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ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
March 28 2015 22:45 GMT
#841
On March 29 2015 07:38 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 07:25 ExO_ wrote:
On March 29 2015 07:11 batsnacks wrote:
On March 29 2015 07:04 Keirathi wrote:
On March 29 2015 06:57 batsnacks wrote:
On March 29 2015 06:50 Keirathi wrote:
VE: There's basically no way a scum ExO made that post I was talking about. Scum marv/rayn/hf/jat? Absolutely. But look at all of his other posts. That's the only post where he's being snarky, everything else is him posting cautiously/carefully.

Hmm...how to say what I'm trying to say...

Basically, in general if people are posting cautiously/carefully as scum, they don't suddenly break out into snark-mode just to poke at one of the vets. I find it very, very unlikely that ExO_ did that "just to find something to call out" as you put it.


What about exo's filter made you feel like he was posting cautiously/carefully?

On March 28 2015 11:56 ExO_ wrote:
On March 28 2015 11:53 rsoultin wrote:
On March 28 2015 11:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 28 2015 10:54 rsoultin wrote:
On March 28 2015 10:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 28 2015 10:49 sicklucker wrote:
[quote]

People dont respect my town game im never a nk

If I had to guess, I'd say that "preemptively explaining why you weren't nightkilled" falls under the "stuff he doesn't like" category...


get out of my head xP

*gets on ur head instead*

Have a taste of ur own medicine woman!


nuuu!

-sits on head- my throne! mine!



leaning town on lightningstrike lol his usual metaread for me is "she's too happy to be scum" so i can believe he thinks he's right here. more to the point, i don't see a scum!lightningstrike being this aggressive


idk in Guardians he did something similar with "meta" reads when he said something along the lines of "I think ExO is town based on the Student Game we played last". Granted, now he's reading scum where in Guardians he was reading me as town.

Still doing that same silly kinda meta reading back to back as scum would be silly, so maybe I'm just over thinking it.


On March 28 2015 20:48 ExO_ wrote:
I think we're getting a bit distracted. The little squabble HF/Rsoultin is having isn't being productive right now. And while it's important to find scum I think it's more important to focus on who we're electing today. It's a bit rough right now since this game seems to really be off to a slow star and we've yet to here from a lot of people.


On March 28 2015 22:10 ExO_ wrote:
On March 28 2015 21:41 Holyflare wrote:
Bla bla mechanics. Tell me what you got from interactions don't ignore what I'm saying artanis


I've gotten very little. I'm leaning town on rsoultin. I lean town on you as well, but not as much as rsoultin.

Everybody else? Almost nothing. If you held a gun to my head and told me to pick scum I'd probably say JAT right now. He's answering questions and responding which I like, but he's not really adding information. He's not offering anything just reacting to what's there. It's the kinda thing that I think looks decent but isn't really helping town at all.


Basically he's just hiding around the sidelines saying soft/safe/obvious things. It's all very different from that one post where he called VE out.


I thought the mayor campaign was pretty loud and out there but I see what you're saying I think with the safe/obvious things. That said I still don't understand town reading him.

Like, maybe you can null read him because he has contributed more to talk about than others? I personally don't understand town reading him though.


I had a lot of fun posting the fallout propaganda. And yeah I'd love it if somebody said "that was cool, I'll elect ExO over it". But I wasn't honestly expecting it. That being said:

Are you kidding me? ofc I want mayor (or warrior/rogue/cleric in this case). No offense, but I trust myself more than anybody else here. I'm not in the "TL mafia cool kids club" so me getting elected is practically impossible, but that's not gonna stop me from at least trying to get mayor. I agree with doing a community vote, and getting people elected who are going to do what the entire town wants. I know I'll follow it. But half the people here in TL mafia think they are the smartest people in the world and won't do what the majority wants because "they know better".


