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Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 15 2015 23:18 GMT
#1821
On April 16 2015 08:09 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 07:39 Breshke wrote:
I really think we should actually no lynch here because there is a possibility we will kill the roleblock. It is quite obvious now that our setup is vet/vigi which is the worse one because town can jsut roelblock their kill every night because who cares if the vigi shoots because even if they hit scum it doesn't gain town a misslynch and if they hit town we lose a misslynch.

This being said we can get a misslynch back if we lynch the roleblocker today.

I also think lynching Rso today is great. The most damming thing that makes rso scum is the fact that she has not made a will post either of the nights. I let this slide N1 because she was travelling or whatever but this is something TOWN rso ALWAYS does. The only game she ever didn't do this she was mafia and reflected on it later that she was suprised noone noticed. She doesn't do this as mafia because she obviously does not think she is going to die so does not feel the need to leave information to town in that eventuality.

##Vote Rso


lol you've stated yourself i'm fully aware that i always do this as town, so you're really trying to sell that i wouldn't take special care to do it as scum? that's a terrible reason. you have to do better than that


So why havn't you been making them then? I believe you could easily forget to do them or think that noone in this game would pick up on you not doing them especially since noone mentioned it after N1 when you could have had a legit excuse.

Like who do you even think is mafia other than myself. You just said you thought prp wouldnt case you as scum. I doubt if you think im scum you think shining is scum. I cant see how anyone would think trefel or even tube for that matter is scum. So is your world me, JJB and bourne? I don't think you have been taking steps to work that team out.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 15 2015 23:30 GMT
#1822
On April 12 2015 21:36 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 13:09 Breshke wrote:
holy shit EBWOP
So imagine if stutters is mafia do you think a partner swaps to him there


lol sorry fell asleep >< on the plus side im on track to be home an hour or two before eon so woot

unlikely? 4:7 is actually fairly close...just need 2 vote switches...that said its possible if one of the wasted votes was a scum player lol but i dont see the need for risky plays here?

if it was town/town id look for non-committal type shifts to stutters. maybe hts? and/or wasted votes. prob 1-2 mafia on the main wagon. onegu almost def not scum in that case cause of how vocal he was about the lynch

kk not gonna post overall reads right now cause i think im super behind but top towns at the moment: bresh (revisit if stutters scum) and tube (enthusiasm on dwarf seemed like excited townie thinking hed found something awesome lol)

prp i think i need to reread just cause so many ppl seem to have a diff read? ive been mostly skimming so lol coulda missed something

mmmm shinings entrance last night looked pretty good? wasted vote not so much xP but i dont remember the context for hus vote so yeah

also sidenote bus means scum on scum so...huh?

kk starting the drive now @.@


you guys are boring me, frankly lol ><

it wasn't a list, but it was what i had with the time i had, and i fully expected not to be in before EoN

i also have failed to post legacies for at least one night in
- aperture
- down under 2

now if we're done playing super easy meta to replicate games xP

yes, breshke, i am pretty sure that you are scum, and no i am not sure about the other two right now and i'm not going to make things up just to appease people ^^

truffle and prp are currently the only ones i absolutely wouldn't lynch today lol >< i still really like shining's eod and night phase posting, though
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 15 2015 23:39 GMT
#1823
it's a little rich that you're accusing me of not taking steps to figure out scum, breshke, given your performance day 2 and subsequent disappearance. we've had the conversation before that it's important to talk things out during the night phase. so where were you?

lol >< like the amount of bullshit people are spewing is insane right now, are y'all even reading what you're writing? when did i become hf or marv or fucking koshi that being alive on day 3 and not having lynched scum becomes a problem? look at down under 2...or don't lol >< i don't really care
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 15 2015 23:56 GMT
#1824
On April 16 2015 08:39 rsoultin wrote:
it's a little rich that you're accusing me of not taking steps to figure out scum, breshke, given your performance day 2 and subsequent disappearance. we've had the conversation before that it's important to talk things out during the night phase. so where were you?

lol >< like the amount of bullshit people are spewing is insane right now, are y'all even reading what you're writing? when did i become hf or marv or fucking koshi that being alive on day 3 and not having lynched scum becomes a problem? look at down under 2...or don't lol >< i don't really care


This is a really nice paragraph even though im still fairly certain you are scum. I don't think you really think my D2 was that bad. You asked me for reads and i gave you 3 town reads that i was fairly sure about at the time. ( less sure about JJB right now because of stuff prp has said). Yes i still do agree that it is important to talk stuff through during the night phase but i wasn't really interested in talking with you because i didn't want to mention then will post thing because iw anted to see if you would post one or not.

