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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
May 03 2015 19:17 GMT
#461
I've said what I wanted to about celestial for now.
Minimal effort.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 03 2015 19:17 GMT
#462
ff, what do you think of ritoky's initial "loopyness" followed by a pretty quick change of direction into questioning?
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 03 2015 19:19 GMT
#463
I think it fits with his story of being tired from a ridiculous flight and the fact that he smartened up and started asking questions seems good to me. He is green for me right now
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 03 2015 19:21 GMT
#464
One of the first adult books i ever read as a kid was a horror novel called tick tock where a doll followed some dude around and kept saying tick tock. Iirc it ended with the doll eating itself for some reason idk but it scared the shit out of me as a kid
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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
May 03 2015 19:24 GMT
#465
On May 04 2015 04:11 Fecalfeast wrote:
alright tick tock time to fight what are you got what makes me scum you say I have nothing in my posts so you're saying I have no reads... I could go to my computer and show you my spreadsheet if you like


If you have reads I don't see you sharing them. Your active and posting lots of stuff, but out of the 4 pages of your filter I can only find a post or two that adds to real discussion. Might just be the early game fluff talk outweighing your few questions and discussions.

I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
May 03 2015 19:26 GMT
#466
On May 04 2015 04:09 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 04:06 Tictock wrote:
Allright done with work for the day, so I can actually be active here for awhile.

A couple reads of the thread thus far have left me with the following read/feels.

-Celestial- A pretty clear town read. The initial reads are all very clear with good reasoning. While there is a bit of tunneling happening on scott celestial has given clear reasons why.

scott31337 Seems scummy for sure. I can looks past the initial voting stuff,to an extent, but the reactions to the pressure do not read as town to me at all.

Fecalfeast I was originally going to give FF a town read as he seems active and engadged, but looking at his filter I find nothing solid in his posts. That puts him neutral for me, with maybe just a hint of scum.

I'll have to dig through more filters to see if I can get more reads. I have a hard time putting much stock into my D1 reads with the level of fluff posts and pressure plays, but I'll keep posting about what is standing out to me.


FF is so clearly town it's unreal that you think he's neutral/slightly scummy.


What makes him clearly town to you?
I can take that responsibility.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 03 2015 19:34 GMT
#467
On May 04 2015 04:26 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 04:09 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 04 2015 04:06 Tictock wrote:
Allright done with work for the day, so I can actually be active here for awhile.

A couple reads of the thread thus far have left me with the following read/feels.

-Celestial- A pretty clear town read. The initial reads are all very clear with good reasoning. While there is a bit of tunneling happening on scott celestial has given clear reasons why.

scott31337 Seems scummy for sure. I can looks past the initial voting stuff,to an extent, but the reactions to the pressure do not read as town to me at all.

Fecalfeast I was originally going to give FF a town read as he seems active and engadged, but looking at his filter I find nothing solid in his posts. That puts him neutral for me, with maybe just a hint of scum.

I'll have to dig through more filters to see if I can get more reads. I have a hard time putting much stock into my D1 reads with the level of fluff posts and pressure plays, but I'll keep posting about what is standing out to me.


FF is so clearly town it's unreal that you think he's neutral/slightly scummy.


What makes him clearly town to you?


I really can't say exactly due to ongoing game. Scum FF posts often, but much less poignantly. Read some of his previous scum games and compare that to p4 of his filter here.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 03 2015 19:40 GMT
#468
So tictock, I'm enjoying myself outside reading. I'm not going to show my list of people right now but i read you town atm. I really like that you're not tunneling me and questioning the ezpz town reads on me. That shows you're looking at the bigger picture, imo.
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 03 2015 19:52 GMT
#469
On May 04 2015 01:58 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 01:54 ritoky wrote:
On May 04 2015 01:46 Superbia wrote:
Ritoky you want to share your scum reads so far or do you just wanna chill and see for a little?


maybe scott and maybe shining atm are my top 2. not particularly firm on either. am moreso looking for towns right now.

i think me, ff, -c- are pretty much town. then superbia, and prp are 2nd tier town for now.


I like shining as scum too. I'm undecided on scott. I had him as town early on. I'm decently sure -c- is town here as well. Undecided on prp, but I liked his initial thoughts. Also agreed on FF being town.