I'm not "kidding you" I don't even understand what you're going on about. Your mayor campaign has nothing to do with why I'm scum reading you, I only pointed out your campaign because keirathi said you were being safe/agreeable and your mayor campaign was not consistent with that. I'm scum reading you because I think your game plan today is scummy.


Which part of my gameplan? I think the only thing I've said is I believe it's more important to find 3 town right now because that's who we are voting for. And I stand by that. Like I know there's a lot of egos in here that need to prove they can find scum on day 1, but a lot of day 1 reads are based on crap. There hasn't been a single case I've read yet that makes me go "yep that's super scummy".

However I think by the end of day 1 I'll have a pretty good idea of 3 people out of 27 that are really oozing town. So that's what I'm more interested in. Does that mean I think we shouldn't scum hunt? No, the scum discussion help reveal who is town who isn't. As I said earlier, scum hunting and figuring out who is town is kinda the same thing to a certain extent. But as town we need to be more focused on making sure the right people get elected today. Because that's what the votes are for today.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
March 28 2015 22:45 GMT
#842
On March 29 2015 07:44 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 07:42 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 29 2015 07:41 Koshi wrote:
On March 29 2015 07:39 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 29 2015 07:38 Koshi wrote:
omg is this another game in which scum!jat says the exact same things as townies and then pretends it's an accident.

I have never done this as scum. Not even once.

True. Only 3 games in a row.

No, literally never. And you repeating this horseshit again and again does not make it true.

Excuse me, can I butt in?

I think you are talking about giraffe shit

Is that bigger than horseshit? Or does it smell worse? You could have a point here then.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
March 28 2015 22:46 GMT
#843
On March 29 2015 07:45 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 07:41 Koshi wrote:
On March 29 2015 07:39 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 29 2015 07:38 Koshi wrote:
omg is this another game in which scum!jat says the exact same things as townies and then pretends it's an accident.

I have never done this as scum. Not even once.

True. Only 3 games in a row.

HOwever, this is also right

No, it is not right. I have NEVER intentionally posted the same thing a townie posted as scum like Koshi said last game or this game. Not even once. End of discussion.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 28 2015 22:46 GMT
#844

2:40
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
March 28 2015 22:51 GMT
#845
On March 29 2015 07:45 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 07:38 batsnacks wrote:
On March 29 2015 07:25 ExO_ wrote:
On March 29 2015 07:11 batsnacks wrote:
On March 29 2015 07:04 Keirathi wrote:
On March 29 2015 06:57 batsnacks wrote:
On March 29 2015 06:50 Keirathi wrote:
VE: There's basically no way a scum ExO made that post I was talking about. Scum marv/rayn/hf/jat? Absolutely. But look at all of his other posts. That's the only post where he's being snarky, everything else is him posting cautiously/carefully.

Hmm...how to say what I'm trying to say...

Basically, in general if people are posting cautiously/carefully as scum, they don't suddenly break out into snark-mode just to poke at one of the vets. I find it very, very unlikely that ExO_ did that "just to find something to call out" as you put it.


What about exo's filter made you feel like he was posting cautiously/carefully?

On March 28 2015 11:56 ExO_ wrote:
On March 28 2015 11:53 rsoultin wrote:
On March 28 2015 11:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 28 2015 10:54 rsoultin wrote:
On March 28 2015 10:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
[quote]
If I had to guess, I'd say that "preemptively explaining why you weren't nightkilled" falls under the "stuff he doesn't like" category...


get out of my head xP

*gets on ur head instead*

Have a taste of ur own medicine woman!


nuuu!

-sits on head- my throne! mine!



leaning town on lightningstrike lol his usual metaread for me is "she's too happy to be scum" so i can believe he thinks he's right here. more to the point, i don't see a scum!lightningstrike being this aggressive


idk in Guardians he did something similar with "meta" reads when he said something along the lines of "I think ExO is town based on the Student Game we played last". Granted, now he's reading scum where in Guardians he was reading me as town.

