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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 01 2015 18:52 GMT
#4009
You should stop speculating about the kp with imperfect information. Will make stuff more clear tomorrow anyway.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 01 2015 20:03 GMT
#4037
On May 02 2015 04:57 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay guys I was looking through EoD 1 votes and found this interesting:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2015 07:09 Half the Sky wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count

sandroba (10): Holyflare, Xatalos, Holyflare, Holyflare, sicklucker, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, Koshi, yamato77, Stutters695, Breshke, rsoultin, The ShiningJean Valjean, Damdred, indignant
yamato77 (8): marvellosity, Vivax, rsoultin, Stutters695, indignant, ObiWanShinobi, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, LightningStrike, Holyflare, Koshi, [green]Koshi, sandroba (x2), Inspector Javert, Sepulchre
Inpsector Javert (2): ObiWanShinobi, Fecalfeast
Breshke (1): Koshi, ObiWanShinobi, LightningStrike, Chezinu, sicklucker, Jean Valjean
Holyflare (0): Koshi, Koshi, sandroba
rsoultin (0): Fecalfeast, Sepulchre
Sepulchre (0): rsoultin
LightningStrike (0): Breshke
Vivax (0): Inspector Javert
marvellosity (0): Koshi, sicklucker, Inspector Javert, Koshi
Koshi (0): Holyflare
sicklucker (0): marvellosity, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, Vivax
Xatalos (0): Koshi

Not voted (1): rygart

Given the current vote count, sandroba is most likely to be knocked out.
The voting thread is located here.
Countdown:

With FecalFeast vote on bats at EoD 1 when it clear that the lynch is either Sandroba or Yamato it might clear bats because that is a horrible spot to bus a partner in a situation like that. Anyone got better thoughts about the Day 1 votes?


fecalfeast made a throwaway vote and didn't interact with anyone at the deadline afaik, think i mentioned his vote/actions look the worst at the time but it was

a) a cluster fuck
b) who knows what was going on

i'd say it means more that he didn't vote on yamato than anything, it means absolutely nothing about bats alignment. The yamato thing could just be a loss of communication from sandro's vote thing or anything though so meh?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 01 2015 20:12 GMT
#4041
On May 02 2015 05:11 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2015 01:18 Inspector Javert wrote:
On May 02 2015 01:15 marvellosity wrote:
On May 02 2015 01:13 rsoultin wrote:
On May 02 2015 01:12 Inspector Javert wrote:
On May 02 2015 01:04 Xatalos wrote:
It's not just his vote choice. It's the fact that his play went like this:

1) "sandroba is slightly scummy (made a bit less likely since he claimed his approx. HP)"
2) sandroba becomes a major wagon
3) "sandroba is town because he claimed his approx. HP, I won't lynch him"
4) votes for anyone not sandroba

Yeah...


Sandroba had, I thought at the time, 1 small thing going for him. The HP semi claim.

Yamato had, I thought at the time, 0 things going for him.

That's why I voted how I voted.

I put marv and xata in the amateur fight d1.


...why?

he wanted 2 of the most obvious townies to lose HP, obviously



I'm still not convinced you're town. It's not like you've actually found mafia this game that was HF and shining.


I remember it as I was the one that rallied troops to vote sandro. Hf brought up an early scum read but he kind of ignored it and flipped off of yamato mostly because I asked him too and kept switching back and forth. I see some of you guys dont have me as locktown so I would like to remind you I pushed sandro harder then anyone and might have gotten him lynched and if I didnt I was certainly trying too.


that's not true but whatever, don't think anyone thinks you're mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 01 2015 20:13 GMT
#4044
On May 02 2015 05:12 marvellosity wrote:
why are people voting me exactly?

