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ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
March 28 2015 22:25 GMT
#821
On March 29 2015 07:11 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 07:04 Keirathi wrote:
On March 29 2015 06:57 batsnacks wrote:
On March 29 2015 06:50 Keirathi wrote:
VE: There's basically no way a scum ExO made that post I was talking about. Scum marv/rayn/hf/jat? Absolutely. But look at all of his other posts. That's the only post where he's being snarky, everything else is him posting cautiously/carefully.

Hmm...how to say what I'm trying to say...

Basically, in general if people are posting cautiously/carefully as scum, they don't suddenly break out into snark-mode just to poke at one of the vets. I find it very, very unlikely that ExO_ did that "just to find something to call out" as you put it.


What about exo's filter made you feel like he was posting cautiously/carefully?

On March 28 2015 11:56 ExO_ wrote:
On March 28 2015 11:53 rsoultin wrote:
On March 28 2015 11:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 28 2015 10:54 rsoultin wrote:
On March 28 2015 10:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 28 2015 10:49 sicklucker wrote:
On March 28 2015 10:02 Crossfire99 wrote:
On March 28 2015 09:56 sicklucker wrote:
Ok so I have veteran powers and im never a nk. So ill just hardclaim so we have a confirmed town as mayor

Like I don't even know what to say to this. Ugh. If you really wanted to make the most of your role and be the best town you could be, then you should have tried to play well so you would get night killed assuming you are telling the truth. This is just so ridiculous...I don't care how bad you think you are. Just try and don't do stuff like this.


People dont respect my town game im never a nk

If I had to guess, I'd say that "preemptively explaining why you weren't nightkilled" falls under the "stuff he doesn't like" category...


get out of my head xP

*gets on ur head instead*

Have a taste of ur own medicine woman!


nuuu!

-sits on head- my throne! mine!



leaning town on lightningstrike lol his usual metaread for me is "she's too happy to be scum" so i can believe he thinks he's right here. more to the point, i don't see a scum!lightningstrike being this aggressive


idk in Guardians he did something similar with "meta" reads when he said something along the lines of "I think ExO is town based on the Student Game we played last". Granted, now he's reading scum where in Guardians he was reading me as town.

Still doing that same silly kinda meta reading back to back as scum would be silly, so maybe I'm just over thinking it.


On March 28 2015 20:48 ExO_ wrote:
I think we're getting a bit distracted. The little squabble HF/Rsoultin is having isn't being productive right now. And while it's important to find scum I think it's more important to focus on who we're electing today. It's a bit rough right now since this game seems to really be off to a slow star and we've yet to here from a lot of people.


On March 28 2015 22:10 ExO_ wrote:
On March 28 2015 21:41 Holyflare wrote:
Bla bla mechanics. Tell me what you got from interactions don't ignore what I'm saying artanis


I've gotten very little. I'm leaning town on rsoultin. I lean town on you as well, but not as much as rsoultin.

Everybody else? Almost nothing. If you held a gun to my head and told me to pick scum I'd probably say JAT right now. He's answering questions and responding which I like, but he's not really adding information. He's not offering anything just reacting to what's there. It's the kinda thing that I think looks decent but isn't really helping town at all.


Basically he's just hiding around the sidelines saying soft/safe/obvious things. It's all very different from that one post where he called VE out.


I thought the mayor campaign was pretty loud and out there but I see what you're saying I think with the safe/obvious things. That said I still don't understand town reading him.

Like, maybe you can null read him because he has contributed more to talk about than others? I personally don't understand town reading him though.


I had a lot of fun posting the fallout propaganda. And yeah I'd love it if somebody said "that was cool, I'll elect ExO over it". But I wasn't honestly expecting it. That being said:

Are you kidding me? ofc I want mayor (or warrior/rogue/cleric in this case). No offense, but I trust myself more than anybody else here. I'm not in the "TL mafia cool kids club" so me getting elected is practically impossible, but that's not gonna stop me from at least trying to get mayor. I agree with doing a community vote, and getting people elected who are going to do what the entire town wants. I know I'll follow it. But half the people here in TL mafia think they are the smartest people in the world and won't do what the majority wants because "they know better".
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 28 2015 22:29 GMT
#822
On March 29 2015 03:04 Keirathi wrote:
He has an entire filter of townie posts. Even if you want to think that one post was weird it doesn't override the fact that he's one of the towniest motherfuckers in this game.

Oh, please....
On March 29 2015 03:26 Onegu wrote:
Lol jat I'm more obv town than you atm.

