keep misrepresenting me on my meta because I did try to look for scum as both alignments..................................................................................................................... I mean check out JOAT and Guardians when I was scum............................



Ok no meta. You aren't looking for scum and making cases, you are only commenting on the thread direction. Therefore you are only trying to blend in. Therefore you are scum.


Why look if I think I found scum?


... It felt like Onegu was reading my mind there for a moment.

I'm also seriously considering that HtS might be scum. Just look at her overall posting style. It's way too clean and what's worse, "static". One example: I was her go-to lynch for a long time, even after I had started seriously posting for a while, but her read didn't take my many more recent posts into account at all. It didn't evolve. She just kept repeating her old case (2-3 times I think) and didn't interact with me. Ultimately, much later, her answer was something like "I don't see any change in you" when I had definitely started playing way more actively and focused (with some free time I had gained finally). At that point even Damdred and marv had somewhat changed their minds. And as for HtS... nothing? It feels like she just decided a read beforehand and sticked with it for the day.

rsoultin: I don't think flavor makes someone town. I'm sure the scumteam would be provided with fakeclaims or the game could easily be broken.

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Read my latest scum games in Jack of all Trades and Guardians and look XXX and Student VII for a quick sample of my town games.
XXX: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/479775-xxx-mini-mafia-a-night-of-debauchery-18?user=lightningstrike
Student VIII: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/483087-newbie-student-mafia-viii?user=LightningStrike
Jack of all Trades: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/476732-jack-of-all-trades-mafia?user=LightningStrike
Guardains: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/480042-tl-mafia-lxx-guardians-of-the-galaxy?user=LightningStrike
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LightningStrike
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May 13 2015 19:26 GMT
#1624
On May 14 2015 04:20 TalkingDead wrote:
A few important things. Rsoultin's large posts are really, really off. When I have more time to write up a whole thing I'll do so, but there's very little sense being made in them and she's flat out lying about a few things.

More importantly, I want to address Blazinghand's recent scumclaim here. Blazinghand is an experienced player.
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On May 14 2015 02:50 Blazinghand wrote:
...so I'm tentatively going to say I think she's (rsoultin) scum.

This is the most absolutely passive way I've ever seen BH talk about someone as scum. Blazinghand as a player and as a person is exceptionally cocky. Not confident, cocky. He is not unknown for screaming that someone's scum. He will out-talk, speak over other players, bully players, wiggle and litigate arguments, etc. just to get his point across. Blazinghand as town in no fucking way is he ever passive. Occaisionally, he will not play as town or not play as scum. But he's not a player to beat around the bush. As town, he's not going to mince his words. As town, BH will flat out call people scum; scream it from the heavens repeating and readjusting his argument just to convince people to vote with him. THIS IS NOT TOWN BH!!!! Town BH doesn't loosely be willing to agree to talk about how BH thinks a person is scum.

Second...
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On May 14 2015 02:50 Blazinghand wrote:
Hey Batsnacks, hope you're doing well. I'd like to chat with you about your (link) scumread on Sandro. As far as I can tell, this is your only scumread this game, and in fact that post represents the entirety of your contribution. That, plus the weird poem thing makes me think you've got some kind of Blue role, but nothing actually FITS you knowing Sandro is town or scum during D1. During N0 blue roles get the pm "town" so there's no actions. During D1, msot roles, especially inbestigative ones, don't have actions. For example, I could see you being a Coronor, who can "Can check the alignment and/or roles of unflipped players." according to the OP, but again, it's D1. When I was scumreading Sandro, I didn't think much of it, but since Sandro came through and actually did research about my meta, I don't really think it's possible that Sandro can be scum. He's gotta be town. So now I'm concerned about your read. What's the deal, man?'

Town!BH does not intentially try to out people during the night phase. Generally, outing blues in the night phase is pretty terrible play and BH has scolded people before for doing so. However, this type of play is one that's often seen on video mafia. There are a few potential options that BH is trying to do here:
1. BH is traitor and is trying to get mafia to consider an NK for blue snipe on Batsnacks
2. BH is mafia and is trying to setup a blue claim for his partner Batsnacks
3. BH is town and is trying to get mafia to kill lynchbait Batsnacks
Here's the thing though, BH scolded GlowingBear here for not knowing about no N0 NKs. He knows that roles didn't go out until the end of N0. So BH is in part trying to establish a blue argument on a player based on the 13th post in the game. BH is clearly not trying or thinking critically here because that argument is the dumbfuckfest central. Then he goes on to point out the Batsnacks soft claim. As town, why would BH ever point this out during the night phase? Maybe it's Batsnacks trying to take a bullet. Maybe it's actually a soft. I don't know. But there's literally no point for BH to direct the soft to the thread's attention as town. The potential loss is almost always greater than the potential gain. BH is a player who is will to take risks as any alignment, but this one is that I don't think I've ever seen him take before as town while at least once arguing against such play. So it's pretty easy to eliminate option 3. I don't care if it's 1 or 2, either way he's not town for it.

Marv made an exceptionally sexy post about BH that I want to highlight. When I was looking at BH before and after the lynch, there was at least one exceptionally interesting thing about him. BH deflects from pressure. I don't mean that he pushes it on to other people. Rather, he takes the weakest point of anyone's argument and straw mans the argument so that he looks better. Instead of ever engaging or responding to good arguments (like the one I made that yamato responds to or the extended case the Marv wrote), never once does he address them. In the early case, he engages GlowingBear's weaker argument, never responds to mine and allows thread sentiment to just shift into BillMurray in the silence. In the case of Marv's argument, he interacts with everyone else around Marv's argument. He gets into a shitflinging fest with yamato. He explains how he'll be at dinner for 23 straight hours. He never actually bothers to respond to the main points because it lends credence to the points themselves. While this avoidance is reasonable to good play to avoid being lynched, it is rather telling that BH has continued to play this way.

Building upon a point Marv had made earlier, BH clearly isn't thinking or reading critically in any sense. He tried to point out Batsnacks for being blue based on a post that batty wrote after alignments were handed out but before roles were. I ask you, do you really think that Blazinghand is the type of person or player to not think while he's playing? Does he have a tendency as town to show a pattern of not critically thinking about the game in any realistic sense? Do you not want to lynch the ever living fuck out of him?

Sexy combo of you and Marv I may now just want to lynch BH over Xata because of you two but I found your case on BH better than Marv's but you also added onto his cas on BH so it just the perfect combo regardless of Marv's alignment. Can I sheep you now Geript?
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May 13 2015 19:27 GMT
#1626
On May 14 2015 04:13 Onegu wrote:
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On May 14 2015 04:10 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 14 2015 03:58 Xatalos wrote:
I think I'm about at the post limit so not gonna post much tonight. I guess I should focus more on bigger posts and reading with these restrictions instead of posting whatever I like usual.

Thanks for not lynching me yesterday. It was too bad that I had to wake up so early this morning, but life is life. In the next days I should have plenty more time and also capability to stay awake for deadlines.

I actually kind of liked BH's recent posts, especially the one where he talked about rsoultin's read changes. It matched well with my own thoughts... So I'm considering just waiting and seeing more from him for now.

Right now I'd most want to lynch LS. His attitude is just completely non-town any way I look at it. I may have to reconsider Onegu for a moment after looking at this exchange between LS and Onegu:

On May 14 2015 03:41 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 14 2015 03:35 Onegu wrote:
On May 14 2015 03:15 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 14 2015 03:08 Onegu wrote:
Ok LS is lieing he doesnt have any strong scum reads at all this game. He scum read vivax for being different than what he remembers. Then after scum reading Vivax all game he wants to switch to xata because, well Im not really sure he never really gives a good reason to...

A town LS actively looks for scum. He is not doing any of that this game.

Second read his filter he is basicly only giving town reads. And commenting on what is popular in the thread. I mean he made 3 posts on who the smurf is...

This isnt a LS town game.

@rsoul. LOL at making a novel and then putting inside of it that people wont read it because it is a novel... <3. Still think you are scum with LS this game. You should have no reason to townread him at this point.