Still doing that same silly kinda meta reading back to back as scum would be silly, so maybe I'm just over thinking it.


On March 28 2015 20:48 ExO_ wrote:
I think we're getting a bit distracted. The little squabble HF/Rsoultin is having isn't being productive right now. And while it's important to find scum I think it's more important to focus on who we're electing today. It's a bit rough right now since this game seems to really be off to a slow star and we've yet to here from a lot of people.


On March 28 2015 22:10 ExO_ wrote:
On March 28 2015 21:41 Holyflare wrote:
Bla bla mechanics. Tell me what you got from interactions don't ignore what I'm saying artanis


I've gotten very little. I'm leaning town on rsoultin. I lean town on you as well, but not as much as rsoultin.

Everybody else? Almost nothing. If you held a gun to my head and told me to pick scum I'd probably say JAT right now. He's answering questions and responding which I like, but he's not really adding information. He's not offering anything just reacting to what's there. It's the kinda thing that I think looks decent but isn't really helping town at all.


Basically he's just hiding around the sidelines saying soft/safe/obvious things. It's all very different from that one post where he called VE out.


I thought the mayor campaign was pretty loud and out there but I see what you're saying I think with the safe/obvious things. That said I still don't understand town reading him.

Like, maybe you can null read him because he has contributed more to talk about than others? I personally don't understand town reading him though.


I had a lot of fun posting the fallout propaganda. And yeah I'd love it if somebody said "that was cool, I'll elect ExO over it". But I wasn't honestly expecting it. That being said:

Are you kidding me? ofc I want mayor (or warrior/rogue/cleric in this case). No offense, but I trust myself more than anybody else here. I'm not in the "TL mafia cool kids club" so me getting elected is practically impossible, but that's not gonna stop me from at least trying to get mayor. I agree with doing a community vote, and getting people elected who are going to do what the entire town wants. I know I'll follow it. But half the people here in TL mafia think they are the smartest people in the world and won't do what the majority wants because "they know better".


I'm not "kidding you" I don't even understand what you're going on about. Your mayor campaign has nothing to do with why I'm scum reading you, I only pointed out your campaign because keirathi said you were being safe/agreeable and your mayor campaign was not consistent with that. I'm scum reading you because I think your game plan today is scummy.


Which part of my gameplan? I think the only thing I've said is I believe it's more important to find 3 town right now because that's who we are voting for. And I stand by that. Like I know there's a lot of egos in here that need to prove they can find scum on day 1, but a lot of day 1 reads are based on crap. There hasn't been a single case I've read yet that makes me go "yep that's super scummy".

However I think by the end of day 1 I'll have a pretty good idea of 3 people out of 27 that are really oozing town. So that's what I'm more interested in. Does that mean I think we shouldn't scum hunt? No, the scum discussion help reveal who is town who isn't. As I said earlier, scum hunting and figuring out who is town is kinda the same thing to a certain extent. But as town we need to be more focused on making sure the right people get elected today. Because that's what the votes are for today.


If day 1 reads are based on crap then how are you finding townies if not for reasons based on crap?

Step 1 is hunt scum, it isn't election politics and it isn't town reads.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 28 2015 22:51 GMT
#846
ahhh trfel as long as I understand it's the fear read then it's ok
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
March 28 2015 22:52 GMT
#847
On March 29 2015 07:41 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 07:38 ExO_ wrote:
On March 29 2015 07:35 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 29 2015 07:33 ExO_ wrote:
JAT could you give me some actual reads? Like without quoting somebody else and telling me what you thought of their thoughts.

Are you serious?


Yeah. Unless I missed something in the pages I haven't read yet, all you've been doing (in my opinion) is quoting other people and saying what you've thought of their thoughts. That was the case when I went to sleep, and I wake up and here you are again doing the same thing.

Like do you post something that takes information and draws conclusions from it, or do you just thumb up and thumb down everybody elses posts?'

So you missed how I went against Koshi for starters? That has to be the strongest push there was so far and you are telling me you completely missed that?


