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On April 15 2015 12:22 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2015 12:03 jarjarbinks wrote:On April 15 2015 10:33 Breshke wrote:So i want to explain my EoD actions because not many people seem to be understanding. There was three wagons. Shining, who i think is scum Prp, who i was null town leanish/hadn't looked into much since D1 TBD who I had no diea about. It was obvious to me that the shining lynch was not going to go through. The only person whow anted it in the thread as much as i did was trefel. After realising i would not get the lynch i wanted i assessed the other two wagons. Rso and shining were both voting on TBD. If shining is scum RSo is most likely his partner because the way is ee it she stopped im from getting lynched EoD. That coupled with the fact with how fast she flipped her read on me while seemingly calling me town all game leads me to think they are both scum. This lead me to the conclusion that i would rather lynch Prp than dwarf because if shining and rso are scum they would not BOTH be voting their scum partner TBD therefore it would be more likely that prp was scum than TBDOn April 15 2015 10:15 rsoultin wrote:
tbh i've cooled down a little -_- but i was pissed off that he was like fuck you anything you want i don't lol >< right after i said he'd had no time to defend himself so i wasn't going to push his lynch...no i may not have been able to get the votes, but i could have damn well tried and probably gotten close at least >< whatever
his play makes sense as town from the assumption that shining and i are scum -shrugs-
if anything i'm confused about the apparent strength of his scumread on shining that it provoked that reaction, because when he left the thread he made it sound like it was policy and nothing more I honestly don't know where the bolded part has come from but I want you to know whatever your alignment and whatever my allighnment this is not how i was trying to come across to you. I hoenstly did not think you would get enough votes on me and i was having a hard enough time actually finding someone i thought was scum after i flipped on bourne so i wasn't interested in trying to defend myself with like half an hour left when i felt it wasnt necessary and there was more important things to do. This makes sense and I can see how you were thinking that. 10x better than your reasoning EOD. Honestly I wished you put (even an abbreviated) version of this EOD instead of what you did so I knew 100% this was why you were voting, but I think I can see how you got this in your filter. It does make sense in that perspective. However, there is still a disconnect between "placeholder vote", me coming into thread and casing him, and him moving to "he's scum, lynch Shining." It looks like an OMGUS. I want to know where and why I'm being scummed. If he can't tell us that, then why is he scumming me? Tldr: unexplained scum read of a guy that scum read him with given reasons. Please explain.
What is tldr?
honestly based on his "thirds" quote on you (where he originally voted you) I would assume his read on you wasn't that strong
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looking for gems tomorrow:
D2 votes with D1 votes
prp
bresh
tube
stutters
shining
i'll be around for about 10 min then i'm crashing
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just reading up now...anyone else in thread?
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ok so vigi killed stutters... lol
no im not vigi have you read my filter? lol
i'm super behind, church things after work lol
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reading up.... ill check this occasionally
sorry guys I have like 10 pages to go
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On April 16 2015 12:29 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2015 12:11 jarjarbinks wrote:
ok so vigi killed stutters... lol
no im not vigi have you read my filter? lol
i'm super behind, church things after work lol Strange reaction. Did you bread crumb something in your filter? If you did, and you're Vet, now's the time. If not, I'm not really sure how your filter is supposed to tell us you're NOT Vig.
well he was one of my top townreads...why would I shoot one of my townreads?
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so this is a mess beyond a mess...
I think prp and tube are mafia based on NK's. This claiming stuff is a nightmare. It would be nice to see if Bourneq will validate shining as vig. I think Shining is vig here.
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On April 16 2015 13:34 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2015 13:29 jarjarbinks wrote:
so this is a mess beyond a mess...
