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Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 16 2015 00:22 GMT
#1833
On April 16 2015 09:18 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 09:14 Breshke wrote:
Do you understand now rso why i wasn't psoting in the night. All the conversation would have been about weather ui was scum or not which is useless because i can confirm myself because im a role


lol >< you're a fucking imbecile if you're actually the vig this game, is all i have to say

don't CC if he fake-claimed, vig -_-


Why am i an imbecile?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 16 2015 00:25 GMT
#1835
On April 16 2015 09:24 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 09:22 Breshke wrote:
On April 16 2015 09:18 rsoultin wrote:
On April 16 2015 09:14 Breshke wrote:
Do you understand now rso why i wasn't psoting in the night. All the conversation would have been about weather ui was scum or not which is useless because i can confirm myself because im a role


lol >< you're a fucking imbecile if you're actually the vig this game, is all i have to say

don't CC if he fake-claimed, vig -_-


Why am i an imbecile?


because we should be no-lynching today, if we're going for optimal plays, and you've just defeated one of the main purposes for that ^^ good job


Explain?? If we dont lynch it is impossible for us to kill the roleblocker and if we dont kill the role blocker the vet is useless as fuck. Especially since vigi shot has already gone off
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 16 2015 00:27 GMT
#1838
Okay this is easy now i rescind my vigi claim. Real vigi feel free to CC the shining.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 16 2015 00:29 GMT
#1839
lol im surprised that worked. The shinign why would you shoot stutters? I assume my guess was right and it was stutters you shot else you wouldnt have CC'd. Im soe xcited for the real vigi to come and CC oh man
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 16 2015 00:32 GMT
#1844
On April 16 2015 09:30 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 06:41 rsoultin wrote:
On April 16 2015 06:39 Bourneq wrote:
Explain to me please what we achiev with not lynching? Newbie question im sure but I need to know before I cast a vote.


it's more time to look into everything (which is why i said we need to be active) basically buys 72 hours

it also forces scum to make another nk which gives more information...and then there are two blue roles who can claim day 4 to narrow the pool down further, assuming scum doesn't hit one of them night 3. strategically it's just better?


whenever you decide to actually start reading this game, please let me know -_-

you're either scum, in which case this doesn't matter at all so disregard

or you're town, and we have exactly one mislynch left. which means oh brilliant one that unless you're 100% sure i'm scum and you're not throwing right now based on shit reasons, it's objectively better to have a smaller lynch pool with two blues who can claim day 4 than to out yourself (assuming you're even the vigi) right now

effectively, if you are the vig, you're an idiot ^^ i don't think you're an idiot but lol >< i can see this play from town, too, strangely enough which is why the real vig absolutely SHOULD NOT CC if breshke fake-claimed


No this is completely wrong. Mafia just kills someone like trefel who is basically universally town read. then we get no more info.

I am so sure shining is scum and there will be another vigi CC. If he actually is the real vigi im going to cry and probably not play for a long time
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 16 2015 00:33 GMT
#1846
Shining this is so bullshit if you were vigi WHY DIDNT YOU SHOOT ME. Why did you shoot stutters explain it.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 16 2015 00:36 GMT
#1848
Why would i recind so a scum buddy can cc? Why wouldn't i jsut go head to ehad with you. Why would i claim vigi to begin with as scum. Prp votes rso thats fucking great to me if im mafia and he is town because it means my team could jsut kill rso with prps help so youd have to think me and prp are scum together.

Trefel thinks im town im fairly sure jjb or tube thought iw as town prp thinks im town. I still don't think i was getting lynched today I had no reason to claim.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 16 2015 00:37 GMT
#1849
Rso can you show me the posts that made you think theshining was blue?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 16 2015 00:39 GMT
#1851
On April 16 2015 09:26 The Shining wrote:
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On April 16 2015 07:04 prplhz wrote:
i can't. rsoso is scum because she's really good at mafia but she only done mafia things and she's notting putting in that effort she does as town. especially letting two townies getting lynched while acting like she hadn't a clue what a tone read is. anyway i suggest we don't no lynch today, me or rso go go go. i'll tell you the other two scum before i die but i'm a little less sure of them.

shoutout to onegu for getting this right on d1.



I'm just about done so here goes nothing. I essentially took myself out of this game, morale wise.

No lynching is stupid. [B]##Unvote[b]

It was said already but all we gain by a no lynch is one less strong town read and a leader. We're better off putting our all into finding scum and trying to salvage this game.


I didn't realize how hard it would be to replace, I know now for the future. I also know not to follow my gut instincts because I'm wrong a decent amount of time. I'm the vig. I'm really sorry, town, I might have thrown this. We either have a vet or a medic. If medic, protect me tonight.

If vet, don't claim. If we lynch scum today, I die tonight but they will still risk shooting you following night phase and buying town one more day phase.