I read this and clicked your filter, fully expecting to have to come back and apologize for not having read it all yet. I was very mistaken in that thought. Your case on Koshi I don't find compelling at all. Especially the parts where you are okay lynching him even if he is town.

you're filter is about 80% other people's quoted words, 20% your own. You rarely post more than one sentence at a time. To me it looks like you're just taking everyone else's words, saying a few more of your own, and that's it. You're not bringing anything to the table that somebody else doesn't first bring. Except this little "push" on Koshi, and there's hardly anything there to justify it. Other than Koshi can't help but get modkilled sometimes.

The only point I'd agree with you on is it's not right for Koshi wanting to redeem himself by getting lynched. But I don't believe it's scum alignment indicative.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
March 28 2015 22:52 GMT
#848
On March 29 2015 07:51 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 07:45 ExO_ wrote:
On March 29 2015 07:38 batsnacks wrote:
On March 29 2015 07:25 ExO_ wrote:
On March 29 2015 07:11 batsnacks wrote:
On March 29 2015 07:04 Keirathi wrote:
On March 29 2015 06:57 batsnacks wrote:
On March 29 2015 06:50 Keirathi wrote:
VE: There's basically no way a scum ExO made that post I was talking about. Scum marv/rayn/hf/jat? Absolutely. But look at all of his other posts. That's the only post where he's being snarky, everything else is him posting cautiously/carefully.

Hmm...how to say what I'm trying to say...

Basically, in general if people are posting cautiously/carefully as scum, they don't suddenly break out into snark-mode just to poke at one of the vets. I find it very, very unlikely that ExO_ did that "just to find something to call out" as you put it.


What about exo's filter made you feel like he was posting cautiously/carefully?

On March 28 2015 11:56 ExO_ wrote:
On March 28 2015 11:53 rsoultin wrote:
On March 28 2015 11:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 28 2015 10:54 rsoultin wrote:
[quote]

get out of my head xP

*gets on ur head instead*

Have a taste of ur own medicine woman!


nuuu!

-sits on head- my throne! mine!



leaning town on lightningstrike lol his usual metaread for me is "she's too happy to be scum" so i can believe he thinks he's right here. more to the point, i don't see a scum!lightningstrike being this aggressive


idk in Guardians he did something similar with "meta" reads when he said something along the lines of "I think ExO is town based on the Student Game we played last". Granted, now he's reading scum where in Guardians he was reading me as town.

Still doing that same silly kinda meta reading back to back as scum would be silly, so maybe I'm just over thinking it.


On March 28 2015 20:48 ExO_ wrote:
I think we're getting a bit distracted. The little squabble HF/Rsoultin is having isn't being productive right now. And while it's important to find scum I think it's more important to focus on who we're electing today. It's a bit rough right now since this game seems to really be off to a slow star and we've yet to here from a lot of people.


On March 28 2015 22:10 ExO_ wrote:
On March 28 2015 21:41 Holyflare wrote:
Bla bla mechanics. Tell me what you got from interactions don't ignore what I'm saying artanis


I've gotten very little. I'm leaning town on rsoultin. I lean town on you as well, but not as much as rsoultin.

Everybody else? Almost nothing. If you held a gun to my head and told me to pick scum I'd probably say JAT right now. He's answering questions and responding which I like, but he's not really adding information. He's not offering anything just reacting to what's there. It's the kinda thing that I think looks decent but isn't really helping town at all.


Basically he's just hiding around the sidelines saying soft/safe/obvious things. It's all very different from that one post where he called VE out.


I thought the mayor campaign was pretty loud and out there but I see what you're saying I think with the safe/obvious things. That said I still don't understand town reading him.

Like, maybe you can null read him because he has contributed more to talk about than others? I personally don't understand town reading him though.