I think prp and tube are mafia based on NK's. This claiming stuff is a nightmare. It would be nice to see if Bourneq will validate shining as vig. I think Shining is vig here. can you explain this please? you left a list post right before you went to bed last night that i didn't follow at all :/
then ask me about it? I thought it made sense lol
prp and tube push stutters lynch day 1. kill HF because by N1 they were both doing relatively well (see list).
now that stutters, hts, and dwarf are all town this leaves them
if this is true, theyre play on dwarf was phenominal and also sucky for dwarf. prob saw his play early and saw the opportunity to use him. prp to get credit for constantly defending the misread townie and tube for crazy tinfoil theories and no hate for constantly pushing the mislynch
they have changed to my top two filters now to go through I need to check to see if things would line up.
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On April 16 2015 13:59 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2015 13:50 jarjarbinks wrote:On April 16 2015 13:34 rsoultin wrote:On April 16 2015 13:29 jarjarbinks wrote:
so this is a mess beyond a mess...
I think prp and tube are mafia based on NK's. This claiming stuff is a nightmare. It would be nice to see if Bourneq will validate shining as vig. I think Shining is vig here. can you explain this please? you left a list post right before you went to bed last night that i didn't follow at all :/ then ask me about it? I thought it made sense lol prp and tube push stutters lynch day 1. kill HF because by N1 they were both doing relatively well (see list). now that stutters, hts, and dwarf are all town this leaves them if this is true, theyre play on dwarf was phenominal and also sucky for dwarf. prob saw his play early and saw the opportunity to use him. prp to get credit for constantly defending the misread townie and tube for crazy tinfoil theories and no hate for constantly pushing the mislynch they have changed to my top two filters now to go through I need to check to see if things would line up. hmmmm so you're saying you think the HF shot happened because scum was sitting easy and didn't have to worry about anything after day 1? lol >< i can see that thought process for sure if prp's not scum you probably are xP who is your third scum, jjb...do you have one?
Less confident in this one: Bourneq. Tube doesn't really discuss D2. Prp votes him D1 but doesn't push-switches. D2 votes him but doesn't push-stays on because it didn't matter (or was actually gone). Would fit the theory too in my opinion.
You would be an interesting 3rd choice, but it's hard to believe that your both scum considering your actions with each other. You would fit my theory fantastically well though.
What do you think of Tube
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On April 16 2015 14:00 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2015 12:38 jarjarbinks wrote:
looking for gems tomorrow:
D2 votes with D1 votes
prp
bresh
tube
stutters
shining
i'll be around for about 10 min then i'm crashing this was the list? no clue what you're even talking about here
no let me find it
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On April 13 2015 13:51 jarjarbinks wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2015 13:39 rsoultin wrote:On April 13 2015 07:54 jarjarbinks wrote:
Wow....hope to actually play with you next time HF.
Reasons why HF was killed that I can think of
1. HF can read another vet well or is good at this game? I have no experience with the guy
2. Scum doesn't want to reveal anything
3. Scum is not worried about anyone so far
#2 is probably most likely...if anyone think #3 is very possible we might need to check our highly townread people in the game (bresh? tube?) or doublecheck at the highly scumread right now (dwarf? stutters?) this post was interesting to me have you looked into who you think is scum given the second option yet? I started it, im super behind on my reads sheet so I tried to go with whoever it appeared were each persons top 3 scum. It has a lot of issues with is but in general there were some people who weren't being scummed much and some people who were being towned a ton. People who weren't on top town or top scum the most: Onegu HTS JJB Tube People who were top 3 town most: Prp Tube Bresh JJB Granted, this analysis has flaws. And note I AM ON BOTH, so if anything it I'm showing that I am not altering the analysis AT ALL. I think if I had my reads stuff updated this would be better, and there was a few people that it was hard to tell who their top scum/town were while others it was easier to ascertain.
this one tube dissed it
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On April 16 2015 14:35 rsoultin wrote:
lol speak of the devil ><
lol got her
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On April 16 2015 14:37 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2015 14:35 jarjarbinks wrote:On April 16 2015 14:00 rsoultin wrote:On April 15 2015 12:38 jarjarbinks wrote:
looking for gems tomorrow:
D2 votes with D1 votes
prp
bresh
tube
stutters
shining
i'll be around for about 10 min then i'm crashing this was the list? no clue what you're even talking about here no let me find it yes it was! i know what your other list was and you already explained that i'm trying to figure out what you were doing in this post? o.0
that was a list of my things to do... which I didn't do... except for the first two (prp was a skim though...skimmed tube just now, still thinking they are a team)
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On April 16 2015 14:38 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2015 14:36 jarjarbinks wrote:On April 13 2015 13:51 jarjarbinks wrote:On April 13 2015 13:39 rsoultin wrote:On April 13 2015 07:54 jarjarbinks wrote:
Wow....hope to actually play with you next time HF.
