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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
March 29 2015 17:49 GMT
#1614
On March 30 2015 02:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 02:44 kitaman27 wrote:
For the record, I still welcome any and all votes to send me on an adventure.

Kita vote for VE bro I gots a sick case on the mafias! Check it out!


Eh from your list I'm towny on three, towny-null on one, and null on the remaining two so if by sick you mean vomit inducing then I guess you're technically correct.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
March 29 2015 17:54 GMT
#1627
On March 30 2015 02:50 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 16:06 Trfel wrote:
First off, apologies for this post being short. I'm rather sleepy, and I'm really busy tomorrow, so I can't guarantee much more from me until after the deadline.

I'm not convinced that LightningStrike is scum here. He made a bunch of null reads, but his early push on rsoultin was rather townie. He seems to be trying hard in this game, and I don't want to lynch him.

For now, I think that Holyflare is the best vote. He seems very towny, and he has been actively leading the thread. He's also said many of the same thoughts that I have had. His lynch candidates also generally line up with mine. I also trust Holyflare with whatever abilities are given to him by the adventuring party role.

##vote Holyflare

I personally like a sicklucker lynch. He's basically claimed third party.

As for Hapahauli: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.........................

I don't want to lynch Half the Sky yet, either. I am fairly confident in reading her in a longer game, using the tell that Holyflare developed: "boring Half the Sky is mafia". I am not convinced that Half the Sky has been given enough time to be interesting in this game yet.

I don't like this post at all and I have no idea how this guy could make HFs townlist after this.


I have Trfel on my leaning mafia list as well, based on his earlier post:

On March 29 2015 10:39 kitaman27 wrote:
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On March 29 2015 06:25 Trfel wrote:
ExO_

ExO_'s decision to run for the adventuring party was very delayed.


How so? He announces it right at the start. I don't quite understand what you are saying here.

Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 06:25 Trfel wrote:
[*]As mafia, sicklucker's claim is intended to try to get elected to the adventuring party, and to explain why he is not night killed in this game.


If sicklucker almost never gets shot, why are you saying that he would need to explain why he is not night killed? I doubt anyone would find it suspicious if he is alive after a few nights.

Also, you say his going is to get elected and then point out he doesn't push it very hard. Why does it make sense from the mafia perspective here if that's his goal, but not town?



I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
March 29 2015 17:56 GMT
#1631
On March 30 2015 02:55 Holyflare wrote:
I absolutely do not want koshi as a rogue though that's just the biggest liability in the history of mafia


Vote your 100% town as rogue.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
March 29 2015 18:06 GMT
#1645
On March 30 2015 00:27 LightningStrike wrote:
I didn't play in the last Aperture tbh with you and the fact no one tried to counterclaim my claim should speak for itself that I am Commissioner Gordon (Flavor is Batman in this game and he was a good guy there).


On March 29 2015 13:36 Hapahauli wrote:
I'm so popular!

*giggles*


I'm not sure that this means a ton since a bad guy role doesn't necessarily point to being mafia, but maybe it means more to someone else. I came across this.

http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Giggles_(New_Adventures_of_Batman)
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
March 29 2015 18:34 GMT
#1710
On March 30 2015 03:33 justanothertownie wrote:
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On March 30 2015 03:32 Holyflare wrote:
like seriously it's not fucking hard jat, why do you love to be an obnoxious prick all the time

just tell me who you think is mafia and who you think is town and why, you can't complain there are no candidates because that just means you don't have any reads which means you are actually mafia

hahahahahahaha


I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
March 29 2015 18:44 GMT
#1731
On March 30 2015 03:41 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 03:39 Holyflare wrote:
On March 30 2015 03:39 ritoky wrote:
On March 30 2015 03:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On March 30 2015 03:34 ritoky wrote:
alright boys, I see bats voted for me, that's enough to land him on my town list.

town:
ritoky
rsoul
ls
sl
hapa
yamato
batsnacks

3/10 slots left, I need people to convince me of town reads.

also vote me and I will lynch HtS, cleric seems okay too though.