Sorry dude, but you aren't capable of being obvious town :/
On March 29 2015 03:34 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 00:16 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 29 2015 00:14 Sepulchre wrote:
On March 29 2015 00:11 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 29 2015 00:10 Sepulchre wrote:
On March 29 2015 00:06 Onegu wrote:
See my reason for voting BH is awesome!

Well I do understand it now, however that doesn't change the fact that we don't need to waste our vote on a probable modkill.

From what I'm gathering his actions also don't really have anything to do with his alignment (considering people saw this coming beforehand), so I think we could probably do better.

How did you gather this?

Because Blazinghand/Onegu motioned to policy lynch him before his latest bunch of posts that made everybody (me admittedly included) want to get rid of him.

Ok. But BH and Onegu want to policy lynch him for being an annoyingly aggressive and aggressively wrong lunatic in his last games as town. As you can see he is the opposite this game which indicates that he is scum. He isn't able to emulate his townplay as scum at all.



Btw I really don't like this post feels like he knows I'm town. Like if I was scum I would want a josh I who I know can't read me for shit in this game. This stinks of TMI to me

I don't even.... what do you think is TMI here? This post doesn't make the least bit of sense.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 28 2015 22:31 GMT
#823
On March 29 2015 03:41 Damdred wrote:
Do you think that LS is town currently I know you have a good read on him usually? And I know hes calling you scum what do you think of him? Also could you talk a bit more about bats and tell me what you specifically like about him?

Huh?
On March 29 2015 04:29 VayneAuthority wrote:
I'm not sure how you can even begin to read anything into that opening post. its just one of those typical posts nobody gives a shit about but people think mafia is their blog or something. Idk how you can dislike it on a mafia level though.

On March 29 2015 04:37 VayneAuthority wrote:
completely neutral and a good post to ignore unless she actually doesnt come back and post anything as from what ive seen her town and mafia play are like night and day..

I like both of those posts.

justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 28 2015 22:33 GMT
#824
On March 29 2015 04:56 Half the Sky wrote:
I've scanned/read up to page 30 and my general thoughts so far:

Votes for the party: Any of ExO, Keirathi, HF or Kitaman would do.

Keirarthi seems pretty straightforward, and I like ExO's general approach/tone to his game. Kitaman seems to have the same approach (picking out scummy points as he can) as he has had in his town games in Carol and JOAT, and I am quite comfortable with him, even if he doesn't post that much. I'm also fine with HF's train of thought, and tone-wise he appears to be speaking naturally.

Willing to lynch (so far): Hapa and Koshi.

Now I've not played with Hapa before, but I get the impression (and call me out if I'm wrong) that as a vet and as a reputable player, he should be doing way more as town. He's taken a platform of lynching BH when BH already said pre-game he wasn't RNGing his vote. Which is problematic.

And Koshi generally has a scum meta of doing jack all, and unlike JOAT, where he was modkilled as town, I don't recall RL reasons for him not contributing as much in this game.

More to come.

How come you are blatantly sheeping my reads but aren't mentioning me at all?
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
March 28 2015 22:33 GMT
#825
JAT could you give me some actual reads? Like without quoting somebody else and telling me what you thought of their thoughts.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 28 2015 22:34 GMT
#826
On March 29 2015 03:01 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 02:58 Holyflare wrote:
oh slam i got something for you


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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 28 2015 22:35 GMT
#827
On March 29 2015 07:33 ExO_ wrote:
JAT could you give me some actual reads? Like without quoting somebody else and telling me what you thought of their thoughts.

Are you serious?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 28 2015 22:36 GMT
#828
On March 29 2015 07:03 Koshi wrote:
Trfel, don't you think that it is more likely that scum wont adjust a read? I am talking about your LS townread.
It's a small bit of meta on LightningStrike. LightningStrike generally is nice to people and townreads them as town. In addition, no one clearly proved why his claims were false (until rsoultin went through her past games), so he had no reason to drop the read from a town perspective. I find it more telling that he stuck with it because of his reasons, even though everyone else was saying it was a bad read (though not clearly showing why it was a bad read).
On March 29 2015 07:05 Holyflare wrote:
like what trfel just sheeped all my reads and pretty much reasons and didn't even list me there


broooooo?
And you expect me to be able to read one of the best scum players on the site less than 24 hours into the first day?

