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On May 05 2015 21:01 Xatalos wrote:
I guess Yamato didn't bother to do anything after all.
Yes. We should probably just keep lynching him for now.
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On May 05 2015 21:44 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2015 21:30 indignant wrote:On May 05 2015 16:52 Breshke wrote:On May 05 2015 15:29 indignant wrote:On May 05 2015 13:00 Breshke wrote:On May 05 2015 12:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On May 05 2015 12:41 Breshke wrote:On May 05 2015 12:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On May 05 2015 12:35 Breshke wrote:On May 05 2015 12:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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As opposed to what? Like even compare it to your supossed role. You can move players in the playerlist and change the fight. Ls can change ONE persons vote ONE time I can't change the fight. I can arrange a fight between the top and bottom players of the list. My power sucks ass too lmao. It has the possibility of being super antitown. Does your fight not replace the fight chosen by the promoter? No? Your right that does suck it is totally not what i thought it was. I get now why you didn't understand how to cancel the fight. Also if shouldnt chez have taken damage if he targeted HF with anything. Therefore i believe hf being removed had nothing to do with chez. Does not make any sense. The whole post. pity To explain: if you thought Obi could change the main fight why did you never scream for his lynch? Plenty of reason to do so in that case. The chezinu part is just stupid. Why would chezinu claim this if he didn't do it? Why? I could change the fight should I have been lynched? There was also the stipulation that he had to make the top and bottom on the player list fight. Why wouldn't chezinu claim it? Shits and giggles i assume
Because 1) Obi did not change the fight or offer to do so when marv and hf were chosen. Because the fight was changed to them in the first place. Etc.
About chezinu: because there probably is a reason for hf disappearing? If he doesn't return (how does chezinu know this if he didn't do it?) we lynch chez. If someone else claims responsibility we lynch chez.
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On May 05 2015 21:54 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2015 10:12 Damdred wrote:
Tinfoil says xata is the hidden Scum honestly.
But anyway, rs had 10 dmg needing to be done so had to use 2 6kp shots on him.
Dam takes 3
Shining took 6.
Yamato took 2.
Is that all the dmg mafia shouldnt know how much hp shining rstoul had left so could have used a shit ton on them
I think they had a pretty good idea considering the roles that flipped so far. Also shining said something along the lines of they will finish me tonight. The fact that he was a girl is also a strong indicator.
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On May 05 2015 21:16 Xatalos wrote:This D1 vote situation still slightly points to Yamato being town :/ There's already 3 confirmed scum who voted for Yamato during the day. No scum has been shown to vote for sandroba yet, however. Show nested quote +On April 28 2015 06:59 Half the Sky wrote:Day 1 Vote Countsandroba (9): Holyflare, Xatalos, Holyflare, Holyflare, sicklucker, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, Koshi, yamato77, Stutters695, Holyflare, Breshke, rsoultin, The Shining, indignant yamato77 (6): marvellosity, Vivax, rsoultin, Stutters695, indignant, ObiWanShinobi, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, LightningStrike, Holyflare, Koshi, Koshi, sandroba, Inspector Javert Breshke (2): Koshi, ObiWanShinobi, LightningStrike, Chezinu, sicklucker, Jean Valjean Inpsector Javert (2): ObiWanShinobi, Fecalfeast Holyflare (0): Koshi, Koshi, sandrobarsoultin (1): Fecalfeast, Sepulchre Sepulchre (0): rsoultinLightningStrike (0): BreshkeVivax (0): Inspector Javertmarvellosity (0): Koshi, sicklucker, Inspector Javert, KoshiKoshi (0): Holyflaresicklucker (0): marvellosity, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, VivaxXatalos (0): KoshiNot voted (2): rygart, Damdred, Given the current vote count, sandroba is most likely to be knocked out.The voting thread is located here.
Countdown:
I hate that we are doing the work right now because today is the day all those lazy fuckers should step it up. No excuse not to anymore.
So, about that votecount: It is not correct. I was the last one to vote sandro. Jean and damdred both voted before me. FF also voted yamato at some point btw.
Regardless, what does it tell us? Well, it is only relevant if yamato is town. Which is cool because if yamato doesn't play today we just lynch him and know.
So, let's assume yamato is town. I will also assume without doublechecking that scum knew that at this point in time or earlier the votes weren't actually 9:6 but like 7: 7 or 7:8 depending on the hidden vote/sandros other abilities. So there was hope for sandro since they couldn't know if the townies left would vote yamato or sandro.