I had a strong scumread on Vivax but then I reconsidered later because he started to look very townie and tried to switch Xata since I liked KSC's case on him and other people also thought he was scum and so I tried to change my vote to Xata but for some reason mods didn't see my vote switch at all....... I still think Xata is scum along with Oats, and BH. Again you keep misrepresenting me on my meta because I did try to look for scum as both alignments..................................................................................................................... I mean check out JOAT and Guardians when I was scum............................



Ok no meta. You aren't looking for scum and making cases, you are only commenting on the thread direction. Therefore you are only trying to blend in. Therefore you are scum.


Why look if I think I found scum?


... It felt like Onegu was reading my mind there for a moment.

I'm also seriously considering that HtS might be scum. Just look at her overall posting style. It's way too clean and what's worse, "static". One example: I was her go-to lynch for a long time, even after I had started seriously posting for a while, but her read didn't take my many more recent posts into account at all. It didn't evolve. She just kept repeating her old case (2-3 times I think) and didn't interact with me. Ultimately, much later, her answer was something like "I don't see any change in you" when I had definitely started playing way more actively and focused (with some free time I had gained finally). At that point even Damdred and marv had somewhat changed their minds. And as for HtS... nothing? It feels like she just decided a read beforehand and sticked with it for the day.

rsoultin: I don't think flavor makes someone town. I'm sure the scumteam would be provided with fakeclaims or the game could easily be broken.

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Read my latest scum games in Jack of all Trades and Guardians and look XXX and Student VII for a quick sample of my town games.
XXX: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/479775-xxx-mini-mafia-a-night-of-debauchery-18?user=lightningstrike
Student VIII: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/483087-newbie-student-mafia-viii?user=LightningStrike
Jack of all Trades: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/476732-jack-of-all-trades-mafia?user=LightningStrike
Guardains: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/480042-tl-mafia-lxx-guardians-of-the-galaxy?user=LightningStrike


Im not using meta, you are scummy because you are doing scummy things and not making your own reads or trying to find scum...

........................................... Entertain me bro make a case if you think I scum.
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LightningStrike
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May 13 2015 19:34 GMT
#1628
On May 14 2015 04:30 rsoultin wrote:
82/84

-facedesks-

I give up I'm just gonna go back to my regular play lol ><

-dances on a table-

bats is town! bh is dumb! (and when you see how dumb you are i will lolololol)

gb is town! bh is dumb!

bh is dumb or scum!

talkingdead, of course my giant posts look different xP that's the point. i never post that way lol ><

i am town! you all are dumb!

and bh admits to wanting to lynch a tooooownie just because he doesn't like how she plaaaaaays

-dances on the table some more-

(legitimately, td, if i've got facts wrong you should bring it up...i did filter dive but a lot of that is from memory :/)

I gave 5 posts and called you town though so I not dumb?
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LightningStrike
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May 13 2015 21:13 GMT
#1641
On May 14 2015 05:57 Damdred wrote:
Sorry been afk had a hell of a day. Should cat h up and be productive shortly

When you are caught up can I have your reads please?
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LightningStrike
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May 13 2015 21:14 GMT
#1642
On May 14 2015 06:00 yamato77 wrote:
sandro
rso

ksc
trfel
LS
geript/td
marv?

HtS?
damdred?
GB?
JAT?
Xatalos?
Obi?
VE
RoL
Stutters
batsnacks
Oats
Onegu
Palmar
BH


Can you explain your reads please?
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LightningStrike
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May 13 2015 21:52 GMT
#1649
On May 14 2015 06:49 sandroba wrote:
So HTS and LS, when is it ok to start considering lynching stutters?

When we figure out he's mafia.
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LightningStrike
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May 14 2015 02:24 GMT
#1752
Just got back from Pokemon and Palmar flipped scum and Stutters claim the shot :O Also judging the fact that we had 3 kp 1 from Vig Stutters and the rest seems to be scum since scum got a assassin. Also HTS had a question:
On May 14 2015 08:41 Half the Sky wrote:
60/65
3 from Bats, 2 from Onegu

I'm back, gonna cram as much stuff I can in the last half hour here....

Bats

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On May 14 2015 02:16 batsnacks wrote:
@HTS Are you scum reading me y/n?


I wasn't clear on why you were voting Sandroba. I'm not clear on where you stand now. You'd probably be in all honesty a slight scumlean at this point.

I wasn't even scumreading you (Sandroba was) the first time you asked this and you seemed worried I was going to push your lynch.

This go, I just did a voting analysis even though I had stronger reads on other people for other reasons. I get a paranoia feeling from you, I don't recall you asking questions like this before.

Kelsier I had some questions to TD - what do you think of TD's answers? It's a few posts after my post on Stutters.

As an aside, I'm getting more irritated with LS's posting. He's not coherent but that's not my problem with him. He's not particularly being helpful either even with the use of meta. I know he throws meta links and he's been criticised for that before as town, but the one distinct thing I'm noticing as this thread grows is that LS will post mainly after he's called out. I've noticed that 2-3 times. From what I'm reading, he's sheeping his town reads, but I am having difficulty discerning from a scum who is sheeping a wrong read. Tone wise, I townread him in his scumgames, so I am ignoring that. The main scum tell for him is not posting as much.

LS, do you have any stances on anyone new besides those you have mentioned?

Stutters as town since he's the unCCed Vig but nothing else I prob should prob VE to figure him out better. Also where is your 20 questions?
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LightningStrike
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May 14 2015 13:41 GMT
#1829
You know fuck it I was hiding my role but I am the Martyr I was protecting GlowingBear incase he was targeted by KP because I thought he would get shot was thinking of protect him or Sandroba but I felt like GlowingBear was the better shot for scum since he can push hard for lynches from my experience playing with him. Also I wasn't here at End of Day 1 at deadline I even admitted it here:
On May 13 2015 09:55 LightningStrike wrote:
Just got home and for some reason Vivax ended up getting lynched over Xata or BH............ Well it seems like shenanigans happened when I was gone and HTS hammered Vivax. Also to answer Yamato there was a better case by KSC and others on Xata over BH at least in my mind but next Day Phase I can go for either a Xata or a BH lynch. Also thanks for your response and hopefully you can talk more later if someone gives you more posts.

I didn't expect Vivax to get lynched my vote was on someone who I thought a wagon would happen on (Xata).
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LightningStrike
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May 14 2015 13:47 GMT
#1832
On May 14 2015 22:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On May 13 2015 09:00 Hapahauli wrote:
Final Day 1 Vote Count:


Vivax (8) - BlazingHand, Marvellosity, Xatalos, Half The Sky, KelsierSC, TalkingDead, Justanothertownie, Oatsmaster,
Xatalos (2) - Vivax, LightningStrike
Rsoultin (1) - Onegu
Palmar (1) - RebirthOfLegend
Sandroba (2) - Palmar, Batsnacks
BlazingHand (7) - rsoultin, Sandroba, Yamato77, ObiWanShinobi, Damdred, Trfel, GlowingBear,

Just for informational purposes.

Hello VE thoughts so far on everyone?
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May 14 2015 13:54 GMT
#1835
On May 14 2015 22:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On May 13 2015 23:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
TOWN
21. VisceraEyes
1. marvellosity
3. GlowingBear
4. Trfel
5. sandroba
6. Half the Sky
8. yamato77
11. rsoultin
18. KelsierSC
19. TalkingDead
14. Blazinghand
17. Damdred
23. Vivax
24. Stutters695

MAFIA
2. Onegu
7. Xatalos
9. batsnacks
12. Oatsmaster
15. RebirthOfLeGenD
20. Palmar

IDONTKNOW
10. ObiWanShinobi
13. LightningStrike
16. Bill Murray
22. justanothertownie

This is where I'm at currently. As for my mafia list, Onegu and Xata are pretty much either/or...if one of them is mafia, the other probably is not. They've both done things I would classify as scummy, but Xata was going on and on about Onegu being the Traitor and voted for him (uselessy) D1. I...don't think they do that as mafia/mafia.

