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On April 14 2015 09:59 Half the Sky wrote:
Stutters, you still in thread? I wanted to ask you two key questions regarding your actions D1.
D1, you expressed that Breshke was mafia. You considered prplhz and plotspot for lynch. You pushed Breshke in two posts, and I know you were AFK a bit from the thread D1, but ultimately voted plotspot after a load of people had done so.
I have two questions for you.
1 As a veteran, why were you so sure that plotspot was scumclaiming and not martyring? I understand some vets are familiar with martyring happening and prp has brought it up himself.
2 I know someone else queried you on it but I'm not seeing the response in your filter - had your thoughts on Breshke changed since D1? And if you were sure of Breshke, why didn't you push him further D1?
1. I wasn't. D1 is a bitch and I hate it. Once it was obvious Bresh/Prpl weren't options, I wanted to see one of the newbies hang because if one of them didn't, we'd be in the same predicament d2 and had basically wasted d1. I've played enough games where people martyr/give up as scum once caught early that I really don't know what to think anymore.
2. I've learned pushing lynches that won't happen just distracts town. Especially on d1 when we can afford a mislynch. I'd rather have a mislynch on someone I can't read, but I think is scum than someone I don't think is scum because I split a wagon, when d1 is a crapshoot anyway.
They have changed due to his n1 posts, but I still want to see more out of him to decide.
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saying that my third post didn't succeed in getting discussion going is silly as it's been discussed a lot this game
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On April 14 2015 10:26 prplhz wrote:
saying that my third post didn't succeed in getting discussion going is silly as it's been discussed a lot this game This, it definitely helped start the discussion of the game. You really can't argue the opposite.
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Stutters have you seen the reason why I am voting you?
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On April 14 2015 10:31 Breshke wrote:
Stutters have you seen the reason why I am voting you?
Sure have. WIFOM son. Am I blue, am I VT? Who knows, but my posting should make it pretty obvious I'm town.
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On April 14 2015 10:26 prplhz wrote:
saying that my third post didn't succeed in getting discussion going is silly as it's been discussed a lot this game
i fail to see how this post is relevant xP
the question was intention, not end result -flicks-
trfel made a post as scum that "got discussion going" but that didn't make him town lol ><
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On April 14 2015 10:33 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2015 10:26 prplhz wrote:
saying that my third post didn't succeed in getting discussion going is silly as it's been discussed a lot this game i fail to see how this post is relevant xP the question was intention, not end result -flicks- trfel made a post as scum that "got discussion going" but that didn't make him town lol ><
I think Soren made a similar argument earlier about useful and useless discussion actually and saying that driving the latter was scumlike behaviour.
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On April 14 2015 10:33 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2015 10:26 prplhz wrote:
saying that my third post didn't succeed in getting discussion going is silly as it's been discussed a lot this game i fail to see how this post is relevant xP the question was intention, not end result -flicks- trfel made a post as scum that "got discussion going" but that didn't make him town lol >< Still wrong. The intention is to get discussion going. What is really important is the motivation.
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we are just entirely off-topic now >< the point was those were the posts that made me lean town on bourne
unless y'all think they make him scum, i'm not sure why we're even discussing this?
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On April 14 2015 10:36 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2015 10:33 rsoultin wrote:On April 14 2015 10:26 prplhz wrote:
saying that my third post didn't succeed in getting discussion going is silly as it's been discussed a lot this game i fail to see how this post is relevant xP the question was intention, not end result -flicks- trfel made a post as scum that "got discussion going" but that didn't make him town lol >< I think Soren made a similar argument earlier about useful and useless discussion actually and saying that driving the latter was scumlike behaviour. Promoting useless discussion is indeed scum favored. However, at the very start of the game, what do you expect? No offense, Half the Sky, but the discussion that resulted from prplhz's opening was more useful to solving the game than what you were doing at the same time.
I also find it ironic, since Soren333 himself was one of the main people to respond to prplhz's opening, and he apparently called it useless discussion?
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truffle i am going to skin you for making semantics arguments that serve no purpose ^^ don't you have a thread to be reading?
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On April 14 2015 10:38 rsoultin wrote:
truffle i am going to skin you for making semantics arguments that serve no purpose ^^ don't you have a thread to be reading? Sorry, I haven't actively played mafia in a while (for me, at least). I like talking, and this game has fun people in it. But please, don't skin me, that sounds rather painful. Just slit my throat or something.
I'll try to go hide and read the thread, haha.
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Rasputin, I can see the second part of your counterargument from town or mafia perspective. Soren actually pinged him out on the second quote.
However, and this is a big however, the third quote you cite, if anything makes him town, that would have to be it. It's original thought and content from him.
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Breshke, what are your thoughts on Stutters's latest comments? I honestly was going to case him based on his voting plotspot, and then realising he was in the thread, decided it'd be more efficient directly asking him xD
On April 14 2015 10:26 Stutters695 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2015 09:59 Half the Sky wrote:
Stutters, you still in thread? I wanted to ask you two key questions regarding your actions D1.
D1, you expressed that Breshke was mafia. You considered prplhz and plotspot for lynch. You pushed Breshke in two posts, and I know you were AFK a bit from the thread D1, but ultimately voted plotspot after a load of people had done so.
I have two questions for you.
1 As a veteran, why were you so sure that plotspot was scumclaiming and not martyring? I understand some vets are familiar with martyring happening and prp has brought it up himself.