So the votes of bats, Obi and Chez still look really really bad. BUT we also know now that Sep was town. So if scum wanted to save sandro they were probably waiting and looking if that really makes sense. -> off wagon people OR people who were on sandro early. Voting sandro late was a bad idea since a switch just can't be justified that well. Not to mention that at this point all late voters are basically confirmed town except for maybe damdred.
sandroba (9): Holyflare, Xatalos, Holyflare, Holyflare, sicklucker, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, Koshi, yamato77, Stutters695, Holyflare, Breshke, rsoultin, The Shining, indignant
yamato77 (6): marvellosity, Vivax, rsoultin, Stutters695, indignant, ObiWanShinobi, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, LightningStrike, Holyflare, Koshi, Koshi, sandroba, Inspector Javert
Breshke (2): Koshi, ObiWanShinobi, LightningStrike, Chezinu, sicklucker, Jean Valjean
Inpsector Javert (2): ObiWanShinobi, Fecalfeast
Holyflare (0): Koshi, Koshi, sandroba
rsoultin (1): Fecalfeast, Sepulchre
Sepulchre (0): rsoultin
LightningStrike (0): Breshke
Vivax (0): Inspector Javert
marvellosity (0): Koshi, sicklucker, Inspector Javert, Koshi
Koshi (0): Holyflare
sicklucker (0): marvellosity, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, Vivax
Xatalos (0): Koshi
Not voted (2): rygart, Damdred
That's not very enlightening because it only leads to the same suspects we had either way.
Chez voted off wagon, no real effort to figure out the game.
Obi voted off wagon, actively tried to push the lynch away from sandroba multiple times. 2 really fucking suspicious reads on people that are now confirmed scum (sandro, Vivax). Relatively low effort.
Bats voted the wrong wagon. Personally I think the timing is not as suspicious as it looks though. Play generally more or less in line with town meta. There is the argument about how his vote for yamato makes no sense considering that Vivax and marv were on the same wagon though.
LS voted the wrong wagon. Could just be sheeping though. Don't know what to make of him.
So, who could be scum on the sandro wagon?
Xatalos: Really doubt it. You can start worrying if he survives like 3 more nights but otherwise this guy is town or at least not scum.
SL: Was awfully certain about sandroba. Could be a bus - he does that day1 all the time. His strong push for sandro is generally more or less the thing that makes him townread. Did not put in any effort during the last days. Some other minor reasons to townread him though. Like making FF heal me.
Stutters: Could be scum. Since sep was town his yolo play is really really scumfavored. Low effort too.
Breshke: Probably greenchecked+cancelled the fight. Very low effort though and we still had no mafia role that fucks with copchecks flip even though there are tons of cops.
Damdred: Confirmed rb at this point - sadly not confirmed town. Rbs night 1 are still very weird. Hammered sandro though. And marv said he had a strong townread on him/defended him multiple times which is the only reason I have been so lenient on him. I did not understand that read at the time at all. Either marv has some sort of godread on him or he same checked him with SL/Breshke.
So, I think my conclusion is that at least for today I don't want to touch Xatalos, Damdred and Sicklucker. Maybe we let chez live for another day to see what's up with HF.
The rest should step it up if they do not want to be part of the fight today.
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On May 05 2015 22:54 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay just woke up and JAT and I are at the bottom of the player list fyi guys.
So you are telling me you jumped on the list again and have no idea why?
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On May 05 2015 23:12 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2015 22:59 indignant wrote:On May 05 2015 21:16 Xatalos wrote:This D1 vote situation still slightly points to Yamato being town :/ There's already 3 confirmed scum who voted for Yamato during the day. No scum has been shown to vote for sandroba yet, however. On April 28 2015 06:59 Half the Sky wrote:Day 1 Vote Countsandroba (9): Holyflare, Xatalos, Holyflare, Holyflare, sicklucker, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, Koshi, yamato77, Stutters695, Holyflare, Breshke, rsoultin, The Shining, indignant yamato77 (6): marvellosity, Vivax, rsoultin, Stutters695, indignant, ObiWanShinobi, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, LightningStrike, Holyflare, Koshi, Koshi, sandroba, Inspector Javert Breshke (2): Koshi, ObiWanShinobi, LightningStrike, Chezinu, sicklucker, Jean Valjean Inpsector Javert (2): ObiWanShinobi, Fecalfeast Holyflare (0): Koshi, Koshi, sandrobarsoultin (1): Fecalfeast, Sepulchre Sepulchre (0): rsoultinLightningStrike (0): BreshkeVivax (0): Inspector Javertmarvellosity (0): Koshi, sicklucker, Inspector Javert, KoshiKoshi (0): Holyflaresicklucker (0): marvellosity, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, VivaxXatalos (0): KoshiNot voted (2): rygart, Damdred, Given the current vote count, sandroba is most likely to be knocked out.The voting thread is located here.