Batsnacks is pretty straight-forward. I mentioned earlier how he came into the game early on spouting nonsense, and then when he came back he pretended to have contributions (Sandroba is mafia, but I can't tell you why because ROOOOLLEEEE).

Oatsmaster is more of a tone read. As town I feel like Oats gives fewer fucks what people say and think, and in this game he seems to care a great deal what people think.

RoL is probably mafia because of his repeated promises to contribute and then lack of following through. I think he does this as either alignment, but as town he actually has content in his few bouts of activity. This game we get ZERO content. It reminds me very much of his play in Storm, where he was AFK mafia.

Palmar is just fun to lynch, but I also think he's probably mafia here too. His case on sandroba is laughably bad (in that it ignores the fact that sandroba is capable of everything Palmar is accusing him of as town, and meta-wise sandroba is like never mafia this game) and his responses to people calling it bad are bad (marv is mafia?!?!?!).

Everyone on my town list is there because they're active in the game and seem to be obviously trying to figure it out. My order isn't important (I think most of it is in order of the playerlist) but I moved myself to the top for obvious reasons.

If you're in my IDONTKNOW list then you should probably do something about that before tomorrow.

I still wanna follow my lynch list to a degree. Aside from some of my I-Don't-Knows being moved up to town, not much has changed for me based on both what's been said AND the general state of the game.

Just wanted to see if any progressed for your reads since EoN that was all.
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LightningStrike
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May 14 2015 14:29 GMT
#1864
On May 14 2015 23:26 Xatalos wrote:
LOL what...

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On May 14 2015 22:41 LightningStrike wrote:
You know fuck it I was hiding my role but I am the Martyr I was protecting GlowingBear incase he was targeted by KP because I thought he would get shot was thinking of protect him or Sandroba but I felt like GlowingBear was the better shot for scum since he can push hard for lynches from my experience playing with him. Also I wasn't here at End of Day 1 at deadline I even admitted it here:
On May 13 2015 09:55 LightningStrike wrote:
Just got home and for some reason Vivax ended up getting lynched over Xata or BH............ Well it seems like shenanigans happened when I was gone and HTS hammered Vivax. Also to answer Yamato there was a better case by KSC and others on Xata over BH at least in my mind but next Day Phase I can go for either a Xata or a BH lynch. Also thanks for your response and hopefully you can talk more later if someone gives you more posts.

I didn't expect Vivax to get lynched my vote was on someone who I thought a wagon would happen on (Xata).


What's a Martyr even? And why did you claim now?

I protect 1 person every night if they get targeted by KP I take the kp instead. I just tired of people thinking I am scum based on BH being town.......
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LightningStrike
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May 14 2015 14:35 GMT
#1868
On May 14 2015 23:30 Xatalos wrote:
That's not why I've thought of you as scum at all though :/

That was mainly at GlowingBear.
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May 14 2015 16:45 GMT
#1959
WTF JAT why you shot rsoultin Also Nukes don't always hit as far I know.
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LightningStrike
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May 14 2015 17:39 GMT
#1981
On May 15 2015 02:23 Onegu wrote:
Not lynching JaT. He had the guts to do what I couldn't. Should shoot LS next.

Marv like really town. Even though he is still scum reading me. Doubt he is just like Im mason recuiter as scum and giving out his entire scum team as he isnt mason...


Ugh dude did you not see my Martyr claim? I protect 1 person every night and if the person gets hit by KP I take the kp instead.
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May 14 2015 18:17 GMT
#2018
On May 15 2015 03:14 yamato77 wrote:
Stop fucking listening to JAT.

He's dead scum, literally useless to the thread.

HTS, comment on the fucking Onegu lynch I'm leading or you're next.

Why you think HTS is scum if she doesn't comment on your Onegu lynch? Can you also show me the case on Onegu being scum please?
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May 14 2015 18:36 GMT
#2033
On May 15 2015 03:21 yamato77 wrote:
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On May 15 2015 03:17 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 15 2015 03:14 yamato77 wrote:
Stop fucking listening to JAT.

He's dead scum, literally useless to the thread.

HTS, comment on the fucking Onegu lynch I'm leading or you're next.

Why you think HTS is scum if she doesn't comment on your Onegu lynch? Can you also show me the case on Onegu being scum please?

Do you think he's town?

If not, just fucking sheep me and be quiet.

I don't blindly sheep people though
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May 14 2015 18:40 GMT
#2038
Yamato if Onegu flips town who you think would be scum and why?
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May 14 2015 20:37 GMT
#2065
Okay I going to vote Onegu he knows I don't claim a power role as scum since I only had claimed VT as scum in all my games as scum and the fact he's ignoring that and the fact he haven't looked into other people clearly he trying to mislynch me and I think he's mafia for this.
##Vote: Onegu
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May 14 2015 20:39 GMT
#2066
On May 15 2015 05:16 marvellosity wrote:
I think if there's anything to take from Palmar's filter, it's that he spewed LS as town

He spewed me as town yes and he did it too in Titanic he always spew my alignment when he's scum.
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May 14 2015 20:42 GMT
#2067
On May 15 2015 05:36 Half the Sky wrote:
20/60

EBWOP - "Marv, scum Palmar has WIFOMed people of both alignments as being both alignments...."

Sidenote for Yamato - I won't speak for LS, but I am not experience with either your or sandroba's town games. At all. Not everyone refuses to play as scum and I learnt the hard way just now with Vivax changing his meta the way he has (still I think that's lol, but I digress). Point is, to be blunt for a player unfamiliar with your play to an extent, no you were not "blatantly town" certainly not at the end of D1, let alone a top town pick and sandroba didn't really clear up for me until close to the end of N1.

I incorrectly read him D1, blame that on inexperience on my end, and as for you, I'm not really familiar with your style of posting.

Even if I gave sandroba my power, he wouldn't have gotten it if killed (night actions out of my control), or if another one of my town picks were higher than him on the playerlist had he have lived (I explained all that in my claim post) that person would have gotten it. And upon inquiry (never encountered my role before) I unfortunately could not put myself on that list either.

Just saying.

I need to AFK for a few hours but I'll be back.

Honestly I felt like GlowingBear is the type of guy that can drive a lynch while Sandroba doesn't seem that type of person which is why I went on GlowingBear. I had only seem a glimpse of his town but in Student VII but that was it(I was coaching students that game and was more focused on my students there).
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LightningStrike
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May 14 2015 20:45 GMT
#2070
On May 15 2015 05:42 Onegu wrote:
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On May 15 2015 05:37 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay I going to vote Onegu he knows I don't claim a power role as scum since I only had claimed VT as scum in all my games as scum and the fact he's ignoring that and the fact he haven't looked into other people clearly he trying to mislynch me and I think he's mafia for this.
##Vote: Onegu



We are in a themed game... I doubt you are going to claim VT here as scum. Like why did you claim? Me and rsoul just went over this with you on how bad it is. So why the hell would you claim that as town now?

I was tired of people thinking I was scum if BH is town (GlowingBear) and Xata was still scum reading me and you too and besides my role is kinda meh and we already got VT's in this game.
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May 14 2015 21:45 GMT
#2116
On May 15 2015 06:36 TalkingDead wrote:
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On May 15 2015 06:25 Half the Sky wrote:
On May 15 2015 06:17 TalkingDead wrote:
I think I missed some of this a bit earlier. I think I'd rather give Batsnacks a pass than RoL. Both Batsnacks and Palmer voting together on Sandroba as mafia is really, really unlikely. RoL has basically done nothing this game yet is magically right on Palmer; that feels far more bussy to me than not. Onegu and LS aren't bad targets based on them both being smart enough to not throw away their votes. That said, Stutters/Kelsier/Oats/OWS/Trfel/Xatalos are the next people I'd look at.

My reserve on Xatalos (having re-filtered him yet) is that the way things look, no mafia were up for the D1 lynch and rather mafia could just freely organize wherever semi-naturally without having to fear about losing one of their own.