like i think i am in reasonable danger of dying tonight, i'm probably not an awesome choice


because i have to vote someone not me for some ridiculous reason
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 01 2015 20:13 GMT
#4046
by the way if anyone wants to give me a job that would be nice ty
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 01 2015 20:15 GMT
#4048
isn't jat more likely to die than you? he took 12 dmg or something?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 01 2015 20:24 GMT
#4060
On May 02 2015 05:20 rsoultin wrote:
i'm quite aware that the other explanation for that is that if things went wrong they may have wanted to protect ff by not putting him on the scum counterwagon...just saying there clearly wasn't a concerted effort to lynch yamato over sandroba and that implies more going on beneath the surface


i think stealing my vote and sandro voting with 2 votes and most probably with loads of mafia buddies constitutes a concerted effort though
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 01 2015 20:28 GMT
#4068
On May 02 2015 05:26 sicklucker wrote:
Sorry im a little annoyed hf got all the credit the last two games when he hesitated to kill his own scum rerads (gb/sandro) and took all the credit when they did get lynched you dont have to read this...

+ Show Spoiler +

On April 28 2015 00:57 sicklucker wrote:
Im just super annoyed that your still talking about me. Im off the table.

Heres a list of people that offensive night actions should be targeting

Ls
sandro
breske
rstoul

Theres 2/3 scum in there those are the people whos hp we should be lowering tonight


On April 28 2015 01:11 sicklucker wrote:
Sepulchre
sandroba
Vivax
Jean Valjean
rsoultin
Inspector Javert
Chezinu
The Shining
Stutters695
Breshke
marvellosity
sicklucker
yamato77
Koshi
Rygart
Holyflare
xatalos
indignant
Fecalfeast
LightningStrike
ObiWanShinobi
Damdred

This is how im leaning on people right now


On April 28 2015 03:37 sicklucker wrote:
Sandro

Im confident hes mafia I just wanted to see other people push him so we can have more confirmed towns but alas.

The fact theres so much resistance to his lynch is a good thing if you want him to flip mafia


On April 28 2015 04:20 sicklucker wrote:
votes like rly soon. Looks like a mafia/mafia wagon breske/sandro. Think sandros the better kill


On April 28 2015 04:26 sicklucker wrote:
Right well he certainly is not a bad vote then. Altho breske not being here dispite knowing he was a top wagon is suspect. Sandro is a slightly better policy based on activity but I cant rly argue against it after reading yamatos 1 post there where he did promise to play today


On April 28 2015 04:28 sicklucker wrote:
The thing about sandro is that hes so obviously scum. Yet he only ever had a max 2 votes. This suggests to me there are like 6ish players in the game that have motives to not have the votes land on him. What do you think hf?


On April 28 2015 04:30 sicklucker wrote:
See we have the same idea. If two players are doing the same nothing and are usualy scum when they do nothing. But votes were super easy to get on yamato over sandro. That means sandro is going to be mafia more of the time because there is going to be resistance on getting mafia to vote on mafia


On April 28 2015 04:30 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2015 04:29 Fecalfeast wrote:
On April 28 2015 04:28 sicklucker wrote:
The thing about sandro is that hes so obviously scum. Yet he only ever had a max 2 votes. This suggests to me there are like 6ish players in the game that have motives to not have the votes land on him. What do you think hf?

This actually makes some decent sense.



Are you busing sandro?


your right if i was mafia id bus sandro here.

Get on sandro boys


On April 28 2015 04:32 sicklucker wrote:
CHez if your around sheep me on sandro plz


On April 28 2015 04:32 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2015 04:25 Fecalfeast wrote:
##vote yamato77



da resistance of the sandro lynch is so strong switch ff


On April 28 2015 04:36 sicklucker wrote:
Look at this two votes not on sandro. The resistance


On April 28 2015 04:49 sicklucker wrote:
No hf. Dont fall for the resistance you fool!


On April 28 2015 06:17 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2015 06:15 yamato77 wrote:
On April 28 2015 06:11 sandroba wrote:
HF you have been pushing a lot of BS this game. That list post is awful and so far you seem the only person that is somehow convinced I am mafia as opposed to most people who are saying "meh he is afk maybe he is mafia". You have been going for easy targets while spamming the thread with one liners and giving out terrible random reads. I believe this man is mafia and we should definetelly lynch him today.