Countdown: I hate that we are doing the work right now because today is the day all those lazy fuckers should step it up. No excuse not to anymore. So, about that votecount: It is not correct. I was the last one to vote sandro. Jean and damdred both voted before me. FF also voted yamato at some point btw. Regardless, what does it tell us? Well, it is only relevant if yamato is town. Which is cool because if yamato doesn't play today we just lynch him and know. So, let's assume yamato is town. I will also assume without doublechecking that scum knew that at this point in time or earlier the votes weren't actually 9:6 but like 7: 7 or 7:8 depending on the hidden vote/sandros other abilities. So there was hope for sandro since they couldn't know if the townies left would vote yamato or sandro. So the votes of bats, Obi and Chez still look really really bad. BUT we also know now that Sep was town. So if scum wanted to save sandro they were probably waiting and looking if that really makes sense. -> off wagon people OR people who were on sandro early. Voting sandro late was a bad idea since a switch just can't be justified that well. Not to mention that at this point all late voters are basically confirmed town except for maybe damdred. sandroba (9): Holyflare, Xatalos, Holyflare, Holyflare, sicklucker, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, Koshi, yamato77, Stutters695, Holyflare, Breshke, rsoultin, The Shining, indignant yamato77 (6): marvellosity, Vivax, rsoultin, Stutters695, indignant, ObiWanShinobi, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, LightningStrike, Holyflare, Koshi, Koshi, sandroba, Inspector Javert Breshke (2): Koshi, ObiWanShinobi, LightningStrike, Chezinu, sicklucker, Jean Valjean Inpsector Javert (2): ObiWanShinobi, Fecalfeast Holyflare (0): Koshi, Koshi, sandrobarsoultin (1): Fecalfeast, Sepulchre Sepulchre (0): rsoultinLightningStrike (0): BreshkeVivax (0): Inspector Javertmarvellosity (0): Koshi, sicklucker, Inspector Javert, KoshiKoshi (0): Holyflaresicklucker (0): marvellosity, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, VivaxXatalos (0): KoshiNot voted (2): rygart, Damdred That's not very enlightening because it only leads to the same suspects we had either way. Chez voted off wagon, no real effort to figure out the game. Obi voted off wagon, actively tried to push the lynch away from sandroba multiple times. 2 really fucking suspicious reads on people that are now confirmed scum (sandro, Vivax). Relatively low effort. Bats voted the wrong wagon. Personally I think the timing is not as suspicious as it looks though. Play generally more or less in line with town meta. There is the argument about how his vote for yamato makes no sense considering that Vivax and marv were on the same wagon though. LS voted the wrong wagon. Could just be sheeping though. Don't know what to make of him. So, who could be scum on the sandro wagon? Xatalos: Really doubt it. You can start worrying if he survives like 3 more nights but otherwise this guy is town or at least not scum. SL: Was awfully certain about sandroba. Could be a bus - he does that day1 all the time. His strong push for sandro is generally more or less the thing that makes him townread. Did not put in any effort during the last days. Some other minor reasons to townread him though. Like making FF heal me. Stutters: Could be scum. Since sep was town his yolo play is really really scumfavored. Low effort too. Breshke: Probably greenchecked+cancelled the fight. Very low effort though and we still had no mafia role that fucks with copchecks flip even though there are tons of cops. Damdred: Confirmed rb at this point - sadly not confirmed town. Rbs night 1 are still very weird. Hammered sandro though. And marv said he had a strong townread on him/defended him multiple times which is the only reason I have been so lenient on him. I did not understand that read at the time at all. Either marv has some sort of godread on him or he same checked him with SL/Breshke. So, I think my conclusion is that at least for today I don't want to touch Xatalos, Damdred and Sicklucker. Maybe we let chez live for another day to see what's up with HF. The rest should step it up if they do not want to be part of the fight today. I agreed with someone that we should lynch Yamato because he wasn't doing much Day 1 although he did start to look townie towards EoD.