Stutters is an uncounterclaimed vig who claimed the shot on scum Palmar. Do you have adequate reason to think he shot his own scumbuddy?

Xatalos was already day-vigged by VE.

Right forgot about Xat.

Re: Stutters. It's mostly setup speculation based around the number of confirmed KP powers. HTS I think is really towny. Yamato and VE are really towny. Damdred is dead. BM is ??? Of the blue claims, I think Stutters and LS are the most likely to not be town. Granted, Stutters is essentially excluded from being mafia under normal circumstances (unless Sandroba shot Palmer which doesn't seem likely); so the reason why I think Stutters is moreso because it's a huge amount of town KP and a night kill is far more in line with 3 party role. I kinda think BM might have just been town and awful; it's not outside of his playbook and it would be rather odd for mafia to have nukes when town can just auto-shoot them down. It's like useless extra KP.

Plus, I find it rather odd that there would be no investigative role OR medic role in the setup. Coroner seems like a natural fit in this setup; or at worst parity cop. But having any of those three in addition to the amount of town KP seems heavily town favored despite the partial flips considering we're told only 5 mafia. If we assume every KP role so far is town, then town has more KP than mafia has members. That's rather excessive and (while yamato pointed out that Ver's game tend to have more KP) I think Hapa would've commented on or changed things.

You realized that a Martyr is actually a town role not scum?
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May 14 2015 21:48 GMT
#2118
On May 15 2015 06:46 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 12 2015 23:41 marvellosity wrote:
On May 12 2015 23:32 sandroba wrote:
On May 12 2015 23:25 Palmar wrote:
On May 12 2015 23:19 sandroba wrote:
On May 12 2015 23:09 Palmar wrote:
you're right that was a bit dick-ish, sorry LS

But the point stands. Sandroba not posting as mafia in one game does not mean he cannot post in another, and because of the filter limitations it's not exactly hard to post 3 pages of stuff in one game.

Same with RoL. He's lazy and shit as either alignment. But he did jump a dumb remark from me (apparently a lot of people here are literally sheldon).

Like maybe I'm just wrong and bad about sandroba, projecting my own personality on him too much but he's now done two things this game where I just think "If I was towndroba in this situation I'd have reacted completely differently". Aside from my initial point about how him saying he'd keep an eye on marv was basically a pointless sentence that doesn't fit in (If he doesn't say that, can we then assume he's not keeping an eye on marv? Isn't the default position in all mafia games to always keep an eye on everyone?), there is more too.

1). Sandroba's reaction to me calling him scum.

On May 11 2015 23:30 sandroba wrote:
On May 11 2015 23:24 Palmar wrote:
Every time I say something really dumb the thread dies.

fixed it for you.

I wouldn't mind killing jat either.


Dismissal. He doesn't defend against my point and he doesn't try to use it to pry into my own alignment. He just outright dismisses my stuff, only to come back later and say:

On May 12 2015 19:55 sandroba wrote:
On May 12 2015 19:49 Palmar wrote:
On May 12 2015 19:49 sandroba wrote:
On May 12 2015 19:47 Palmar wrote:
I don't really think BM is mafia but I haven't read too much up on the game.

Any time frame we should expect the reading to start? I enjoy playing games with you, but not when I can't actually discuss important points with you and get your input.

You're mafia so why do you care?

If you believe so, I want you to tell me why that is. I can't tell if you are trolling/tunneling aimlessly or you actually believe what you are saying.


Which implies he doesn't know why I think he's mafia, when I had already explained it then.

Also

2). His reaction to the BM pardon.

Sandroba literally just made this case on BM:
On May 12 2015 19:34 sandroba wrote:
I think we do need to lynch BM today. The bullshit level in his posts is a lot higher than anything I've seen from him. It is still possible that he is town and using a large quantity of drugs but that I cannot account for, and unless someone can confirm him town so he can be safely ignored we will need to deal with him at some point and I would prefer if it was today. One example of the BS he is pushing that I think points to him clearly lying on purpose and not being on drugs is this post:
On May 12 2015 16:22 Bill Murray wrote:
On May 11 2015 10:06 Trfel wrote:
Hello.

I'll get to this game in a few hours at the latest. I am sorry for my absence today, I'll be better during the week than on weekends.

The purpose of this post is to ensure that I comply with the "one post every 24 hours" rule. Meanwhile, enjoy some music.


So Trfel makes excuses
"ill be absent"
"this post it so ensure that i comply with the one post every 24 hours rule" then he posts a video... cool. really beneficial
before this all he had done was harass people

Then I nuke him for behaving like this, which didnt fit how he played last game as town

WITHIN AN HOUR of him "fulfilling his daily post on mothers day", he posts:
On May 11 2015 14:05 Trfel wrote:
You're kidding me.

You nuked me for low activity on a weekend, and Mothers' Day?

I really hope you are not town here, because you being town would really kill my motivation to play this game. I mean, if you're going to give the majority of your posts for the first 24 hours away, you really shouldn't be killing me for not playing in a 24 hour period.


And not only that, but he wants to misrepresent what happened
He instead attacks me NOT for me nuking him, but wants to lie and come up with some bullshit excuse to basically omgus me

1) he tries to nuke me in return
that doesnt work
2) he votes me
3) he then proceeded to ask me if i have any more nukes after unvoting
4) he finds out i have no more nukes
5) he votes me again

this guy isnt enjoyable to play with, and his behavior is self serving and scummy as fuck

He is clearly nit picking and ignoring parts of trfel post. trfel states that he is going to be back in a few hours to this game but BM does not bold that part and bolds parts that change the meaning of the post. Also he flat out lies about the time elapsed between the 2 posts, which was 4 hours, not one, in accordance to the part BM chose to overlook in his first post.
Conclusion is I think he is doing it on purpose and is mafia for it.
##vote: BM


And his primary scumread gets pardoned.

This is fucking sandroba people. Not some random scrub who doesn't know jack shit about the game. Again, I may be projecting my own personality but I'd be so mad at this.

Think how I would've reacted if anyone would've pardoned GB in mini mafia mini thing or someone had pardoned WoS in noir 3. I was mad enough with people just not listening to me. But someone actively shutting me down? Fuck that.

I don't think sandroba cares, I think he didn't defend my case and instead chose to dismiss it and I think my initial point was very good.

We should lynch sandroba.


Palmar is scum. This post is the biggest BS in this thread besides bill murray. You are not projecting anything, you know how I play and "sandroba isn't defend against my case" is completely dumb since you posted something retarded that I dismissed as troll. You aren't reading anything, you are trying to force this read and haven't given any insight on any of the suspicious people that are being discussed. We should lynch palmar.


Dismissal count: 2

Go on

And yes, I told you didn't think BM is mafia and I still don't think he is. There is no reason at all for him to antagonize a ton of potentially strong townies and to use nukes randomly as mafia. I loved Gb's pardon and I also had already given a semi-tone read on him.

I've talked about rol and I've talked about you. I've hinted I think VE is town.

So yes, I have given plenty of insight.



So you are saying I'm mafia because
1: I said i would keep my eye on marv (????)
2: I didn't rage at GB who I think is town. (????)
Which is completely retarded and doesn't make anyone mafia in any world.
Despite my current level of activity and the content which I'm posting which I abosolutely never do as mafia because simply I can't keep up. Knowing who the scum team is simply crushes my interest and I have to try really hard to even pretend I have a scum read and I'm a lot more sucint and direct about my reads which I can't justify.
You've talked about RoL who I'll give a prise to anyone who can guess his alignment at this point with a good margin of success. You've said you think VE is town, but didn't say why. You haven't talked about Xatalos and Vivax at all which are the main people being discussed. You simply ignored what I've pointed out about BM and read him town randomly. Palmar isn't this bad. He is mafia.

I'm not sure I get the rationale of a mafia-Palmar honing in on a target with the history that you have with each other. Palmar's played plenty of games with you (probably only more with me + VE) and realistically if he wanted to choose a prominent player to target, he should have chosen me, because he loves to scumread me no matter my alignment. Instead he chose you, when (if i'm wrong, correct me) you have quite a good history of trying to read each other.

