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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 14 2015 21:04 GMT
#1621
On April 15 2015 06:03 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
You guys were so hard on me that idk if you play in new noobie mafia soon

Sorry for bad play tho.


sorry man :/ come back and play later?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 14 2015 21:04 GMT
#1622
GGs Dwarf, hope to see you in a future student game. I realise you're new but it might take a few games to settle in.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 14 2015 21:05 GMT
#1623
On April 15 2015 06:03 rsoultin wrote:
tch -_-

if i had a bullet ><

though lol why does breshke try to hammer scummate prp stutters that i don't follow
Because Breshke is town, and prplhz is town?

I'm fairly confident that The Shining is scum here. I expect that scum defended him pretty hard here. I don't want to go too far down that road though, it's unflipped associations.

It just frustrates me to lynch a complete shot in the dark over someone being inconsistent and unimpressive, when I know that The Shining is capable of quite a lot.
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 14 2015 21:06 GMT
#1624
On April 15 2015 06:01 Stutters695 wrote:
Breshke Prpl scum. Discuss.

Well prplhz has been defending dwarf the entire game, do you think he would do that knowing he would be very likely to be lynched anyway? I give prpl a lot of town points for that.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
April 14 2015 21:07 GMT
#1625
FFS. Welp when you have town like that, you pretty much make life easy for scum. Fuck man.

On April 15 2015 05:58 Half the Sky wrote:
Shining was a bit inactive as town in Newbie LX, and he had excuses for that too. What were his reads like in that game...


was that when you were godfather? I was bassically useless until D3 when I was almost mislynched. I came back and pinged two of the 3 scum but sheeped my townread instead of voting one and we lost in mylo.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 14 2015 21:07 GMT
#1626
I'm going to leave for a while, I'm not very happy right now.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 14 2015 21:08 GMT
#1627
On April 15 2015 06:03 rsoultin wrote:
tch -_-

if i had a bullet ><

though lol why does breshke try to hammer scummate prp stutters that i don't follow


I'd have to agree here, I don't think those two are the same alignment given that.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 14 2015 21:10 GMT
#1628
On April 15 2015 06:07 The Shining wrote:
FFS. Welp when you have town like that, you pretty much make life easy for scum. Fuck man.

Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 05:58 Half the Sky wrote:
Shining was a bit inactive as town in Newbie LX, and he had excuses for that too. What were his reads like in that game...


was that when you were godfather? I was bassically useless until D3 when I was almost mislynched. I came back and pinged two of the 3 scum but sheeped my townread instead of voting one and we lost in mylo.


Yeh I was GF that game.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 14 2015 21:10 GMT
#1629
On April 15 2015 06:06 Bourneq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 06:01 Stutters695 wrote:
Breshke Prpl scum. Discuss.

Well prplhz has been defending dwarf the entire game, do you think he would do that knowing he would be very likely to be lynched anyway? I give prpl a lot of town points for that.


He was defending Dwarf and willing to lynch you though, that was one of the things I had trouble with.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
April 14 2015 21:11 GMT
#1630
On April 15 2015 06:05 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 06:03 rsoultin wrote:
tch -_-

if i had a bullet ><

though lol why does breshke try to hammer scummate prp stutters that i don't follow
Because Breshke is town, and prplhz is town?

I'm fairly confident that The Shining is scum here. I expect that scum defended him pretty hard here. I don't want to go too far down that road though, it's unflipped associations.

It just frustrates me to lynch a complete shot in the dark over someone being inconsistent and unimpressive, when I know that The Shining is capable of quite a lot.


If you know what I'm capable of, you'd know my game picks up as days progress. I don't do well with a large lynchpool, never have, and being shoved into this game 50 pages in became a lot more difficult than I expected.

I still don't like how hard you pushed me as the alternative lynch, along with Breshke. Knowing my alignment, it feels like one or both of you were just doing so to earn town cred, since town flips either way.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 14 2015 21:11 GMT
#1631
i do not agree that shining was any more than a shot in the dark, truffle ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 14 2015 21:16 GMT
#1632
On April 15 2015 06:05 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 06:03 rsoultin wrote:
tch -_-

if i had a bullet ><

though lol why does breshke try to hammer scummate prp stutters that i don't follow
Because Breshke is town, and prplhz is town?

