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On April 16 2015 11:59 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2015 11:57 Trfel wrote:
HAHAHAHAHA THIS IS AMAZING
I COUNTERCLAIM VIGILANTE XD And before you ask, of course I'm joking. The only real conclusion to be drawn from this is that Breshke and The Shining decided to make this game even more of a nightmare than it already is. I have a history paper due tomorrow, once I turn that in I will try to catch the scum. But it does sort of appear that we need to lynch today now. ##unvoteAnd if there is a real vigilante who is not The Shining, they definitely should counterclaim.
not really the shinings fault. I forced him to claim there if he is the real vigi i guess. If it was anyone but him or rso my plan was good i think idk
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Okay time for an explanation. Give me a sec
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On April 16 2015 09:13 Breshke wrote:
Okay im not sure if this is the right move but I am the vigi and I shot stutters last night. It was a very poor decision and i hesitated on it because he softed blue earlier and i was worried he was the vet. Then he started pushing me after i tried to hammer someone who he had been scumreading and it just gave me really bad vibes. The bad thing from this shot, we go into mylo the good is that i am quite confident that rso and shining are mafia
Anyway I WILL BE SHOT TONIGHT and i was hoping someone would fake claim this because the fake claim would most likely have been the vet trying to pull a bullet since if we manage to kill the role blocker today that play would have effectively gained us a miss lynch. WHICH IS WHY WE DONT NO LYNCH.
Let me reiterate. The vet does not claim here noone else claims here because mafia HAS TO shoot me else they risk shooting into the vet and if we kill Rso or maybe shining we have a 1/3 shot of killing the role blocker which effectively means if the vet ever gets shot we gain a misslynch,.
The bolded is a fairly important paragraph. This is exactly what i was trying to do. I am the Veteran.
This is part of the reason why i brought the logic up why there is most likely a verteran because i wanted the possible cop to know not to rely on a medic. Also why i was asking about roleblocks because the person who was roleblocked would have been very suspicious because if there was a vigi there was no reason for scum to not roleblock there kill but if there was a cop that person would have been less suspicious.
Rso actually noticed that that paragraph was me trying to tell the real vigi not to out. This was probably a shit idea because at the time I honestly thought shining and rso were scum. It is probably better that this happend because i could have been persuaded to vote shining today and mafia only needs one town voting wrong so we would have lost.
I didn't interact in the thread last night because i felt it was useless because i knew i could clear myself by claiming vet(which is dumb) but it is also why ive been playing different/more reckless this game
At least the newbies are seeing how not to play lol
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to make it clear the original plan was.
Claim vigi. Get shot during the night and unclaim vigi right before day post.
Shining claimed vigi and i was so sure he was scum claiming to try and win the game. It seems that i am wrong
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On April 16 2015 12:23 Trfel wrote:
Furthermore, if we have a real veteran, they should counterclaim Breshke.
I would say more, but this is a newbie game. Thus it's not appropriate.
However, perhaps next newbie game, we should make sure that everyone gets coaches?
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On April 16 2015 12:25 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2015 12:23 Trfel wrote:
Furthermore, if we have a real veteran, they should counterclaim Breshke.
I would say more, but this is a newbie game. Thus it's not appropriate.
However, perhaps next newbie game, we should make sure that everyone gets coaches? I've played 3-4'games here, I think. This is 4th or 5th. I hold n illusions, I am definitely still a newb.
he probably means me dude dw it fine
I have to claim here or town just keeps going the wrong way.
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On April 16 2015 12:31 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2015 12:26 Breshke wrote:On April 16 2015 12:25 The Shining wrote:On April 16 2015 12:23 Trfel wrote:
Furthermore, if we have a real veteran, they should counterclaim Breshke.
I would say more, but this is a newbie game. Thus it's not appropriate.
However, perhaps next newbie game, we should make sure that everyone gets coaches? I've played 3-4'games here, I think. This is 4th or 5th. I hold n illusions, I am definitely still a newb. he probably means me dude dw it fine I have to claim here or town just keeps going the wrong way. He's right. Let's be honest. If he really is the veteran here, he never gets night killed. And with a vigilante who already fired, scum just roleblocks their target consistently, so the veteran is worthless until the roleblocker is dead. To focus town's discussion in the right way, it's definitely worth it for him to claim when he did. I apologize for my words, they were not called for. What happened happened, time to move on.
