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Also to add to the previous point I made on Shining - filter check not much discussion on Scott at all then this post comes right as he votes him, the second to last vote on Scott.
On May 05 2015 04:24 The Shining wrote:
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As for Scott, I agree with the points made against him. And if it were any other player, I'd be worried about no one defending him but if he is in fact scum, it would mean he rolled scum every game he's played here. I could understand the lack of defense, lack of posting, possible lack of motivation as someone who is tired of rolling scum as a newbie.
As I said before, a town trait - even if you sheep a case - is to sheep town reads, and it's not clear in the post who he's sheeping or why or anything. This is an answer where he's not accountable for his actions - if you were to name a townread, there's some sort of progression. Saying I agree with everyone, or inferring that - this is quite a weak reason to throw his vote on Scott and with 3.5 hours to go (when the vote went down) he had more than enough time to read the thread and come up with a better progression.
If Shining is here, I'd like to know
1 why the vote didn't go down earlier in the day if he was suspicious of him
2 what conclusions you had on me at EoD if any and what now
And of course, updated reads.
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I'll be back in time for end of night, and I'll try and leave a legacy post.
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On May 06 2015 05:37 prplhz wrote:
yea i don't know. i COULD buy it but i'm not necessarily buying it. maybe it's a bad idea to read too much into it.
I smell more scumlike behaviour...why are you so afraid to commit after you said ticktock looks horrible?
On May 06 2015 04:10 prplhz wrote:
dunno i think ticktock looks horrible for throwing away his vote like that.
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On May 06 2015 05:45 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2015 05:37 prplhz wrote:
yea i don't know. i COULD buy it but i'm not necessarily buying it. maybe it's a bad idea to read too much into it. I smell more scumlike behaviour...why are you so afraid to commit after you said ticktock looks horrible? Show nested quote +On May 06 2015 04:10 prplhz wrote:
dunno i think ticktock looks horrible for throwing away his vote like that.
well because i sort of tunneled bourneq that student game for doing something (not committing) that i thought was scummy but already on d1 i was like "maybe he's just some guy who just does not commit a lot". the same reason i reconsidered -c- this game, maybe he just is that super tryhard straight to the point no funsies guy or maybe that's just how he's playing this game. ritoky pointed out some other explanation (which was pretty much just "well what if he's town anyway") so i'm reconsidering.
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current scummers: sl, shining, maybe super, maybe ritoky
maybes based on tonereads recently.
town: HtS, disambiguation, -c-
Playing video games til daypost
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i mean i guess ticktock still looks horrible for that vote no matter what alignment he is. he just wasted his vote and then went "oh and by the way i'm not going to do anything until n2".
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On May 06 2015 05:54 prplhz wrote:
i mean i guess ticktock still looks horrible for that vote no matter what alignment he is. he just wasted his vote and then went "oh and by the way i'm not going to do anything until n2".
did he really? ok put TT in my scummy pile
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On May 06 2015 04:48 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2015 04:41 sicklucker wrote:
and since when do mafia nk the most likely towns they always go for da roles Seriously? Why do you think Holyflare often gets N1ed in games? How often is he blue when this happens? *facepalm*
but no one here is anygood
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Anyway scum should nk me or ill make them regret it ;p
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On May 06 2015 05:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
current scummers: sl, shining, maybe super, maybe ritoky
maybes based on tonereads recently.
town: HtS, disambiguation, -c-
Playing video games til daypost
Why won't you lynch prpl? He afks, then sheeps a terrible wagon on HtS then does nothing until people actually start suspecting him.
I need to read up on Shining, I forgot about him. Otherwise I can see that list (add prpl) minus ritoky. He's said some stuff that's real weird but when looking at his filter it looks better. I wanted to case him but when I went to do it I actually liked it more.
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On May 06 2015 05:54 prplhz wrote:
i mean i guess ticktock still looks horrible for that vote no matter what alignment he is. he just wasted his vote and then went "oh and by the way i'm not going to do anything until n2".
Huh? Oh look I'm back... well before N2...
I passed out hard after a long day yesterday, just woke up a bit ago and got caught up reading whats happened since.
I'm not surprised you guys don't like me for that vote, I'm disappointing in my EoD as well.