Reasons why HF was killed that I can think of
1. HF can read another vet well or is good at this game? I have no experience with the guy
2. Scum doesn't want to reveal anything
3. Scum is not worried about anyone so far
#2 is probably most likely...if anyone think #3 is very possible we might need to check our highly townread people in the game (bresh? tube?) or doublecheck at the highly scumread right now (dwarf? stutters?) this post was interesting to me have you looked into who you think is scum given the second option yet? I started it, im super behind on my reads sheet so I tried to go with whoever it appeared were each persons top 3 scum. It has a lot of issues with is but in general there were some people who weren't being scummed much and some people who were being towned a ton. People who weren't on top town or top scum the most: Onegu HTS JJB Tube People who were top 3 town most: Prp Tube Bresh JJB Granted, this analysis has flaws. And note I AM ON BOTH, so if anything it I'm showing that I am not altering the analysis AT ALL. I think if I had my reads stuff updated this would be better, and there was a few people that it was hard to tell who their top scum/town were while others it was easier to ascertain. this one tube dissed it Hm, thanks for quoting that post. It actually looks quite suspicious 
lolz SO SUSPICIOUS xD
it's honestly the first time I ever had to click on my own filter, just seems wrong in a way
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On April 16 2015 14:42 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2015 14:33 jarjarbinks wrote:On April 16 2015 13:59 rsoultin wrote:On April 16 2015 13:50 jarjarbinks wrote:On April 16 2015 13:34 rsoultin wrote:On April 16 2015 13:29 jarjarbinks wrote:
so this is a mess beyond a mess...
I think prp and tube are mafia based on NK's. This claiming stuff is a nightmare. It would be nice to see if Bourneq will validate shining as vig. I think Shining is vig here. can you explain this please? you left a list post right before you went to bed last night that i didn't follow at all :/ then ask me about it? I thought it made sense lol prp and tube push stutters lynch day 1. kill HF because by N1 they were both doing relatively well (see list). now that stutters, hts, and dwarf are all town this leaves them if this is true, theyre play on dwarf was phenominal and also sucky for dwarf. prob saw his play early and saw the opportunity to use him. prp to get credit for constantly defending the misread townie and tube for crazy tinfoil theories and no hate for constantly pushing the mislynch they have changed to my top two filters now to go through I need to check to see if things would line up. hmmmm so you're saying you think the HF shot happened because scum was sitting easy and didn't have to worry about anything after day 1? lol >< i can see that thought process for sure if prp's not scum you probably are xP who is your third scum, jjb...do you have one? Less confident in this one: Bourneq. Tube doesn't really discuss D2. Prp votes him D1 but doesn't push-switches. D2 votes him but doesn't push-stays on because it didn't matter (or was actually gone). Would fit the theory too in my opinion. You would be an interesting 3rd choice, but it's hard to believe that your both scum considering your actions with each other. You would fit my theory fantastically well though. What do you think of Tube he's hot and he's cold lol >< i think i mentioned earlier that if anything makes him scum this game, it's he's not as active as he should be? like, joat for instance i remember thinking all he'd done was collect votes, but when i opened his filter it was actually a lot of good things overshadowed by the vote collection...i even completely rescinded my scumread on him lol ... here it's mostly the dwarf gf stuff from his tinfoil theory, if i recall correctly :/ tonally that theory seemed very townie because of the enthusiasm, but that's it? -_- yeah he could definitely be scum, but i need to filter him closer i am the SCUM QUEEN! lol >< according to ls how do i fit your theory? i feel like i'm usually more townread generally than i have been this game -_- which is my fault because of day 1 but lol >< kinda told y'all day 1 was gonna be bad pre-game -shrugs-
Biggest point was that if prp and tube were on a scumteam, they needed someone that was either under the radar or could "lone wolf" scum. You would make a good "lone wolf" scum and you were scumread by a few at the time (onegu for sure, hts ish if I remember right) but it wasn't much and you could probably get away from it (which you did...lol).