On May 04 2015 02:03 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 01:59 ritoky wrote:
On May 04 2015 01:55 Superbia wrote:
On May 04 2015 01:48 ritoky wrote:
On May 03 2015 19:58 Superbia wrote:
Rest of your reads are pretty fluffy.


while i agree with you that the majority of that opening post is meh at best, his scott read is good. you don't seem to mention it as having any value. why? if you disagree, tell me bout it m8.


The scott read was okay at best. I don't see how it is very alignment indicative. Did scott really blindly trust me? I don't know. It's not entirely clear to me what scott did that lead to the decision to vote HtS, it was pretty quiet after I thought I caught the slip. To me it felt like there was a bit of confusion from scott's part on what was actually happening. I would like to hear some more from scott on his thought process, but I don't find his vote on HtS particularly alignment indicative.


it reminded me of how i lynched mafia on day 1 in hearthstone mafia. someone gave a piss poor and inaccurate read on day 1. and then another player immediately agreed with it and helped push it as an attempt to pocket the person who made the read and get in on the ground floor of a lynch. i looked into the accuracy of the read/push and it was complete garbage. in that situation, the guy who follows the garbage read is usually more likely scum than the person making it. that was the case in hearthstone. and i think i poorly explained this one, rip me.


Yeah, maybe. I thought he was decently townie before any of that though. I also thought that the interactions between scott and the shining shady (iirc). Felt like at least one of them trusted the other one too easily (and maybe some pocketing going on).


I think I found our first scum here, guys.

I just can't understand the town motivation here. I'm scum. Undecided on Scott. But our interactions were shady. Too much easy trusting and maybe pocketing. But I'm suspicious of Scott? So how am I pocketing?

This leads to Super NOT BEING INTERESTED IN A SCOTT LYNCH.

WHICH LEADS TO HIM GETTING ON THE SL WAGON. Wtf bro? I'm scum, right? Why are you voting on MY wagon? This could be an attempt to save scummate Scott.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 03 2015 19:55 GMT
#470
On May 04 2015 04:52 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 01:58 Superbia wrote:
On May 04 2015 01:54 ritoky wrote:
On May 04 2015 01:46 Superbia wrote:
Ritoky you want to share your scum reads so far or do you just wanna chill and see for a little?


maybe scott and maybe shining atm are my top 2. not particularly firm on either. am moreso looking for towns right now.

i think me, ff, -c- are pretty much town. then superbia, and prp are 2nd tier town for now.


I like shining as scum too. I'm undecided on scott. I had him as town early on. I'm decently sure -c- is town here as well. Undecided on prp, but I liked his initial thoughts. Also agreed on FF being town.


Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 02:03 Superbia wrote:
On May 04 2015 01:59 ritoky wrote:
On May 04 2015 01:55 Superbia wrote:
On May 04 2015 01:48 ritoky wrote:
On May 03 2015 19:58 Superbia wrote:
Rest of your reads are pretty fluffy.


while i agree with you that the majority of that opening post is meh at best, his scott read is good. you don't seem to mention it as having any value. why? if you disagree, tell me bout it m8.


The scott read was okay at best. I don't see how it is very alignment indicative. Did scott really blindly trust me? I don't know. It's not entirely clear to me what scott did that lead to the decision to vote HtS, it was pretty quiet after I thought I caught the slip. To me it felt like there was a bit of confusion from scott's part on what was actually happening. I would like to hear some more from scott on his thought process, but I don't find his vote on HtS particularly alignment indicative.


it reminded me of how i lynched mafia on day 1 in hearthstone mafia. someone gave a piss poor and inaccurate read on day 1. and then another player immediately agreed with it and helped push it as an attempt to pocket the person who made the read and get in on the ground floor of a lynch. i looked into the accuracy of the read/push and it was complete garbage. in that situation, the guy who follows the garbage read is usually more likely scum than the person making it. that was the case in hearthstone. and i think i poorly explained this one, rip me.


Yeah, maybe. I thought he was decently townie before any of that though. I also thought that the interactions between scott and the shining shady (iirc). Felt like at least one of them trusted the other one too easily (and maybe some pocketing going on).