I think prpl could possibly be scum. The push on RSo looks bad to me. From what I've read of prpl's meta, I find it interesting he'd scum RSo for essentially the same things he's done. They have similar filter lengths but he's claiming she's doing nothing and let two townies die. But he was voting Stutters D1(confirmed town) & Bourneq before AFKing EoD. So he "let" townies die, too. And he hasn't done anything of note that screams town. If anything, his moodiness fits his scum meta. And the case he put on RSo could be applied to him, as well.

Breshke is still my strongest scumread. And his weird switch at eod still makes no sense to me, however I spin it. It really isn't far fetched to think they're scumming together(Purp Bresh). Feels like he's trying to end the game here by sheeping Prpl onto RSo.

And I just checked the thread and this guy claimed Vig. Yep total scum.

##Vote: Breshke


Look ive been your strongest scumread. If you were the vig you would have known shooting put us into mylo. So you would obviously shoot your TOP scumread not stutters or even maybe HTS no way.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 16 2015 00:40 GMT
#1853
On April 16 2015 09:39 The Shining wrote:
Because I wanted to shoot him N1. I didn't get into the game in time to feel right about it. I had a gut feeling about him all game and D2 didn't feel that much better. I also noticed what Breshke did about him bread crumbing blue but his exact statement was that we'd see why he was town D2. So I shot him.

I left you because I felt I could get support for your lynch, especially after D2/N2. I honestly thought I was nailing two scum here.

Again I've never played vig before and replacing has been an experience for me.


No i don't believe it. You scumread me for pressuring him about his breadcrumb post and now you come out and say it is a reason for why you shot him. That is bullshit i don't believe it.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 16 2015 00:41 GMT
#1854
On April 16 2015 09:40 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 04:26 The Shining wrote:
On April 15 2015 04:19 rsoultin wrote:
meh i don't really know what prp is doing this day phase :/ i don't mind his EoD behavior except AFKing the lynch. like basically all of day 1 still looks good to me with that exception?

but then there's just the blah where he doesn't seem to have much of an opinion about today's lynch at all. like it almost seems like he's got the lynch down to between bourneq and tbd and is using townreading tbd as an excuse to lynch bourne, when there's tons more players in this game and 3 scum besides -_-

i dunnae. i'd lynch him before players like jjb, hts and truffle at this point (and prob bresh though he's on my list to look at too right now lol ><) but his day 1 makes me hesitant

i don't see this "overwhelmed" townie argument stutters >< he's had over 72 hours to get caught up, and his own excuse was just basically he didn't want to play lol >< at least as i understood it

and that's okay?


Meh I don't like hiding behind excuses. But to be more accurate, I didn't have time to play because fun things kept coming up during my days off that I couldn't say no to. I'm here right now and I'm at work on my phone posting.

And this is my first time replacing. I am slightly overwhelmed. But I am trying here. And I'm telling you, boldly, that lynching me is a huge mistake for town.


Thankyou i could logically understand this
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 16 2015 00:42 GMT
#1857
IM SO HYPED RIGHT NOW i was so worried the real vigi would cc me first.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 16 2015 00:43 GMT
#1858
Rso do you buy shinings reasons for shooting stutters?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 16 2015 00:47 GMT
#1862
On April 16 2015 09:44 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 09:41 Breshke wrote:
On April 16 2015 09:40 rsoultin wrote:
On April 15 2015 04:26 The Shining wrote:
On April 15 2015 04:19 rsoultin wrote:
meh i don't really know what prp is doing this day phase :/ i don't mind his EoD behavior except AFKing the lynch. like basically all of day 1 still looks good to me with that exception?

but then there's just the blah where he doesn't seem to have much of an opinion about today's lynch at all. like it almost seems like he's got the lynch down to between bourneq and tbd and is using townreading tbd as an excuse to lynch bourne, when there's tons more players in this game and 3 scum besides -_-

i dunnae. i'd lynch him before players like jjb, hts and truffle at this point (and prob bresh though he's on my list to look at too right now lol ><) but his day 1 makes me hesitant

i don't see this "overwhelmed" townie argument stutters >< he's had over 72 hours to get caught up, and his own excuse was just basically he didn't want to play lol >< at least as i understood it

and that's okay?


Meh I don't like hiding behind excuses. But to be more accurate, I didn't have time to play because fun things kept coming up during my days off that I couldn't say no to. I'm here right now and I'm at work on my phone posting.

And this is my first time replacing. I am slightly overwhelmed. But I am trying here. And I'm telling you, boldly, that lynching me is a huge mistake for town.


Thankyou i could logically understand this


I was also set to be lynched at one point and said town would feel stupid as fuck when I flipped. I was leading votes at the time. I mean, you don't have to believe me.