How are ls and hapa in your townlist?


ls is an uncc'd cop, plus he said shit that was so utterly dumb that it reminded me of the time I made the "comma read" on him and he was town.

hapa did some shit where people asked him questions and he quoted good posts and only that, was town as fuk.


you had ls on your town list before he was an uncc'd cop... what was your reason before


he said something too utterly stupid to be mafia. he is easy to catch as mafia cuz he edits his posts a lot.

seriously though, I am not joking I need people to give me 3 more town.


Hi!
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
March 29 2015 19:30 GMT
#1814
On March 30 2015 04:20 Hapahauli wrote:
Also HF, you need to chill. I can't read a 90 page game in 15 minutes.


Can you let us know when you are caught up? Thanks.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
March 29 2015 19:35 GMT
#1821
On March 30 2015 04:31 Hapahauli wrote:
Furthermore, you're not really understanding what I"m trying to say about Trefl in general. Sicklucker post was good on its own. Paired with the 2nd, it is bad.


I actually found the post on sicklucker to not make much sense, as I commented earlier. Perhaps you can take a look at what I said and explain what makes it good.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
March 29 2015 19:42 GMT
#1832
Since Holyflare is currently leading the mayor vote, I figured that I'd share that I've been masoned with him for a large part of day one. I chose him since he was a likely election winner and the more information the better.

Points of interest:
-Claims he is disconnected from the game. That doesn't seem to be the case, but maybe he was just feeling down at the time.
-Hard defends me by claiming that I'm 100% town during the koshi/hapa episode. I found this strange since he mentioned that I "feel off to him, pretty disengaged with what he's pushing". I questioned what changed his mind and he responded that I was null and he was taking an irrational stance for the sake of discussion. I'm not sure if anything came as a result of this, aside from maybe snarf taking the read as fact. JAT called out the town read on me and I was hoping that he would pull up the earlier quotes in the filter when I questioned him about it, but he did not.
-I mentioned my displeasure with the Trfel post and he took the time to go read by read explaining his thoughts on each player there. I brought up Trfel in PMs he said that he would need to to check out how well Trfel is capable of playing as mafia. He posts his town read in the thread and then when I question him about it, he reveals that he was mistaken and took a look at his past mafia game. This was the exchange that I was the most concerned about since he said he came to a conclusion before looking at something he was going to base his conclusion on. To be fair, he did say that Trfel was looking town before this point though.
-Shares that batsnacks could be mafia. I share suspicion about batsnacks and he hard defends him as town. Batsnacks did not have any posts during this period, but when I question HF about this he explains that he simply looked into him further at this point.
-I question his decision to lynch LS because he looked townie to me and he refers back to the earlier post he made. After the role claim, he seems included to trust the claim, which I agree with.
-I asked him whether or not BH would risk a modkill with the koshi interaction and he doesn't seem too concerned.
-Takes a while to show any interest in my alignment, but he does eventually ask for a list of reads and shares his thoughts about them. We seem somewhat close regarding the people we are suspicious of. He still doesn't seem willing to trust me completely, which is admittedly disappointing.
-There were signs that he was spending time looking at things without being prompted to do so.
-The sudden desire to not be mayor I find strange. I assumed he was more interested in the rogue powers than the liability of selecting the mayoral lynch. This part may not be all that alignment indicative though.

Obviously HF it a tough player to read, so I wouldn't feel confident enough to claim town/mafia based on a few PMs. The actions are going to be more important. While there are a few things that I found strange enough to not make him my top town read and I'd much prefer to have myself elected, his top couple of reads I tend to agree with and there is some degree of effort in his posts so I wouldn't be oppossed to his election. I'm fairly towny on rsoultin, but my preference would probably be to stick her at rogue (assuming people aren't willing to put me in the top 3).
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
March 29 2015 19:48 GMT
#1837
On March 30 2015 04:45 Koshi wrote:
Also, we are not electing Kita or Hapa.