I'll give up guys a post here in a few to walk you through my thinking one last time (also this will answer your question HtS). Then I'm going to start re-reading the thread, and delving into filters. Again, HtS I'll get to your question about Super after I reread his filter.
I'll be around pretty much the rest of the day, so after I get the next post up if anyone still has questions feel free to ask me.
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Psstttt, ritoky....
On May 06 2015 04:45 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2015 04:16 ritoky wrote:On May 06 2015 04:07 Superbia wrote:
What did celestial do to become confirmed town? he went and posted this: On May 06 2015 02:51 -Celestial- wrote:On May 06 2015 02:14 ritoky wrote:
-c-, i don't understand your hts read. why aren't you leaning town on her? she basically has the exact same reads as you. I already mentioned why in my post above. Simply put: I know from personal experience she can make a good job of hiding as scum. A few pages ago Superbia asked for my thoughts on HtS and my conclusion was the following: Okay, overall...fairly townie BUT seems to be taking quite an easy route of it. She's doing some of her own work rather than just sheeping but most of it is largely uncontroversial. Its typically just a continuation of what other people have said rather than anything hugely bold; although she does bring up a few fresh new points. I'm not really convinced of scum but given how smart I know HtS can be as scum from the last game its always a possibility. The whole thing of not particularly rustling anybody's feathers bothers me just a little. Though that could be simply because she came into the thread late. Obviously there's been more since then. I WANT to townread her but honestly this game I'm not sure she's ever going to get better than a null from my own inherently suspicious bias. Sure, some of our reads are similar but I don't actually consider that to be outright alignment indicative in and of itself. I'm not perfect (as the egg on my face from pushing the scott lynch so hard can attest to) which means its entirely possible she's simply picked up on reads I've gotten wrong and is going along with it to fit in. Or she might genuinely believe it. Or she might think that I might think that and.... I'm drifting into WIFOM territory here. >_> How does that post make Celestial confirmed town? What phrases are you keying in here? IMO "fear" reads are NAI. Celestial fears me based on a scumteam performance we had together. You townread him. In Student 7, mafia godfather Tubesock ALSO fear-read me (I was town vanilla) on this same game's performance. People can throw fear reads as either alignment. What logic with this post are you using to arrive at your conclusion?
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On May 06 2015 06:20 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2015 04:48 Half the Sky wrote:On May 06 2015 04:41 sicklucker wrote:
and since when do mafia nk the most likely towns they always go for da roles Seriously? Why do you think Holyflare often gets N1ed in games? How often is he blue when this happens? *facepalm* but no one here is anygood
You missed the point. What you said (and even what I said) was 100% wifom.
You're not really achieving anything talking about nightkills. What are your reads?
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On May 06 2015 05:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
current scummers: sl, shining, maybe super, maybe ritoky
maybes based on tonereads recently.
town: HtS, disambiguation, -c-
Playing video games til daypost
Reasoning? (For any of the reads aside from the maybes)
Disinformation is a newbie. What jumps out at you as townie?
You also left y0su out. Where do you stand on him?
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On May 06 2015 04:28 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2015 04:25 Stutters695 wrote:On May 06 2015 03:57 ritoky wrote:On May 06 2015 03:37 Stutters695 wrote:On May 06 2015 02:40 ritoky wrote:On May 06 2015 02:25 Stutters695 wrote:
I'm kinda souring on Rit. Is he always this all over the place?
That question to HtS about prp is really wtf. your opinion is not very high on my list. and no i haven't been all over the place like this in a very long time. i also haven't rolled VT in over 10 games. how is it wtf. she is posting giant posts about other people and really pushing them for info. i just don't see the conviction behind her push on prp. like she says lynch him with fire, but i don't get that sense. if someone votes on me EoD then fks off, i become a legit wagon, and he comes back makes 0 comment and moves onto a new target; i would be on him like white on rice. i was expecting more of a response. Until he comes back, what can she do about it? "Hey prpl, why don't you have any opinions?" "Prpl, I'm still waiting" "Prpl plz respond" It shits up the thread for no real benefit. Until he shows back up and actually has an opinion, we lynch him. There's nothing to discuss, this is how scum prpl do. It totally makes sense, but I can see where you're coming from there. phrase it in a manner that says "hey asshole, when you get back respond to this or i will lynch you" rather than "hey....so how was your day? by the way, y'know if you notice or have time, could you like please answer this question that i left? if not, okay i guess i understand" there's a difference between inquiring about something cuz your interested and want to see where it goes and demanding an answer cuz that asshole is probably scum. she should be doing the latter, but seems to be doing the former. That was already clear. Prpl doesn't need his hand held. If he steps up town can reevaluate but if not he's scum and he needs to die. Simple as that really. Getting to your questions Super, I'm at work so it fluctuates depending how busy I am. You're getting this wrong. The manner in which the question is posed doesn't say anything about prp. It says something about HtS.