I like to think I am pretty good at reading Palmar normally and he can easily get into stupid dumb tunnels as town

in the situation of sandroba-town and palmar-mafia, gunning for you seems like a kinda suicidal play with no upsides for him, so i think this can be town-town


Are you sure?

That was made a few irl days ago so ofc we now know it was Town on Scum there between Sandroba and Palmar.
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May 14 2015 21:57 GMT
#2121
On May 15 2015 06:55 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 15 2015 06:48 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 15 2015 06:46 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 12 2015 23:41 marvellosity wrote:
On May 12 2015 23:32 sandroba wrote:
On May 12 2015 23:25 Palmar wrote:
On May 12 2015 23:19 sandroba wrote:
On May 12 2015 23:09 Palmar wrote:
you're right that was a bit dick-ish, sorry LS

But the point stands. Sandroba not posting as mafia in one game does not mean he cannot post in another, and because of the filter limitations it's not exactly hard to post 3 pages of stuff in one game.

Same with RoL. He's lazy and shit as either alignment. But he did jump a dumb remark from me (apparently a lot of people here are literally sheldon).

Like maybe I'm just wrong and bad about sandroba, projecting my own personality on him too much but he's now done two things this game where I just think "If I was towndroba in this situation I'd have reacted completely differently". Aside from my initial point about how him saying he'd keep an eye on marv was basically a pointless sentence that doesn't fit in (If he doesn't say that, can we then assume he's not keeping an eye on marv? Isn't the default position in all mafia games to always keep an eye on everyone?), there is more too.

1). Sandroba's reaction to me calling him scum.

On May 11 2015 23:30 sandroba wrote:
On May 11 2015 23:24 Palmar wrote:
Every time I say something really dumb the thread dies.

fixed it for you.

I wouldn't mind killing jat either.


Dismissal. He doesn't defend against my point and he doesn't try to use it to pry into my own alignment. He just outright dismisses my stuff, only to come back later and say:

On May 12 2015 19:55 sandroba wrote:
On May 12 2015 19:49 Palmar wrote:
[quote]
You're mafia so why do you care?

If you believe so, I want you to tell me why that is. I can't tell if you are trolling/tunneling aimlessly or you actually believe what you are saying.


Which implies he doesn't know why I think he's mafia, when I had already explained it then.

Also

2). His reaction to the BM pardon.

Sandroba literally just made this case on BM:
On May 12 2015 19:34 sandroba wrote:
I think we do need to lynch BM today. The bullshit level in his posts is a lot higher than anything I've seen from him. It is still possible that he is town and using a large quantity of drugs but that I cannot account for, and unless someone can confirm him town so he can be safely ignored we will need to deal with him at some point and I would prefer if it was today. One example of the BS he is pushing that I think points to him clearly lying on purpose and not being on drugs is this post:
On May 12 2015 16:22 Bill Murray wrote:
[quote]

So Trfel makes excuses
"ill be absent"
"this post it so ensure that i comply with the one post every 24 hours rule" then he posts a video... cool. really beneficial
before this all he had done was harass people

Then I nuke him for behaving like this, which didnt fit how he played last game as town

WITHIN AN HOUR of him "fulfilling his daily post on mothers day", he posts:
[quote]

And not only that, but he wants to misrepresent what happened
He instead attacks me NOT for me nuking him, but wants to lie and come up with some bullshit excuse to basically omgus me

1) he tries to nuke me in return
that doesnt work
2) he votes me
3) he then proceeded to ask me if i have any more nukes after unvoting
4) he finds out i have no more nukes
5) he votes me again

this guy isnt enjoyable to play with, and his behavior is self serving and scummy as fuck

He is clearly nit picking and ignoring parts of trfel post. trfel states that he is going to be back in a few hours to this game but BM does not bold that part and bolds parts that change the meaning of the post. Also he flat out lies about the time elapsed between the 2 posts, which was 4 hours, not one, in accordance to the part BM chose to overlook in his first post.
Conclusion is I think he is doing it on purpose and is mafia for it.
##vote: BM


And his primary scumread gets pardoned.

This is fucking sandroba people. Not some random scrub who doesn't know jack shit about the game. Again, I may be projecting my own personality but I'd be so mad at this.

Think how I would've reacted if anyone would've pardoned GB in mini mafia mini thing or someone had pardoned WoS in noir 3. I was mad enough with people just not listening to me. But someone actively shutting me down? Fuck that.

I don't think sandroba cares, I think he didn't defend my case and instead chose to dismiss it and I think my initial point was very good.

We should lynch sandroba.


Palmar is scum. This post is the biggest BS in this thread besides bill murray. You are not projecting anything, you know how I play and "sandroba isn't defend against my case" is completely dumb since you posted something retarded that I dismissed as troll. You aren't reading anything, you are trying to force this read and haven't given any insight on any of the suspicious people that are being discussed. We should lynch palmar.


Dismissal count: 2

Go on

And yes, I told you didn't think BM is mafia and I still don't think he is. There is no reason at all for him to antagonize a ton of potentially strong townies and to use nukes randomly as mafia. I loved Gb's pardon and I also had already given a semi-tone read on him.

I've talked about rol and I've talked about you. I've hinted I think VE is town.

So yes, I have given plenty of insight.



So you are saying I'm mafia because
1: I said i would keep my eye on marv (????)
2: I didn't rage at GB who I think is town. (????)
Which is completely retarded and doesn't make anyone mafia in any world.
Despite my current level of activity and the content which I'm posting which I abosolutely never do as mafia because simply I can't keep up. Knowing who the scum team is simply crushes my interest and I have to try really hard to even pretend I have a scum read and I'm a lot more sucint and direct about my reads which I can't justify.
You've talked about RoL who I'll give a prise to anyone who can guess his alignment at this point with a good margin of success. You've said you think VE is town, but didn't say why. You haven't talked about Xatalos and Vivax at all which are the main people being discussed. You simply ignored what I've pointed out about BM and read him town randomly. Palmar isn't this bad. He is mafia.

I'm not sure I get the rationale of a mafia-Palmar honing in on a target with the history that you have with each other. Palmar's played plenty of games with you (probably only more with me + VE) and realistically if he wanted to choose a prominent player to target, he should have chosen me, because he loves to scumread me no matter my alignment. Instead he chose you, when (if i'm wrong, correct me) you have quite a good history of trying to read each other.

I like to think I am pretty good at reading Palmar normally and he can easily get into stupid dumb tunnels as town

in the situation of sandroba-town and palmar-mafia, gunning for you seems like a kinda suicidal play with no upsides for him, so i think this can be town-town


Are you sure?

That was made a few irl days ago so ofc we now know it was Town on Scum there between Sandroba and Palmar.


LS, you don't get it.

Marv makes a mason qt with both palmar and VE. He doesn't trust these guys to tell them he was RECRUITED in another qt, but he trusts Damdred, Yamato AND TD (which he trusts is another town mason) to say he IS a POWER ROLE???

Then he ASKS to let Sandroba being added to his qt, and Sandroba is dead at night, and rsoultin is shot at the exact moment she starts suspecting marv and VE

Like, come on.

Are you suggesting that Marv and VE are scum together and killed rsoultin because of it?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
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May 14 2015 21:57 GMT
#2122
Also just noticed I had hit 6k posts on Teamliquid lol.
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LightningStrike
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May 14 2015 23:43 GMT
#2137
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Town just lost in Ippo and it was a game where I was heavily scumread early on and played like shit early on too if anyone wants my filter from that game here it is: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/482487-hajime-no-ippo-maifa?user=LightningStrike
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May 15 2015 12:49 GMT
#2180
On May 15 2015 13:54 Onegu wrote:
But serious I dont know how you can dismiss my LS read when I was one of the people who talked to him about it with rsoul. If we didnt just talk to him and tell him it was bad then I would be saying anything but we did, he knows its bad to claim like that as town. He is trying to look like his town meta.