Never.

No fucking way they get it for "trying a couple hours"

THIS IS THE TIME MAFIA WILL TRY HARDEST. GIVE IT TO SOMBODY WHO TRIED THE ENTIRE CYCLE. rsoultin/obiwan are good clerics. rsoultin/JAT/Koshi/HF for top position then I guess.


There was a couple hour period where I was mostly just in and out of the thread while watching sports, but aside from that you can't say I haven't tried this cycle, because its not true. Don't put me and hapa in the same boat.

On March 30 2015 04:45 Koshi wrote:
@kitaman27
Another odd thing is that ritoky isn't reading HF as town.


Maybe, generally I'm inclined to trust people that are open about their roles on day one.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
March 29 2015 19:51 GMT
#1845
On March 30 2015 04:49 ritoky wrote:
question for you kita:

I have been masoned with HF before where he fooled me hard. Did he prompt more discussion in the mason thread or did you prompt more discussion? Who was asking the questions/giving out info more?


I felt that I was bringing up more discussion points than he was, though it wasn't completely one sided.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
March 29 2015 19:56 GMT
#1856
On March 30 2015 04:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 04:52 Chezitwo wrote:
On March 30 2015 04:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Jat, how do you have Trfel and Hapa as possible lynches if Hapa wants to lynch Trfel?

why not?


I am of the impression that scumteams generally don't lynch into themselves without good reason to do so.


What is your opinion on hapa and BH since they are being brought up the most?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
March 29 2015 20:02 GMT
#1868
On March 30 2015 04:50 justanothertownie wrote:
Possible lynches:
Trfel
Damdred
Crossfire
Hapa
BH


The list I gave to HF was Trfel, Damdred, hapa, BH, batsnacks, yamato.

I don't remember why I crossed off xfire, but I do know that I did at one point. Anything to add on this one?

I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
March 29 2015 20:06 GMT
#1878
On March 30 2015 05:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
Also LAWL at Kita choosing the hardest person in the game to mason with.


Aside from the difficulty with figuring him out, are you saying he is not a good person to bounce ideas off of if he is indeed town?

On March 30 2015 05:03 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 05:02 kitaman27 wrote:
On March 30 2015 04:50 justanothertownie wrote:
Possible lynches:
Trfel
Damdred
Crossfire
Hapa
BH


The list I gave to HF was Trfel, Damdred, hapa, BH, batsnacks, yamato.

I don't remember why I crossed off xfire, but I do know that I did at one point. Anything to add on this one?


lol nvm what a joker


Wait...I....uhhh......I never said that was a scum list. Maybe you're about to win a prize? Please don't leave me
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
March 29 2015 21:34 GMT
#2084
On March 29 2015 06:25 Trfel wrote:
[*]As mafia, sicklucker's claim is intended to try to get elected to the adventuring party, and to explain why he is not night killed in this game.


On March 29 2015 06:25 Trfel wrote:
Sicklucker didn't make any effort to push his campaign for the adventuring party.


On March 29 2015 06:25 Trfel wrote:
sicklucker himself stated that he never gets night killed.


On March 30 2015 04:31 Hapahauli wrote:
Furthermore, you're not really understanding what I"m trying to say about Trefl in general. Sicklucker post was good on its own. Paired with the 2nd, it is bad.


While I share your opinion about Trefl, I don't understand how you can say the sicklucker post was good on its own.

Based on the three quotes above, how does the justification for a mafia sicklucker look good, when he refutes it in his own set of posts?

As I was telling HF, your townyness usually becomes apparent if you actually put effort in the game and get shot shortly after. Do you intend to use PMs to their fullest extent tonight and be active on day two or do you anticipate being unavailable?

On March 30 2015 06:27 Blazinghand wrote:
Hmm, I'm still not feeling too secure here, I guess I should claim?