2 I know someone else queried you on it but I'm not seeing the response in your filter - had your thoughts on Breshke changed since D1? And if you were sure of Breshke, why didn't you push him further D1? 1. I wasn't. D1 is a bitch and I hate it. Once it was obvious Bresh/Prpl weren't options, I wanted to see one of the newbies hang because if one of them didn't, we'd be in the same predicament d2 and had basically wasted d1. I've played enough games where people martyr/give up as scum once caught early that I really don't know what to think anymore. 2. I've learned pushing lynches that won't happen just distracts town. Especially on d1 when we can afford a mislynch. I'd rather have a mislynch on someone I can't read, but I think is scum than someone I don't think is scum because I split a wagon, when d1 is a crapshoot anyway. They have changed due to his n1 posts, but I still want to see more out of him to decide.
Considering you are the lead proponent of his lynch and (I could be wrong here?) you have yet to play with him, so...
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Damn, it is 3am here. I'll carry on as I can later today. Good night.
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On April 14 2015 10:53 Half the Sky wrote:
Damn, it is 3am here. I'll carry on as I can later today. Good night. Good night.
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On April 14 2015 10:51 Half the Sky wrote:Breshke, what are your thoughts on Stutters's latest comments? I honestly was going to case him based on his voting plotspot, and then realising he was in the thread, decided it'd be more efficient directly asking him xD Show nested quote +On April 14 2015 10:26 Stutters695 wrote:On April 14 2015 09:59 Half the Sky wrote:
Stutters, you still in thread? I wanted to ask you two key questions regarding your actions D1.
D1, you expressed that Breshke was mafia. You considered prplhz and plotspot for lynch. You pushed Breshke in two posts, and I know you were AFK a bit from the thread D1, but ultimately voted plotspot after a load of people had done so.
I have two questions for you.
1 As a veteran, why were you so sure that plotspot was scumclaiming and not martyring? I understand some vets are familiar with martyring happening and prp has brought it up himself.
2 I know someone else queried you on it but I'm not seeing the response in your filter - had your thoughts on Breshke changed since D1? And if you were sure of Breshke, why didn't you push him further D1? 1. I wasn't. D1 is a bitch and I hate it. Once it was obvious Bresh/Prpl weren't options, I wanted to see one of the newbies hang because if one of them didn't, we'd be in the same predicament d2 and had basically wasted d1. I've played enough games where people martyr/give up as scum once caught early that I really don't know what to think anymore. 2. I've learned pushing lynches that won't happen just distracts town. Especially on d1 when we can afford a mislynch. I'd rather have a mislynch on someone I can't read, but I think is scum than someone I don't think is scum because I split a wagon, when d1 is a crapshoot anyway. They have changed due to his n1 posts, but I still want to see more out of him to decide. Considering you are the lead proponent of his lynch and (I could be wrong here?) you have yet to play with him, so...
I was voting him because of some comment he made in which he basically softed power role. He seemed to ignore the question when he first came back yesterday so that made me even more intrigued but i like his recent answer and am willing to let it slide until next day phase.
##Unvote
I currently want to lynch bourne but i need to read what rso wrote about him again and also read your case on him.
Also i think it is safe to infer we have a etup with a veteran and not a medic as noone has claimed roleblocked meaning scum most likely roleblocked HF which they would only do if they feared he was a vet. Or maybe a vigi but i find that less likely.
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On April 12 2015 03:05 Half the Sky wrote:
Still icing myself (ran a half marathon this morning \o/), but I'm back home. Another 30-45 and I'll be catching up. Half marathon!??!?! Wow. Now I feel great about my physical health.
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On April 14 2015 11:03 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2015 10:51 Half the Sky wrote:Breshke, what are your thoughts on Stutters's latest comments? I honestly was going to case him based on his voting plotspot, and then realising he was in the thread, decided it'd be more efficient directly asking him xD On April 14 2015 10:26 Stutters695 wrote:On April 14 2015 09:59 Half the Sky wrote:
Stutters, you still in thread? I wanted to ask you two key questions regarding your actions D1.
D1, you expressed that Breshke was mafia. You considered prplhz and plotspot for lynch. You pushed Breshke in two posts, and I know you were AFK a bit from the thread D1, but ultimately voted plotspot after a load of people had done so.
I have two questions for you.
1 As a veteran, why were you so sure that plotspot was scumclaiming and not martyring? I understand some vets are familiar with martyring happening and prp has brought it up himself.
2 I know someone else queried you on it but I'm not seeing the response in your filter - had your thoughts on Breshke changed since D1? And if you were sure of Breshke, why didn't you push him further D1? 1. I wasn't. D1 is a bitch and I hate it. Once it was obvious Bresh/Prpl weren't options, I wanted to see one of the newbies hang because if one of them didn't, we'd be in the same predicament d2 and had basically wasted d1. I've played enough games where people martyr/give up as scum once caught early that I really don't know what to think anymore. 2. I've learned pushing lynches that won't happen just distracts town. Especially on d1 when we can afford a mislynch. I'd rather have a mislynch on someone I can't read, but I think is scum than someone I don't think is scum because I split a wagon, when d1 is a crapshoot anyway. They have changed due to his n1 posts, but I still want to see more out of him to decide. Considering you are the lead proponent of his lynch and (I could be wrong here?) you have yet to play with him, so... I was voting him because of some comment he made in which he basically softed power role. He seemed to ignore the question when he first came back yesterday so that made me even more intrigued but i like his recent answer and am willing to let it slide until next day phase. ##UnvoteI currently want to lynch bourne but i need to read what rso wrote about him again and also read your case on him. Also i think it is safe to infer we have a etup with a veteran and not a medic as noone has claimed roleblocked meaning scum most likely roleblocked HF which they would only do if they feared he was a vet. Or maybe a vigi but i find that less likely.
Why? Who is going to prot the new guy?
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