I remember you saying yamatos eod/night1 was good (it really wasn't). Why did you not unvote him then though?
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On May 05 2015 23:13 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2015 23:12 LightningStrike wrote:On May 05 2015 22:59 indignant wrote:On May 05 2015 21:16 Xatalos wrote:This D1 vote situation still slightly points to Yamato being town :/ There's already 3 confirmed scum who voted for Yamato during the day. No scum has been shown to vote for sandroba yet, however. On April 28 2015 06:59 Half the Sky wrote:Day 1 Vote Countsandroba (9): Holyflare, Xatalos, Holyflare, Holyflare, sicklucker, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, Koshi, yamato77, Stutters695, Holyflare, Breshke, rsoultin, The Shining, indignant yamato77 (6): marvellosity, Vivax, rsoultin, Stutters695, indignant, ObiWanShinobi, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, LightningStrike, Holyflare, Koshi, Koshi, sandroba, Inspector Javert Breshke (2): Koshi, ObiWanShinobi, LightningStrike, Chezinu, sicklucker, Jean Valjean Inpsector Javert (2): ObiWanShinobi, Fecalfeast Holyflare (0): Koshi, Koshi, sandrobarsoultin (1): Fecalfeast, Sepulchre Sepulchre (0): rsoultinLightningStrike (0): BreshkeVivax (0): Inspector Javertmarvellosity (0): Koshi, sicklucker, Inspector Javert, KoshiKoshi (0): Holyflaresicklucker (0): marvellosity, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, VivaxXatalos (0): KoshiNot voted (2): rygart, Damdred, Given the current vote count, sandroba is most likely to be knocked out.The voting thread is located here.
Countdown: I hate that we are doing the work right now because today is the day all those lazy fuckers should step it up. No excuse not to anymore. So, about that votecount: It is not correct. I was the last one to vote sandro. Jean and damdred both voted before me. FF also voted yamato at some point btw. Regardless, what does it tell us? Well, it is only relevant if yamato is town. Which is cool because if yamato doesn't play today we just lynch him and know. So, let's assume yamato is town. I will also assume without doublechecking that scum knew that at this point in time or earlier the votes weren't actually 9:6 but like 7: 7 or 7:8 depending on the hidden vote/sandros other abilities. So there was hope for sandro since they couldn't know if the townies left would vote yamato or sandro. So the votes of bats, Obi and Chez still look really really bad. BUT we also know now that Sep was town. So if scum wanted to save sandro they were probably waiting and looking if that really makes sense. -> off wagon people OR people who were on sandro early. Voting sandro late was a bad idea since a switch just can't be justified that well. Not to mention that at this point all late voters are basically confirmed town except for maybe damdred. sandroba (9): Holyflare, Xatalos, Holyflare, Holyflare, sicklucker, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, Koshi, yamato77, Stutters695, Holyflare, Breshke, rsoultin, The Shining, indignant yamato77 (6): marvellosity, Vivax, rsoultin, Stutters695, indignant, ObiWanShinobi, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, LightningStrike, Holyflare, Koshi, Koshi, sandroba, Inspector Javert Breshke (2): Koshi, ObiWanShinobi, LightningStrike, Chezinu, sicklucker, Jean Valjean Inpsector Javert (2): ObiWanShinobi, Fecalfeast Holyflare (0): Koshi, Koshi, sandrobarsoultin (1): Fecalfeast, Sepulchre Sepulchre (0): rsoultinLightningStrike (0): BreshkeVivax (0): Inspector Javertmarvellosity (0): Koshi, sicklucker, Inspector Javert, KoshiKoshi (0): Holyflaresicklucker (0): marvellosity, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, VivaxXatalos (0): KoshiNot voted (2): rygart, Damdred That's not very enlightening because it only leads to the same suspects we had either way. Chez voted off wagon, no real effort to figure out the game. Obi voted off wagon, actively tried to push the lynch away from sandroba multiple times. 