I had a lot of fun posting the fallout propaganda. And yeah I'd love it if somebody said "that was cool, I'll elect ExO over it". But I wasn't honestly expecting it. That being said:

Are you kidding me? ofc I want mayor (or warrior/rogue/cleric in this case). No offense, but I trust myself more than anybody else here. I'm not in the "TL mafia cool kids club" so me getting elected is practically impossible, but that's not gonna stop me from at least trying to get mayor. I agree with doing a community vote, and getting people elected who are going to do what the entire town wants. I know I'll follow it. But half the people here in TL mafia think they are the smartest people in the world and won't do what the majority wants because "they know better".


I'm not "kidding you" I don't even understand what you're going on about. Your mayor campaign has nothing to do with why I'm scum reading you, I only pointed out your campaign because keirathi said you were being safe/agreeable and your mayor campaign was not consistent with that. I'm scum reading you because I think your game plan today is scummy.


Which part of my gameplan? I think the only thing I've said is I believe it's more important to find 3 town right now because that's who we are voting for. And I stand by that. Like I know there's a lot of egos in here that need to prove they can find scum on day 1, but a lot of day 1 reads are based on crap. There hasn't been a single case I've read yet that makes me go "yep that's super scummy".

However I think by the end of day 1 I'll have a pretty good idea of 3 people out of 27 that are really oozing town. So that's what I'm more interested in. Does that mean I think we shouldn't scum hunt? No, the scum discussion help reveal who is town who isn't. As I said earlier, scum hunting and figuring out who is town is kinda the same thing to a certain extent. But as town we need to be more focused on making sure the right people get elected today. Because that's what the votes are for today.


If day 1 reads are based on crap then how are you finding townies if not for reasons based on crap?

Step 1 is hunt scum, it isn't election politics and it isn't town reads.

You are obviously right and I don't get why people are still discussing this in a general way.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 28 2015 22:53 GMT
#849
On March 29 2015 07:52 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 07:41 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 29 2015 07:38 ExO_ wrote:
On March 29 2015 07:35 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 29 2015 07:33 ExO_ wrote:
JAT could you give me some actual reads? Like without quoting somebody else and telling me what you thought of their thoughts.

Are you serious?


Yeah. Unless I missed something in the pages I haven't read yet, all you've been doing (in my opinion) is quoting other people and saying what you've thought of their thoughts. That was the case when I went to sleep, and I wake up and here you are again doing the same thing.

Like do you post something that takes information and draws conclusions from it, or do you just thumb up and thumb down everybody elses posts?'

So you missed how I went against Koshi for starters? That has to be the strongest push there was so far and you are telling me you completely missed that?


I read this and clicked your filter, fully expecting to have to come back and apologize for not having read it all yet. I was very mistaken in that thought. Your case on Koshi I don't find compelling at all. Especially the parts where you are okay lynching him even if he is town.

you're filter is about 80% other people's quoted words, 20% your own. You rarely post more than one sentence at a time. To me it looks like you're just taking everyone else's words, saying a few more of your own, and that's it. You're not bringing anything to the table that somebody else doesn't first bring. Except this little "push" on Koshi, and there's hardly anything there to justify it. Other than Koshi can't help but get modkilled sometimes.

The only point I'd agree with you on is it's not right for Koshi wanting to redeem himself by getting lynched. But I don't believe it's scum alignment indicative.

Dang, you must want me dead bro!
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
March 28 2015 22:53 GMT
#850
On March 29 2015 07:52 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 07:41 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 29 2015 07:38 ExO_ wrote:
On March 29 2015 07:35 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 29 2015 07:33 ExO_ wrote:
JAT could you give me some actual reads? Like without quoting somebody else and telling me what you thought of their thoughts.

Are you serious?


Yeah. Unless I missed something in the pages I haven't read yet, all you've been doing (in my opinion) is quoting other people and saying what you've thought of their thoughts. That was the case when I went to sleep, and I wake up and here you are again doing the same thing.

Like do you post something that takes information and draws conclusions from it, or do you just thumb up and thumb down everybody elses posts?'