I claimed because I am the vigi and I threw this game. Town is probably mad as hell at me and I understand why. At least this way I don't drag it out and Fuck us any harder than I already have.


No you don't egt to give up if you are actually the town vigi which i still highly doubt. Why did you shoot stutters for "breadcrumbing blue" when you scumread me for pressuring him about that post. Also why would you shoot him for that reason when he could have been the vet or medic (its deffs vet there no way its medic)
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 16 2015 00:50 GMT
#1863
On April 16 2015 09:45 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 16:29 The Shining wrote:
On April 11 2015 10:48 Stutters695 wrote:
On April 11 2015 08:39 jarjarbinks wrote:
Hmm The flip flop begins lol

So I previously wasn't a huge fan of Stutters so far. I'm changing my mind.

Sure, Onegu voted Breshke before. There wasn't too much traction on him before that IMO. He made a case and it looked like he thought it was pretty good. It seems like he has been scumhunting around since then.

I expect him to show his "top four" and his reads besides Breshke. But he did just get in the game. I don't see him as lynchable right now at all.


Was wondering how long it would take someone to notice that. Was really hoping it'd be a newbie to see their reaction, but can't win them all.

Ace: obv policy lynch, nothing more. I'm less confident in seeing an increase in posting from him if we give him time, do he's my fall back if I can't get my main lynch going.

Currently I still want Breshke's head. I'm not sure how to vocalize it exactly, but he just feels off.

I still see plenty of scum mindset behind his actions and skimming his past 4 (2 scum, 2 town) games day 1 hasn't put me at ease. His play so far doesn't match either meta really. As town he has much more focus in his posts. He might change his mind, but if he saw something he didn't like (my post for example) he would challenge it until he's satisfied, not brush it off. There is also a distinct lack of interaction with the people he suspects.

His scum meta does seem to withhold reads until later, but after dying n1 and n2, I can see why he would attempt to change that. He's currently who I want to lynch.

The other two I'm really interested in are prpl and plot, but I haven't had the time to really get into them yet.

Can you rephrase that question about interactions with Onegu? If you mean us playing together, we have, but nothing notable from memory.


This post stands out to me regarding Stutters. From what I've read so far and the filters I've dove, I've got a few preliminary reads that I'd be more than willing to explain after this.

The way he mentions Ace as a "fallback" lynch just doesn't feel right. It's more of a tone read and I'm aware Ace hadn't done much before being replaced but writing off a newbie because you don't feel he'll increase in posting on D1 doesn't feel right. And I have Breshke as a town lean so naturally, it raises questions that he'd want to lynch him.

He also mentions being suspicious of plot(flipped VT) and prpl. So that's 2 town and a town lean he'd be willing to lynch, before ultimately(and effortlessly) sheeping onto plot over his poor EoD antics.

I've yet to read prpl and there's a lot more than that for me to read as well, but I'll continue trying to catch up and answer as best I can.


he clearly was scumreading him at one point...in fact he was shining's first scumread. it jives :/


So the bolded obviously wouldnt have been applicable anymore. And a large part of that scumread is seemingly because he has been wrong which you yourself said isnt alignment indicative.

I know you didnt quote this saying you agree with it but im saying this read is so old and outdated that there is no way he shoots stutters over me.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 16 2015 00:59 GMT
#1866
On April 16 2015 09:52 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 09:50 Breshke wrote:
On April 16 2015 09:45 rsoultin wrote:
On April 12 2015 16:29 The Shining wrote:
On April 11 2015 10:48 Stutters695 wrote:
On April 11 2015 08:39 jarjarbinks wrote:
Hmm The flip flop begins lol

So I previously wasn't a huge fan of Stutters so far. I'm changing my mind.

Sure, Onegu voted Breshke before. There wasn't too much traction on him before that IMO. He made a case and it looked like he thought it was pretty good. It seems like he has been scumhunting around since then.

I expect him to show his "top four" and his reads besides Breshke. But he did just get in the game. I don't see him as lynchable right now at all.


Was wondering how long it would take someone to notice that. Was really hoping it'd be a newbie to see their reaction, but can't win them all.

Ace: obv policy lynch, nothing more. I'm less confident in seeing an increase in posting from him if we give him time, do he's my fall back if I can't get my main lynch going.

Currently I still want Breshke's head. I'm not sure how to vocalize it exactly, but he just feels off.

I still see plenty of scum mindset behind his actions and skimming his past 4 (2 scum, 2 town) games day 1 hasn't put me at ease. His play so far doesn't match either meta really. As town he has much more focus in his posts. He might change his mind, but if he saw something he didn't like (my post for example) he would challenge it until he's satisfied, not brush it off. There is also a distinct lack of interaction with the people he suspects.