2 really fucking suspicious reads on people that are now confirmed scum (sandro, Vivax). Relatively low effort. Bats voted the wrong wagon. Personally I think the timing is not as suspicious as it looks though. Play generally more or less in line with town meta. There is the argument about how his vote for yamato makes no sense considering that Vivax and marv were on the same wagon though. LS voted the wrong wagon. Could just be sheeping though. Don't know what to make of him. So, who could be scum on the sandro wagon? Xatalos: Really doubt it. You can start worrying if he survives like 3 more nights but otherwise this guy is town or at least not scum. SL: Was awfully certain about sandroba. Could be a bus - he does that day1 all the time. His strong push for sandro is generally more or less the thing that makes him townread. Did not put in any effort during the last days. Some other minor reasons to townread him though. Like making FF heal me. Stutters: Could be scum. Since sep was town his yolo play is really really scumfavored. Low effort too. Breshke: Probably greenchecked+cancelled the fight. Very low effort though and we still had no mafia role that fucks with copchecks flip even though there are tons of cops. Damdred: Confirmed rb at this point - sadly not confirmed town. Rbs night 1 are still very weird. Hammered sandro though. And marv said he had a strong townread on him/defended him multiple times which is the only reason I have been so lenient on him. I did not understand that read at the time at all. Either marv has some sort of godread on him or he same checked him with SL/Breshke. So, I think my conclusion is that at least for today I don't want to touch Xatalos, Damdred and Sicklucker. Maybe we let chez live for another day to see what's up with HF. The rest should step it up if they do not want to be part of the fight today. I agreed with someone that we should lynch Yamato because he wasn't doing much Day 1 although he did start to look townie towards EoD. On top of that I didn't think Sandroba was scum when I had looked in his filter because people were complaining about him.
Why? What about his filter was towny enough to lynch yamato who you say had a good eod over him? And again - do you claim to not know why you moved on the playerlist?
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On May 05 2015 23:25 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2015 23:20 indignant wrote:On May 05 2015 23:13 LightningStrike wrote:On May 05 2015 23:12 LightningStrike wrote:On May 05 2015 22:59 indignant wrote:On May 05 2015 21:16 Xatalos wrote:This D1 vote situation still slightly points to Yamato being town :/ There's already 3 confirmed scum who voted for Yamato during the day. No scum has been shown to vote for sandroba yet, however. On April 28 2015 06:59 Half the Sky wrote:Day 1 Vote Countsandroba (9): Holyflare, Xatalos, Holyflare, Holyflare, sicklucker, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, Koshi, yamato77, Stutters695, Holyflare, Breshke, rsoultin, The Shining, indignant yamato77 (6): marvellosity, Vivax, rsoultin, Stutters695, indignant, ObiWanShinobi, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, LightningStrike, Holyflare, Koshi, Koshi, sandroba, Inspector Javert Breshke (2): Koshi, ObiWanShinobi, LightningStrike, Chezinu, sicklucker, Jean Valjean Inpsector Javert (2): ObiWanShinobi, Fecalfeast Holyflare (0): Koshi, Koshi, sandrobarsoultin (1): Fecalfeast, Sepulchre Sepulchre (0): rsoultinLightningStrike (0): BreshkeVivax (0): Inspector Javertmarvellosity (0): Koshi, sicklucker, Inspector Javert, KoshiKoshi (0): Holyflaresicklucker (0): marvellosity, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, VivaxXatalos (0): KoshiNot voted (2): rygart, Damdred, Given the current vote count, sandroba is most likely to be knocked out.The voting thread is located here.