So you missed how I went against Koshi for starters? That has to be the strongest push there was so far and you are telling me you completely missed that?


I read this and clicked your filter, fully expecting to have to come back and apologize for not having read it all yet. I was very mistaken in that thought. Your case on Koshi I don't find compelling at all. Especially the parts where you are okay lynching him even if he is town.

you're filter is about 80% other people's quoted words, 20% your own. You rarely post more than one sentence at a time. To me it looks like you're just taking everyone else's words, saying a few more of your own, and that's it. You're not bringing anything to the table that somebody else doesn't first bring. Except this little "push" on Koshi, and there's hardly anything there to justify it. Other than Koshi can't help but get modkilled sometimes.

The only point I'd agree with you on is it's not right for Koshi wanting to redeem himself by getting lynched. But I don't believe it's scum alignment indicative.

So why does this make me scum or do you just have a problem with the way I play? Because this is the way I play and I had success with it. I won't change it for you.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 28 2015 22:55 GMT
#851
"succes"
I had a good night of sleep.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
March 28 2015 22:56 GMT
#852
On March 29 2015 07:55 Koshi wrote:
"succes"

Thanks sweetheart.
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
March 28 2015 22:56 GMT
#853
On March 29 2015 07:51 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 07:45 ExO_ wrote:
On March 29 2015 07:38 batsnacks wrote:
On March 29 2015 07:25 ExO_ wrote:
On March 29 2015 07:11 batsnacks wrote:
On March 29 2015 07:04 Keirathi wrote:
On March 29 2015 06:57 batsnacks wrote:
On March 29 2015 06:50 Keirathi wrote:
VE: There's basically no way a scum ExO made that post I was talking about. Scum marv/rayn/hf/jat? Absolutely. But look at all of his other posts. That's the only post where he's being snarky, everything else is him posting cautiously/carefully.

Hmm...how to say what I'm trying to say...

Basically, in general if people are posting cautiously/carefully as scum, they don't suddenly break out into snark-mode just to poke at one of the vets. I find it very, very unlikely that ExO_ did that "just to find something to call out" as you put it.


What about exo's filter made you feel like he was posting cautiously/carefully?

On March 28 2015 11:56 ExO_ wrote:
On March 28 2015 11:53 rsoultin wrote:
On March 28 2015 11:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 28 2015 10:54 rsoultin wrote:
[quote]

get out of my head xP

*gets on ur head instead*

Have a taste of ur own medicine woman!


nuuu!

-sits on head- my throne! mine!



leaning town on lightningstrike lol his usual metaread for me is "she's too happy to be scum" so i can believe he thinks he's right here. more to the point, i don't see a scum!lightningstrike being this aggressive


idk in Guardians he did something similar with "meta" reads when he said something along the lines of "I think ExO is town based on the Student Game we played last". Granted, now he's reading scum where in Guardians he was reading me as town.

Still doing that same silly kinda meta reading back to back as scum would be silly, so maybe I'm just over thinking it.


On March 28 2015 20:48 ExO_ wrote:
I think we're getting a bit distracted. The little squabble HF/Rsoultin is having isn't being productive right now. And while it's important to find scum I think it's more important to focus on who we're electing today. It's a bit rough right now since this game seems to really be off to a slow star and we've yet to here from a lot of people.


On March 28 2015 22:10 ExO_ wrote:
On March 28 2015 21:41 Holyflare wrote:
Bla bla mechanics. Tell me what you got from interactions don't ignore what I'm saying artanis


I've gotten very little. I'm leaning town on rsoultin. I lean town on you as well, but not as much as rsoultin.

Everybody else? Almost nothing. If you held a gun to my head and told me to pick scum I'd probably say JAT right now. He's answering questions and responding which I like, but he's not really adding information. He's not offering anything just reacting to what's there. It's the kinda thing that I think looks decent but isn't really helping town at all.