From the games I've played in where you were scum, you tended to spend some time discussing irrelevant things and weren't terribly serious for a while. However, as town, you sometimes start out seriously and lead the thread from the very beginning. This game, I'm seeing more of the former. I don't know if this is alignment indicative or not, and I'm not going to do a full meta analysis (it's too unlikely to give a false conclusion). So I have no read on you at this time.
On March 29 2015 07:11 Keirathi wrote:
I'm not here trying to advocate that ExO should be in the party or anything if people don't agree with me (even though I'm right), but there's more than enough reason not to lynch him until he posts more.
I don't want to lynch ExO_ yet. But I definitely do not want him in the adventuring party.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 28 2015 22:37 GMT
#829
On March 29 2015 07:11 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 07:09 Koshi wrote:
Hmm.

About sicklucker. Why is it scummy if he wants to be cleric? Assuming the cleric is a protective role? I think town!sicklucker would benefit from that role because he is rarely a nightkill.

I don't see any reason why sicklucker is mafia Trfel. For wanting to be cleric? Dnu. Did he hardclaim anything?

#
yes vet

Is it true that sicklucker stopped campaigning to be cleric?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 28 2015 22:38 GMT
#830
omg is this another game in which scum!jat says the exact same things as townies and then pretends it's an accident.
I had a good night of sleep.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
March 28 2015 22:38 GMT
#831
On March 29 2015 07:25 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 07:11 batsnacks wrote:
On March 29 2015 07:04 Keirathi wrote:
On March 29 2015 06:57 batsnacks wrote:
On March 29 2015 06:50 Keirathi wrote:
VE: There's basically no way a scum ExO made that post I was talking about. Scum marv/rayn/hf/jat? Absolutely. But look at all of his other posts. That's the only post where he's being snarky, everything else is him posting cautiously/carefully.

Hmm...how to say what I'm trying to say...

Basically, in general if people are posting cautiously/carefully as scum, they don't suddenly break out into snark-mode just to poke at one of the vets. I find it very, very unlikely that ExO_ did that "just to find something to call out" as you put it.


What about exo's filter made you feel like he was posting cautiously/carefully?

On March 28 2015 11:56 ExO_ wrote:
On March 28 2015 11:53 rsoultin wrote:
On March 28 2015 11:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 28 2015 10:54 rsoultin wrote:
On March 28 2015 10:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 28 2015 10:49 sicklucker wrote:
On March 28 2015 10:02 Crossfire99 wrote:
[quote]
Like I don't even know what to say to this. Ugh. If you really wanted to make the most of your role and be the best town you could be, then you should have tried to play well so you would get night killed assuming you are telling the truth. This is just so ridiculous...I don't care how bad you think you are. Just try and don't do stuff like this.


People dont respect my town game im never a nk

If I had to guess, I'd say that "preemptively explaining why you weren't nightkilled" falls under the "stuff he doesn't like" category...


get out of my head xP

*gets on ur head instead*

Have a taste of ur own medicine woman!


nuuu!

-sits on head- my throne! mine!



leaning town on lightningstrike lol his usual metaread for me is "she's too happy to be scum" so i can believe he thinks he's right here. more to the point, i don't see a scum!lightningstrike being this aggressive


idk in Guardians he did something similar with "meta" reads when he said something along the lines of "I think ExO is town based on the Student Game we played last". Granted, now he's reading scum where in Guardians he was reading me as town.

Still doing that same silly kinda meta reading back to back as scum would be silly, so maybe I'm just over thinking it.


On March 28 2015 20:48 ExO_ wrote:
I think we're getting a bit distracted. The little squabble HF/Rsoultin is having isn't being productive right now. And while it's important to find scum I think it's more important to focus on who we're electing today. It's a bit rough right now since this game seems to really be off to a slow star and we've yet to here from a lot of people.


On March 28 2015 22:10 ExO_ wrote:
On March 28 2015 21:41 Holyflare wrote:
Bla bla mechanics. Tell me what you got from interactions don't ignore what I'm saying artanis


I've gotten very little. I'm leaning town on rsoultin. I lean town on you as well, but not as much as rsoultin.

Everybody else? Almost nothing. If you held a gun to my head and told me to pick scum I'd probably say JAT right now. He's answering questions and responding which I like, but he's not really adding information. He's not offering anything just reacting to what's there. It's the kinda thing that I think looks decent but isn't really helping town at all.


Basically he's just hiding around the sidelines saying soft/safe/obvious things. It's all very different from that one post where he called VE out.


I thought the mayor campaign was pretty loud and out there but I see what you're saying I think with the safe/obvious things. That said I still don't understand town reading him.

Like, maybe you can null read him because he has contributed more to talk about than others? I personally don't understand town reading him though.