Countdown: I hate that we are doing the work right now because today is the day all those lazy fuckers should step it up. No excuse not to anymore. So, about that votecount: It is not correct. I was the last one to vote sandro. Jean and damdred both voted before me. FF also voted yamato at some point btw. Regardless, what does it tell us? Well, it is only relevant if yamato is town. Which is cool because if yamato doesn't play today we just lynch him and know. So, let's assume yamato is town. I will also assume without doublechecking that scum knew that at this point in time or earlier the votes weren't actually 9:6 but like 7: 7 or 7:8 depending on the hidden vote/sandros other abilities. So there was hope for sandro since they couldn't know if the townies left would vote yamato or sandro. So the votes of bats, Obi and Chez still look really really bad. BUT we also know now that Sep was town. So if scum wanted to save sandro they were probably waiting and looking if that really makes sense. -> off wagon people OR people who were on sandro early. Voting sandro late was a bad idea since a switch just can't be justified that well. Not to mention that at this point all late voters are basically confirmed town except for maybe damdred. sandroba (9): Holyflare, Xatalos, Holyflare, Holyflare, sicklucker, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, Koshi, yamato77, Stutters695, Holyflare, Breshke, rsoultin, The Shining, indignant yamato77 (6): marvellosity, Vivax, rsoultin, Stutters695, indignant, ObiWanShinobi, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, LightningStrike, Holyflare, Koshi, Koshi, sandroba, Inspector Javert Breshke (2): Koshi, ObiWanShinobi, LightningStrike, Chezinu, sicklucker, Jean Valjean Inpsector Javert (2): ObiWanShinobi, Fecalfeast Holyflare (0): Koshi, Koshi, sandrobarsoultin (1): Fecalfeast, Sepulchre Sepulchre (0): rsoultinLightningStrike (0): BreshkeVivax (0): Inspector Javertmarvellosity (0): Koshi, sicklucker, Inspector Javert, KoshiKoshi (0): Holyflaresicklucker (0): marvellosity, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, VivaxXatalos (0): KoshiNot voted (2): rygart, Damdred That's not very enlightening because it only leads to the same suspects we had either way. Chez voted off wagon, no real effort to figure out the game. Obi voted off wagon, actively tried to push the lynch away from sandroba multiple times. 2 really fucking suspicious reads on people that are now confirmed scum (sandro, Vivax). Relatively low effort. Bats voted the wrong wagon. Personally I think the timing is not as suspicious as it looks though. Play generally more or less in line with town meta. There is the argument about how his vote for yamato makes no sense considering that Vivax and marv were on the same wagon though. LS voted the wrong wagon. Could just be sheeping though. Don't know what to make of him. So, who could be scum on the sandro wagon? Xatalos: Really doubt it. You can start worrying if he survives like 3 more nights but otherwise this guy is town or at least not scum. SL: Was awfully certain about sandroba. Could be a bus - he does that day1 all the time. His strong push for sandro is generally more or less the thing that makes him townread. Did not put in any effort during the last days. Some other minor reasons to townread him though. Like making FF heal me. Stutters: Could be scum. Since sep was town his yolo play is really really scumfavored. Low effort too. Breshke: Probably greenchecked+cancelled the fight. Very low effort though and we still had no mafia role that fucks with copchecks flip even though there are tons of cops. Damdred: Confirmed rb at this point - sadly not confirmed town. Rbs night 1 are still very weird. Hammered sandro though. And marv said he had a strong townread on him/defended him multiple times which is the only reason I have been so lenient on him. I did not understand that read at the time at all. Either marv has some sort of godread on him or he same checked him with SL/Breshke. So, I think my conclusion is that at least for today I don't want to touch Xatalos, Damdred and Sicklucker. Maybe we let chez live for another day to see what's up with HF. The rest should step it up if they do not want to be part of the fight today. I agreed with someone that we should lynch Yamato because he wasn't doing much Day 1 although he did start to look townie towards EoD. On top of that I didn't think Sandroba was scum when I had looked in his filter because people were complaining about him. Why? What about his filter was towny enough to lynch yamato who you say had a good eod over him? And again - do you claim to not know why you moved on the playerlist? I thought Sandroba looked genuine about his posts and it seemed kinda freely posting esp about the hp and the thing about Koshi. I do know know why I got moved up and down the list tbh with you.
Why?
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On May 05 2015 23:35 Damdred wrote:
I'd rather kill bats today I think.
Explain.
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On May 05 2015 23:37 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2015 23:32 indignant wrote:On May 05 2015 23:25 LightningStrike wrote:On May 05 2015 23:20 indignant wrote:On May 05 2015 23:13 LightningStrike wrote:On May 05 2015 23:12 LightningStrike wrote:On May 05 2015 22:59 indignant wrote:On May 05 2015 21:16 Xatalos wrote:This D1 vote situation still slightly points to Yamato being town :/ There's already 3 confirmed scum who voted for Yamato during the day. No scum has been shown to vote for sandroba yet, however. On April 28 2015 06:59 Half the Sky wrote:Day 1 Vote Countsandroba (9): Holyflare, Xatalos, Holyflare, Holyflare, sicklucker, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, Koshi, yamato77, Stutters695, Holyflare, Breshke, rsoultin, The Shining, indignant yamato77 (6): marvellosity, Vivax, rsoultin, Stutters695, indignant, ObiWanShinobi, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, LightningStrike, Holyflare, Koshi, Koshi, sandroba, Inspector Javert Breshke (2): Koshi, ObiWanShinobi, LightningStrike, Chezinu, sicklucker, Jean Valjean Inpsector Javert (2): ObiWanShinobi, Fecalfeast Holyflare (0): Koshi, Koshi, sandrobarsoultin (1): Fecalfeast, Sepulchre Sepulchre (0): rsoultinLightningStrike (0): BreshkeVivax (0): Inspector Javertmarvellosity (0): Koshi, sicklucker, Inspector Javert, KoshiKoshi (0): Holyflaresicklucker (0): marvellosity, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, VivaxXatalos (0): KoshiNot voted (2): rygart, Damdred, Given the current vote count, sandroba is most likely to be knocked out.The voting thread is located here.