Basically he's just hiding around the sidelines saying soft/safe/obvious things. It's all very different from that one post where he called VE out.


I thought the mayor campaign was pretty loud and out there but I see what you're saying I think with the safe/obvious things. That said I still don't understand town reading him.

Like, maybe you can null read him because he has contributed more to talk about than others? I personally don't understand town reading him though.


I had a lot of fun posting the fallout propaganda. And yeah I'd love it if somebody said "that was cool, I'll elect ExO over it". But I wasn't honestly expecting it. That being said:

Are you kidding me? ofc I want mayor (or warrior/rogue/cleric in this case). No offense, but I trust myself more than anybody else here. I'm not in the "TL mafia cool kids club" so me getting elected is practically impossible, but that's not gonna stop me from at least trying to get mayor. I agree with doing a community vote, and getting people elected who are going to do what the entire town wants. I know I'll follow it. But half the people here in TL mafia think they are the smartest people in the world and won't do what the majority wants because "they know better".


I'm not "kidding you" I don't even understand what you're going on about. Your mayor campaign has nothing to do with why I'm scum reading you, I only pointed out your campaign because keirathi said you were being safe/agreeable and your mayor campaign was not consistent with that. I'm scum reading you because I think your game plan today is scummy.


Which part of my gameplan? I think the only thing I've said is I believe it's more important to find 3 town right now because that's who we are voting for. And I stand by that. Like I know there's a lot of egos in here that need to prove they can find scum on day 1, but a lot of day 1 reads are based on crap. There hasn't been a single case I've read yet that makes me go "yep that's super scummy".

However I think by the end of day 1 I'll have a pretty good idea of 3 people out of 27 that are really oozing town. So that's what I'm more interested in. Does that mean I think we shouldn't scum hunt? No, the scum discussion help reveal who is town who isn't. As I said earlier, scum hunting and figuring out who is town is kinda the same thing to a certain extent. But as town we need to be more focused on making sure the right people get elected today. Because that's what the votes are for today.


If day 1 reads are based on crap then how are you finding townies if not for reasons based on crap?

Step 1 is hunt scum, it isn't election politics and it isn't town reads.


Because townies generally put more time and effort into their posts. They question and try to solve the game. And I want to make sure the people doing that get elected.

I guess scum hunting is solving the game, again that's why I kinda said it's one in the same. It's just more important to me to make sure I find and identify the most town people for day 1, than to be super set on the scum cases.
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
March 28 2015 22:57 GMT
#854
On March 29 2015 07:53 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 07:52 ExO_ wrote:
On March 29 2015 07:41 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 29 2015 07:38 ExO_ wrote:
On March 29 2015 07:35 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 29 2015 07:33 ExO_ wrote:
JAT could you give me some actual reads? Like without quoting somebody else and telling me what you thought of their thoughts.

Are you serious?


Yeah. Unless I missed something in the pages I haven't read yet, all you've been doing (in my opinion) is quoting other people and saying what you've thought of their thoughts. That was the case when I went to sleep, and I wake up and here you are again doing the same thing.

Like do you post something that takes information and draws conclusions from it, or do you just thumb up and thumb down everybody elses posts?'

So you missed how I went against Koshi for starters? That has to be the strongest push there was so far and you are telling me you completely missed that?


I read this and clicked your filter, fully expecting to have to come back and apologize for not having read it all yet. I was very mistaken in that thought. Your case on Koshi I don't find compelling at all. Especially the parts where you are okay lynching him even if he is town.

you're filter is about 80% other people's quoted words, 20% your own. You rarely post more than one sentence at a time. To me it looks like you're just taking everyone else's words, saying a few more of your own, and that's it. You're not bringing anything to the table that somebody else doesn't first bring. Except this little "push" on Koshi, and there's hardly anything there to justify it. Other than Koshi can't help but get modkilled sometimes.