I'd like that.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
March 29 2015 21:38 GMT
#2099
On March 30 2015 06:36 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 06:32 Koshi wrote:
That being said. I have 0 problems with a snarf shot. But I need to know why the fuck we are lynching him because I haven't heard anybody say something really smart about a snarf lynch.

kita hapa hf JAT

What are your opinions on this snarf lynch?

I want them on paper. I want to read them.


Eh. I think he looks "objectively bad." First post is a "say nothing" intro post, followed by a great deal of weak town reads.

That being said, it makes sense that he'd do something like this, given that his priorities today seem to be voting for a "town" lynch party.

I think lynching him is a coinflip. Not a terrible coinflip, but I'd lynch Trfel or Sepul over him any day. WoS... I'd like to see him alive another day as I think there's some margin for error in my read there.


While the idea is bad in theory, do you think a mafia Sepul opens by saying "Finding mafia would be a plus, but seems secondary"?
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
March 29 2015 21:49 GMT
#2132
On March 30 2015 06:40 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 06:38 kitaman27 wrote:
On March 30 2015 06:36 Hapahauli wrote:
On March 30 2015 06:32 Koshi wrote:
That being said. I have 0 problems with a snarf shot. But I need to know why the fuck we are lynching him because I haven't heard anybody say something really smart about a snarf lynch.

kita hapa hf JAT

What are your opinions on this snarf lynch?

I want them on paper. I want to read them.


Eh. I think he looks "objectively bad." First post is a "say nothing" intro post, followed by a great deal of weak town reads.

That being said, it makes sense that he'd do something like this, given that his priorities today seem to be voting for a "town" lynch party.

I think lynching him is a coinflip. Not a terrible coinflip, but I'd lynch Trfel or Sepul over him any day. WoS... I'd like to see him alive another day as I think there's some margin for error in my read there.


While the idea is bad in theory, do you think a mafia Sepul opens by saying "Finding mafia would be a plus, but seems secondary"?


Plausibly. Sepul is brand new after all.

But that also has very little to do with why I'm suspicious of him. I'm more concerned with how he arrived on voting Vayne (after saying how his priorities were to find townies for positions "3 and 1").


Perhaps, but I dont think that's a big enough deal to have him in your top 2.

@Koshi, I'm null on snarfs. First policy post was bad, vote on chez doesn't bother me too much. He has been mostly inactive since early day one so he wouldn't be my preferred lynch.

@rsoultin If I were in your position, I would shoot BH....probably followed by Trfel .
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
March 29 2015 21:54 GMT
#2149
On March 30 2015 06:33 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 06:28 Blazinghand wrote:
On March 30 2015 06:27 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On March 30 2015 06:27 Blazinghand wrote:
Hmm, I'm still not feeling too secure here, I guess I should claim?


Answer my question?

Are you even reading this thread at all?


You're not the boss of me

also, I'm afraid to read snarf's filter, cause what if i read his filter and be like "hey this dude is town" then people are gonna lynch me instead right

I swear I have KP knowledge if I am willing to risk a few things, listen to me!

If this happens, the lyncher is going to die. BH can't get lynched look elsewhere.

Now, if you listen to me I'm good but if rsoultin decides to disbelieve me I will also need protection or I will also die a later cycle.


Was this by choice or were you tied to BH via the mod? If you did choose to tie yourself to him, please explain your reasoning.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
March 29 2015 21:56 GMT
#2156
On March 30 2015 05:48 Blazinghand wrote:
ok fine let's kill snarfs then

as long as we're not killing me I'm good honestly. I don't really have reads since this thread is a monstrosity and every time I leave for a half day I come back and there's 50 pages of "wat"


@rsoul ignoring the implications from slam, are you really content with allowing a player who has only spoke about koshi, his role, and the post above?
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
March 29 2015 21:58 GMT
#2158
On March 30 2015 05:34 Hapahauli wrote:
No no, not lynching BH.

Bad JAT. Bad.


Could you justify this post hapa? When referencing several other players, you attack them for not looking for mafia. Why is BH the exception?
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