This is another reason i tried to make this play because i was never going to get night killed. I thought the gamble of trying to lynch the roleblocker would be worth it. I also figured that if we didnt kill the roleblocker they wouldn't kill me the "vigi" because they would need to try kill the vet while they still could. It was risky and obviously dumb so ill stop trying to justify it.
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Its also why i said i wish shining had shot me because it would have confirmed us to each other and we would still have another misslynch.
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On April 16 2015 12:42 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2015 12:21 Breshke wrote:
to make it clear the original plan was.
Claim vigi. Get shot during the night and unclaim vigi right before day post.
Shining claimed vigi and i was so sure he was scum claiming to try and win the game. It seems that i am wrong So your plan was to make a big play, hope we not only lynch mafia but also 33% chance hit the roleblocker? Not to mention the risk of how much chaos this causes talking about if the CC is real or scum? Your plan is that scum would automatically see your claim and decide to CC or bank on them CCing the real vigi? And then how long did you wait for this play to develop? Now you claim Vet. So, more chaos. You're saying you're playing weird because you are vet. What was your strategy prior to the last night actions?
I claim vigi. Other vigi is like wtf why would he do that. I specifically say why the vet would claim vigi in my claiming vigi post. Real vigi sees this and is like ohhhhh ok.
I banked on noone CC'ing. Even if we lynch scum today if we dont lynch the roleblock i probably dont die because scum needs to try kill the vet before they lose role block. I realize misinformation for town is bad and i shouldn't have done it.
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Final vote count: D2
TheBloodyDwarf (5): Bourneq, The Shining, Tubesock, rsoultin, Trfel
The Shining (1): TheBloodyDwarf
Bourneq (1): prplhz
prplhz (4): Stutters695, jarjarbinks, Half the Sky, Breshke
Just off of D2 votes everyone on prp wagon other than me(pending everyone confirming theya rnt vet) is confirmed town excluding JJB.
I don't think JJb was around near end of lynch but still i think it is unlikely he afk's his vote or leaves his vote on his partner here when he could so easily get lynched. I do not think JJB and prp could be mafia together as this vote would not make sense.
Prp pushing on bourne all game would also have to be a bus if he is mafia which would be weird.
I need a break be back later
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On April 16 2015 12:50 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2015 12:42 Trfel wrote:
Can everyone agree on this?
If Breshke is not actually the veteran, he absolutely gets lynched here. No possibility whatsoever for him to rescind his claim.
If The Shining is not actually the vigilante, he absolutely gets lynched here. No possibility whatsoever for him to rescind his claim.
Therefore, it is imperative that if Breshke is not the real veteran and/or The Shining is not the real vigilante, that the real power role(s) must claim as soon as possible. Just to make it absolutely clear. This is just opening it up for mafia to fakeclaim and then we fight it out on who is scummier Breshke or whoever claims. Is this any better of a position?
Why wouldnt a one in two be good.
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im all for mafia cc'ing me I wont be rolling over after i fuck up bad
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On April 16 2015 12:55 Breshke wrote:
im all for mafia cc'ing me I wont be rolling over after i fuck up bad
do not interpret this to be directed at you shining you probs wouldn't but im just making sure
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On April 16 2015 12:58 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2015 12:55 Breshke wrote:
im all for mafia cc'ing me I wont be rolling over after i fuck up bad If you are mafia you also have every reason to tryhard here too. This is wifom at best. ##Unvote
##No Lynch
Yeah i didn't say that. Im saying that if there is another person who wants to claim vet they should. Which i thought you were disagreeing with.
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Um so I also was one who "knew" stutters was vigi shot and not HTS if you look at my vigi claim i said i shot stutters. It was trefels psot that amde me actually think about it and when you do its obvious. Like anyone who was going to shoot HTS wouldn't have waited this long.
So if your going to start pushing scum on people for saying stutters was vigi shot you should include me.
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On April 16 2015 17:00 Tubesock wrote:
Rsoultin is right, you guys are talking in circles.