We're lynching me over this guy

Who Koshi apparently believes is correct

LOLOLOL

nice job, game


i tried but that lynch resistance. Almost as if hes outed mafia


On April 28 2015 06:20 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2015 05:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yamato's return to the thread is solid.
I might have to give that Breshke case another once-over.


sandro resistance?


On April 28 2015 06:25 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2015 06:22 LightningStrike wrote:
On April 28 2015 06:21 sicklucker wrote:
On April 28 2015 06:03 Koshi wrote:
We first decided that Sandroba sucked. But then sicklucker and JAT wanted to kill you over Sandroba.

So yeah. If you are town and think that Sandroba is mafia. I would look into his partners.


No i didnt infact I think its so obvious mafia is pushing off sandro onto yamato

Are you suggesting only Mafia been defending Sandroba?


Im suggesting that when two equally shitty scum players are playing equally shitty. The one that gets votes is not mafia because of the logic that mafia does not want to vote mafia.

Sandro is just mafia comeon guys this is not hard here we go


On April 28 2015 06:26 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2015 06:23 Jean Valjean wrote:
On April 28 2015 06:21 Holyflare wrote:
Voting sandroba, suggest you guys do the same. How can someone read a thread in 30 seconds and say my reads are fabricated? Hint: they can't at all

I actually think he's slightly less likely to flip mafia based on that.

You seem to be one of the people that are in the position of town leaders. So no matter your alignment, if sandroba's only goal is not to get lynched here, which I would presume it was if he was mafia, then one of the absolutely worst plays he could make is to antagonize you.

Of course he might be intentionally going for a bad play to make us think exactly like I am doing now, but it's at least some food for thought.


sandro cant possibly think he can get hf lynched as any alignment. He either thinks this or is trying to look town by not voting yamato


On April 28 2015 06:48 sicklucker wrote:
I think sandros mafia. Hes put in minimul effort but this hf scum read just seems like a last ditch play like he did in jackof all trades (that you feel for and lost me dat game)


On April 28 2015 07:24 sicklucker wrote:
Also sicklucker finds another mafia. Be mad because your bad


On April 28 2015 06:17 Half the Sky wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count

yamato77 (7): marvellosity, Vivax, rsoultin, Stutters695, indignant, ObiWanShinobi, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, LightningStrike, Holyflare, Koshi
sandroba (5): Holyflare, Xatalos, Holyflare, Holyflare, sicklucker, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, Koshi, yamato77, Stutters695
Breshke (2): Koshi, ObiWanShinobi, LightningStrike, Chezinu, sicklucker, Jean Valjean
rsoultin (1): Fecalfeast, Sepulchre
marvellosity (1): Koshi, sicklucker, Inspector Javert, Koshi
LightningStrike (1): Breshke
Sepulchre (1): rsoultin
Holyflare (0): Koshi
Koshi (0): Holyflare
sicklucker (0): marvellosity, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, Vivax
Xatalos (0): Koshi

Not voted (4): sandroba, The Shining, rygart, Damdred

Given the current vote count, yamato77 is most likely to be knocked out.
The voting thread is located here.
Countdown:


And oh look im the first post on sandro shocker.


I was quite confident that sandroba was mafia dude I just couldn't get anyone to switch until he actually did the most scummy shit possible. No idea what you're trying to prove :o
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 01 2015 20:35 GMT
#4077
On May 02 2015 05:31 indignant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2015 05:15 Holyflare wrote:
isn't jat more likely to die than you? he took 12 dmg or something?

