• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 04:22
CEST 10:22
KST 17:22
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies18Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview2herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026)5Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview5[ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course12
Community News
Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League0Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double0Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results2Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !18
StarCraft 2
General
herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists
Tourneys
Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League GSL Code S Season 2 (2026) GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 527 Hell Train The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 526 Rubber and Glue Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
25 Years Since Brood War Patch 1.08 vespene.gg — BW replays in browser (Spoiler) ASL21 Winner's Interview [ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies UA StarCraft: Mawin (T) vs hanniGan (P) Showmatch
Tourneys
[ASL21] Grand Finals Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Muta micro map competition [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV ZeroSpace Megathread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Trading/Investing Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software)
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Esports Organizations: Raisi…
TrAiDoS
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1352 users

Newbie Student Mafia IX - Page 22

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 20 21 22 23 24 107 Next
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
May 03 2015 17:32 GMT
#421
On May 04 2015 02:30 scott31337 wrote:
So I jumped a bit to conclusions with HtS - I actually thought that QT information was spilled - I did put a vote in this thread and by the time I found out about the vote thread - I reread her pregame filter with both D1 excuses - from April 25th and from May 1st. There was no need to vote her in the voting thread. I've voted SL for now, he's still at the bottom of my list. I've caught up in the thread - I was about to ask Ritoky about his prplhz read but he explained this already.



Did you read HtS's filter before you put down your vote?
Minimal effort.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 03 2015 17:33 GMT
#422
On May 04 2015 02:30 y0su wrote:
This WIFOM (which I had to look up) is killing me

out of curiosity, how often do d1 lynches work out?

I assume we'll have a lot more to go by on d2 when scum have made a definitive move?

d1 lynches on TL are more successful than other sites from what I've gathered. Probably has something to do with the bad-busing-syndrome over here.

I'd prefer if you moved away from general strategy and toward commenting on actual players, please.
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 03 2015 17:34 GMT
#423
oh, I meant to call it mad-busing-syndrome, oh well
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 03 2015 17:41 GMT
#424
well, that's the problem, look at the biggest back and forth we've had: -c- vs scott.

-c- came in with what I feel was a very bold 1st post (list) that bugged me. why would he pick 3 scum out of the active players and and let others slide just because he didn't have a read (afk/low post count)?

he had some decent points, but was it all to put on pressure or to start swaying people?

without experience, it doesn't feel like something town would do (and this is -c-'s 2nd game afaik)

that followed into the rather aggressive finger pointing with scott.

I had a weird feel from him from the start and non of what -c- said helped him... but again it just feels like "an easy target" to try to get people to bandwagon.

...but all that leaves me is not wanting to vote for either one (yet).
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 03 2015 17:42 GMT
#425
but i'm curious why you don't want to comment as much on general strategy in a newb game? instead of just trying to get info out of us?
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 03 2015 17:48 GMT
#426
Talking about basic concepts like "are day 1 lynches usually successful?" is something you could talk about with your coach and only serves to add fluff posts to the game. I'm not saying I won't try to help, I'm just more interested in finding scum than talking about mechanics.

That being said:
I actually like your thought process y0su. From the finger pointing, does anyone (not limited to -c- and scott) seem to be actively pushing an agenda?
An agenda can be anything from causing confusion to egging people on and anything in-between that could prevent town from acting rationally.

Thinking about how you feel about people is part of scumhunting but at some point you are going to need to draw some kind of conclusion from your feelings. Where did the finger pointing lead? Could you see -c- and scott as teammates arguing to spam up the thread? Did you notice anyone on the sidelines prolonging the argument?
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
May 03 2015 17:49 GMT
#427
On May 04 2015 02:32 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 02:30 scott31337 wrote:
So I jumped a bit to conclusions with HtS - I actually thought that QT information was spilled - I did put a vote in this thread and by the time I found out about the vote thread - I reread her pregame filter with both D1 excuses - from April 25th and from May 1st. There was no need to vote her in the voting thread. I've voted SL for now, he's still at the bottom of my list. I've caught up in the thread - I was about to ask Ritoky about his prplhz read but he explained this already.



Did you read HtS's filter before you put down your vote?