Plus this isn't MVP rso game for sure. HTS getting NK'd N2 as town just made it more obvious. Plus you haven't said "red flags" much this game.
I think tube's list of townies brought it up a little further too.... let me find it
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On April 16 2015 10:04 Tubesock wrote:
##Vote: Breshke
I think I have this game solved. I need time to double check.
Prp, Rso, Shining all town. I absolutely believe Shining.
Who thinks Rsoultin was a NK risk? I didn't and I have a huge mafia skill crush on her. I didn't think HTS would be either I thought Stutters, Trfel, or Breshke. I didn't do a legacy either as I'd think scum would be dumb to shoot me over those three. HTS died cause she was on to something or the biggest risk.
good MYLO strat for tube if Rso and Prp are his partners
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On April 16 2015 14:58 The Shining wrote:
JJB, So basically that's just a list post of promises you're expected to fill and you're here saying you barely started?
I don't think I can objectively read JJB right now. Maybe after I smoke and unwind from work. I'm starting to see similarities in that last scum game to this one.
RSo, do you think last time he scummed(the team was him and Silver, 9 player game) you were NKd N1 because you could effectively meta both of them? With a vet on the scum team this time around(See: Prpl), and seeing your slow play D1, I think it's still possible the vets would kill HF and HTS for being universally townread before you, even if JJB was pulling for your NK. JJB himself said this isn't MVP RSo.
I'm not effectively scumming JJB yet but I had to field this question. Although it still doesn't make too much sense to me for JJB to AFK EoD while voting a scummate.
And Prpl is willing to lynch into JJB, apparently.
Also yay, Prpl made an appearance. So if Bourne CCs anyone other than Breshke, he is lying. Even if he does CC Bresh, I'd still be inclined to think he's lying.
yes that's what I said
look at the list again and see what's left
Shining, do you have access to our scum QT? I talked to her about it. All those decisions weren't about her.
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On April 16 2015 14:55 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2015 14:49 jarjarbinks wrote:On April 16 2015 14:42 rsoultin wrote:On April 16 2015 14:33 jarjarbinks wrote:On April 16 2015 13:59 rsoultin wrote:On April 16 2015 13:50 jarjarbinks wrote:On April 16 2015 13:34 rsoultin wrote:On April 16 2015 13:29 jarjarbinks wrote:
so this is a mess beyond a mess...