I think this second paragraph is you being frustrated as scum because people are pushing you for reasons that you dont think make you scum and it is really frustrating you. I dont think anyone wants to lynch you because you havnt lynched mafia. Maybe you are referring to this post.

On April 16 2015 07:04 prplhz wrote:
i can't. rso is scum because she's really good at mafia but she only done mafia things and she's notting putting in that effort she does as town. especially letting two townies getting lynched while acting like she hadn't a clue what a tone read is. anyway i suggest we don't no lynch today, me or rso go go go. i'll tell you the other two scum before i die but i'm a little less sure of them.

shoutout to onegu for getting this right on d1.


I don't think prp means that by the bolded i think he is saying that you still lynched TBD even though all the points he brought against him being town. He would be the best to explain that though.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 15 2015 23:57 GMT
#1825
Rso if you are actually somehow town the ebst thing for you to do here is to present me scum or scum team where you pretend you are reading me town.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 16 2015 00:04 GMT
#1826
On April 16 2015 08:56 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 08:39 rsoultin wrote:
it's a little rich that you're accusing me of not taking steps to figure out scum, breshke, given your performance day 2 and subsequent disappearance. we've had the conversation before that it's important to talk things out during the night phase. so where were you?

lol >< like the amount of bullshit people are spewing is insane right now, are y'all even reading what you're writing? when did i become hf or marv or fucking koshi that being alive on day 3 and not having lynched scum becomes a problem? look at down under 2...or don't lol >< i don't really care


This is a really nice paragraph even though im still fairly certain you are scum. I don't think you really think my D2 was that bad. You asked me for reads and i gave you 3 town reads that i was fairly sure about at the time. ( less sure about JJB right now because of stuff prp has said). Yes i still do agree that it is important to talk stuff through during the night phase but i wasn't really interested in talking with you because i didn't want to mention then will post thing because iw anted to see if you would post one or not.

I think this second paragraph is you being frustrated as scum because people are pushing you for reasons that you dont think make you scum and it is really frustrating you. I dont think anyone wants to lynch you because you havnt lynched mafia. Maybe you are referring to this post.

Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 07:04 prplhz wrote:
i can't. rso is scum because she's really good at mafia but she only done mafia things and she's notting putting in that effort she does as town. especially letting two townies getting lynched while acting like she hadn't a clue what a tone read is. anyway i suggest we don't no lynch today, me or rso go go go. i'll tell you the other two scum before i die but i'm a little less sure of them.

shoutout to onegu for getting this right on d1.


I don't think prp means that by the bolded i think he is saying that you still lynched TBD even though all the points he brought against him being town. He would be the best to explain that though.


oh yes, the breshke who as scum has a terrible time making scumreads only has three townreads and you think that impressed me? lol god i hope you're scum this game ><

i'm town because i'm town. if you've honestly read my filter (the longest fucking one in the game, btw ><) and can still come back with i haven't been working out alignments, even with limited time, that i haven't been pushing things, you're a moron. but you're not a moron, breshke, so keep digging that hole

i love this second paragraph lol

i'm frustrated because i'm scum thinking your reasons to scumread me are terrible? and i wouldn't be frustrated that people are using shit-ass meta and "you lynched town" arguments as town? like when did you stop thinking? you sheeped terrible reasoning on dwarf (love you hts but that was bad ><), you had bourne as scum for what the tbd/plot stuff? actually i'm not sure you mentioned why at all but i'd have to recheck your filter -_- you couldn't even tell me why you thought hts was town lol

and still you're not bothering to look at things from both directions unless i press you! trying to say i'd been townreading you all game

and how does me posting or not posting a legacy have anything to do with talking at night? you didn't have to talk to me -_- that is such bs
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 16 2015 00:06 GMT
#1827
On April 16 2015 08:57 Breshke wrote:
Rso if you are actually somehow town the ebst thing for you to do here is to present me scum or scum team where you pretend you are reading me town.