I'm fairly confident that The Shining is scum here. I expect that scum defended him pretty hard here. I don't want to go too far down that road though, it's unflipped associations.

It just frustrates me to lynch a complete shot in the dark over someone being inconsistent and unimpressive, when I know that The Shining is capable of quite a lot.


The problem with lynching Shining is that it's perfectly reasonable that he still wasn't caught up and not ready to put in the work. That newbie game (the one HTS said LX??) he was in that and he didn't turn on until like Day 3 or 4. He didn't replace in either. Here he kinda posted a read or whatever but didn't really go for it.

Scott131337 replaced in as mafia and made this pretty list post with links. In that he said he used a post of mine that was a long essentially town read of 2 wagon'd towns the previous day. I asked him why that was my shining example of towniness and he said "You said you couldn't sleep, so I thought that was towny." I immediately knew he was scum (didn't case him though).

As mafia you absolutely have to show you have read the thread. As town, well what's the hurry? While you will eventually, since people will think you are not solving the game unless you read, but it's not an imperative.

So no. Shining probaly is town. Or at least just as easily as not.

This isn't to say that you are mafia for putting in all that work, it's just that mafia has a far far more motivation to show reading the thread. WIFOM cause some vets know this and will use it as a town tell too.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
April 14 2015 21:17 GMT
#1633
Yeah, they are like 99% not the same alignment. I still think prpl is scum but I don't like that Breshke went from not wanting to lynch me but suspecting me to wanting to lynch me to sheeping my case.

I don't have time for full on analysis, but his d2 seems worse the more I think about it.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 14 2015 21:20 GMT
#1634
The Shining, by when can I expect you to have started playing the game with your full capabilities?

Anyway, I need to step back and take another look at this game. Re-filter everyone, check prplhz's meta, etc. But certainly not right now.

Have fun.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
April 14 2015 21:22 GMT
#1635
On April 15 2015 06:06 Bourneq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 06:01 Stutters695 wrote:
Breshke Prpl scum. Discuss.

Well prplhz has been defending dwarf the entire game, do you think he would do that knowing he would be very likely to be lynched anyway? I give prpl a lot of town points for that.

Yes, it is possible. It's much easier as scum to town read knowing they're town than it is to fabricate a scum case on someone you know is town.

Can't know shit until he comes back though, if he does at all.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 14 2015 21:23 GMT
#1636
On April 15 2015 06:20 Trfel wrote:
Anyway, I need to step back and take another look at this game. Re-filter everyone, check prplhz's meta, etc. But certainly not right now.


When you do, read Roulette (Stutters linked it), Titanic 7, and Down Under 2 at the very least - he was MLed D1 and I realise the last one was a low-postcount game but you can see the difference. The irony is that I think his read formation, etc in this game is actually worse than it was in Titanic 7. Roulette though, read pages 4 and onwards, massive difference in the way he reasons.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 14 2015 21:25 GMT
#1637
meh i'm out >< i'll look at this tomorrow
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
April 14 2015 21:31 GMT
#1638
Since I showed up today, made a case and replied when questioned?

See, I'm used to you tunneling, Trfel. When you think you've got scum, you pursue it passionately. But the last time I saw you tunnel this hard, it was after I offered you an alternate case that could've won us the game. Instead, your tunnel lost it for us.

I'm inclined to think you're just misguided town on me.

As for Breshke, that last minute switch was really odd. If you think both are town, why would you lynch the one that's contributed, as opposed to someone who offered us nothing to this point?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
April 14 2015 21:33 GMT
#1639
Also, scum motivations for Breshke attempting to hammer:

If prpl is town, he gets lynched and everything I've done all game is for naught making me a relatively easy mislynch with how divided we are.

If prpl is scum, he gets lynched and gets massive town cred for hammering him. If this is the case that would mean that the third member thinks prpl is doomed anyway which has it's own implications.

Or they're both town and we're royally fucked, but I doubt any of these are happening.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
April 14 2015 22:01 GMT
#1640
I'll be fielding any questions during the night phase you guys night have for me. Let's get this figured out before it's too late.

Not sure on prpl/think he's town, let's talk it out and reach a consensus.

Have a case I neglected due to tunneling prpl? I'll go over it and give my thoughts.
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