If it was an actual case, I would agree. The fact that it's on his absence/meta changes that. The only thing that changes that read is his analysis/play and we're arguing semantics at this point unless I'm completely misunderstanding you.
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On May 06 2015 06:41 Half the Sky wrote:Psstttt, ritoky.... Show nested quote +On May 06 2015 04:45 Half the Sky wrote:On May 06 2015 04:16 ritoky wrote:On May 06 2015 04:07 Superbia wrote:
What did celestial do to become confirmed town? he went and posted this: On May 06 2015 02:51 -Celestial- wrote:On May 06 2015 02:14 ritoky wrote:
-c-, i don't understand your hts read. why aren't you leaning town on her? she basically has the exact same reads as you. I already mentioned why in my post above. Simply put: I know from personal experience she can make a good job of hiding as scum. A few pages ago Superbia asked for my thoughts on HtS and my conclusion was the following: Okay, overall...fairly townie BUT seems to be taking quite an easy route of it. She's doing some of her own work rather than just sheeping but most of it is largely uncontroversial. Its typically just a continuation of what other people have said rather than anything hugely bold; although she does bring up a few fresh new points. I'm not really convinced of scum but given how smart I know HtS can be as scum from the last game its always a possibility. The whole thing of not particularly rustling anybody's feathers bothers me just a little. Though that could be simply because she came into the thread late. Obviously there's been more since then. I WANT to townread her but honestly this game I'm not sure she's ever going to get better than a null from my own inherently suspicious bias. Sure, some of our reads are similar but I don't actually consider that to be outright alignment indicative in and of itself. I'm not perfect (as the egg on my face from pushing the scott lynch so hard can attest to) which means its entirely possible she's simply picked up on reads I've gotten wrong and is going along with it to fit in. Or she might genuinely believe it. Or she might think that I might think that and.... I'm drifting into WIFOM territory here. >_> How does that post make Celestial confirmed town? What phrases are you keying in here? IMO "fear" reads are NAI. Celestial fears me based on a scumteam performance we had together. You townread him. In Student 7, mafia godfather Tubesock ALSO fear-read me (I was town vanilla) on this same game's performance. People can throw fear reads as either alignment. What logic with this post are you using to arrive at your conclusion?
he is already town. as a newer player he spearheads a lynch on a townie day 1 and really believed in his read, which for a non new player is meh, but a newer player doesnt usually make that play as mafia. so he is already super town. i then say his read makes no sense to me, he stays calm, tries his best to explain the read, displays a healthy level of paranoia in his reads and seems legitimately flustered over being wrong. he then stops himself from going too far in the tank. it is a blatant stream of consciousness post all in the form of a town mindset on top of him being super town to begin with. guy is so town it hurts.
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dystopian future is posting more freely than I think a new scum would. So toneread I guess
sl rubbing me the wrong way seems more concerned with calling himself town than with finding scum,
shining should actually be stutters for only entering the tthread when talked about
y0su doesn't bring anything up in my brain when I think about him do you have something on him?
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i didn't rly like your reads above ff, but that sl read tickles my jimmies.
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On May 06 2015 06:54 ritoky wrote:
he is already town. as a newer player he spearheads a lynch on a townie day 1 and really believed in his read, which for a non new player is meh, but a newer player doesnt usually make that play as mafia. so he is already super town. i then say his read makes no sense to me, he stays calm, tries his best to explain the read, displays a healthy level of paranoia in his reads and seems legitimately flustered over being wrong. he then stops himself from going too far in the tank. it is a blatant stream of consciousness post all in the form of a town mindset on top of him being super town to begin with. guy is so town it hurts.
Alright, fair.
I also interpret "confirmed" town as a flipped town or a DT check or some mechanic that actually literally confirms that person, which is why I asked.
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