Why are you not reading the game?
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2015 05:20 rsoultin wrote:
i'm quite aware that the other explanation for that is that if things went wrong they may have wanted to protect ff by not putting him on the scum counterwagon...just saying there clearly wasn't a concerted effort to lynch yamato over sandroba and that implies more going on beneath the surface

FF tried to make people vote bats. If that takes a few votes off sandroba it is as effective as voting yamato if not more. Still all of this is useless speculation right now.


got no mobile data and haven't been at my computer, I did read that though I just forgot/didn't care

also having a basically confirmed mafia lynch list makes my effort somewhat plummet
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 01 2015 20:37 GMT
#4079
On May 02 2015 05:29 sicklucker wrote:
hf I acualy thought it was a bit strange you didnt commit to killing sandro earlier thats my point. I believe your reasoning was you wanted to sheep marv over your own read but I cant recall


it's not like yamato was a bad wagon either none of them had played the entire game (and yamato had made promises to play) and I was most definitely trying to get people onto sandro earlier with much resistance
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 01 2015 20:38 GMT
#4081
On May 02 2015 05:36 indignant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2015 05:35 Holyflare wrote:
On May 02 2015 05:31 indignant wrote:
On May 02 2015 05:15 Holyflare wrote:
isn't jat more likely to die than you? he took 12 dmg or something?

Why are you not reading the game?
On May 02 2015 05:20 rsoultin wrote:
i'm quite aware that the other explanation for that is that if things went wrong they may have wanted to protect ff by not putting him on the scum counterwagon...just saying there clearly wasn't a concerted effort to lynch yamato over sandroba and that implies more going on beneath the surface

FF tried to make people vote bats. If that takes a few votes off sandroba it is as effective as voting yamato if not more. Still all of this is useless speculation right now.


got no mobile data and haven't been at my computer, I did read that though I just forgot/didn't care

also having a basically confirmed mafia lynch list makes my effort somewhat plummet

Well, I hope this changes soon then. Because you are never getting killed and at some point the paranoia will set in. And rightfully so. It's not that unbelievable to bus a player like sandro day1. It has been done before.


yeh obviously when the game becomes more interesting no duh
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 01 2015 20:55 GMT
#4086
On May 02 2015 05:43 indignant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2015 05:42 marvellosity wrote:
anyway, we are not worrying about hf at all for now ^^

No, I just want to make this clear. The guy is not confirmed town.


SURE SPREAD THAT SUSPICION NOW SCUMMER

convenient how you suddenly can't die!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 01 2015 22:08 GMT
#4105
mafia tried to kill me rofl
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 01 2015 22:16 GMT
#4120
On May 02 2015 07:14 Stutters695 wrote:
HF you took less damage than Sep right?


can only say that mafia attacked me i think
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 01 2015 22:27 GMT
#4132
On May 02 2015 07:18 rsoultin wrote:
...

so hf

this amazing revelation?


oh right yeh mafia actually did dmg to me on n1 because i claimed annoyingly and it was 6, tonight i was fully working and they got rekt

hence why i told everyone to stop speculating about kp
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 01 2015 22:34 GMT
#4144
On May 02 2015 07:33 Inspector Javert wrote:
I just got clarification. If either one of my fighters is chosen for the main event (d2 it was marv) then the amateur fight does not happen.

So if vivax and/or sepu fight in the main event then they will NOT fight in the amateur fight.


this seems like you made up some bs and decided to put the most likely candidates for a fight/lynch into a "fight" knowing it wouldn't happen
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 01 2015 22:41 GMT
#4160
On May 02 2015 07:38 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2015 07:32 rsoultin wrote:
meeeeeeeh now things aren't lining up again -_- lovely

stutters did nothing happen to you when you used that power?

and yeah no clue on jean...maybe one of his cases was his check?


Correct. It's not a negative against HF though necessarily. Need to figure out how it works exactly before I explain.


are you telling me you did not take dmg?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 01 2015 22:46 GMT
#4167
btw im on EXTREMELY low hp
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 01 2015 22:47 GMT
#4170
On May 02 2015 07:47 indignant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2015 07:46 Holyflare wrote:
btw im on EXTREMELY low hp

What's the point in saying this if we can't heal you anyways?


incredible reasons
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 01 2015 22:48 GMT
#4172
i dont know how to outline it without like... losing my power?
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