No I did not - She hadn't posted anything in the game - I didn't think of her pre-game filter until it was mentioned. Then I saw the April 25th excuse and stopped there the first time - voted since I thought it was TMI - It was noted it was her May 1st post about being AFK instead. The information made sense, so I let it go.


THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 03 2015 17:49 GMT
#428
Oh, I mentioned it to explain myself but don't talk about coaching in-thread. It's no bueno
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 03 2015 17:50 GMT
#429
Just a couple quick things before I go out for a meal.


On May 03 2015 23:08 Superbia wrote:
Celestial, you are a meta-esque player, correct? I.e. you prefer to get reads based on the meta-game of that player.


No I don't trust meta reads too much but I'll use them if I absolutely have to and have nothing else to go on. Though I much prefer meta reads on players who people have actually played with rather than just studying their game (because the "feel" of actually playing with them can be significant).


Current thoughts are that Superbia is still pretty dirty in my eyes. But is actually making a reasonable contribution now, though I dislike the evasiveness with respect to scott. I'm still pretty sure is scum but with a fairly hefty effort I could maybe be convinced otherwise.

scott is either playing a terrible, terrible town or is outright scum. And I doubt at this point that anything at all will convince me otherwise.

The push onto sicklucker is eh to me. I don't see any evidence of scum behaviour there and the main driving force is Superbia, who I have deep suspicions over, for reasons that for some reason he doesn't want to explain. I don't think it'd be the worst lynch in the world but I also don't think it'll help us much. I'd be very surprised if SL flipped mafia honestly; possible but it seems extremely unlikely.


On May 04 2015 02:41 y0su wrote:
-c- came in with what I feel was a very bold 1st post (list) that bugged me. why would he pick 3 scum out of the active players and and let others slide just because he didn't have a read (afk/low post count)?


The others slide until tomorrow. Then we can start looking to see who is still inactive and which out of them are possibly red. Its kinda hard to draw a conclusion off anyone when they've not posted anything yet.

Lynching inactives is a valid play if you have nothing better to go on but in my view we do have something better to go on. My mind would literally be blown if scott flips anything other than the deepest crimson.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 03 2015 17:50 GMT
#430
On May 04 2015 02:49 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 02:32 Superbia wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:30 scott31337 wrote:
So I jumped a bit to conclusions with HtS - I actually thought that QT information was spilled - I did put a vote in this thread and by the time I found out about the vote thread - I reread her pregame filter with both D1 excuses - from April 25th and from May 1st. There was no need to vote her in the voting thread. I've voted SL for now, he's still at the bottom of my list. I've caught up in the thread - I was about to ask Ritoky about his prplhz read but he explained this already.



Did you read HtS's filter before you put down your vote?


No I did not - She hadn't posted anything in the game - I didn't think of her pre-game filter until it was mentioned. Then I saw the April 25th excuse and stopped there the first time - voted since I thought it was TMI - It was noted it was her May 1st post about being AFK instead. The information made sense, so I let it go.



I just did a dab so excuse me if I'm being dumb but can you elaborate on this bolded statement?
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 03 2015 17:51 GMT
#431
lynching inactives is such an OMGUS.net play.


+ Show Spoiler +
Everyone is inactive over there
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
May 03 2015 17:58 GMT
#432
Celestial, what do you think of Ritoky at this moment? What do you think of the fact that Ritoky's reads line up with mine?
Minimal effort.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 03 2015 18:02 GMT
#433
the thought of -c- and scott being teammates crossed my mind doesn't feel right (experience might tell me otherwise).

so, not knowing which way to flip a coin on them... (and I'll definitely reread that bit to look for engagement from others)

Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 03 2015 18:06 GMT
#434
-c- you seem really confident for being so new
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 03 2015 18:21 GMT
#435
On May 04 2015 02:58 Superbia wrote:
Celestial, what do you think of Ritoky at this moment? What do you think of the fact that Ritoky's reads line up with mine?


Jury still out. I still think he's looked pretty scummy but he's been getting better and he was, after all, my weakest scum read in the first place.

The reads lining up isn't alignment indicative. Could be collusion, could be two people of either side coming up with the same thing, could be sheeping influence from the thread.


