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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 13 2015 14:48 GMT
#1181
Welcome Trfel. Town are on track for an ML D2.

I'm taking the approach of evaluating each of the main wagons D1 with the working theory there are 2 scum on the plot wagon and one on the Stutters counter wagon.

I evaluated the Stutters counterwagon last night with Tube and possibly Dwarf being suspect.

I have Rasputin/others wanting to lynch me for faulty logic (namely my changing votes on Stutters 2m before EoD) without considering the possibly that 1) I can't consider all possibility simultaneously and 2) it being completely unreasonable to expect a detailed case with the scant amount of time left. I've explained it enough, so I'm filter diving the people on the plot wagon atm.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 13 2015 14:54 GMT
#1182
On April 13 2015 23:47 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2015 23:29 Trfel wrote:
Hello.

I haven't read any of the game yet, just enough to know that there was a mislynch on Day 1 and then Holyflare was night killed.

Do I need to start doing things immediately, or can I take the time to read the thread (or at least part of it)?


lol o.0 what a strange question truffle

how do you expect to do things if you don't read the thread? -shoos- come back when you have something case-builder xP
Well, I've missed playing mafia, so I'm going to do things anyway, because it's fun.

Given the pregame (as of page 2), I would be less inclined to lynch plotspot. Though it's a bit late for that.
On April 13 2015 23:48 Half the Sky wrote:
Welcome Trfel. Town are on track for an ML D2.

I'm taking the approach of evaluating each of the main wagons D1 with the working theory there are 2 scum on the plot wagon and one on the Stutters counter wagon.

I evaluated the Stutters counterwagon last night with Tube and possibly Dwarf being suspect.

I have Rasputin/others wanting to lynch me for faulty logic (namely my changing votes on Stutters 2m before EoD) without considering the possibly that 1) I can't consider all possibility simultaneously and 2) it being completely unreasonable to expect a detailed case with the scant amount of time left. I've explained it enough, so I'm filter diving the people on the plot wagon atm.
I don't agree with this method of scum catching by saying how many scum are on each wagon, however I'm not at the level where I can definitively say that it is wrong. And I don't think that it is alignment indicative.

A few questions about the game:

What is the posting style of the game? Is it more conversational (aka "spammy", though I feel the two are significantly different), or is it a more slow, content-dense game?
Is there enough information to work with, or does town need more posting?
Any claims yet?
Does town have capable and currently active leadership?

Thanks!
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 13 2015 14:56 GMT
#1183
bresh...maybe you're right but this is giving me a terrible case of deja vu, this refusal to even consider someone is scum xP perhaps you can show me what has you so certain hts is town

tube, dude, i agree with bresh actually, lol, don't really see why she can't think that people are generally bussing more often but still come to the conclusion that in this case stutters is not? like if she's scum obviously the idea is contrived and gives her a reason to jump off plot's wagon, but it doesn't make her scum on it's own
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 13 2015 15:00 GMT
#1184
On April 13 2015 23:48 Half the Sky wrote:
Welcome Trfel. Town are on track for an ML D2.

I'm taking the approach of evaluating each of the main wagons D1 with the working theory there are 2 scum on the plot wagon and one on the Stutters counter wagon.

I evaluated the Stutters counterwagon last night with Tube and possibly Dwarf being suspect.

I have Rasputin/others wanting to lynch me for faulty logic (namely my changing votes on Stutters 2m before EoD) without considering the possibly that 1) I can't consider all possibility simultaneously and 2) it being completely unreasonable to expect a detailed case with the scant amount of time left. I've explained it enough, so I'm filter diving the people on the plot wagon atm.


lol hts ><

just read my case; it's quite clear what i'm saying there

i never said i needed a detailed case from you. i said you apparently came to the revelation that stutters was scum and plot was town, and you believed it enough to switch your vote, but not enough to try to get anyone to switch with you

these are the simple facts. you did not push it even with a simple, vote stutters guys i'm pretty sure plot is town! post. in fact it's pretty unclear what your conclusion on plot's alignment even was in your vote post and has to be inferred? of course i didn't expect a case in the last two minutes that's ludicrous lol ><

the pages in question truffle start around 44 and lead through EoD
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 13 2015 15:03 GMT
#1185
Second issue Trfel is that town are also dealing with a few scummy lurkers namely Stutters, dwarf and Bourneq.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 13 2015 15:07 GMT
#1186
On April 14 2015 00:03 Half the Sky wrote:
Second issue Trfel is that town are also dealing with a few scummy lurkers namely Stutters, dwarf and Bourneq.