I'll say again. Rsoultin, Prplhz, and The Shining are all town.
I'm going to prove this. I'll ask you some questions but these all have a point. Just bear with me.
When mafia decide their nightkills what is the generally accepted strategy? Seems simple right? Keep It Simple Stupid. Seems like the most logical thing to do is shoot the towniest people or the most dangerous. Ones who are on the right track or most townread. Even a mixture of the two and averaged out or something. Or confirmed towns too. We don't have any of those just yet. Sort of now though.
With all our dead towns there is a distinct pattern. It adds up to a story. Yeah, some of the points don't stand alone, but added up it's shows scum motivation.
Voting analysis is useless. HA! It's not a strong a truth as dying, but it tells the story of intention. Which leads to the truth.
I really hate this post. What are you even trying to say.
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On April 16 2015 18:01 Tubesock wrote:I think I know what's going on. While I think I'm right, I will acknowledge I was wrong on TheBloodyDwarf. I don't always get all the scum, but I at least get two. Anyway, what I'm thinking. Soren333 was widely towned. Others too probably but I think he was the most towned. In his filter he scummed TheBloodyDwarf, Onegu, Prplhz, Slotspot, and Bourneq. Holyflare subs in. So, doubly obvious night kill. Half the Sky was also widely towned. Trfel and many others of you already agreed she was the obvious night kill. What were her big things? Big case on Onegu. Who was under suspicion? Breshke. Who was scumread? Bourneq. Plotspot. Show nested quote +On April 12 2015 06:01 LoneMeow wrote:
plotspot the Vanilla Townie is lynched!
Final vote count:
TheBloodyDwarf (1): Soren333, Breshke, Tubesock, The Shining, Tubesock
Breshke (0): Onegu
The Shining (1): plotspot
Bourneq (0): prplhz
plotspot (7): Onegu, Breshke, rsoultin, prplhz, Bourneq, Soren333, Stutters695, jarjarbinks, Half the Sky, Onegu
prplhz (0): TheBloodyDwarf
Stutters695 (4): prplhz, Tubesock, TheBloodyDwarf, Half the Sky
Here's Half the Sky's assessment of Onegu's vote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/480171-newbie-student-mafia-vii?page=61#1220 I also think that Onegu's vote on Breshke was a joke. He didn't say hardly anything about it (typical Onegu behavior though) and then came in calling us idiots for not being on the "scumclaim". I asked him where his vote was and then "oh "forgot" ##Vote:  lotspot. I think he was obviously looking to change his vote, that vote wasn't serious at all. Patterns.... TheBloodyDwarf Show nested quote +On April 15 2015 06:01 LoneMeow wrote:
TheBloodyDwarf the Vanilla Townie is lynched!
Final vote count:
TheBloodyDwarf (5): Bourneq, The Shining, Tubesock, rsoultin, Trfel
Breshke (0): rsoultin
The Shining (1): Breshke , rsoultin, Trfel , TheBloodyDwarf
Bourneq (1): prplhz
Half the Sky (0): prplhz, rsoultin, Tubesock
prplhz (4): Stutters695, jarjarbinks, Half the Sky, Breshke
Stutters695 (0): Breshke
Stutters695 while vigi shot, there is still information. It's not as solid or anything, but things of note. He scummed Breshke. Trfel also said Stuters695 was on his most suspicious list before Stutters died. Breshke last words about Stutters while alive were "I can't vote him now but I hope I don't regret it." then votes The Shining. I'll have individual cases on the three as well tomorrow. We have time to talk about it.
Okay i havnt really read this but explain who the vet is if it isn't me. The only person who hasnt had a chance to claim is bourne and both of us are red in your post so either you accept im the real vet or you think he is going to CC me in which case both of us cant be mafia
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Okay also i dont see ow you can say that I was one of HTS big things? This isn't true at all i was town for her most of the game iirc and then only changed to under review at the end. Which you were in the same category.
You also pull examples like my last words on stutters saying i cant vote him now or whatever and pull no conclusions from it.
I really really don't like this post either.
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I also don't understand why you added the vote counts into your posts they dont seem to ass anything nor do you seem to draw information from them. To me this is scummy because it is just to make your post longer and prettier.
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EPT