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You don't even consider the fact I'm town. Your tunnel is even worse than my tunnel on Stutters in Ippo...............
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May 15 2015 14:38 GMT
#2183
On May 15 2015 23:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
Morning ladies.

Why hasn't the thread run away with itself yet? I was expecting to have to catch up...

Why you called everyone a lady when there is only 1 left? Also because the spamiest posters are kinda dead O_o
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May 15 2015 19:56 GMT
#2241
If you guys want my flavor name it's Tiberius Gracchus ;D
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May 15 2015 20:06 GMT
#2244
On May 16 2015 05:04 Stutters695 wrote:
Anyway, I'm not 100% on Onegu. I would lynch him off of his filter, but the almost complete lack of resistance bothers me.

Well in Ippo we had little reistance in all our mafia lynches after Day 1 lol.
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May 15 2015 20:21 GMT
#2246
On May 16 2015 05:17 Onegu wrote:
Im resisting you are all cray cray to lynch me. LS is the correct lynch.

Also why is yamato town?

I town deal with it
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May 15 2015 22:35 GMT
#2276
On May 16 2015 07:32 Onegu wrote:
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On May 16 2015 07:14 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm torn between Onegu, Oats and Obi.

my read on oats I am not particularly confident in, it was mainly based on his sniping of me around EOD and his voting of me and rudeness.

with obi I think he's mafia but some other people think he's town, I don't really feel confident on this.

With onegu he hasn't offered anything memorable to the game and has a minimal contribution, I liked the case that HtS brought up against him and I think that the vote EOD looks poor for him as he was deliberately not on either of the two town wagons , like palmar.
Another more long term reason is that it will give me more information about obi and the state of the game right now, if onegu is mafia it probably means we have hit more mafia due to his lack of resistance to the lynch and his apparent low morale.

##vote onegu



What HtS case. Go to her filter she never actually calls me mafia. She says she cant read me and doesn't like the meta on LS claim. Like she says she has been on him since Horn for his meta points he always brings up. That is in game. Me and rsoul had a very long conversation in Team Speak with him about this and why its bad and he shouldnt do it as town. HtS just says I am a ok or fine lynch.

Second LS never mentions about my point about him. He just says he has never claimed as mafia, sidenote HtS just said this also. That makes no difference as this is a themed game and scum most likely got fake claims which make it much easier to fake claim. Also the role he claimed is really easy to fake claim. Its not like he is claiming dreamweaver or janitor.

Like the best scum point on me has been I am lazy this game. I havent been lazy I just dont have many reads. Im also sad I rolled VT in a themed game...

But anyway Im VT not Scum or traitor. After I flip you fools need to take a big look at LS because my read isnt wrong.

Like as town when he gets tunneled he like rage quits which he hasnt done here. Second he still doesnt have any scum reads other than me. Which is the current easy mislynch.

If the only reason you are town reading him is because of his claim. Get the fuck off of it. Its a terrible reason to town read him at this point.

Also why are you against me for throwing my vote away. Its so meh.

##Vote LS

Oh Onegu I prob will flip at the same time assuming the assassin can use his power during the day phase. Anyways your read on me is bad since I'm Town not scum (Although my play been meh I will pick it up once Onegu gets lynched if the Mafia Assassin can't use his power during the day).
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May 15 2015 22:37 GMT
#2278
On May 16 2015 07:35 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2015 07:32 Onegu wrote:
On May 16 2015 07:14 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm torn between Onegu, Oats and Obi.

my read on oats I am not particularly confident in, it was mainly based on his sniping of me around EOD and his voting of me and rudeness.

with obi I think he's mafia but some other people think he's town, I don't really feel confident on this.

With onegu he hasn't offered anything memorable to the game and has a minimal contribution, I liked the case that HtS brought up against him and I think that the vote EOD looks poor for him as he was deliberately not on either of the two town wagons , like palmar.
Another more long term reason is that it will give me more information about obi and the state of the game right now, if onegu is mafia it probably means we have hit more mafia due to his lack of resistance to the lynch and his apparent low morale.

##vote onegu



What HtS case. Go to her filter she never actually calls me mafia. She says she cant read me and doesn't like the meta on LS claim. Like she says she has been on him since Horn for his meta points he always brings up. That is in game. Me and rsoul had a very long conversation in Team Speak with him about this and why its bad and he shouldnt do it as town. HtS just says I am a ok or fine lynch.

Second LS never mentions about my point about him. He just says he has never claimed as mafia, sidenote HtS just said this also. That makes no difference as this is a themed game and scum most likely got fake claims which make it much easier to fake claim. Also the role he claimed is really easy to fake claim. Its not like he is claiming dreamweaver or janitor.

Like the best scum point on me has been I am lazy this game. I havent been lazy I just dont have many reads. Im also sad I rolled VT in a themed game...

But anyway Im VT not Scum or traitor. After I flip you fools need to take a big look at LS because my read isnt wrong.

Like as town when he gets tunneled he like rage quits which he hasnt done here. Second he still doesnt have any scum reads other than me. Which is the current easy mislynch.

If the only reason you are town reading him is because of his claim. Get the fuck off of it. Its a terrible reason to town read him at this point.

Also why are you against me for throwing my vote away. Its so meh.

##Vote LS

Oh Onegu I prob will flip at the same time assuming the assassin can use his power during the day phase. Anyways your read on me is bad since I'm Town not scum (Although my play been meh I will pick it up once Onegu gets lynched if the Mafia Assassin can't use his power during the day).

Also HTS did make a 2 post thing about why you're scum too.
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May 15 2015 22:38 GMT
#2279
On May 16 2015 07:37 batsnacks wrote:
LS I think you've played with Onegu before. Can you give me a meta read on Onegu?

Mafia or horrible town can't tell which because his play isn't that good regardless of his alignment from my experience with playing with him.
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May 15 2015 22:40 GMT
#2281
##Give 10 Posts to KelsierSC use them well KSC.
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LightningStrike
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May 15 2015 22:54 GMT
#2285
This pretty much sums up me vs Onegu:
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LightningStrike
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May 15 2015 23:09 GMT
#2288
On May 16 2015 08:06 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2015 08:01 GlowingBear wrote:
Do as you guys please.

Why don't you SHOOT ME INSTEAD STUTTERS?

Because with your boner on me being traitor, I almost feel you might actually be that. And I don't know if shooting a traitor flips me.

I'm only half serious about lynching you, but stop shitting up the thread for real. You're spamming about a lynch that isn't going to happen on a completely flawed premise. It's getting old.

To soon to face someone tunneling you like I did to you in Ippo?
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LightningStrike
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May 15 2015 23:14 GMT
#2290
On May 16 2015 08:10 GlowingBear wrote:
I've already gave up.

Onegu is an obvious mislynch and nobody is doing anything

So whatever.

See you guys later

How is Onegu a obvious mislynch?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
May 16 2015 02:20 GMT
#2316
Wow Onegu was just a tunneling town...............................................
At least the JAT was scum as it kinda confirmed a little bit what I thought of him earlier about him being a little bit of a bully as scum. Okay since Onegu had flipped I will work even better now that the weight on my shoulders are gone for now.
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LightningStrike
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May 16 2015 02:23 GMT
#2318
On May 16 2015 11:22 GlowingBear wrote:
God I should have shot JAT.

Obvious town Onegu was obvious.

How was he obvious town?
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LightningStrike
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United States14276 Posts
May 16 2015 03:07 GMT
#2331
On May 16 2015 11:26 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2015 11:23 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 16 2015 11:22 GlowingBear wrote:
God I should have shot JAT.

Obvious town Onegu was obvious.

How was he obvious town?


The way his wagon went on confirmed him as town. His play was also suicidal for a Mafia.

It's a shame town isn't playing and I don't have the same persuasion skills as holyflare

Well I'm town and now ready to play now that a person who was tunneling me is gone can you give me a run down on who you want to lynch the cases on them being scum please?
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LightningStrike
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May 16 2015 03:09 GMT
#2333
On May 16 2015 12:07 GlowingBear wrote:
Nope.

