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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 05 2015 19:28 GMT
#981
On May 06 2015 04:22 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2015 04:10 prplhz wrote:
dunno i think ticktock looks horrible for throwing away his vote like that.


so you're not buying the nervous newbie town, doesn't know what to do at deadline idea? why not, what makes you think it is more likely scum wasting his vote?

I could buy that.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 05 2015 19:29 GMT
#982
On May 06 2015 04:19 Superbia wrote:
FF where's your excel sheet at atm?

Haven't opened it since yesterday at like 10am
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 05 2015 19:31 GMT
#983
Is TL being really, REALLY slow for anyone else?

Like hangs after loading the top bar slow.
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 05 2015 19:36 GMT
#984
On May 06 2015 04:31 Fecalfeast wrote:
Is TL being really, REALLY slow for anyone else?

Like hangs after loading the top bar slow.

dunno that happens regularly to me? it's not particularly bad right now though.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 05 2015 19:36 GMT
#985
On May 06 2015 03:51 Superbia wrote:
Also Stutters, HtS, what do you think of your d1 performance?


Seriously? That's a loaded question, regardless of whom you are asking.
What in the bloody hell are you trying to achieve asking this?

And VCA I can try, but same problem - VCA doesn't do much in the way of (useful) information right now when no scum have flipped. I know I'm town, and both main wagons were town with Scott having flipped.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 05 2015 19:36 GMT
#986
That said, looking at isolated behaviours on both wagons -

Isolated votes (e.g. Tictock) are always bad and I've already pointed out problems with him independent of his last minute vote. Waiting for a response on that plus the additional question I had from D1.

Offhand I know sicklucker looks really bad because he placed a vote on Scott saying "first impressions are the best" or something and then I told him others also had shite entrances - why was he singling out Scott for his bad entrance. I don't recall him answering that question.

Stutters's D1 performance was sparse, as it always is - D1 is a meta read on my end, but the town read comes from post-lynch activity. He's more actively trying to figure things out.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 05 2015 19:37 GMT
#987
Fecalfeast - no issues with TL atm. Mobile, I'm fine as well.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 05 2015 19:39 GMT
#988
On May 06 2015 04:28 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2015 04:22 ritoky wrote:
On May 06 2015 04:10 prplhz wrote:
dunno i think ticktock looks horrible for throwing away his vote like that.


so you're not buying the nervous newbie town, doesn't know what to do at deadline idea? why not, what makes you think it is more likely scum wasting his vote?

I could buy that.


So you think he's wasting his vote but yet you could buy a newbie play argument. Where does that put you now?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 05 2015 19:41 GMT
#989
I think i looked pretty good when i put some time into it
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 05 2015 19:41 GMT
#990
and since when do mafia nk the most likely towns they always go for da roles
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 05 2015 19:45 GMT
#991
On May 06 2015 04:16 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2015 04:07 Superbia wrote:
What did celestial do to become confirmed town?


he went and posted this:

Show nested quote +
On May 06 2015 02:51 -Celestial- wrote:
On May 06 2015 02:14 ritoky wrote:
-c-, i don't understand your hts read. why aren't you leaning town on her? she basically has the exact same reads as you.


I already mentioned why in my post above. Simply put: I know from personal experience she can make a good job of hiding as scum. A few pages ago Superbia asked for my thoughts on HtS and my conclusion was the following:

Okay, overall...fairly townie BUT seems to be taking quite an easy route of it. She's doing some of her own work rather than just sheeping but most of it is largely uncontroversial. Its typically just a continuation of what other people have said rather than anything hugely bold; although she does bring up a few fresh new points. I'm not really convinced of scum but given how smart I know HtS can be as scum from the last game its always a possibility. The whole thing of not particularly rustling anybody's feathers bothers me just a little. Though that could be simply because she came into the thread late.


Obviously there's been more since then. I WANT to townread her but honestly this game I'm not sure she's ever going to get better than a null from my own inherently suspicious bias. Sure, some of our reads are similar but I don't actually consider that to be outright alignment indicative in and of itself. I'm not perfect (as the egg on my face from pushing the scott lynch so hard can attest to) which means its entirely possible she's simply picked up on reads I've gotten wrong and is going along with it to fit in. Or she might genuinely believe it. Or she might think that I might think that and....

I'm drifting into WIFOM territory here. >_>


How does that post make Celestial confirmed town? What phrases are you keying in here?

IMO "fear" reads are NAI. Celestial fears me based on a scumteam performance we had together. You townread him.

In Student 7, mafia godfather Tubesock ALSO fear-read me (I was town vanilla) on this same game's performance.
People can throw fear reads as either alignment.
What logic with this post are you using to arrive at your conclusion?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
May 05 2015 19:47 GMT
#992
On May 06 2015 04:36 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2015 03:51 Superbia wrote:
Also Stutters, HtS, what do you think of your d1 performance?


Seriously? That's a loaded question, regardless of whom you are asking.
What in the bloody hell are you trying to achieve asking this?

And VCA I can try, but same problem - VCA doesn't do much in the way of (useful) information right now when no scum have flipped. I know I'm town, and both main wagons were town with Scott having flipped.