The only point I'd agree with you on is it's not right for Koshi wanting to redeem himself by getting lynched. But I don't believe it's scum alignment indicative.

So why does this make me scum or do you just have a problem with the way I play? Because this is the way I play and I had success with it. I won't change it for you.


I think you're making a lot of low effort posts that increase filter size without actually saying much or adding to town. You're not really scum hunting, or offering any new ideas, only quoting other people's ideas.

Therefore yes, I think it's scummy.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 28 2015 22:58 GMT
#855
Generality does not equal a guarantee

DO YOU WANNA LYNCH ME EXO_??!?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
March 28 2015 22:59 GMT
#856
On March 29 2015 07:57 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 07:53 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 29 2015 07:52 ExO_ wrote:
On March 29 2015 07:41 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 29 2015 07:38 ExO_ wrote:
On March 29 2015 07:35 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 29 2015 07:33 ExO_ wrote:
JAT could you give me some actual reads? Like without quoting somebody else and telling me what you thought of their thoughts.

Are you serious?


Yeah. Unless I missed something in the pages I haven't read yet, all you've been doing (in my opinion) is quoting other people and saying what you've thought of their thoughts. That was the case when I went to sleep, and I wake up and here you are again doing the same thing.

Like do you post something that takes information and draws conclusions from it, or do you just thumb up and thumb down everybody elses posts?'

So you missed how I went against Koshi for starters? That has to be the strongest push there was so far and you are telling me you completely missed that?


I read this and clicked your filter, fully expecting to have to come back and apologize for not having read it all yet. I was very mistaken in that thought. Your case on Koshi I don't find compelling at all. Especially the parts where you are okay lynching him even if he is town.

you're filter is about 80% other people's quoted words, 20% your own. You rarely post more than one sentence at a time. To me it looks like you're just taking everyone else's words, saying a few more of your own, and that's it. You're not bringing anything to the table that somebody else doesn't first bring. Except this little "push" on Koshi, and there's hardly anything there to justify it. Other than Koshi can't help but get modkilled sometimes.

The only point I'd agree with you on is it's not right for Koshi wanting to redeem himself by getting lynched. But I don't believe it's scum alignment indicative.

So why does this make me scum or do you just have a problem with the way I play? Because this is the way I play and I had success with it. I won't change it for you.


I think you're making a lot of low effort posts that increase filter size without actually saying much or adding to town. You're not really scum hunting, or offering any new ideas, only quoting other people's ideas.

Therefore yes, I think it's scummy.

Open any of my towngames and see how my posts look like there and then tell me that it is scummy again. If you can only work with big listposts and wall of texts that says more about you than about me.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 28 2015 23:00 GMT
#857
On March 29 2015 03:48 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 03:47 kitaman27 wrote:
On March 29 2015 03:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
Anyway I still like a sicklucker lynch.


So you're assuming the vet claim is likely a mafia motivated way for him to appear town or is there more to it?

Is he the type of mafia player that role claims out of the blue hours into the game? That usually points to town, no?


In one of the student mafia gam I believe SL claimed blue early into d1, though he didn't hard claim I believe


I claimed tracker day1 in your game...? as town because town didnt listen to me and I was madz
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
March 28 2015 23:01 GMT
#858
Saying I did not scumhunt is the most ridiculous thing I heard in a while btw.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 28 2015 23:02 GMT
#859
I honestly dont understand the scum reads on me because I did something I would never do as mafia in 1000 years. So slight scum lean on yamato/ve etc. Hf calling me a 3rd party makes total sense and I very well might be. Town points for him.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
March 28 2015 23:03 GMT
#860
On March 29 2015 08:02 sicklucker wrote:
I honestly dont understand the scum reads on me because I did something I would never do as mafia in 1000 years. So slight scum lean on yamato/ve etc. Hf calling me a 3rd party makes total sense and I very well might be. Town points for him.

Why is it towny to call you 3rd party if you supposedly are? Don't you think getting that correct would be way easier for mafia?
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