I think I found our first scum here, guys.

I just can't understand the town motivation here. I'm scum. Undecided on Scott. But our interactions were shady. Too much easy trusting and maybe pocketing. But I'm suspicious of Scott? So how am I pocketing?

This leads to Super NOT BEING INTERESTED IN A SCOTT LYNCH.

WHICH LEADS TO HIM GETTING ON THE SL WAGON. Wtf bro? I'm scum, right? Why are you voting on MY wagon? This could be an attempt to save scummate Scott.


Thanks, for pointing this one out.
Was just thinking that I want to see more stuff from you, since you are kinda null atm.
Was also just thinking of rereading Superbia.
And reread scott31337 's filter:
Pointed out two vets he was keeping an eye on. Then I see nothing helpful till the push from -celestial-. Whole bunch of bad responses to that. Does a list post after that, as if to appear as he was helping town.
So I currently have a pretty strong scum read here.

If anyone has more insight into scott's play that might convince me otherwise, please feel free to do so.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 03 2015 19:56 GMT
#471
Like.

How do you scum mee, null/claim you town someone early in Scott, claim you don't want to lynch him and there was possible pocketing between us, THEN VOTE WITH US?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
May 03 2015 19:58 GMT
#472
On May 04 2015 04:56 The Shining wrote:
Like.

How do you scum mee, null/claim you town someone early in Scott, claim you don't want to lynch him and there was possible pocketing between us, THEN VOTE WITH US?


Don't really care who's voting on SL at the moment? I just want to know more about his alignment.
Minimal effort.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 03 2015 19:58 GMT
#473
Finished my personal obligations for today - knackered, but nonetheless, reading the thread and catching up.

Any pertinent issues that need focused on in the meantime?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
May 03 2015 20:04 GMT
#474
On May 04 2015 04:58 Half the Sky wrote:
Finished my personal obligations for today - knackered, but nonetheless, reading the thread and catching up.

Any pertinent issues that need focused on in the meantime?


Ya. Who are your team mates?
Minimal effort.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 03 2015 20:07 GMT
#475
Superbia, lol?

Pages 8-9 - really don't like either of Superbia's or prp's entrances. There's sarcasm on the people (Scott and Shining) whose posts they were picking on - it appears like they are making something out of nothing.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 03 2015 20:19 GMT
#476
Through page 13 -

Really not liking Superbia at all. I'm seeing a lot of questions which is okay, but no preliminary conclusions from them, not yet. The vote on me was pure policy, and generally a vet like him would go policy (on anyone) only if there was a total lack of scumreads. Pressure voting is okay, but this goes back to my first sentence, no conclusions from the questions he has asked. If he's concluded people look townie and then wants to policy vote, then that's another issue. That doesn't appear to be the case from what I read.

I've yet to play with Scott as town (or observe him as town) as scum I recall a lot of his arguments being contrived. He feels natural so far.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
May 03 2015 20:23 GMT
#477
Both Superbia and The Shining made some eyebrow raising early game plays, but they appear to be contributing now and I can easily see the early game stuff being sillyness or just attempts at pressure. No real reads on them.

I'm getting pretty strong town vibes from y0su, disformation, and ritoky. I really like disformation's attempts to poke and ask questions. y0su is my weakest read of these 3, but feels like a solid town.

Everyone else... well there simply isn't enough out of prplhz or sicklucker to really go off of. Not much to go off of Stutters695 either, another person who states he "doesn't do day 1" which is pretty meh but NAI.

Pretty much all I got for now.

I can take that responsibility.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 03 2015 20:26 GMT
#478
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ask questions about whoever I have to shower and prepare for work
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
May 03 2015 20:28 GMT
#479
Where's that tictock read coming from?
Minimal effort.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 03 2015 20:37 GMT
#480
On May 04 2015 05:23 Tictock wrote:
I'm getting pretty strong town vibes from y0su, disformation, and ritoky. I really like disformation's attempts to poke and ask questions. y0su is my weakest read of these 3, but feels like a solid town.


Can you define what you mean by "vibes" particularly with y0su and ritoky? Do you mean a tone read (which to my understanding most consider weak) or was there a particular quote/page/interaction that solidifies them as town?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
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