I had a lot of fun posting the fallout propaganda. And yeah I'd love it if somebody said "that was cool, I'll elect ExO over it". But I wasn't honestly expecting it. That being said:

Are you kidding me? ofc I want mayor (or warrior/rogue/cleric in this case). No offense, but I trust myself more than anybody else here. I'm not in the "TL mafia cool kids club" so me getting elected is practically impossible, but that's not gonna stop me from at least trying to get mayor. I agree with doing a community vote, and getting people elected who are going to do what the entire town wants. I know I'll follow it. But half the people here in TL mafia think they are the smartest people in the world and won't do what the majority wants because "they know better".


I'm not "kidding you" I don't even understand what you're going on about. Your mayor campaign has nothing to do with why I'm scum reading you, I only pointed out your campaign because keirathi said you were being safe/agreeable and your mayor campaign was not consistent with that. I'm scum reading you because I think your game plan today is scummy.
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
March 28 2015 22:38 GMT
#832
On March 29 2015 07:35 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 07:33 ExO_ wrote:
JAT could you give me some actual reads? Like without quoting somebody else and telling me what you thought of their thoughts.

Are you serious?


Yeah. Unless I missed something in the pages I haven't read yet, all you've been doing (in my opinion) is quoting other people and saying what you've thought of their thoughts. That was the case when I went to sleep, and I wake up and here you are again doing the same thing.

Like do you post something that takes information and draws conclusions from it, or do you just thumb up and thumb down everybody elses posts?'
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 28 2015 22:38 GMT
#833
On March 29 2015 07:37 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 07:11 Holyflare wrote:
On March 29 2015 07:09 Koshi wrote:
Hmm.

About sicklucker. Why is it scummy if he wants to be cleric? Assuming the cleric is a protective role? I think town!sicklucker would benefit from that role because he is rarely a nightkill.

I don't see any reason why sicklucker is mafia Trfel. For wanting to be cleric? Dnu. Did he hardclaim anything?

#
yes vet

Is it true that sicklucker stopped campaigning to be cleric?

Idk check his filter?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 28 2015 22:39 GMT
#834
On March 29 2015 07:38 Koshi wrote:
omg is this another game in which scum!jat says the exact same things as townies and then pretends it's an accident.

I have never done this as scum. Not even once.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 28 2015 22:41 GMT
#835
Y'all can keep scumhunting I'm looking up import laws from the UK ssons
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 28 2015 22:41 GMT
#836
On March 29 2015 07:38 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 07:35 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 29 2015 07:33 ExO_ wrote:
JAT could you give me some actual reads? Like without quoting somebody else and telling me what you thought of their thoughts.

Are you serious?


Yeah. Unless I missed something in the pages I haven't read yet, all you've been doing (in my opinion) is quoting other people and saying what you've thought of their thoughts. That was the case when I went to sleep, and I wake up and here you are again doing the same thing.

Like do you post something that takes information and draws conclusions from it, or do you just thumb up and thumb down everybody elses posts?'

So you missed how I went against Koshi for starters? That has to be the strongest push there was so far and you are telling me you completely missed that?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 28 2015 22:41 GMT
#837
On March 29 2015 07:39 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 07:38 Koshi wrote:
omg is this another game in which scum!jat says the exact same things as townies and then pretends it's an accident.

I have never done this as scum. Not even once.

True. Only 3 games in a row.
I had a good night of sleep.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 28 2015 22:42 GMT
#838
On March 29 2015 07:41 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 07:39 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 29 2015 07:38 Koshi wrote:
omg is this another game in which scum!jat says the exact same things as townies and then pretends it's an accident.

I have never done this as scum. Not even once.

True. Only 3 games in a row.

No, literally never. And you repeating this horseshit again and again does not make it true.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 28 2015 22:44 GMT
#839
On March 29 2015 07:42 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 07:41 Koshi wrote:
On March 29 2015 07:39 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 29 2015 07:38 Koshi wrote:
omg is this another game in which scum!jat says the exact same things as townies and then pretends it's an accident.

I have never done this as scum. Not even once.

True. Only 3 games in a row.

No, literally never. And you repeating this horseshit again and again does not make it true.

Excuse me, can I butt in?

I think you are talking about giraffe shit
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 28 2015 22:45 GMT
#840
On March 29 2015 07:41 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 07:39 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 29 2015 07:38 Koshi wrote:
omg is this another game in which scum!jat says the exact same things as townies and then pretends it's an accident.

I have never done this as scum. Not even once.

True. Only 3 games in a row.

HOwever, this is also right
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
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