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On March 30 2015 23:32 justanothertownie wrote: HTS are you seriously questioning why people didn't want to lynch BH eod? My mistake, I'd forgotten about the BH claim when I was going through the filter. HF's filter seemed jumpy just reading it though, even leaving BH out of the argument I was trying to connect his thought process from going from hapa to sl. | ||
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On March 30 2015 23:47 batsnacks wrote: You might question RS then who went from snarf, to trfel, to SL without any of them posting and almost won the election. If I recall right, she was going based off thread sentiment entirely. I'm positive it was thread sentiment for her vote and not a positive read. | ||
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On March 30 2015 06:48 rsoultin wrote: he is i don't have a ton of strong scumreads at the moment Approx 20 mins later, same page of filter. Another 20m later in response to you (Bats) On March 30 2015 07:21 rsoultin wrote: i think both are decent lynches. snarfs for the odd posting around hapa and the blah townread on chez i believe it was truffle cause while earlier i thought the whole 3p thing was more null than scum, the instant belief in sicklucker's claim is odd which all isn't terribly important since as i've said multiple times now, i'm going with the majority vote i've also confirmed that i can change the lynch as long as it's not too close to deadline Bats, she's giving reasons for her reads, even if the content was so little. I interpret this as having an equal pool of reads (can lynch from anyone in this group because she feels they are equally scumlike) and on page 10 of her filter she's saying multiple times she is willing to listen to the rest of town to lynch. I'm not sure I see anything wrong with this provided that her choices were in line with town's. | ||
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On March 31 2015 03:53 Holyflare wrote: basically he did some qq about being demotivated and gave us his role so probably a good lynch yeh LOL. I hope some town blue or third party that is able is reading this and takes him out ASAP. And HF, if true, I would think he's more than "probably" a good lynch, more like lynch it with fire category  | ||
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Have your thoughts on Damdred changed any based on what you said on him before? Unless I misunderstood he appeared to be your strongest scumread. | ||
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I'm assuming he comes from a TL era where people aren't or didn't post as much as the current meta, at least based on this. On March 30 2015 07:44 Crossfire99 wrote: I'm still here Vayne. Reading and trying to understand the craziness and who exactly should be lynched. If I'm wrong, shout. I've also never played a game with him, either so I'm disregarding meta. On March 29 2015 12:21 Crossfire99 wrote: I don't feel like doing that much work nor do I think it will be particularly helpful. I haven't played with a decent number of the players here and I doubt I'd be able to really understand each person's meta. I'm not the greatest at reading meta for people I haven't played with a lot and trying to determine meta from just reading filters is pretty difficult and can lead to erroneous conclusions because I don't understand the context. On March 30 2015 07:54 Crossfire99 wrote: I looked at his the filter lengths from other games and he's put up 8ish pages on day 1 in linux and 11 in slytherin by day 2. He was scum in both and was dead for the rest of those games. He had 8 and 10 in PYP protoss and horn as town for both dying in days 2 and 1 respectively. I'm not sure if we can make a determination just based off of day 1 here. I think it will take longer to figure out based on filter length. I'm also wondering though if he's smart enough to post in a way he could get by as scum. I don't see too many original ideas on his end, and whilst his "I don't want to do that much work" made sense in the context of LS's response - to be fair LS has been criticised for not expanding on meta reads instead of just throwing entire filters - he's not pushing too much work in the way of his filter at all. Can someone who has had experience with Crossfire expand on his gameplay? On filter length alone I'm giving him the BoD, but on content, I'm not seeing much he couldn't be replicating as either alignment. | ||
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In the current meta, filter length is being made as an argument for scumreading someone, and there are players that I think we need to look beyond that (such as Kita, who is not a spammer for instance). Call it cautious but that's just my interpretation of the way some people play and based on my experiences with people I've not had a game with before. | ||