Countdown: I hate that we are doing the work right now because today is the day all those lazy fuckers should step it up. No excuse not to anymore. So, about that votecount: It is not correct. I was the last one to vote sandro. Jean and damdred both voted before me. FF also voted yamato at some point btw. Regardless, what does it tell us? Well, it is only relevant if yamato is town. Which is cool because if yamato doesn't play today we just lynch him and know. So, let's assume yamato is town. I will also assume without doublechecking that scum knew that at this point in time or earlier the votes weren't actually 9:6 but like 7: 7 or 7:8 depending on the hidden vote/sandros other abilities. So there was hope for sandro since they couldn't know if the townies left would vote yamato or sandro. So the votes of bats, Obi and Chez still look really really bad. BUT we also know now that Sep was town. So if scum wanted to save sandro they were probably waiting and looking if that really makes sense. -> off wagon people OR people who were on sandro early. Voting sandro late was a bad idea since a switch just can't be justified that well. Not to mention that at this point all late voters are basically confirmed town except for maybe damdred. sandroba (9): Holyflare, Xatalos, Holyflare, Holyflare, sicklucker, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, Koshi, yamato77, Stutters695, Holyflare, Breshke, rsoultin, The Shining, indignant yamato77 (6): marvellosity, Vivax, rsoultin, Stutters695, indignant, ObiWanShinobi, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, LightningStrike, Holyflare, Koshi, Koshi, sandroba, Inspector Javert Breshke (2): Koshi, ObiWanShinobi, LightningStrike, Chezinu, sicklucker, Jean Valjean Inpsector Javert (2): ObiWanShinobi, Fecalfeast Holyflare (0): Koshi, Koshi, sandrobarsoultin (1): Fecalfeast, Sepulchre Sepulchre (0): rsoultinLightningStrike (0): BreshkeVivax (0): Inspector Javertmarvellosity (0): Koshi, sicklucker, Inspector Javert, KoshiKoshi (0): Holyflaresicklucker (0): marvellosity, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, VivaxXatalos (0): KoshiNot voted (2): rygart, Damdred That's not very enlightening because it only leads to the same suspects we had either way. Chez voted off wagon, no real effort to figure out the game. Obi voted off wagon, actively tried to push the lynch away from sandroba multiple times. 2 really fucking suspicious reads on people that are now confirmed scum (sandro, Vivax). Relatively low effort. Bats voted the wrong wagon. Personally I think the timing is not as suspicious as it looks though. Play generally more or less in line with town meta. There is the argument about how his vote for yamato makes no sense considering that Vivax and marv were on the same wagon though. LS voted the wrong wagon. Could just be sheeping though. Don't know what to make of him. So, who could be scum on the sandro wagon? Xatalos: Really doubt it. You can start worrying if he survives like 3 more nights but otherwise this guy is town or at least not scum. SL: Was awfully certain about sandroba. Could be a bus - he does that day1 all the time. His strong push for sandro is generally more or less the thing that makes him townread. Did not put in any effort during the last days. Some other minor reasons to townread him though. Like making FF heal me. Stutters: Could be scum. Since sep was town his yolo play is really really scumfavored. Low effort too. Breshke: Probably greenchecked+cancelled the fight. Very low effort though and we still had no mafia role that fucks with copchecks flip even though there are tons of cops. Damdred: Confirmed rb at this point - sadly not confirmed town. Rbs night 1 are still very weird. Hammered sandro though. And marv said he had a strong townread on him/defended him multiple times which is the only reason I have been so lenient on him. I did not understand that read at the time at all. Either marv has some sort of godread on him or he same checked him with SL/Breshke. So, I think my conclusion is that at least for today I don't want to touch Xatalos, Damdred and Sicklucker. Maybe we let chez live for another day to see what's up with HF. The rest should step it up if they do not want to be part of the fight today. I agreed with someone that we should lynch Yamato because he wasn't doing much Day 1 although he did start to look townie towards EoD. On top of that I didn't think Sandroba was scum when I had looked in his filter because people were complaining about him. Why? What about his filter was towny enough to lynch yamato who you say had a good eod over him? And again - do you claim to not know why you moved on the playerlist? I thought Sandroba looked genuine about his posts and it seemed kinda freely posting esp about the hp and the thing about Koshi. I do know know why I got moved up and down the list tbh with you. Why? I meant I don't know if I have to guess mafia got someone that can move the player list or OWS didn't OWS said he got powers to move the player list around?