You're in a position where you should be able to see the merits of scum switching if you're town. Why was scum not swayed by arguments in the last moments and switched to you? Or did they? If so, who was it? I want you to draw conclusions from my aggression versus you and the fact that everyone kept their vote on Scott. Also where are you at with my alignment right now?
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
May 05 2015 19:47 GMT
#993
Afk again btw. FF give reads.
Minimal effort.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 05 2015 19:48 GMT
#994
On May 06 2015 04:41 sicklucker wrote:
and since when do mafia nk the most likely towns they always go for da roles


Seriously?

Why do you think Holyflare often gets N1ed in games?

How often is he blue when this happens?

*facepalm*
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 05 2015 19:55 GMT
#995
On May 06 2015 03:51 Superbia wrote:
Also Stutters, HtS, what do you think of your d1 performance?


Absolutely policy lynch worthy. Weekends I don't have a lot of time and I don't like d1 so I'd understand getting lynched then. Obviously I'd disagree but I get it. Although I'd rather have the time/motivation to do a true d1, I've found that at least once my posting picks up it reveals a lot about people who push me and why they do it.

Regarding HtS, she's one of the most town people here imo.

When I read her filter I see well reasoned posting from someone using all the information available to make informed conclusions on basically everything. If she's scum and putting this much into it she'll crack at some point, but I absolutely do not see it right now.

What makes you think prpl isn't a good lynch?
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 05 2015 20:03 GMT
#996
On May 06 2015 04:41 sicklucker wrote:
I think i looked pretty good when i put some time into it


All of three posts in your entire filter, and the last of those three posts you are just rehashing what you stated. You could be doing that as either alignment.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 05 2015 20:18 GMT
#997
On May 06 2015 04:47 Superbia wrote:
You're in a position where you should be able to see the merits of scum switching if you're town. Why was scum not swayed by arguments in the last moments and switched to you? Or did they? If so, who was it? I want you to draw conclusions from my aggression versus you and the fact that everyone kept their vote on Scott. Also where are you at with my alignment right now?


Need to re-read EoD one more time but I know FF/SL made a mention of having scant time left and debating whether to switch or not. Tictock looks bad for reasons I stated.

Shining soft pushed me on the same post that ritoky did in response to one of Shining's questions but then completely AFKed the thread without any conclusion on my response to HIS question. I already made my case that of everyone in the exchange, he actually looks the worst.

prplhz as I stated earlier N1 was making a lot of backseat pushes (basically not as involved or invested as you or ritoky) on me, and then N1 start he's on Stutters and makes zero comment on me - same with you until now.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 05 2015 20:20 GMT
#998
Also at Superbia -

Unless I missed it, leading up to end of day 1, your read progression on me to sum up was "do more shit" - I did stuff - you call it BS without substantiating the arguement about 90 minutes prior to EoD. The read progression wasn't there. Your approach felt very sudden - it was out of nowhere you say after 2 minutes of reappearing and reading you were like "I could lynch HTS and disinformation". So the tone really didn't come across to me as genuine, more of a desperate "toys-out-the-pram" approach.

I asked you to substantiate the read by the time I get back in thread (approx 30m prior EoD) and you said you didn't have time - could be evasive, could be legit. I didn't take that non-answer as indicative at that time since time was short.

Now? I like how you questioned ritoky's post and I had the same sentiment. But asking us our D1 performance doesn't give anything useful and loaded questions usually are given by mafia to deflect attention from yourself. So I saw mafia agenda in that.

Also some of the questions you are asking indicates you are not really reading the thread. The questions you asked ritoky (about my alignment) and Stutters were literally answered in the page or two before you asked the question. Not reading the thread usually indicates you're not invested in the game.

I'll be completely honest - for those reasons I still have a scumread on you. If you are somehow town, you are/have been extremely tunnelled.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 05 2015 20:29 GMT
#999
On May 06 2015 04:28 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2015 04:22 ritoky wrote:
On May 06 2015 04:10 prplhz wrote:
dunno i think ticktock looks horrible for throwing away his vote like that.


so you're not buying the nervous newbie town, doesn't know what to do at deadline idea? why not, what makes you think it is more likely scum wasting his vote?

I could buy that.


but you could also buy the: i don't wanna late vote on this town, i don't wanna vote on my partner, so i waste my vote line too? which one do you buy more?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 05 2015 20:37 GMT
#1000
On May 06 2015 05:29 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2015 04:28 prplhz wrote:
On May 06 2015 04:22 ritoky wrote:
On May 06 2015 04:10 prplhz wrote:
dunno i think ticktock looks horrible for throwing away his vote like that.


so you're not buying the nervous newbie town, doesn't know what to do at deadline idea? why not, what makes you think it is more likely scum wasting his vote?

I could buy that.


but you could also buy the: i don't wanna late vote on this town, i don't wanna vote on my partner, so i waste my vote line too? which one do you buy more?

yea i don't know. i COULD buy it but i'm not necessarily buying it. maybe it's a bad idea to read too much into it.
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