We lynch marv and only marv

Unless town doesn't lynch marv

But I am voting no one else tomorrow in case I live. Which I hope I don't

Okay can you tell me why Marv is scum and not TD when both of them claim Mason Recruiters?
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LightningStrike
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May 16 2015 03:15 GMT
#2336
On May 16 2015 12:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
Glowing bear is ignoring all the claims.

Also ls, it's basically impossible that both of them are scum.

I know it's like impossible that both are scum that why I asking him why Marv over TD.
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May 16 2015 03:52 GMT
#2346
On May 16 2015 12:19 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2015 12:15 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 16 2015 12:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
Glowing bear is ignoring all the claims.

Also ls, it's basically impossible that both of them are scum.

I know it's like impossible that both are scum that why I asking him why Marv over TD.


I'm not saying marv over TD. I'm saying marv.
Because I AM IGNORING THOSE CLAIMS

LS, it's all in my filter.

Can you tell me why marv is town, in the other hand?

Okay so first you didn't like the fact he was dodging you hard then found it suspicious that Marv was willing to tell his role to Sandroba, Damdred, and Palmar who he didn't trust at the time which is weird to do. My arguement for Marv being town was he was the first one to claim Mason Recruiter in a high chance of a counter claim but that is only it.
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May 16 2015 04:16 GMT
#2353
On May 16 2015 13:05 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2015 12:52 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 16 2015 12:19 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 16 2015 12:15 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 16 2015 12:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
Glowing bear is ignoring all the claims.

Also ls, it's basically impossible that both of them are scum.

I know it's like impossible that both are scum that why I asking him why Marv over TD.


I'm not saying marv over TD. I'm saying marv.
Because I AM IGNORING THOSE CLAIMS

LS, it's all in my filter.

Can you tell me why marv is town, in the other hand?

Okay so first you didn't like the fact he was dodging you hard then found it suspicious that Marv was willing to tell his role to Sandroba, Damdred, and Palmar who he didn't trust at the time which is weird to do. My arguement for Marv being town was he was the first one to claim Mason Recruiter in a high chance of a counter claim but that is only it.


No.

1) Marv's play is uninspiring, lurky, not actually trying to solve the game, voting people for weak reasons

2) Marv townread me because I was bad, and he knows I am bad as both alignments. He says that he can differ my scumbad to my townbad, but he doesn't explain how. Extremely dodgy

3) Marv raises suspicions on oats twice during day1. Never follow up this suspicion. Ignores me when I raise suspicions on oats but talks to me to say "BH is not the lynch". He saw those suspicions because this part of "BH is up for the lynch" was next to my suspicions on oats

4) Marv agrees with one point of my case on oats, does not say which point it is, say that he caught oats like that once AND COMPLETELY IGNORE OATS AGAIN. In other words: marv does not stick to his suspicions and rather vote on confirmed townies (BH, Vivax, Onegu) for weak reasons. Specially Onegu.

I saw early in your filter how you felt about Marv being lackluster (Although I do agree about his play being lack luster compared to Linux and Horns when I had played with him when he was town when he was playing pretty good esp in Horns in Day Phase before LYLO where we were looking for the last scum and he found the scum there) and his dodging is pretty bad esp about both of your reads on Oats and how he just didn't talk to you about Oats really. I think you should shoot Marv or just lynch him.
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LightningStrike
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United States14276 Posts
May 16 2015 04:55 GMT
#2355
On May 16 2015 13:36 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2015 13:16 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 16 2015 13:05 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 16 2015 12:52 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 16 2015 12:19 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 16 2015 12:15 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 16 2015 12:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
Glowing bear is ignoring all the claims.

Also ls, it's basically impossible that both of them are scum.

I know it's like impossible that both are scum that why I asking him why Marv over TD.


I'm not saying marv over TD. I'm saying marv.
Because I AM IGNORING THOSE CLAIMS

LS, it's all in my filter.

Can you tell me why marv is town, in the other hand?

Okay so first you didn't like the fact he was dodging you hard then found it suspicious that Marv was willing to tell his role to Sandroba, Damdred, and Palmar who he didn't trust at the time which is weird to do. My arguement for Marv being town was he was the first one to claim Mason Recruiter in a high chance of a counter claim but that is only it.


No.

1) Marv's play is uninspiring, lurky, not actually trying to solve the game, voting people for weak reasons

2) Marv townread me because I was bad, and he knows I am bad as both alignments. He says that he can differ my scumbad to my townbad, but he doesn't explain how. Extremely dodgy

3) Marv raises suspicions on oats twice during day1. Never follow up this suspicion. Ignores me when I raise suspicions on oats but talks to me to say "BH is not the lynch". He saw those suspicions because this part of "BH is up for the lynch" was next to my suspicions on oats

4) Marv agrees with one point of my case on oats, does not say which point it is, say that he caught oats like that once AND COMPLETELY IGNORE OATS AGAIN. In other words: marv does not stick to his suspicions and rather vote on confirmed townies (BH, Vivax, Onegu) for weak reasons. Specially Onegu.

I saw early in your filter how you felt about Marv being lackluster (Although I do agree about his play being lack luster compared to Linux and Horns when I had played with him when he was town when he was playing pretty good esp in Horns in Day Phase before LYLO where we were looking for the last scum and he found the scum there) and his dodging is pretty bad esp about both of your reads on Oats and how he just didn't talk to you about Oats really. I think you should shoot Marv or just lynch him.


You say this now?

Also, I can't shoot anymore. Wish I did it yesterday.

By the way, if you're really the Martyr, protect Yamato tonight. If he dies, I'll blame you.

Also, RoL, can I take more of your posts please? I'm not aware of how much posts I'm wasting but I think I've used a lot.

I thought you still had the power to shoot o.o Okay we just lynching Marv then. Also if he dies and I alive it most likely means there is a roleblocker left for scum.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
May 16 2015 14:20 GMT
#2383
On May 16 2015 22:17 Half the Sky wrote:
28/50

Ignore that last post I keep thinking its N3. I'm a doofus.

Yamato seems towny to me as well.

LS, would really like to know where he stands with the scumreads.

Town:
GlowingBear: Been pushing the the thread even when we were lynching Onegu it to suicidal to push againist the thread sentiment for scum.

HTS: She had decent content throughout the game although fallen off a little bit but it might be because of irl stuff.

Yamato: Had bad luck rolling scum twice in and row and actually produced much more content and stuff compared to his last scum game he did nothing

Stutters: unCCed Vig and meta reading him as town too and will fight for him if for some dumb reason people want to lynch him.

TD: Out of the two mason recruiters he's the town assuming it's Geript since Geript as scum acts more like a dick.

VE: Claimed the shot on Xata who we thought was scum.

KSC: Started out strong but seemed to fallen off a little bit but added some points to HTS thing on Onegu.

Rsoultin: Okay I added the players who haven't flipped to the lists they fall to I felt like she was town even though annoyed she tried to work others and had some decent content when she was alive.

OWS: Defended Me and a rsoultin a little bit and had some good points about the mason it could be a useless regardless of marv's and TD's alignment.

Tfrel: Had some decent content but was slacking off in the last Day Phase and he needs to make up for it.
Null:
Bats: Seems trolly and asked if I had played with Onegu before and his content wasn't that great but it's bats who knows.

Rebirthoflegend: Very little content and it starting look like his 1 page filter as scum :|
Scum:
Xata: I scumread him and so did many others before him being shot by VE and he's a natural scum :O

Marv: His play been very lackluster this entire game compared to the few times I had played with him when he was town

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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
May 16 2015 14:51 GMT
#2386
On May 16 2015 23:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
You have 2 scumreads??
And one is dead already.
hm.

I have 2 null reads too meaning they could be either town or scum.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
May 16 2015 15:49 GMT
#2390
On May 17 2015 00:46 GlowingBear wrote:
Why is nobody discussing VE's "oh I don't think JAT should be shot, it should be BH for information" then instantly voting VE without searching for further information, like, considering LS for the lynch?