On May 04 2015 03:02 y0su wrote:
the thought of -c- and scott being teammates crossed my mind doesn't feel right (experience might tell me otherwise)


I know you have no reason to believe my word on whether or not I'm on a team with scott but if I was on his team I wouldn't have bussed him so early and so quickly.


On May 04 2015 03:06 Fecalfeast wrote:
-c- you seem really confident for being so new


As I mentioned in my last game I've played this quite a lot with people I've been in plays with (its a common team building and warm up activity in rehearsals). Plus I've played the SC2 mod. So I'm pretty comfortable with the game in general, just not the forum format in particular.


On a side note unless we seriously get some solid reads out of Stutters695 soon I'm going to start scumming him just for completely ignoring my repeated requests for sets of reads.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 03 2015 18:21 GMT
#436
by the way, i'm glad you "like the way I think" but i note there isn't any agreement or disagreement voiced
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 03 2015 18:22 GMT
#437
Now I'm off out for a meal. See you guys later.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 03 2015 18:25 GMT
#438
-c- why is it that necessary to "check-in and out" ?
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 03 2015 18:29 GMT
#439
On May 04 2015 03:21 y0su wrote:
by the way, i'm glad you "like the way I think" but i note there isn't any agreement or disagreement voiced

OK there it is, townread for you. I think scott is more likely scum than -c- but I'm honestly watching sc2 so I'm not filtering anything right now
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
May 03 2015 18:30 GMT
#440
On May 04 2015 02:50 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 02:49 scott31337 wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:32 Superbia wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:30 scott31337 wrote:
So I jumped a bit to conclusions with HtS - I actually thought that QT information was spilled - I did put a vote in this thread and by the time I found out about the vote thread - I reread her pregame filter with both D1 excuses - from April 25th and from May 1st. There was no need to vote her in the voting thread. I've voted SL for now, he's still at the bottom of my list. I've caught up in the thread - I was about to ask Ritoky about his prplhz read but he explained this already.



Did you read HtS's filter before you put down your vote?


No I did not - She hadn't posted anything in the game - I didn't think of her pre-game filter until it was mentioned. Then I saw the April 25th excuse and stopped there the first time - voted since I thought it was TMI - It was noted it was her May 1st post about being AFK instead. The information made sense, so I let it go.



I just did a dab so excuse me if I'm being dumb but can you elaborate on this bolded statement?


From here -

On May 03 2015 09:30 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2015 09:28 The Shining wrote:
He did ask if you were the obs dude, as well.

As for HTS, I'm slightly hesitant there. That's pure policy to me. It's late for her and it's the weekend. She said she'd pick it up tomorrow.


Rofl. Where did she say that?


HtS had not posted since the game started - so I (and Superbia) thought this was TMI from the Scum QT and slipped - that she posted she wouldn't be around there and not here. But as we all know now, it was from pre-game messages.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Prev 1 20 21 22 23 24 107 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 38m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 141
StarCraft: Brood War
Hyuk 1236
Killer 731
firebathero 290
Larva 246
Mind 118
Hm[arnc] 27
IntoTheRainbow 6
ajuk12(nOOB) 4
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm131
League of Legends
JimRising 550
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1758
olofmeister634
Other Games
ceh9718
RuFF_SC243
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 36
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
Universe Titan Cup
2h 38m
Rogue vs Percival
Wardi Open
3h 38m
Monday Night Weeklies
7h 38m
Replay Cast
15h 38m
Kung Fu Cup
1d 2h
GSL
2 days
herO vs Classic
Cure vs Clem
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
GSL
3 days
Maru vs SHIN
Zoun vs Rogue
WardiTV Spring Champion…
3 days
SKillous vs Strange
Lambo vs Strange
Ryung vs Strange
Lambo vs Ryung
Ryung vs SKillous
Lambo vs SKillous
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Maestros of the Game
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Lambo vs SHIN
Solar vs Rogue
herO vs Clem
IPSL
5 days
ZZZero vs WorsT
Julia vs eOnzErG
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
IPSL
6 days
Dragon vs Artosis
dxtr13 vs Hawk
BSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 21
2026 GSL S1
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

2026 KK StarCraft Pro League
BSL Season 22
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
KK 2v2 League Season 1
YSL S3
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
SCTL 2026 Spring
WardiTV Spring 2026
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: King of Kings
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
Bounty Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.