OWS claimed to only be able to move peope up not down afaik. Why would they keep moving you around?
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On May 05 2015 23:40 Damdred wrote:
Honestly I already have, I blocked Yamato the kps went through anyway, a 6 man team is kinda doubtful so id rather just lynch another scummy person and see what shinings check tells us
That's not a reason. Then we can also lynch Obi or Chez or LS etc.
On May 05 2015 23:41 Inspector Javert wrote:
I cant think of a single reason I could be mafia. Especially after the commentator thing.
Come on - let's be real. The commentator thing is not alignment indicative in the slightest.
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On May 05 2015 23:44 Damdred wrote:
Btw do we have a screenshot of where players were before hand?
I have a list somewhere.
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On May 05 2015 23:46 Damdred wrote:
Don't want to lynch obi, really close to his town meta atm.
I could listen to chez, ls though
His town and scum meta are really similar. If you want me to listen to you please tell me what you think fits his townmeta and not his scummeta.
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I mean based on gut I would also not lynch Obi first but I can't get over these reads. They felt completely off at the time and now that we know sandro and Vivax are mafia they look even worse.
On April 28 2015 03:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Vivax is now in my townpile for belligerence/his whole "I'm town and this is how we're doing this" attitude that I only see him employ as town.
It's not a super strong read but I have yet to see him to do this a single time as mafia.
On April 28 2015 04:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Jat's meta on sandroba is spot on, and something I thought about while I was in the shower.
Sandroba is a useless sack of uselessness regardless of his alignment.
The Vivax thing was pointed out by HF and me and was not something a townie should think about Vivax at all. The sandro thing is also just really wrong and also scumagenda. A chance to push against the sandro wagon and he immediately jumped on it.
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If scum ever had their hopes up about saving sandro they probably thought I would help them with it.
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On May 05 2015 23:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I've tone read vivax town before for the same reasons.
Sandroba has been trash in every single game I've seen him play.
Nothing suspicious about those reads at all aside from the fact that I was wrong.
That's fine but the reasons you mentioned just did not apply AT ALL this game. And it is generally known that sandroba is a pretty good townplayer most of the time.
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On May 05 2015 23:59 Damdred wrote:
Well you do make sense most of the time obi but as town you do nonsensical things that you wouldn't do as scum. Like town reading two scum partners who will be prone to flip
Scum obi is also not afraid to push scumagenda. And no, it was possible that sandro flipped but if Obi is scum he actively worked against that and Vivax was NOT prone to flip at that point. Townreading him was just another good reason to not push sandro.
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On May 06 2015 00:00 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2015 23:59 indignant wrote:On May 05 2015 23:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I've tone read vivax town before for the same reasons.
Sandroba has been trash in every single game I've seen him play.
Nothing suspicious about those reads at all aside from the fact that I was wrong. That's fine but the reasons you mentioned just did not apply AT ALL this game. And it is generally known that sandroba is a pretty good townplayer most of the time. It's easy to say that now. I have never seen sandroba play a single game properly.
I said all of this pretty much directly after you made those posts.
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I mean I am not absolutely sure about lynching you, Obi. But if you want to help town/if you do not want to be lynched/put into the fight then you better show me a better target with good reasoning.
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On May 06 2015 00:03 Damdred wrote:
Vivax is a sinking ship in this game how hard aligned he was with sandroba though, and his play d1 was lackluster and probably would of been lynched d2 if not for the tracker check anyway.
but that's besides the point.
Yes, it is besides the point because Vivax only became a sinking ship when we lynched sandro which hadn't happened when Obi made those reads.
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