How would VE vote himself lol.
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LightningStrike
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United States14276 Posts
May 16 2015 16:30 GMT
#2393
Not me.
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LightningStrike
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United States14276 Posts
May 16 2015 16:31 GMT
#2394
Anyways in about 15 mins I leaving to play in a Yugioh TCG tournament that last until like a hour or so before EoN but I already listed my reads except for Oats he's Null he can be lazy as both alignments.
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LightningStrike
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United States14276 Posts
May 16 2015 20:38 GMT
#2468
Sorry Onegu it just a bad habit of mine
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LightningStrike
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United States14276 Posts
May 16 2015 20:41 GMT
#2469
On May 17 2015 03:24 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2015 03:13 Damdred wrote:
That's the thing I think, I've talked about this with Yamato and I was guilty of some of it, bit trying to role hint or going through there's x in game so one has to be Scum isn't the way you win games like this.

Which is why I'm really happy and enjoyed this game, mostly every one just tried to Scum hunt it felt like.

Overall I think the blues mostly played well, it was still odd LS protected GB n1, no offense to,GB that was a weird protect. I'd like him to explain that one lol.

Was a good game I really enjoyed my time in it


Well, I was very town-looking, I could be a medic dodge

Also the fact that by reputation you just stick to scum(or you think scum) so hard that mafia would be forced to shoot you hence why I protected you N1.
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LightningStrike
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United States14276 Posts
May 16 2015 20:59 GMT
#2472
On May 17 2015 05:53 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2015 05:41 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 17 2015 03:24 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 17 2015 03:13 Damdred wrote:
That's the thing I think, I've talked about this with Yamato and I was guilty of some of it, bit trying to role hint or going through there's x in game so one has to be Scum isn't the way you win games like this.

Which is why I'm really happy and enjoyed this game, mostly every one just tried to Scum hunt it felt like.

Overall I think the blues mostly played well, it was still odd LS protected GB n1, no offense to,GB that was a weird protect. I'd like him to explain that one lol.

Was a good game I really enjoyed my time in it


Well, I was very town-looking, I could be a medic dodge

Also the fact that by reputation you just stick to scum(or you think scum) so hard that mafia would be forced to shoot you hence why I protected you N1.

The fact that he sticks to his reads does not mean that scum has to shoot him at all.

He normally drives these lynches though (See Carol if you need a reference).
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LightningStrike
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United States14276 Posts
May 16 2015 21:00 GMT
#2473
On May 17 2015 05:51 Damdred wrote:
.......

I hate to say this it might sound mean but 9/10 times GB will,never get shot. Especially with a stacked players list. That's not against GB obviously


GB was my number 1 townread with Sandroba being my number 2 I was debating on saving Sandroba or GlowingBear I guess I shoulda went on Sandroba.
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LightningStrike
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United States14276 Posts
May 16 2015 21:08 GMT
#2475
On May 17 2015 06:06 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2015 05:59 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 17 2015 05:53 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 17 2015 05:41 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 17 2015 03:24 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 17 2015 03:13 Damdred wrote:
That's the thing I think, I've talked about this with Yamato and I was guilty of some of it, bit trying to role hint or going through there's x in game so one has to be Scum isn't the way you win games like this.

Which is why I'm really happy and enjoyed this game, mostly every one just tried to Scum hunt it felt like.

Overall I think the blues mostly played well, it was still odd LS protected GB n1, no offense to,GB that was a weird protect. I'd like him to explain that one lol.

Was a good game I really enjoyed my time in it


Well, I was very town-looking, I could be a medic dodge

Also the fact that by reputation you just stick to scum(or you think scum) so hard that mafia would be forced to shoot you hence why I protected you N1.

The fact that he sticks to his reads does not mean that scum has to shoot him at all.

He normally drives these lynches though (See Carol if you need a reference).

No, he normally does not get listened to at all ^_^

Well got listened to at Carol though lol and that was one of my very few experiences with him as town (I haven't played much with him at all like maybe 3-5 total together tbh lol)
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LightningStrike
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United States14276 Posts
May 16 2015 21:23 GMT
#2478
On May 17 2015 06:19 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2015 06:00 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 17 2015 05:51 Damdred wrote:
.......

I hate to say this it might sound mean but 9/10 times GB will,never get shot. Especially with a stacked players list. That's not against GB obviously


GB was my number 1 townread with Sandroba being my number 2 I was debating on saving Sandroba or GlowingBear I guess I shoulda went on Sandroba.

It's okay I'm used to it. I only get medic saved when I'm mafia. Otherwise dead n1 every game.

Gotta figure out exactly what makes mafia compared to town when I medic playing with you.
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LightningStrike
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United States14276 Posts
May 16 2015 21:24 GMT
#2480
On May 17 2015 06:22 Damdred wrote:
I'm just not sure I agree, you have super townread Sand got universal town damdred. Got marv, Palmar, rsoultin.

Scum will,never ever shoot GB even as a medic,dodge over these people medic dodge or no. And I just don't get it I guess to me it's suboptimal but I also got yelled at for shooting bm so yea

Your BM shot was weird but so was my protection to GB so it's traded lol.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
May 16 2015 21:28 GMT
#2482
On May 17 2015 06:25 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2015 06:24 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 17 2015 06:22 Damdred wrote:
I'm just not sure I agree, you have super townread Sand got universal town damdred. Got marv, Palmar, rsoultin.

Scum will,never ever shoot GB even as a medic,dodge over these people medic dodge or no. And I just don't get it I guess to me it's suboptimal but I also got yelled at for shooting bm so yea

Your BM shot was weird but so was my protection to GB so it's traded lol.

His BM shot was really good. It shouldn't have been necessary but since BM got pardoned it was.

BM was to trigger happy for me to think he was scum so that why I thought his shot on BM was weird lol.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
May 16 2015 21:30 GMT
#2484
On May 17 2015 06:28 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2015 06:24 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 17 2015 06:22 Damdred wrote:
I'm just not sure I agree, you have super townread Sand got universal town damdred. Got marv, Palmar, rsoultin.

Scum will,never ever shoot GB even as a medic,dodge over these people medic dodge or no. And I just don't get it I guess to me it's suboptimal but I also got yelled at for shooting bm so yea

Thanks for leaving me out bro.


Well I was trying to remember where LS reads were and I think,he was torn leaning on those I named

I was more torn on Palmar and Marv since I was heavily townreading rsoultin but I thought people would take advantage of her being night killed so early lately and thus didn't protect her.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
May 16 2015 22:27 GMT
#2495
On May 17 2015 06:39 Damdred wrote:
I still don't get why people thought the shot was so bad to rage and call me Scum in thread.

Bm had been pretty scummy honestly and really looked bad for power use etc., to scummy to,be Scum isn't a good defense. And the way he's hot nuke 2 is super scummy even if it's fake.

It was just really confusing to,the thread and even,if,he was town two days of,the same,convo isn't good.

So explain why it's bad to,me ls

Again some people like me were townreading him for being to trigger happy but it was a good shot in end.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
May 16 2015 22:29 GMT
#2497
On May 17 2015 07:00 GlowingBear wrote:
No, wait a minute.

I've played badly, I've being playing badly since my last newbie game (I blame the coaches), but you can't say that I'm never listened to.

Holyflare was lynched in Carol because I kept tunneling him since day2

Marv was going to be lynched at some point and that is why I always kept pointing suspicions on him since he scumread Onegu day1

It's not because I'm playing badly half of the times that I'm playing badly.

Tell me what's wrong with the points I've brought on marv. The last post answering LS.

I liked of your points and even then I felt like his play was very lackluster in terms of content and being townie so meh.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
May 17 2015 00:32 GMT
#2505
Xata is always a policy shot though since he's a natural Mafia
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United States14276 Posts
May 17 2015 02:09 GMT
#2517
On May 17 2015 10:49 rsoultin wrote:
Lol phone texting...had marv pegged practically all game and called marv/td on obs ^^

Also didn't want ve to think I think he's stupid lol

So you pegged marv from the beginning?
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