xP go to hell. 95/100 you saw prp vote me and took your chance. it's completely scum-favored to try for a lynch here, especially me out of your group of three, and you yourself said the best thing is a no-lynch but you voted me anyway? get lost

when i have something to say, i'll say it, and not before
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 16 2015 00:13 GMT
#1828
Okay im not sure if this is the right move but I am the vigi and I shot stutters last night. It was a very poor decision and i hesitated on it because he softed blue earlier and i was worried he was the vet. Then he started pushing me after i tried to hammer someone who he had been scumreading and it just gave me really bad vibes. The bad thing from this shot, we go into mylo the good is that i am quite confident that rso and shining are mafia

Anyway I WILL BE SHOT TONIGHT and i was hoping someone would fake claim this because the fake claim would most likely have been the vet trying to pull a bullet since if we manage to kill the role blocker today that play would have effectively gained us a miss lynch. WHICH IS WHY WE DONT NO LYNCH.

Let me reiterate. The vet does not claim here noone else claims here because mafia HAS TO shoot me else they risk shooting into the vet and if we kill Rso or maybe shining we have a 1/3 shot of killing the role blocker which effectively means if the vet ever gets shot we gain a misslynch,.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 16 2015 00:14 GMT
#1829
Do you understand now rso why i wasn't psoting in the night. All the conversation would have been about weather ui was scum or not which is useless because i can confirm myself because im a role
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 16 2015 00:18 GMT
#1830
On April 16 2015 09:14 Breshke wrote:
Do you understand now rso why i wasn't psoting in the night. All the conversation would have been about weather ui was scum or not which is useless because i can confirm myself because im a role


lol >< you're a fucking imbecile if you're actually the vig this game, is all i have to say

don't CC if he fake-claimed, vig -_-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 16 2015 00:19 GMT
#1831
and no that's a shit reason not to post at night, unless you're certain you're not going to be shot by scum, breshke ^^ try again
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 16 2015 00:21 GMT
#1832
On April 16 2015 09:19 rsoultin wrote:
and no that's a shit reason not to post at night, unless you're certain you're not going to be shot by scum, breshke ^^ try again


EBWOP:

to clarify, the conversation was still about whether you were scum or not, so clearly that wasn't your reason for not posting -yawns- like the obvious reason for not posting if you're actually vig you somehow haven't lighted on
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 16 2015 00:22 GMT
#1833
On April 16 2015 09:18 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 09:14 Breshke wrote:
Do you understand now rso why i wasn't psoting in the night. All the conversation would have been about weather ui was scum or not which is useless because i can confirm myself because im a role


lol >< you're a fucking imbecile if you're actually the vig this game, is all i have to say

don't CC if he fake-claimed, vig -_-


Why am i an imbecile?
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 16 2015 00:24 GMT
#1834
On April 16 2015 09:22 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 09:18 rsoultin wrote:
On April 16 2015 09:14 Breshke wrote:
Do you understand now rso why i wasn't psoting in the night. All the conversation would have been about weather ui was scum or not which is useless because i can confirm myself because im a role


lol >< you're a fucking imbecile if you're actually the vig this game, is all i have to say

don't CC if he fake-claimed, vig -_-


Why am i an imbecile?


because we should be no-lynching today, if we're going for optimal plays, and you've just defeated one of the main purposes for that ^^ good job
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 16 2015 00:25 GMT
#1835
On April 16 2015 09:24 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 09:22 Breshke wrote:
On April 16 2015 09:18 rsoultin wrote:
On April 16 2015 09:14 Breshke wrote:
Do you understand now rso why i wasn't psoting in the night. All the conversation would have been about weather ui was scum or not which is useless because i can confirm myself because im a role


lol >< you're a fucking imbecile if you're actually the vig this game, is all i have to say

don't CC if he fake-claimed, vig -_-


Why am i an imbecile?