His scum meta does seem to withhold reads until later, but after dying n1 and n2, I can see why he would attempt to change that. He's currently who I want to lynch.

The other two I'm really interested in are prpl and plot, but I haven't had the time to really get into them yet.

Can you rephrase that question about interactions with Onegu? If you mean us playing together, we have, but nothing notable from memory.


This post stands out to me regarding Stutters. From what I've read so far and the filters I've dove, I've got a few preliminary reads that I'd be more than willing to explain after this.

The way he mentions Ace as a "fallback" lynch just doesn't feel right. It's more of a tone read and I'm aware Ace hadn't done much before being replaced but writing off a newbie because you don't feel he'll increase in posting on D1 doesn't feel right. And I have Breshke as a town lean so naturally, it raises questions that he'd want to lynch him.

He also mentions being suspicious of plot(flipped VT) and prpl. So that's 2 town and a town lean he'd be willing to lynch, before ultimately(and effortlessly) sheeping onto plot over his poor EoD antics.

I've yet to read prpl and there's a lot more than that for me to read as well, but I'll continue trying to catch up and answer as best I can.


he clearly was scumreading him at one point...in fact he was shining's first scumread. it jives :/


So the bolded obviously wouldnt have been applicable anymore. And a large part of that scumread is seemingly because he has been wrong which you yourself said isnt alignment indicative.

I know you didnt quote this saying you agree with it but im saying this read is so old and outdated that there is no way he shoots stutters over me.


lol >< the only thing that isn't valid anymore is the townlean on you


Ehh basically the only things in this read are the fallback lynch and that she sheeped his vote onto plot. The other stuff has nothing to do with alignment.

On April 16 2015 09:39 The Shining wrote:
Because I wanted to shoot him N1. I didn't get into the game in time to feel right about it. I had a gut feeling about him all game and D2 didn't feel that much better. I also noticed what Breshke did about him bread crumbing blue but his exact statement was that we'd see why he was town D2. So I shot him.

I left you because I felt I could get support for your lynch, especially after D2/N2. I honestly thought I was nailing two scum here.

Again I've never played vig before and replacing has been an experience for me.


Also another thing with this reasoning. If shining is the cop or vigi i dont really see the logic behind giving stutters a day pass for saying this. Him saying this to me ment he was vigi or cop because those roles could claim the next day confirming themselves. So why doesn't shining think stutters could be the medic or vet and didnt egt a save and didnt get shot.

So basically he is saying he shot shining because he had an early scum read on him and because he bread crumbed a role (which i have shown to be bullshit)

Also saying he didnt shoot me because he thought he could get people to lynch me today seems so absurd if you couple it with his lack of confidence saying he is a newbie and replaced in.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 16 2015 01:02 GMT
#1868
On April 16 2015 09:56 rsoultin wrote:
i have never, in any game, had to implore you to read this much, breshke ><

the main thrust was not the wanting to vote for townreads/townleans, it was how shit the reasoning behind those votes was, and that opinion is just as true today as it was the day those were posted

where did your objectivity go? the only way i can call this town behavior is if you've got an extreme case of confirmation bias, which is not a flaw i normally associate with you ><


No because im so sure that he would shoot me in that situation. If your town i apologize i can see how id be annoying as fuck right now but I just took a risky as fuck play and i feel like it payed off and im excited.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 16 2015 01:03 GMT
#1869
##Unvote
##Vote Theshining
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 16 2015 01:07 GMT
#1872
On April 16 2015 10:04 Tubesock wrote:
##Vote: Breshke

I think I have this game solved. I need time to double check.

Prp, Rso, Shining all town. I absolutely believe Shining.

Who thinks Rsoultin was a NK risk? I didn't and I have a huge mafia skill crush on her. I didn't think HTS would be either I thought Stutters, Trfel, or Breshke. I didn't do a legacy either as I'd think scum would be dumb to shoot me over those three. HTS died cause she was on to something or the biggest risk.


I dont do wills either. Im not saying its scummy to do wills. I was saying its scummy for rso not to do wills.

Why are you so believing of shining? Have you seen his reason for shooting stutters. Tell me how it makes sense?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 16 2015 01:12 GMT
#1875
On April 16 2015 10:10 rsoultin wrote:
^^

back to the brilliant breshke metaread lol >< when i've demonstrably done a will this game the first night and not done them in some nights in my recent towngames

-golf claps-

i am getting so sick and tired of people thinking they can metaread me >< and of metareads that has to be one of the shittiest. at least try something i can't defend against lol "she's too passive, therefore, scum!" - marv, XXX "she didn't post within the first two minutes!" - LS, aperture

blah -_-


No im not pushing that read im explaining to tube the read because he seemed to think i meant no will = mafia.

The fact that your diving the shining and finding his reads on stutters makes me actually weaver on you a shit ton.
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