I think prp and tube are mafia based on NK's. This claiming stuff is a nightmare. It would be nice to see if Bourneq will validate shining as vig. I think Shining is vig here. can you explain this please? you left a list post right before you went to bed last night that i didn't follow at all :/ then ask me about it? I thought it made sense lol prp and tube push stutters lynch day 1. kill HF because by N1 they were both doing relatively well (see list). now that stutters, hts, and dwarf are all town this leaves them if this is true, theyre play on dwarf was phenominal and also sucky for dwarf. prob saw his play early and saw the opportunity to use him. prp to get credit for constantly defending the misread townie and tube for crazy tinfoil theories and no hate for constantly pushing the mislynch they have changed to my top two filters now to go through I need to check to see if things would line up. hmmmm so you're saying you think the HF shot happened because scum was sitting easy and didn't have to worry about anything after day 1? lol >< i can see that thought process for sure if prp's not scum you probably are xP who is your third scum, jjb...do you have one? Less confident in this one: Bourneq. Tube doesn't really discuss D2. Prp votes him D1 but doesn't push-switches. D2 votes him but doesn't push-stays on because it didn't matter (or was actually gone). Would fit the theory too in my opinion. You would be an interesting 3rd choice, but it's hard to believe that your both scum considering your actions with each other. You would fit my theory fantastically well though. What do you think of Tube he's hot and he's cold lol >< i think i mentioned earlier that if anything makes him scum this game, it's he's not as active as he should be? like, joat for instance i remember thinking all he'd done was collect votes, but when i opened his filter it was actually a lot of good things overshadowed by the vote collection...i even completely rescinded my scumread on him lol ... here it's mostly the dwarf gf stuff from his tinfoil theory, if i recall correctly :/ tonally that theory seemed very townie because of the enthusiasm, but that's it? -_- yeah he could definitely be scum, but i need to filter him closer i am the SCUM QUEEN! lol >< according to ls how do i fit your theory? i feel like i'm usually more townread generally than i have been this game -_- which is my fault because of day 1 but lol >< kinda told y'all day 1 was gonna be bad pre-game -shrugs- Biggest point was that if prp and tube were on a scumteam, they needed someone that was either under the radar or could "lone wolf" scum. You would make a good "lone wolf" scum and you were scumread by a few at the time (onegu for sure, hts ish if I remember right) but it wasn't much and you could probably get away from it (which you did...lol). Plus this isn't MVP rso game for sure. HTS getting NK'd N2 as town just made it more obvious. Plus you haven't said "red flags" much this game. I think tube's list of townies brought it up a little further too.... let me find it what's a lone wolf scum?? heh >< yeah well none of the games i've played with you have been MVP rso...don't let the nomination for the one game i was mislynched in fool you lol >< that was pity regardless i'd rather talk about your scumreads that actually have a chance of being scum xP what was it in tube's filter that supports your theory on him and prp being a team?
I don't think your D1 in my scum game was that bad honestly, although you did think I was town lolololz I mean you were distracted sure but you led discussion better than this one. the mislynched game I thought u did too although that might just be cause you defended me the whole time lol
lone wolf scum- a scum that can play by themselves and be OK. I figured you do this well as you mentioned to me in the past that you often bus your teammates and don't use too much teamwork
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I'm out soon its 215 am xD
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On April 16 2015 15:15 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2015 15:05 jarjarbinks wrote:On April 16 2015 14:58 The Shining wrote:
JJB, So basically that's just a list post of promises you're expected to fill and you're here saying you barely started?
I don't think I can objectively read JJB right now. Maybe after I smoke and unwind from work. I'm starting to see similarities in that last scum game to this one.
RSo, do you think last time he scummed(the team was him and Silver, 9 player game) you were NKd N1 because you could effectively meta both of them? With a vet on the scum team this time around(See: Prpl), and seeing your slow play D1, I think it's still possible the vets would kill HF and HTS for being universally townread before you, even if JJB was pulling for your NK. JJB himself said this isn't MVP RSo.
I'm not effectively scumming JJB yet but I had to field this question. Although it still doesn't make too much sense to me for JJB to AFK EoD while voting a scummate.
And Prpl is willing to lynch into JJB, apparently.
Also yay, Prpl made an appearance. So if Bourne CCs anyone other than Breshke, he is lying. Even if he does CC Bresh, I'd still be inclined to think he's lying. yes that's what I said look at the list again and see what's left Shining, do you have access to our scum QT? I talked to her about it. All those decisions weren't about her. I don't. I don't think I ever asked to see it. I kind of disappeared from TL for a bit after seeing the ending to that game. XD Nah, I'm not a fan of lists when it comes to you. You're an enigma to me and your lists, percentages, most of what you do seem to only get me lost. XD Half of why I keep signing up for games you're in is it's a constant learning process for me.
Same but for other reasons (surgery womp womp)
The convo pretty much went like:
JJB "i want to kill my sister cuz she's distracted and will find me out"
Silver "sure if that's what you think is the best option"
JJB "you should probably post soon...lol"
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