this is true

hts, i already said i'm not stuck on you, but i do need you to convince me someone is more scummy than you, yeah? stutters said he'd be playing today so he has no excuse not to, but dwarf and bourne seem to have dropped off the face of the earth lol ><

i'm not going to ignore you, hts. i've grown past the blindly tunnel phase as a player (i'd like to think, anyway xP)
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 13 2015 15:11 GMT
#1187
Ras to be honest I have a much bigger problem with the way Tube is pushing me than I have with you.

Trfel, vote count analysis is pretty common in these games. You should recall Damdred doing this in Guardians.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 13 2015 15:12 GMT
#1188
The game seems to have a fair amount of discussion. I suppose that leaves no other way to get these players to post than to try and lynch them. But I hate lynching for activity.

Oh well, I guess there is no shortcut to reading the game.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 13 2015 15:17 GMT
#1189
On April 14 2015 00:11 Half the Sky wrote:
Ras to be honest I have a much bigger problem with the way Tube is pushing me than I have with you.

Trfel, vote count analysis is pretty common in these games. You should recall Damdred doing this in Guardians.


you're right, hts, but usually people do it combined with reads? it isn't pure oh vote looks scummy therefore scum

like i caught -celestial- because he was vocal that he didn't like the main wagon but still wasted his vote instead of trying to save him (lol sound a little familiar here? ) and i cleared breshke in a later game cause even though his vote looked scummy, the lead-up to it looked genuine

if you're town i get what you're trying to do, but it doesn't really work the way you're doing it, ya know?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 13 2015 15:23 GMT
#1190
Oh, voting is in this thread? That's really nice. LoneMeow quickly rising on my list of favorite hosts. Thanks!

Anyway, I finally made it to the start of Day 1, so I can (hopefully) provide actual reads soon.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 13 2015 15:29 GMT
#1191
On April 14 2015 00:07 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 00:03 Half the Sky wrote:
Second issue Trfel is that town are also dealing with a few scummy lurkers namely Stutters, dwarf and Bourneq.


this is true

hts, i already said i'm not stuck on you, but i do need you to convince me someone is more scummy than you, yeah? stutters said he'd be playing today so he has no excuse not to, but dwarf and bourne seem to have dropped off the face of the earth lol ><

i'm not going to ignore you, hts. i've grown past the blindly tunnel phase as a player (i'd like to think, anyway xP)


Fair enough. I'm stuck in meetings, will do once I'm out....
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 13 2015 15:29 GMT
#1192
Hm, I might have a cool way to read Half the Sky. But if she really is scum here, maybe I should just not reveal it until next game

I'd better check my meta first, though.

On an unrelated note:
On April 10 2015 06:12 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Hey, im not at least the last one
I'm sad now
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
April 13 2015 15:36 GMT
#1193
On April 14 2015 00:29 Trfel wrote:
Hm, I might have a cool way to read Half the Sky. But if she really is scum here, maybe I should just not reveal it until next game

I'd better check my meta first, though.

On an unrelated note:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 06:12 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Hey, im not at least the last one
I'm sad now

Why you are sad
Im happy
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 13 2015 15:38 GMT
#1194
On April 14 2015 00:36 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 00:29 Trfel wrote:
Hm, I might have a cool way to read Half the Sky. But if she really is scum here, maybe I should just not reveal it until next game

I'd better check my meta first, though.

On an unrelated note:
On April 10 2015 06:12 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Hey, im not at least the last one
I'm sad now

Why you are sad
Im happy
Well, because I'm the last one in the game.