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On March 31 2015 04:55 yamato77 wrote: I'd much prefer if we talked about crossfire, btw. HtS just isn't mafia. I think we should. Sleeper scum likely. | ||
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On March 28 2015 08:07 Crossfire99 wrote: I'm probably just going to vote for the person who wants to lynch someone who I think is scum. I don't think we need to get any more complicated than that. Obviously, people will need to say who they want to lynch so we can do that. So we basically just play mafia. Let's start with this first. (bolded) His first two scumreads are LS and Hapa per filter. He is fine with either of them being gone, but then questions HF as to why he wants LS over Hapa. Somewhere discussion of LS falls off, presumably when LS claims (admittedly I havent' checked exactly when LS claimed, just that it's fallen off). He continues to push Hapa and then throws his vote on Holyflare, who was looking to take out sicklucker. In that post he also discusses BH. Now I know Holyflare was looking to eliminate Hapa before yamato told him (accrording to HF) to drop Hapa. If Crossfire voted HF after Holyflare started the anti-sicklucker campaign, then this actually proves that he wouldn't have cared who had gotten lynched especially as he'd gotten on the Hapa train. This is certain scumlike behaviour. I have to go back and search the thread, but this might shed more light on things. But yes Yamato, I do agree. I need to check and confirm, but content wise he looks poor. | ||
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On March 30 2015 06:05 Holyflare wrote: i think we should default lynch sicklucker for having 3 page filter in a 101 page game when his mafia tell that he loves to talk about is having no filter /discuss On March 30 2015 07:19 Holyflare wrote: i will lynch sicklucker for either being mafia or 3p with a good chance of being mafia for having 3 pages of filter because i'd feel like as 3p he's be just as productive as town it also allows all these "coin flip" ppl to talk more On March 30 2015 07:26 Holyflare wrote: a lynch on sl is a lynch on guaranteed not town! Holyflare talks anti-sicklucker for at least 60-90m prior to Crossfire voting him. On March 30 2015 07:39 Crossfire99 wrote: I had to step away, but I'm back now. I see now BH is a target but slam doesn't want him lynched because he and the lyncher will die. Hmmmm. Kita's post on BH looks good and I have a town read on kita, so I'd want BH dead, but not if it kills the lyncher which will probably be rsoultin. I'm thinking of voting for HF because he needs to be in the top 3 because he's town. Yeah, I'll vote for HF now. ##Vote: HolyFlare And no mention of sicklucker or Hapa in the post where he votes Holyflare. Even better he tries to use a filter length argument for defending sicklucker but if he believed HF was making the wrong choice, he should have at least pushed Hapa moreor moved his vote to someone that would have supported whom he felt was scum, just as he said from the off. I checked the vote thread. No such change. It was a soft push against. He's scum. | ||
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On March 31 2015 05:28 justanothertownie wrote: When did he do that? JAT, this is the post I am referring to (attention to bold). According to the timestamps 5m before EoD. On March 30 2015 07:54 Crossfire99 wrote: I looked at his the filter lengths from other games and he's put up 8ish pages on day 1 in linux and 11 in slytherin by day 2. He was scum in both and was dead for the rest of those games. He had 8 and 10 in PYP protoss and horn as town for both dying in days 2 and 1 respectively. I'm not sure if we can make a determination just based off of day 1 here. I think it will take longer to figure out based on filter length. It's not a "hard" defence, but he's trying to dissuade a sicklucker lynch. That's what I'm getting at. | ||
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On March 31 2015 05:33 Blazinghand wrote: so to be clear, Crossfire votes to elect HF while HF is pushing SL, and crossfire has a townread on SL, so he wouldn't try to elect someone who had a scumread on his townread. is that what you're saying? No he doesn't have a townread, but he's dissuading the lynch whereas he was pushing others (Hapa) more strongly. The expectation that he set for himself: On March 28 2015 08:07 Crossfire99 wrote: I'm probably just going to vote for the person who wants to lynch someone who I think is scum. I don't think we need to get any more complicated than that. Obviously, people will need to say who they want to lynch so we can do that. So we basically just play mafia. In essence, it was incongruent with what he said at the beginning. I can understand if his read develops or changes on an individual person or something but this isn't the case. | ||
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