because we should be no-lynching today, if we're going for optimal plays, and you've just defeated one of the main purposes for that ^^ good job


Explain?? If we dont lynch it is impossible for us to kill the roleblocker and if we dont kill the role blocker the vet is useless as fuck. Especially since vigi shot has already gone off
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
April 16 2015 00:26 GMT
#1836
On April 16 2015 07:04 prplhz wrote:
i can't. rsoso is scum because she's really good at mafia but she only done mafia things and she's notting putting in that effort she does as town. especially letting two townies getting lynched while acting like she hadn't a clue what a tone read is. anyway i suggest we don't no lynch today, me or rso go go go. i'll tell you the other two scum before i die but i'm a little less sure of them.

shoutout to onegu for getting this right on d1.



I'm just about done so here goes nothing. I essentially took myself out of this game, morale wise.

No lynching is stupid. [B]##Unvote[b]

It was said already but all we gain by a no lynch is one less strong town read and a leader. We're better off putting our all into finding scum and trying to salvage this game.


I didn't realize how hard it would be to replace, I know now for the future. I also know not to follow my gut instincts because I'm wrong a decent amount of time. I'm the vig. I'm really sorry, town, I might have thrown this. We either have a vet or a medic. If medic, protect me tonight.

If vet, don't claim. If we lynch scum today, I die tonight but they will still risk shooting you following night phase and buying town one more day phase.

I think prpl could possibly be scum. The push on RSo looks bad to me. From what I've read of prpl's meta, I find it interesting he'd scum RSo for essentially the same things he's done. They have similar filter lengths but he's claiming she's doing nothing and let two townies die. But he was voting Stutters D1(confirmed town) & Bourneq before AFKing EoD. So he "let" townies die, too. And he hasn't done anything of note that screams town. If anything, his moodiness fits his scum meta. And the case he put on RSo could be applied to him, as well.

Breshke is still my strongest scumread. And his weird switch at eod still makes no sense to me, however I spin it. It really isn't far fetched to think they're scumming together(Purp Bresh). Feels like he's trying to end the game here by sheeping Prpl onto RSo.

And I just checked the thread and this guy claimed Vig. Yep total scum.

##Vote: Breshke
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
April 16 2015 00:27 GMT
#1837
Ebwop:

##unvote
##Vote: Breshke
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 16 2015 00:27 GMT
#1838
Okay this is easy now i rescind my vigi claim. Real vigi feel free to CC the shining.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 16 2015 00:29 GMT
#1839
lol im surprised that worked. The shinign why would you shoot stutters? I assume my guess was right and it was stutters you shot else you wouldnt have CC'd. Im soe xcited for the real vigi to come and CC oh man
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 16 2015 00:30 GMT
#1840
On April 16 2015 06:41 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 06:39 Bourneq wrote:
Explain to me please what we achiev with not lynching? Newbie question im sure but I need to know before I cast a vote.


it's more time to look into everything (which is why i said we need to be active) basically buys 72 hours

it also forces scum to make another nk which gives more information...and then there are two blue roles who can claim day 4 to narrow the pool down further, assuming scum doesn't hit one of them night 3. strategically it's just better?


whenever you decide to actually start reading this game, please let me know -_-

you're either scum, in which case this doesn't matter at all so disregard

or you're town, and we have exactly one mislynch left. which means oh brilliant one that unless you're 100% sure i'm scum and you're not throwing right now based on shit reasons, it's objectively better to have a smaller lynch pool with two blues who can claim day 4 than to out yourself (assuming you're even the vigi) right now

effectively, if you are the vig, you're an idiot ^^ i don't think you're an idiot but lol >< i can see this play from town, too, strangely enough which is why the real vig absolutely SHOULD NOT CC if breshke fake-claimed
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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