But I'm getting happier because this metaread on Half the Sky seems to be reliable so far.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 13 2015 15:44 GMT
#1195
On April 14 2015 00:38 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 00:36 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On April 14 2015 00:29 Trfel wrote:
Hm, I might have a cool way to read Half the Sky. But if she really is scum here, maybe I should just not reveal it until next game

I'd better check my meta first, though.

On an unrelated note:
On April 10 2015 06:12 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Hey, im not at least the last one
I'm sad now

Why you are sad
Im happy
Well, because I'm the last one in the game.

But I'm getting happier because this metaread on Half the Sky seems to be reliable so far.
Eh, never mind, it's not a very good read. Oh well, it was worth a try.

Back to reading the game.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 13 2015 15:45 GMT
#1196
On April 14 2015 00:36 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 00:29 Trfel wrote:
Hm, I might have a cool way to read Half the Sky. But if she really is scum here, maybe I should just not reveal it until next game

I'd better check my meta first, though.

On an unrelated note:
On April 10 2015 06:12 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Hey, im not at least the last one
I'm sad now

Why you are sad
Im happy


it lives! xP

dwarf, you got anything for me? i want to know what you thiiiink

who is scum?

who is town?

what do you think of my case and what do you think of stutters?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
April 13 2015 16:03 GMT
#1197
On April 14 2015 00:45 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 00:36 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On April 14 2015 00:29 Trfel wrote:
Hm, I might have a cool way to read Half the Sky. But if she really is scum here, maybe I should just not reveal it until next game

I'd better check my meta first, though.

On an unrelated note:
On April 10 2015 06:12 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Hey, im not at least the last one
I'm sad now

Why you are sad
Im happy


it lives! xP

dwarf, you got anything for me? i want to know what you thiiiink

who is scum?

who is town?

what do you think of my case and what do you think of stutters?

My top town pick would be Tubesock. He is going way over the top hunting me so he is not likely to be mafia. Am I some kind of threat to mafia? I haven't done almost anything.

Except...
Tinfoil hat mode online
He is doing this on purpose. He makes himself look like town with this but in reality he is part of the mafia. That's thing to remember. Also, I think HtS said she has played before with Tubesock and saw his tinfoil hat theories. If Tubesock was town that time and now he is mafia, its great way to do again that to act like town

My top scum/(most likely to be) is Stutters695.
My earlier post is still valid. I just find him suspicious.
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
April 13 2015 16:06 GMT
#1198
On April 14 2015 00:45 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 00:36 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On April 14 2015 00:29 Trfel wrote:
Hm, I might have a cool way to read Half the Sky. But if she really is scum here, maybe I should just not reveal it until next game

I'd better check my meta first, though.

On an unrelated note:
On April 10 2015 06:12 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Hey, im not at least the last one
I'm sad now

Why you are sad
Im happy


what do you think of my case

About Half the Sky?
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 13 2015 16:07 GMT
#1199
On April 14 2015 01:06 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 00:45 rsoultin wrote:
On April 14 2015 00:36 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On April 14 2015 00:29 Trfel wrote:
Hm, I might have a cool way to read Half the Sky. But if she really is scum here, maybe I should just not reveal it until next game

I'd better check my meta first, though.

On an unrelated note:
On April 10 2015 06:12 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Hey, im not at least the last one
I'm sad now

Why you are sad
Im happy


what do you think of my case

About Half the Sky?


yes about hts

also lol if stutters dropped dead this second from a rare and crazy day 1 cancer bug who would you want to lynch?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 13 2015 16:10 GMT
#1200
On April 14 2015 00:17 rsoultin wrote:
you're right, hts, but usually people do it combined with reads? it isn't pure oh vote looks scummy therefore scum

like i caught -celestial- because he was vocal that he didn't like the main wagon but still wasted his vote instead of trying to save him (lol sound a little familiar here? ) and i cleared breshke in a later game cause even though his vote looked scummy, the lead-up to it looked genuine

if you're town i get what you're trying to do, but it doesn't really work the way you're doing it, ya know?


Pretty sure I've been analysing the context of the vote (arguments around it) aside from the placement of vote and timing? Particularly with Tube? Unless you meant my response to Trfel. I'm free for an hour so a bit more mobile on the laptop on this forum atm \o/

Anyhow, carrying on.
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